I just want to fucking scream. Please mock me because I know you will. I don't fucking care.
I have been skinny fat most of my life. I decided to change that 18 months ago. I cut out all soda, alcohol, drug and cigarette use, as well as only allowing sugary foods in extreme situations such as birthdays or weddings.
Then I started lifting 5 times per week. I take in over 150 grams of protein per day. And yet I still look fucking sorry. To me there is no explanation I can give other than fucking estrogen or feminizing chemicals in the food and water supply.
I feel as if this may also be somewhat to blame for the dramatic increase in degenerate LGBT bullshit that's been going on lately.
Go ahead, mock me, I honestly don't fucking care. I have been trying so hard for 18 months, doing everything by the book, and still my progress is so slow, and I retain many feminine features, such as fucking breasts.
What can even be done? I cannot fucking herd livestock and farm to meet all my nutritional needs, although realistically is this the only way?
>>80812646
Here's 18 months of "progress" no soda, no sweets, lifting 5 times per week. Notice the fucking feminine features.
I understand this isn't /fit/ or /x/ but I don't know what board best fits for talking about shit like this
Start hunting. Also, wouldn't be surprised if the water was spiked.
>>80812646
>>80813019
Personal care products: Your shower gels, deoderants, shave cream, shampoos, lotions etc...
Learn what each and every chemical on those labels is. Think about whether you want to slather your body in them.
You skin is your body's largest organ, and it absorbs a lot of shit from the outside into the bloodstream
Think about cleaning up your diet further than you think is necessary
Think about evidence based nutritional supplementation. Go start reading: examine.com
>>80812646
OP, I've been suspicious of being feminized lately too.
>Lost weight
>Still have thick thighs and sorta boobs, not like man ones
>Feeling more emotional lately, want to cry over everything
>Sudden desire to have kids
>Want to dress up and be a cute girl at times despite the fact I've always been comfortable with and liked being male
>Suddenly like porn where a girl gets fucked by a great guy, and envious of her
>More accepting of pubic hair
I have no idea where this came from. I suspect I'm consuming a lot of estorgen somehow.
>>80812646
give us a before and after pic
>>80813019
Honestly, you look fine man just keep working out and wear flannel or button up. You no-lie sound like you have body dysmorphia, just focus your chest and you'll be A-Okay.
>>80812646
Where do you live? If not Texas, cometo TX. Water's fine here. You do look like a faggot and should consider killing yourself if you dont want to move to tx.
>>80812646
this is /pol not /fit
...
gtfo of here fagit
>>80813019
You're still bulky. You need to lose weight - because fat isnt feminizing so much as it is muscle hiding. Stop lifting and do cardio.
Also just eat less
>>80813019
You've got decent muscle mass there you silly fuck
C U T
U
T
>5 times per week
Let me guess, you didnt go to /fit/ and did some shitty routine.
>>80812646
hi ho, hi ho, it's back to /fit/ you go
>>80813019
Hate to tell ya bro but youre at about 27% body fat and need to get to about 15% to lose them man tittays.
Youre ready for a cut down phase after bulking. Head on over to /fit/ and they will take it from there.
>>80813019
>Here's 18 months of "progress" no soda, no sweets
Carbs? Flour? Potatoes?
https://lowerthought.wordpress.com/complete-notes-to-good-calories-bad-calories/
>>80813428
No before pic, but you see the after pic. Just imagine the most gollum/smeogal body type you can, and that was me.
Just this summer for the first time in my life I can swim in a pool or work in the summer heat without having a shirt on, I've always been terrified of doing that, because I looked so jacked up.
I will be the first to admit I have made tons of progress, noticeable progress. Shit everyone comments and mentions it. The progress is especially noticeable with my SHIRT ON.
But with the shirt off, as you can see in the image there are many feminine features. I know this is just a random data point for you to observe. You know nothing about my life, my eating habits, or my workout habits.
It just feels WRONG somehow. I am seeing some results so I continue to train, but I just feel too feminized in many of my features.
>>80812646
Cut bro.
Start eating more leaner and do more RUNNING, SWIMMING, BIKING, ETC...
You need to get rid of the fat. I see the muscle definition but you need to cut badly.
>>80812646
>>80813019
Need before and after. What program are you doing, are you progressing? What are you eating specifically? How much weight have you lost?
Pic unrelated
>kinda related
>>80813019
You need to cut
I can tell the muscle mass is there
If you lose some fat you'll look good
>>80812646
nigga I just eat food from local farmers I personally know.
Pay now or pay later, everyone says it's not reasonable for an entire country to do it, but the markets speak, if there is a demand there will be sales.
>>80813019
The reason you look like you have mantits is because you are still fat. No camera angle can hide those arms & belly..
>>80812646
first off you're a fucking pussy.
Second off where is the source of protein? If its mainly protein shakes, well there ya go. Eat meats, nuts, eggs instead of that.
3rd. You need to cut. Keep track of how many calories you eat, while making sure to eat below your daily calorie intake that is calculated by those calulators online if you dont want to go to doctor to get exact specifications.
>>80813130
The estrogen in the water supply comes from the tens of millions of women who are on birth control and everytime they piss they're pissing synthetic estrogen into the water
>>80812646
150 g might be overdoing it unless ur aroudn 220 lbs. You're only supposed to intake .7 g of protein per lb. Don't use a mirror as a metric. Weigh yourself to see how much progress you've made.
Why don't you box? Picking things up and down again is great. But fighting is manly, and will burn more fat and build lean, shredded muscle. Alos, punching people/dodging punches= testosterone.
>>80813019
ive been liftin for 4 years mate
ill tell you simply to just lose weight, your titties will be gone
>>80812646
Gains are something like 70% what you eat, just cutting out a few bad foods from your diet won't cut it. You need to regulate your intake ~40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat and a reduction in calories by ~500cal, if weight loss is your gain. Also do some bloody cardio
Seriously how have you been at this for 18months and not read the /fit/ sticky?
>>80812646
also drink only bottled distilled water? Have you not watched kubrik?
>>80813880
CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT
I have lost over 20 pounds in a year just by walking more and eating less (and less shitty foods). Drink water, and know when and what to take.
Currently at 201, want to be at 185 by December. Then, and ONLY then will I bulk up. Add 15 pounds of muscle and then CUT again. Fuck being fat. Fuck looking in the mirror and thinking you are fat. Fuck that. And I'm not going back to that
>>80813681
The only feminine feature you have are the man boobs which will go away if you cut
You've got broad shoulders, narrow hips, and a normal amount of body hair
You're not becoming feminized you're just fat
>>80813284
examine.com is the fucking best place to get ANY of that information.
>>80812646
OP. Are you carb cycling? Are you eating at appropriate times when you lift? (ie so that the right shit is in your bloodstream when you lift)
Are you lifting heavy?
Are you doing compound lifts?
If your squat is under 300 lbs ill be fucking mad at you. Tell me and lets get you working smart iv'e got time.
>>80812646
Whats your numbers bitch boy?
>>80813019
How could you put in 18 months of effort and not realise through discussion and research until now that all your problems are simply now down to just needing to bloody burn some fat.
Come back with a real, complicated /fit/ problem that you can't seem explain and nobody has a real answer for.
>>80812646
Stay away from any food or water that has been tainted by plastic, as that's the primary source of the hormones. I know it's almost impossible because both things have been in contact with plastics at some point, but minimize further exposure.
For water, filter that shit and drink from a glass or any non-plastic vessel. Don't put any hot beverage on plastic containers. Avoid soda, even the canned ones. The cans are lined with chemicals, to prevent corrosion, that has the same chemicals that can cause hormonal imbalance.
For food, don't store it in plastics. Don't use a plastic vessel when the food is hot or heating up your food in plastic. The heat makes the hormones seep into your food.
If you must, go take testosterone-boosting supplements. Go talk to a doctor to plan a safe regimen that won't make you roid rage or leave your testicles withered that you'd have to be on it for life.
For other supplementation, take weight-gainers and NO/Nitric Oxide (no, not the gas). Creatine pumps you up with water, so it might be good to keep the muscles from tiring too quickly, but don't think gains from it are permanent - it disappears quickly (1 hour, at most). Take multivitamins, especially B-vitamin rich ones.
As far as your workout regimen, you're probably doing something wrong. Go to /fit/ and pick their brains. You also need to do more than just a few minutes to actually see some results. I work out for 2 hours If you want to see gains, avoid cardio; until it's time to "cut down". The 5 days you have, the rule of thumb is you divide it into focusing on certain body parts. You probably heard of "leg day".
But it's also possible that it's genetics-related. Some just can't gain enough muscle because of metabolism and other factors.
But yes, the spike in nu-males (feminized men) can be attributed to hormones, but that's not the only source. There's media and education too. But since you're here, you know how to deal with the media and education propaganda.
That's not skinny fat bro.
>>80813912
Protein shakes are fine as long as you avoid the ones specifically branded as "mass gainers" because those tend to also be filled with a shit load of carbs and fats
Just stick to whey isolate
>>80813019
Gynocomastia. Yeah, go talk to a doctor about that.
Similar shoes OP, feminine features including tits, in fact it's scary how similar our bodies look from your picture. But I'm a little skinnier then you (even though my moobs are bigger). I run 4 miles a day, drink nothing but water and black coffee, and eat very little. I'm toned up my features and lost 35 pounds since November (I was 5'9 2010), what I'm driving at is, Cardio. Cardio. Run my man.
/fit/itzen here. Good work cutting out sugars, but to actually lose weight consistently you're going to have to count calories like the rest of us. Also your feminine features are due to shitty genetics - nothing you can do about that bro. Not everyone has it as easy as Jeff or Zyzz, but keep lifting and cutting and you'll eventually make it to a point where you're personally satisfied.
Then again you should already know this if you read /fit/ (board of self improvement) vs /pol/ (board of blaming all my problems on others)
i bought this great all natural olive oil soap and threw out my old shampoo and soap. it works great and has no bs in it
JUST CUT YOUR SHIT UP
>>80814203
Thanks for offering to help. I try to eat at least 4-5 times per day to help keep my metabolism going. 150g protein total like I said.
I always take in carbs 45 mins before lifting so I have energy to train.
My starting lifts 18 months ago were bench: the bar only squat: 95 deadlift: 135 OHP: the bar only
My lifts now are bench: 190 squat: 235 deadlift: 315 OHP:100
Pls no bully my nigger I am trying.
Also to any mod that sees this thread and potentially wants to ban me for being off topic, I think the thread turned in a direction I didn't intend it to, and I suppose it could be moved to /fit/. Sorry.
I hate blacks and voted for trump pls no bully or ban
>>80814400
*210 fuck
>>80814412
Are you trying to tell me the Jews aren't responsible for my giant gut?
>>80814400
You can't outrun a bad diet and eating to few calories will actually be detrimental to a cut as the body will consume muscle to make up for the loss
Cutting at anything greater than 500 kcal/day is a good way to lose gains
>>80814533
kekd
>>80814521
18 months and YOURE THAT FUCKING WEAK? JESUS, did you even try SS or did you only do the GOMAD part? Look you need to realize that morphing your body is going to take time and you need to be in for the long haul. I recommend you get a 1/2/3/4 THEN cut down your weight, if you care about strength anyway. If you dont give a fuck how strong/weak you are then just start cutting calories and eating real food myfitnesspal will save your life.
>>80814565
True, I should have changed my words when I said very little, I mean I have followed a diet plan that allows me to lose weight at a more substantial rate without sacrificing health/gains.
>>80814521
Cut holes in a binbag, wear it under your jumper, and go for a run.
DRINK LOTS OF WATER
>tfw man boobs
>squeeze them
>tfw it's not just fat because i feel lumps and they're sensitive
what the fuck?
>>80814521
Alright, it sounds like you are 1, overtraining. and two not training enough. Let me explain.
If you are able to workout 4 to 5 times a week, you are not working hard enough to actually gain any size.
What does a set look like for you?
>>80812646
if you've been using anything with soy in it, it acts like estrogen in your system.
>>80814681
G Y N O
Y
N
O
Time to visit your doctor famalam
Dude I was fat when I was young. In like 7th grade at 13, 5'2" and 150 lbs. I lost 30 pounds in one Summer from just eating healthier. My truffle-boobs were gone and I was skinny. I would say before trying to put on muscle just lose weight and then start from there.
>>80814681
Don't worry anon, that's just your boobs developing, they're pleasure sacks, that's why women enjoy being groped so much
>>80814681
Go see a doctor
>>80814681
do you lactate?
>>80814521
Obviously there have been gains, but when I played football at the age of 18, it took me 12 months to go from being weak as shit to: Bench 235, Squat 455, Dead Lift 500, etc.
Get your shit together man...
>>80812646
Do you live in a city or a small town?
City water is all recycled and treated. They don't remove the estrogen from birth control.
Meanwhile small towns use wells and aquifers for fresh natural water.
I think that's part of the reason why cities are full of emasculated nu males and small towns are full of based men.
>>80812646
Progress is progress. Don't lift simply to gain, lift to build your self.
>>80813598
>>80813598
>>80813598
EVERYONE
NEEDS
TO
READ
AND
UNDERSTAND
THIS
You'll thank me after you turn 35 years old.
>>80814412
You dirty Jew, you know you tainted the water supply with plastics laden with feminizing hormones!
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/02/134196209/study-most-plastics-leach-hormone-like-chemicals
J'accuse!
>>80813019
The ink in your tattoo is slowly poisoning you.
>Used to be chubby
>Started lifting when I was 16
>21 now
>Jacked as fuck
No idea what the fuck you cunts are talking about.
>>80814412
>Not everyone has it as easy as Jeff or Zyzz
They actually can have it that easy. Dude doesn't even have feminine features, he's just fat.
>>80812646
OP you are such a retarded faggot. Ever heard of macros? You still need to get a lot of fat, carbs, and a big calorie surplus (like 3 or 4k) if you want to grow. Stop being a faggit. Sage
>>80814691
Okay here is an example day from my routine.
Bench/pull-up super sets
Benching maybe 155x8 then doing pull-ups to failure (usually 8-10)
I'll do 4 sets of this
Lat pulls @ 100 lbs x 12 for 4 sets
Chest flies in the cable cross @ 70 bs x 12 for 4 sets
Dumbbell skullcrushers 12x4
Decline bench 8x4
Then some random bicep horseshit to give me a pump so I feel good about my life
Then some random abs shit
Then I'm done. Usually takes 1 hour.
Again this is just one random day I usually do, kind of a (chest/upper body) day
>>80813019
Just cut faggot, you'll look great.
>>80814678
Nigger that's only useful if he's trying to do a water cut for some kind of competition be it wrestling, powerlifting, anything with weight classes really
Water cuts are useless for any kind of long term weight loss
>>80814521
PLEASE PLEAS PLEASE don't tell me you train power lifting exclusively?
OF COURSE YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT
do a fucking body building program you fool.
HURR DURR MUH COMPOUND LIFTS MAKE ME A GOOD BODY
no they dont
get that fucking hypertrophy that your muscles are dying for that you neglect them.
you don't need that much protein. you don't need to even do squats but i recommend you do.
just do more volume work. please. go 5 days a week, do a PPL / UL. hell you could even do your power lifts on this schedule.
you CLEARLY want to look good. training powerlifting isnt gonna cut it. please don't continue the SS/5x5/texas method/madcow BULLSHIT that plagues the internet and /fit/ and other boards. ive been lifting for years, i've been down that stupid fucking path. JUST LIFT TO LOOK GOOD DUDE.
>>80812646
I've started working out a month ago and have gained 5 pounds already. My test 600mg/wk test e cycle should start coming on strong too. Started out 155ish and at 161-162 so far. All the fat from my bulk goes to my ass though.
Yep, more cutting necessary. It's not the illuminati keeping your man boobs it's the body fat.
Stripping that body fat will make you leaner and then your muscle definition will show through mhch more.
Also don't be fooled into buying fitness magazines etc. The models on those who claim to just eat clean and train are also jacked up on all kinds of roids, HGH, fat burning drugs, you name it.
Oh look it is another 'estrogen made me a bitch thread'
OP, protip, that isn't how it works
You can intake quadruple the amount of normal estrogen and the only thing that will happen is you piss it out your pathetic dickhole
>>80814924
>took advantage of puberty gains
If only we were all so enlightened as to start lifting during puberty it's literally like being on gear
>>80815001
Oh wait I just saw you're retarded picture. Just eat less, drink bottled water, and cut faggot. Sage again
>>80812646
You need cardio and don't lift 5 times a week you idiot.
>>80813019
nice tits..lol
mine are bigger and hairier...
OP you have loose and thin skin due to weight loss and low test. Just give it more time. Estrogen tits look different
OP has a shit program and no diet. Stop posting about MUH JOOS and start reading more /fit/.
Also the amount of shit-tier bro-advice on this thread is disgusting. I finally see why /fit/ thinks /pol/ is just a bunch of crying fat virgins.
>>80813019
fat fuck reporting...do cardio and pushups man its the fastest way to lose those tits i lost a ton of bellyfat and some tits to
>>80813598
Are plastic bottles that say "don't take bpa" good?
>>80813675
Cat urine is responsible for the epidemic of homosexuals in urban areas. They should not be kept indoors. They are an ancient Egyptian bio-weapon against inferior Human lines.
@OP
you may have this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
>>80813019
Little chub but you don't look bad. Average, but hardly effeminate. Just gotta cut and relax.
>>80813019
Work your shoulders. They're disproportionally soft and small compared to your chest and makes your body profile look feminized.
>>80815051
>classic /fit/ "bb v pl" troll
Honestly PL is superior because you'll get there much faster than if you do a brosplit, assuming natty ofc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5N1hChJwX7c
Its not as bad as burning the double helix.
>>80814681
I got rid of mine for $5,000.
>>80813019
cut
you'll lose muscle mass but you gotta get rid of the chub first
then you bulk
>>80812646
I dont understand why you pmsing...
You stoped drinking and eating shit and stoped smoking, most people cant even pass on a chocolate bar, or quit smoking.
You shoould be proud of your self just for picking up a more healthy life style, i know i would.
Have some shekels and keep doing what you do.
>>80812646
lmao get rekt son
>>80813598
>do not eat fucking anything
>do not drink fucking beer or anything
>don't do a fucking thing
>ps I dont have source for any of this lmao
absolute shit
>>80815285
Lol /fit/ is the gayest fucking board on this site.
>tfw no gf
It's r9k on roids.
I agree with OP has a shit program and no diet, though.
>>80815361
no he hasnt
>>80815285
/fit/ meet up.
>jacked alpha crying virgins
>>80815351
>eat cat shit
>become attractive
>become a risk taker
>become more social
Found the secret to becoming a normie and it's in the litter box. Wish me luck anons.
>>80812646
Keep at it. It took me like a year of shit gains to finally look amazing. It was literally like I woke up one day and my arms were suddenly jacked after being bony for so long.
>>80812646
Control their food supply and you control the people.
Basically if Trump wins this must stop. Though it does passify people to a certain extent which may be good.
>>80815627
Why not?
Havent been bothered to read the rest of the thread
>>80812646
Get a blood test. You can conclusively see if your hormones are out of balance.
>>80815404
They just look small cause he's fat
Although his lifts are embarrassingly low for his training age and weight
>>80812646
Give yourself a TRT dose. If the environment is fucking you fight back. That's what I'd do in your situation.
>t a 6'7 manmore who benches 350 and squats 495
>>80812646
The enraging part is not only are they putting estrogen in the food and water, females piss the estrogen from contraceptives back into the water supply.
Also only women are allowed to take steroids. If you are a male with low T it's illegal.
Kill everyone.
You have bitch tits because it just happens. Do chin ups or something god damn.
>>80812646
>>80813019
You're autistic and insecure about your body.
Get over it.
>>80815107
ONE
>>80813019
fit bro here.
You have gyno, it is only fixable with surgery, and even then it really doesn't look that good. Sorry bro.
PS: You are right about food being saturated with hormones that fuck you up. Look up some documentaries about how animals are treated, it's insane (don't follow the advice on going vegan though).
>>80815808
I'm trying you fucking asshole. You know damn well a 190 bench is about twice what most fucking cucks my age can put up.
It's shit but it's not dogshit. I'm working on it.m
>>80815612
jew that wants to feminize white men detected
>>80815020
So, if you want to gain size and strength, ditch the cable shit now. You need to become a barbell man.
Now, if you want to get stronger and i know this is going to be off the cuff. Run your bench set and start it 20% below maximum. Hit it until you fail and your buddy has to pick the bar up.
Then wait a couple of seconds and add 5% to the weight.
Do it again.
Then wait.
Then add 5% and do it again.
When you hit your max hit it until you can't push up anymore. In all likely hood you wont be able to push the bar. THATS OK. Your body only gets stronger when you hit that point. You crush that fucking point like a fucking man. YOU BEAT THAT FUCKING POINT.
Then you move over to squats. And you do the same fucking thing. Make sure you have a fucking ACE spotter.
Split up your days. So one day you do say chest/triceps. The next day you do legs and abs. The day after that you do Back and play muscles.
Theres your three a week. Hit it to faliure and push through it. You will get stronger. You will get bigger.
Your test will actually go up. You will lose your tits and extra fat. Remember eat enough fucking food. Try and get some sort of healthy pro- test fat in before bed.
If you want to lose weight faster add cardio in the morning. BEFORE you eat anything.
This is the worst fucking cardio on earth let me tell you that right out of the gate. However, it burns fat.
And for fucks sake eat enough veggies. You can survive on meat and veggies if you want.
Suppliment wise keep it simple. BCAA's Protein and maybe a light pump. Creitine will make you stronger but it is only temporary.
>>80814681
You got gyno bruh srry :(
>>80815051
>please don't continue the SS/5x5/texas method/madcow BULLSHIT that plagues the internet and /fit/ and other boards
/fit/ here. Lmao. You just described half the people at my gym. It's odd. Every person that looks like they're in DYEL mode powerlifts. I don't know why either. Are they really that ashamed to do hypertrophy training? It's funny, these people sometimes lift 160kg on DL, or 3pl8 for squats, and no one gives a fuck, then there's me, while I can't lift as much, I'm much more muscular than them, and people glance at me. I have done powerlifting before, but I prefer my hypertrophy training with a few strength/power exercises. And why is it always fucking awkward Indians that powerlift and never do hypertrophy? Holy shit
Don't even get me started on the Kai Greene status faggots either (hoodie and sweat pants)
>>80815044
Work for my friend in the army
>>80815973
Not really even most untrained males can bench 1pl8 for reps, you should've done SS/SL to begin with, I don't think you did
My training age is 18 months and my squat is at 390 lbs for 5, bench at 225 lbs for 3 (embarrassingly low), and dead is at 460 lbs for 1 although I haven't trained the deadlift in a while so it's probably less now
I'm also fat at 5'11" 220 lbs
You need to get your diet in check bro so you can get stronger but my diet is complete garbage as well I don't even count how much protein I get daily or try to take in a lot
>>80815872
>tfw ugly
>prostitutes are illegal
hey I'm a hard gainer, doc can I get some roids?
"it's illegal goy"
>back to inescapable state of virginity
>>80813598
>beer causes manboobs
>LOL WE'VE ALL BEEN DUPED, THIS ESTROGEN BULLSHIT IS ALL 21st CENTURY JEWISH BULLSHIT
>Beer has been around for 7000
Fucking retard detected.
>>80816393
> le untrained can bench 1 pl8 for reps meme
Honestly consider suicide
>>80813919
Oh shieeeeeeeeeet. Just like how bald eagles are dying off from eating euthanized pets. How symbolic.
>>80815464
That plastic surgeon jewed you out of 2 grand then.
>>80816496
I'm completely untrained and have a bit of fat and I can bench 1 pl8.
KYS nu male.
>>80812646
>you see, the ruskies don't drink water. they don't even drink milk, only vodka.
>>80816462
>"I'm a woman trapped in a man's body"
>here you go goy have some estrogen and some testosterone blockers, we all deserve to be happy overall :^)
>"I feel like I've lost my sex drive and am struggling with athletic performance and feel sluggish overall, I feel like less of a man than I used to"
>hmm this is just a typical sign of aging, I'm sure you're testosterone levels are fine, try drinking a cup of kosher coffee every morning for a little pick me up
The double standard is real and is insane
>>80816221
That shit is for "body building" If thats what you want it works exceptionally well. If you want to be strong as fuck you do power lifting.
No reason not to do both in cycles if you want the strength and the look.
>>80816496
Obviously some aushwitz-mode nerd who spent his entire life sitting in front of a computer is going to be weak af but most kids grow up playing sports and running around the neighborhood and generally engage in a lot of physical activity
1pl8 bench is no milestone nor is it an indicator of being trained, once you're repping 2pl8 you'll see that
On a different note what exactly is your training looking like?
I know you said 5 days/week in the gym but what exactly are you doing in there?
Also if you want a bigger bench, bench more it's that simple
thanks everyone for being mostly not assholes, believe it or not I kind of feel better now, and thanks leaf poster I will incorporate your advice into my routine (however I have no friend so no spotter)
>>80817001
If I want to increase my bench at all costs, would you literally just sit there and grind out like 10 sets until I just can't stand it anymore?
>>80817169
Noob here I was always taught high reps=endurance med reps=mass low reps=strength
So theoretically you should bench one repetition of your max bench.
>>80813659
This
>>80817169
No you want to do more bench sessions
Look into RPE training if you like but you're still a bit of a novice so stick with working at a lower percentage of your max and more reps
I bench 4 times a week autoregulating, which is also something you can look into but with your lifts it would probably be best to do a standard Texas Method with 3x per week benching with some backaway sets on intensity day, you can add a 4th day for bodybuilding work if you want (I typically do stuff like dumbbell bench, seated dumbbell OHP, cable rows/bench assisted dumbbel rows on bodybuilding day)
drop power cleans if you're doing them and don't focus on OHP as anything more than an accessory lift
>>80812646
Fatso here
I want to look better
But i dont want to change my diet, beyond diversifying to include more nutrient rich vegetables
So now i'm trying to work into cardio. I go out and walk around the neighborhood, sometimes i jog or run when i come upon routes im familiar with (im at landmark A, so i jog until i reach landmark B). I take a bottle of water with me to make sure i stay hydrated. I honestly haven't lost alot of weight and mostly just stopped myself gaining weight, but i feel alot better now since i've started. I take my music player and listen to video-game/anime soundtracks (take that as you will), and find it fun to explore the neighborhood and stop in at parks/use the swing-sets. Also have had more opportunities to socialise, which is cool.
>>80813598
jesus christ what the fuck doesnt just load you up on estrogen? good lord is there anything that actually provides you with testosterone?
>>80817952
BEEF
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Organic only though
>>80817909
You can't outrun a bad diet
You will have to make significant changes to your diet if you want to lose weight, unless you're a superfat in which case just eat less of what you're currently eating
All the fruits and vegetables in the world aren't going to makeup for a diet of fast food
>>80817952
Broccoli and other cruciferous vegetables are great when it comes to aiding protein synthesis
Eggs are great too as dietary cholesterol is a precursor of testosterone
Meats aren't bad if you stay away from the factory farmed shit that is pumped full of steroids and antibiotics
Hunt and fish for your meat if you can otherwise try to find some shit that you know is from a small scale farmer who pasture-raises his beef and hogs and chickens
>>80818049
This
>>80817952
Everything is pumping you full of estrogen.
Plastic bottles you drink from, plastic utensils you eat from when you go out, clothing fibers, water itself is pumped with chemicals, food that you eat, air that you breathe, etc.
Chemtrails are real. Putting things in your food and water is real. Putting things in your clothing is real.
So what to do? Only thing that somewhat helps is to eat Kosher food. After all ((( ))) don't want to poison their own kind. So go to the store and look at things in the Kosher section.
>>80812646
Have you ever considered the possibility you just have shit genes?
184/95 fitanon here
I wonder why steroids are forbidden. I have been on 220/150/250 plateau for years now.
>>80818049
>You will have to make significant changes to your diet if you want to lose weight
Probably wont then
>diet of fast food
nah, i have some KFC occasionally, but thats 2-3 weeks apart. Most i indulge in fast-food is pizza and subway. Worst thing in my diet is probably daily consumption of crisps (doritos/smiths/shapes/pretzels).
How would you rate subway in terms of healthiness? I don't recall much use of plastic when handling food, and i usually go with beef/cheese/bacon and a ton of veggies.
>>80818239
word. i eat a lot of beef and broccoli and eggs already, but non-organic beef (my family owns a steakhouse so I get steak for free so no point in going and paying for organic shit).
>>80818320
>Only thing that somewhat helps is to eat Kosher food. After all ((( ))) don't want to poison their own kind. So go to the store and look at things in the Kosher section.
interesting
Wow OP is hot. I want to cuddle with him and his strong but sorta chubby body. I bet it's nice and hairy too.
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>>80818320
Or we just kill all of the jews, faggots, trannies, niggers, women, etc.
>>80813598
this obsessive shit is unnecessary.
It's all about exercise and sleep, and avoiding sugar is great, but getting into all of this shit like avoiding licorice is probably 1>% of any Testosterone issues
You're right. Don't listem to anons saying otherwise.
The chemicals are xenoestrogens and BPA. BPA is in pretty much all plastics. Xenoestrogens are in things like shampoo, liquid soap, deodorant, and even some foods.
Both of these things will mimic estrogen in your body and both of these things are causing the feminization of men
>>80815351
this is fucking retarded, its misinformation
if this was true there would be a correlation between schizophrenia and homosexuality
but there's not, and there are many other correlations that should be there, but aren't.
none of that image is sourced, its just speculation.
>>80818483
>How would you rate subway in terms of healthiness?
Depends on what you get on your sandwich
If you're just grubbing down meatball subs then F-
But if you're getting turkey breast or ham or chicken with a bunch of veggies on the whole wheat bread then it's A+
>>80818612
ayayayyayyeyeyeyyeye
>>80815351
Nice theory, unfortunately not true as proven by twins.
Pic is far more likely. TLDR: It's women's fault.
>>80819327
>if this was true there would be a correlation between schizophrenia and homosexuality
But there is. Everyone assumes that serial killers is what schizophrenia is. There are varying degrees of it.
The textbook definition of schizophrenia is a mental disorder that leads to abnormal social behavior and inability to discern reality. The reality is that people with XX chromosomes will always be a woman and XY will always be a men. The reality is that XX are meant to pair up with XY, and vice versa. Any deviation from that, especially willful, shows an inability to understand that reality. Homosexuality is, perhaps, at the lower end of the schizophrenia severity and "kinds" of schizophrenia; but it's still a mental disorder nonetheless. Homosexuals (gays and lesbians) say it's a choice, but it's actually predilection to it, meaning they were mentally ill from the beginning.
It's still not as bad as transsexuals though. "Trannies" are the severe case of that kind of schizophrenia where they think that they're women in men's bodies. And the most extreme manifestation of this is to undergo physical change to match the delusion caused by extremely flawed brain function and chemistry, AKA gender reassignment.
>>80818921
but muh odor
>>80813598
So how are women growing man-jaws and looking more masculine if all of this estrogen is flooding their system?
>>80812646
Gotta eat big to get big.
>>80821809
This is my question too. Wouldn't it just add on to the estrogen already in their bodies?
>>80815349
no, because instead of BPA they use BPS or another very similar chemical that is just as bad if not worse.
>>80812646
I used to think shit like this was crazy....but
I just got back from Australia
While I was down there I noticed a crazy change in how I felt and acted
My sex drive went through the roof
I mouthed off a lot more and had more energy
I've been back in the states a little over a week and it's all gone
I feel docile. No sex drive.
Something is in the food or water over here
>>80822812
Probably just the excitement of being in an unfamiliar place. You can also get it from going on vacation a state over, I've noticed
>>80823300
Nope. Was in LA for a bit prior to leaving.
There's something about American food or water
My working theory is that it's all the salt and transfat bullshit in our food
I eat way healthier here than I did down there tho - I also drink a lot less when I'm stateside - drank like a fish in Oz land
Something stateside is for real killing my sex drive and makes me not want to do shit
>>80813019
Stop eating so much you fucking whale.
>>80813598
good read, the rest of the thread will be shit compared to it.
>>80822498
>>80821809
They're transformers. They have dicks, but I doubt you fuccbois care.
>>80822812
the air
>>80813019
You don't have gyno, just lose weight you fat fuck.
>>80812646
There is lead in the water, in 1/3 of US cities. Ferguson is a cover up, tip of the iceberg.
There is estrogen in water because birth control and it isn't removed in water treatment. There are BPA plastics everywhere AKA xenoestrogens.
>>80819930
This is absolutely fascinating. I'm a tranny with a normal twin, so does that mean I absorbed a third female embryo in the womb? The mind boggles.
>>80828773
>does that mean I absorbed a third female embryo in the womb
Transsexuality may have a different etiology, although maybe it has the same. Maybe the amount or the area of absorbed brain matters.
Don't touch plastics on your food or water
They are domesting the population by reducing T and increasing E
Just google estrogen in plastic
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2011/03/bpa-free-plastic-products-estrogen/1#.V4YOD_RHanM
>>80812646
Your problem is you were raised as a fat piece of shit, presumably by stupid, fat parents. You had no health-minded people around you in your later years.
t. Someone who dropped out of society this year, and is chugging vodka and bad food, and doesn't have mantits.
>>80821809
>women
>>80815705
kek
>>80818483
>How would you rate subway in terms of healthiness?
I love it when overweight people talk about how "healthy" a food is. People trying to lose weight are always complaining they're not getting any thinner even though they're eating 'healthy' food, as if healthy =/= calories.
Here's a tip, if you want to lose weight, don't eat at fucking Subway. Even most of the more innocuous sandwiches contain a fuckton of calories. Stop trying to lose weight by stuffing your face with healthy food trend #3432.
> "Oh but anon, this yoghurt's got a bacteria that's got a great effect on some stuff in your bowels and it totally puts your bowels into burn mode!"
Ok, great, let's see how gorging down 700 calories worth of 'healthy' yoghurt is going to fix your weight issue
>>80813284
I've been thinking of doing a 23andme test to see if I have MTHFR mutations that would interfere with my methylation cycle but the idea of giving my DNA for a company to sell along really concerns me
>>80812646
you've just got shit genes my man, don't have kids!
Just buy testosterone cypionate (cypionate effects in a couple of days) and take 0,75-1 ml per week to reach your natural max production, then clomids at the end of the cycle and your set for life. Also keep lifting, take zinc+magnesium and you will feel great. Before you ask, I did this two years ago and I'm still feeling great.
>these dudes blaming estrogen in the water for their subpar appearance
Its probably true but everyone is drinking it and not everyone looks like a gyno autist manlet.
>>80813598
>somatropin
>bad
What am I even reading?The guy who wrote is completely clueless.If you only knew how some people INJECT it you will be amazed then.
>>80839897
meant to say how many*
>>80821809
Uggo keep getting uggo women pregnant?
>>80812646
Stop eating shit, stop eating protein. There you go.
>>80813598
This is just basic stuff for me, and anyone who has even a slight intrest on health
Why the fuck this is a ''shock'' to anyone?
What the actual fuck?
But nice that you posted this. Some reason, people lack the will to swallow the redpill on food and enviourment, haha fucking cucks.
>>80813019
Not doing a three day 5x5 split... Probably why you are not making any gains.
5x5 got my bench to 225 in 6 months, and my squat to 355 in the same amount of time.
>>80813019
lmao. just lmao @ u, OP.
fag.
hijacking this thread. /biz/ here, I need your help.
>>>/biz/1378589
Can you help this poor soul, /pol/?
>>80813598
I'd wager thispic is mostly inaccurate based on what it presents for coffee.
Coffee boost testosterone secretion, But it also boost overwhelmly cortisol level, which in return fuck testosterone.
It doesn't feminize anyone, and like wine is ok at small dose.
A nice logorhea to say don't overdo anything...
>>80813681
Your increased levels of bodyfat (you're literally overweight) will be lowering your testosterone far more than anything in the food you eat.
Your feminised features are 100% the result of being a tubby fuck.
Lose some fucking weight.
Also if you're not doing full body barbell work and least three times a week you need to start right now. Compound movements with heavy working sets are the best way to stimulate test and high production leading to greater strength and mass gains.
>>80812646
Get more:
>zinc
>active vitamin A sourced from butter, cream, full fat yogurt and milk, and liver - conversion from beta carotene is inefficient
>cholesterol - starting material for testosterone
>don't be afraid of saturated fat
>cut back on omega-6 polyunsaturated fats - this one is probably as important as cutting out excess sugar
>>80812646
>>80813019
Very possibly you have shit genetics mate
Didn't read the thread but juice your fucking balls off OP
Do it right with PCT
Get big once and your body will be changed forever, muscle memory is a beautiful thing
>>80813019
You need to be doing more cardio than lifting. And I'm assuming you're still going over your TDEE even without sugary products. You eat a lot of carbs? And you're overloading protein.. Is that from shakes? If so, how much fat and carbs are in it? Blame the system all you want but it's you that has to change yourself. Portion size is essential. Small meals more often throughout the day.
I see no results. You're obviously doing it wrong. Not exerting enough effort perhaps. Work on lowering BF% then work on muscles. Personal training would probably help you ten fold.. Knowledge is always power, even when it comes to lifting weights.
you look worse because the muscle forming below the fat is pushing it out looking like you have pointy tiddies
try reducing your calorie intake, eat only complex carbs before workout and avoid fats
also change your routine from 5 days lifting to 3 days lifting and 2 days cardio in between
having less lifting days means you will put more effort into each, also allowing your body to recover between each lifting day maximazing gains you might be losing from overtraining
on lifting days you can eat plenty of carbs to have enough energy, on cardio days, avoid carbs, but eat plenty of protein
protein is more necessary the day after the workout, so you can eat 100g on lifting days and 150g on cardio days
don't worry, cardio won't burn off your gains if you eat enough protein
>>80813536
>Stop lifting and do cardio
this is the correct answer
too much caloric intake, you need to burn more energy.
>>80812646
You need to run more than anything and look at targeting specific muscles it's not enough to just eat well and lift shit
