As an insider, I will short tell you you what will happen until the end of september from Turkey's perspective. Everything has changed, including Erdoğan(he isn't in control anymore, he is controlled by a pro russian nationalist, Perinçek who worked for MIT for more than 50 years)
>Turkey allies with Egypt
>Turkey lets Russia to use Incirlik
>Turkey allies with Iran
>Turkey allies with Iraq
>Turkey allies with SYRIA
>Turkey cleanses all of Kurdish militants in North Syria, 3 camps in total and finally Qandil.
>American and NATO entry will be completely prohibited at Incirlik airbase
>NATO will take back their B61s and other systems
>USA will start to lose control in Middle East, will start following an isolated politics, which hints a possible Trump victory.
>Some huge leaks will be published by RT and Snowden, I don't know the exact details.
>ISIS and FSA will get completely destroyed, it will be a conventional war against all those terrorist forces, including the last remaining Kurdish militants.
>Saudi Arabia will economically start declining heavily, as an oil pipe agreement will be signed by Israel-Russia-Iran and Turkey.
>USA's Iran dream will be over as Israel will start defensive politics, Bibi will have problems. He is soon to be replaced.
>Putin, Erdoğan and Jinping will meet at China.
>It will start the new alliance of Eurasian Union
>NATO will dissolve, again hinting a Trump victory.
>Immigrant crisis will continue in Europe and probably in Turkey too.
This will be my first and last post. In short; A HUGE anti terrorism wave is coming, America will be isolationist after Obama ends his term, and A new union will start being builded. Feel free to save this post, and check it at the end of september.
>>80650313
Have a bump for the effort roachbro
>>80650313
>Perinçek
Who?
>American and NATO entry will be completely prohibited at Incirlik airbase
I don't give a shit about NATO or the shit-hole that is known as the Middle East.
>Some huge leaks will be published by RT and Snowden, I don't know the exact details.
Are these related to Clinton?
>USA's Iran dream will be over as Israel will start defensive politics, Bibi will have problems. He is soon to be replaced.
I am not following, what was the dream here?
>>80650313
>As an insider
Some sort of proof would be nice.
>>80650313
>flag
>serious post
Roach, just hide in your corner and eat decomposed mold. Turkey is insignificant and weak. That's way Erdogan the Pig is trying to distort your attention from the economy with nice tricks and gimmicks like Islamism and Kurdish inside-job conspiracies.
>>80650313
Massive change as OP sucks more dick then ever before
>>80650313
death to pislam
>>80650822
That wouldn't be much of a change now would it lol.
>>80650313
I would read this but you're a cockroach so nah
>>80650313
My question to OP is how in the hell did Erdogan loose control to a fucking Pro-Nationalist?
Are there any Turks watching this thread who can answer this question? I don't know much with regards to Turkish politics.
>>80651075
>Pro-Nationalist
I meant a Pro-Russian Nationalist.
>>80650313
>insider
Nice meme
>muh Ottoman Empire
yea no
>>80650313
If this happens, I shall call you only sandnigger from now on
![netanyahuyoung[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Bq0Qzov.jpg "netanyahuyoung[1].jpg")
> Bibi will have problems. He is soon to be replaced.
pls no
>>80651280
>>80651466
Turkish bros. Can someone explain to me how a totalitarian like Erdogan lost power to this guy OP claims?
Who the fuck is Perinçek??
>>80650313
>implaying middle eastern politics dont change every year or saw.
Its unstable as a turk with a unshaved beard.
bump you faggots.
This is some major shit OP is saying if it is true.
bump
Keep the discussion going you inbred faggots.
>>80652379
there's not much to say...op is being autistic and those things will obviously never happen, are you retarded?
>inb4 shill
>>80650313
I highly doubt an "insider" would know how to greentext
>>80650313
You're full of shit. ISIS cut through some of the kurds to meet the turkish border but the kurds are still there fighting with all the other sand niggers. NATO dissolving? in you're fucking dreams turkroach, the Europeans would be scared shitless of being invaded if they left NATO.
>>80652475
The only thing there that I see likely to happen are the leaks and the fact that the immigration crisis Continues.
I very much dout Erdogan will give up his new-Ottoman dream that easily. Also, how in the world would a Pro-Russian nationalist get control over Turkey?
>>80651565
He is some dirty politician that has ties with so-called "deep government" of Turkey. This organization was seemingly irrelevant under Erdogan's authority, yet he became dependent on them upon loosing everything on foreign relations. He is not to be trusted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do%C4%9Fu_Perin%C3%A7ek
I'd regard OP's claims as some wishful-think-t(h)anking though.
>>80650313
>Ottoman Empire fantasy
>>80652840
>how in the world would a Pro-Russian nationalist get control over Turkey
precisely...
i would have MAYBE been fooled by "anti-us" "pro-isis" but never siding with the russians.
The only possible way in the world this would ever happen would be if the jews were in legit deep shit with the US so they need mother rusland for protection or oil or bombs or whatever the fuck
>>80650655
Saudi Arabia has been deciling and the US is hoping to mend relations with Iran and replace them with Saudi Arabia as their best Middle Eastern Ally that isn't Israel.
>>80653041
>yet he became dependent on them upon loosing everything on foreign relations.
Interesting.
>>80653041
Well, Erdogan DID apologize recently to the Russians about the shooting of one of their planes.
bump
Eh, Trump going full isolationist will give Russia massively increased leverage in the region, so this new union is somewhat possible, and would be smart of Turkey to jump on it while possible.
But who knows what's gonna happen. World is getting crazier every day.
>>80653175
>Well, Erdogan DID apologize recently to the Russians about the shooting of one of their planes.
Yes he did, but from that to a strategic military alliance since Turkey is part of NATO is a long journey
If there is no jewish trickery involved, i seriously doubt this
No way will the Kurds be neutralised so easily.
>>80650313
Turkey isn't smart enough to do that.
>>80652840
Erdogan floated an idea to destroy Turkey as a nation a while back. He wanted to nationalize all Syrian refugees.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/syrians%20citizenship%20turkey%20akp%20erdogan%20racism%20nationalism
It's make or break time for Turkey and Jewdogan. They need to take power away from him or they're done as a nation.
Yeah, why not? I'll check your prediction in September. I'm curious to see how much of it is going to come true, if anything at all.
>>80653386
Would you fight alongside the roaches unless it was vital for your survival as a nation?
>>80650313
You guys are obsessed with the kurds. Genocide seems to be one of your secret hobbies. Do you people meet in a chatroom and talk about genocide fantasies and fucking goats?
>>80653041
I know OP is full of shit but siding with Russia is more rewarding than siding with the US as far as Ottoman fantasies are concerned.
>>80654135
GERMANY NO!
A-are you a Nazi?
>>80650313
>Feel free to save this post, and check it at the end of september.
>I can't believe it's not just another happening thread.
People say shit like this all the time man, late last year there was some faggot posting riddles that hinted Europe would be depopulated by a super virus in January of this year. And wasn't the US dollar supposed to completely collapse in late May-early June? What makes you so special?
>As an insider
Who the fuck isn't?
>>80654201
Strategically, that's for sure but the sides were drawn a long time ago, and I don't see the US giving up on Turkey so easily to Rusland.
Again, the only possible way this would ever happen was if the jews were losing grip on the US somehow and/or were in danger, which I don't think is the case.
Speculating on this it would be funny to see Russia support Israel rape of arabs because muh fight against terrorism and new alliances form.
HeyGuys insider here xD
>>80654729
Kek
>>80650313
We have to evacuate and isolate this thread. It radiates pure autism, it will infect everyone, fast fast!!!!
>>80650820
Pretty rich coming from a non county
>>80655338
We're doing pretty fine, but your jolly union won't soon m8
>>80653151
I had actually hoped for exactly this. But I find it hard to believe.
>Hisbollah/Israel
How could the USA ally with Iran then?
>worked for MIT
do you really think the gavurs in this board will get what those letters stand for?
faggot
If Erdogan thinks you are not completely agreeing with him or if he needs someone to blame for his own actions the deal will be cancelled asap.
That whole alliance will last a couple of years and if he thinks he got what he wanted he will say good bye.
This is what he did all the time in the past and he will continue doing that.
As he brought turkey economically forward he was like "look at me I'm the biggest" andgot cocky. Then he burned all bridges behind him and wondered why he got no friends in the world anymore.
Now that ISIS knocks at the door at the worst possible time (he just wanted to get rid of the kurds now and forever) and Iran's influence in the middle east is becoming a big thread for him he looks around and sees russia.
Too bad he just shot a plane, but hey, it's Putin. He doesn't really care about one plane less. What he is interested in is power, and a good trade partner for his gas reserves.
Now Erdogan got to decide if he wants to stay isolated or forging an alliance with his, not-so-best-friend Putin. The lesser evil will be chosen and the negotiations (which surely included a deep dive into Putin's anus) will be announced as a rising friendship with much handshaking and smiling.
Deep down Erdogan knows he is not the husband inthis marriage and will get a divorce as soon as he got what he wanted.
>>80652840
This guy knows more than first dumb. Erdogan have almost total control over country, because of his hidden jewish agenda military also supporting him. His argument with west just false flag movement. He did everything they need. ww3 under it's way and all of this bullshits just part of it.
In short Turkey wants to BTFO Kurds. What's new?
>>80650313
I actually fapped to this post.
>>80657099
I really don't understand you so called redpiled western folks. You and i or any of us have none problem with each other. Just them the real enemy, making us evil for each side. As a turk which i lived i fucked i drinked for a time in europa i only have friends in there. But if u support groups for divide my country , give them arm and logistics support. If u will take them as a migrant and give them political support. What can i think about you ?
>>80652750
Not if europeans hate their own treacherous terrorist government to the point where Putin liberating them from the tyranny only makes sense.
Which is already the situation now but just wait until they get wind of the whole clinton/us tavistock/eu facts.
There will be blood of marxist traitors worldwide.
Mankind is awakening.
>>80653772
Visa deal with ru is going through
Either erogan wants to kill turkey or ship all surians to eu
Btw for the turks here
If erdodong and ak is so.bad, why havent any of the previous non akparty governments get anything done?
I cant believe theres still no such thing as Koksal Baba porn. Capitalism, you have failed us.
>>80653041
> in Deep shit with US
Trump will release the 28 pages that price mossad committed 9/11. Americans will froth at the mouth at their so called "greatest ally".
Holocaust 2: electric boogaloo begins
>>80653550
This...."CLEANSING" them is no easy task. They have some of the best fighters in the region.
>>80651145
I can't vouch for the name but I can give a generic response:
Turkey is a country used to lean on some world power. All our politics, governance, international relations, foreign policy, industry is based on that principle. Had it not been US-British, our next choice would be USSR (we even flirted with USSR in late 1950s)
Now, the question is: is USA really withdrawing from middle east? will Nato dissolve or become some meme organization? if yes, then Turkey's approach to Russia is not surprising to me.
>>80657934
kurd-land is not your country
>>80658710
You lean on each other
>>80654435
>Soviet Union used to be the Harbor of Jewery.
>Now the US is the harbor of Jewery.
>mfw The roles are reversed once again.
>>80655639
Why is there a star of David behind him?
>>80656828
Millî İstihbarat Teşkilatı (MİT)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Organization_(Turkey)
Kek, what a heap of bullshit
Turkey is aligning with the Israel/Saudi/US alliance. The purpose is to wreck the middle east, cut it up into pieces and divide it among themselves. It's already happening in Syria.
>>80658801
What makes your country yours ? You guys must start to think with your brains. Kurdish citizen member of this country as much as i. None difference. He owns the whole country but now in that region there is a war over a 40 years and neither side have nothing.
>erdogan lost control
u sure you living in turkey mate?
>>80653151
>US is hoping to mend relations with Iran
It seems difficult. Iran has good relationship with China and Russia.
>>80659302
where was the, .. serbia ?
>>80659427
>hoping to mend relations with Iran
>while simultaneously harboring the qatari saudi terrorist spy huma abedin and financial terrorist george soros, among so many other fucking inherent issues
Good luck with it.
>>80659302
Yeah, go back to the English classes, turkroach.
>>80659953
Why i should learn more than i need ? How proud are u for knowing english well ? Is that full filled your ego against me ? How many of u which thinking himself much better than others because he born in right place, can fight fist to fist with others ? Don't be lame be smart..
>>80658055
>Visa deal with ru is going through
SO what you are saying is that Russia will be "enriched"? LMAO
They already ave like a 20% muslim population so I guess it cannot get much worse.
Also, CHECKED
>>80660364
Wew lad, I really got you triggered, didn't I?
>>80660912
Man i am drinking my cold beer and listening mozart - requiem. So you didn't :).
>>80660691
Eu not ru eh
>>80661205
Good, fella.
We're all friends, r-right?
>>80661262
:^(
Shame, maybe there will be hope for Europe if Trump gets in though. He really wants to build safe Zones in Syria so we can dump all of the Migrants there.
>>80650822
lol'd
>>80661391
Of course ;) I wish best for you..
>>80661742
Likewise
>>80657934
You're telling that to me? A Greek? You serious?
>>80657934
piss on islam
Sounds great, but too good to be true.
I'll dance of happiness if it does happen, though.
>>80663131
So what ? I even had a greek girlfriend. So a person can hate someone just because of born place ? Nonsense. I'm not wanting put terror on your land or i don't have desire to take Atina.
>>80663637
What do u believe ? Do u believe anything ?
>>80650313
Lost me at
>Incirlik
A US base is there. No way Russia will be there.
I'm just getting my popcorns ready after this point. This isn't politics, this is drama.
>>80664172
>I even had a greek girlfriend.
>>80664247
US will tear this country a new asshole before that. NATO will have to collapse first.
>>80664795
You know what i mean :D I should improve my english grammer.
>>80658411
it will be here soon
>>80651075
>>80651145
the guy is a commie, so he was a russian sympathizer back in the soviet days. however it is a loosely kept secret that he worked undercover, so after the collapse of soviets his stance shifted from pro-soviet to pro-national leftism. It's similar to the original statist government model Ataturk envisioned, without the vision of Ataturk of course.
>>80665226
what, did you get into her pants with your body language?
>>80665447
>the guy is a commie
Better get rid of him quickly.
Sounds like he will cause more problems than you already have lol.
>>80664172
Tell that to your government with the shit that they're pulling in Thrace and the airspace invasions.
>>80665551
She wasn't acting like smartass as you. She knows the meaning of words important not foreigner language rules.
>>80665813
who is getting rid of whom? the deep state runs very deep here and he's a pawn.
>>80666030
>of words important
are you sex :^)
nah i'm just teasing you, you're alright.
>>80665250
kek
>>80665977
Man what i am trying to tell you all goverments are infected. That's the problem. Airspace invasions hmm how are they effecting your life. Is that really reason for consider a nation as enemy. Those are baits for creating a evil enemy. Be open minded.
>>80650313
>Immigrant crisis continues
At least give us hope man, I know Europe is a lost cause but I'd like to believe in a future.
>>80666713
Let's see, a foreign fighter enters my airspace I have to counter it. Expenditure in fuel, maintenance and who knows maybe an 'accident' i.e. loss of life.
Plus all the effort to turn the rest of the Balkans and the Pomak minority against us. I would say that creates at least distrust.
Personally I don't know you. Maybe we could have been best friends. On the international chess board that's an entirely different game.
>>80667079
Its not a lost cause if Safe Zones are created immediately after the removal of Isis. Then if there is support from the President of the United States, mass placement of the Syrians can be placed back in Syria. The other migrants will be trickier but hopefully the US can help.
>>80650313
>USA will start to lose control in Middle East, will start following an isolated politics, which hints a possible Trump victory.
>USA's Iran dream will be over as Israel will start defensive politics, Bibi will have problems. He is soon to be replaced.
I'm sorry but these 2 don't add up. Netanyahu fought tooth and nail to keep his position after Obongo and friends ran a campaign against him. He's even endorsed Trump, if Trump wins why would he go anywhere?
>>80667448
https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/feb/19/kurds.helenasmith
What should i think ? Trust me, support of your country to this terrorist , damaged me much more. But i know, a regular person in the street of athens have nothing to do with it. He is not my enemy unless, if he take his weapon, come to my land and try to throw me out there that's a different story.
>>80667627
Why would you need safe zones if isis is gone ?
That makes no sense.
>>80653550
Jordan and Saudi will devide Turkey beause there is no Ottoman empire.
>>80650313
Ottoman colonialism was over, Kurds take back Dyarbakir and Greeks take back Izmir, and you Turks take back the shit you usually ate in your village.
>>80650313
>its an "im an insider" roleplay thread
>>80650313
>NATO and the US doing anything
Yeah right.
>>80652962
Erdogan is corrupt as fuck. It would not surprise me if he got to deep into the shit. Also the deep state seems real as fuck. None of those wolves ever got in trouble for killing all those leftists in the 70s-80s.
So I would assume Erdogan had to make some deal with the deep state early on and got deeper and deeper into debt. Probably making more and more promises to them. Like the deep state are loansharks on a whole other level.
>>80651840
It's bullcrap. Unless there's a nuclear apocalypse, NATO won't go down by September. Turkey will be still a member, although it may work to mend ties with Russia.
>>80669130
>and you Turks take back the shit you usually ate in your village.
The only shit I will be eating will be the shit-eating grin I'll have on my face when your dreams go POOF once again, K*rd :^)
>>80669949
>>80669130
>>80668323
Nope. Someone's terrorist is another man's hero. Besides rubbing shoulders with ISIS isn't helping either. They go full jihad in your land but you didn't even mention them. Why's that?
>>80669499
Yeah because we never do anything right?
How about Canada? Now THERES a real world player.
>>80670557
Well, i tried man. If someones hero is a baby killer, mass murderer, traitor , etc. that someone is a shitty person for me and have no value. All i am trying to say we ( common people) are not ruling that's for sure. Isıs created by mossad controling by mossad armed and trained by cia, etc. It's using my land using other guys weapons others strategy, politic support, ... Just try to find what is hidden what is truth. World is obiviously not as it meant to be and we need each other more than we think. Best wishes..
