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Current Status: Coalition 73 Seats - Labor 66 Seats.

76 Seats needed for majority.

6 Seats still too close to call:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/
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>>80050555
Nice dubs

I just started a thread, but I guess we can use yours...

>3% of the vote counted in the last 3 days
>Still only at 83% counted, 5 days after the election

So how colossally did the AEC fuck this up?

From what I've heard the people counting the ballots had no clue about what was and wasn't an informal vote. For example, they were counting votes where less than 6 numbers were written above the line as informal, when in fact they are formal.

Can we expect any significant (((changes))) to the final vote count? Especially with regard to a certain senator and her team?
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fuk yeah we have one whole seat this time
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>>80050746
AEC are fucking retards

my guess is that we will have to have a recount and then another election
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>>80050762
Winning a seat in the lower house is actually a pretty big achievement.

I am no fan of the greens but you need to acknowledge that winning seats off of the major parties is extremely hard to do.

I hate the greens' ideology but I always have a cheeky bit of regard for how they have eaten into labor's base.
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>>80050762
One (1) seat
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>>80050926
yeah, i see what you mean but what the fuck are they gonna change with one seat
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>>80050733
It's in reference to the medicare boner the Greens have.
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Oi you cunts you should see this, /QA/ is getting raided.

We're getting blamed for the Easter spammer

>>>/qa/catalog
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>>80050555
Why does it take so long?
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>>80051081
>>80051081
>what the fuck are they gonna change with one seat
Well you have to start somehwhere. Obviously they plan to build on that one seat and win more in the future.

The libs threw a psanner in their works when they decided not to give them preferences any more.

But they are now a close second to Labor in a few seats, and also threatening the libs in a couple more.
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>>80051201

Because we have a parliamentary democracy m8
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>>80051201
The electoral commission fucked up the count

They are in damage control, trying to restore the public's trust in them

They're having to re-count all the votes now because nobody had any clue about what counted as a formal or informal vote
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>Labor and Greens gets more votes than Coalition
> Coalition gets more seats

lamo Australian democracy is a joke
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>>80051201
They have to wait for two weeks after polling day to let postal ballots come in.
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>>80051512

That's because the seats that are Labor are more heavily Labor because all of life's losers tend to congregate in the same scummy areas
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>>80051870
on ya, mick!
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>>80050746
>Can we expect any significant (((changes))) to the final vote count? Especially with regard to a certain senator and her team?
Apparently the recounts are favoring LNP on 2 party preferred.
Not sure if there will be a significant difference to our girl's results.
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>>80051870
legend
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>>80051512
Labor and the Greens aren't in a coalition and disagree on most issues
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>>80052324
>disagree on most issues
Not sure how good a call that is m8.
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>>80050762
the media always hype the Greens up that they and their supporters start believing in their own hype.

They didn't even come close in my seat (Grayndler) where they were widely said to be in with a shot of beating Albanese.

They plastered the whole electorate with billboards and mailouts, but they still only got 20%, which is less than the Liberal who got like 24% in this apparently hard-left seat.
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>>80052543
NSW Greens are the shittes tin the country.

Full of trots and infighting. They always do way below their potential.
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>>80051870
Based Mick Brown from Coffs Harbour
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>>80052543

Greens shit everywhere in mine and they couldnt hit 8% and thats a electorate with the actual reef thats apparently dying
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>>80052543
The Greens perform much better in Vic than NSW though. They came scarily close to getting Batman, and made significant gains in Wills.
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>>80050844
My conspiracy theory is that we're being coerced into accepting electronic voting, they shut down poling stations and have put the AEC on a go slow for that very reason. I expect the media to carry on about the process and demand change on the behalf of the plebs they want to defraud in the future.
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>>80052736
They did good in Higgins and Melbourne Ports too.
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>>80051512
The votes aren't equal cunt the seats are
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>>80052543
same, in my seat (isaacs), not even get 10% whereas labour got 44%
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Really makes you think
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Ignorant Brit here

Who do we want to win?

Australia is very Asian now, is anyone stopping that or are you cucked like Europe?
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>>80052879
Europe is less cucked because atleast they practice trade protectionism
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>>80052879
Pauline Hanson's One Nation
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>>80052879
>Who do we want to win?
Doesn't matter, they're all the same: globalist shills

> anyone stopping that or are you cucked like Europe
No because there is literally nothing wrong with legal, wealthy Asians

enjoy your syrians and pakis tho
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>>80052792
I won't be surprised to see them pick up at least one more seat next election. Not that I want to see that.
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>>80052879
we want greens to win m8
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>>80052879
We take more immigrants per capita than you do
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>>80052971
>there is literally nothing wrong with legal, wealthy Asians
Chink detected.
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>>80053062
>LE FUGG LE JINGZ XDDD
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>>80052971
t. Joseph Xiangtangwang
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>>80052971
Fucking robbed so many gooks growing up it's not funny, my city gentrified the ghetto I grew up in
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>>80052974
>Not that I want to see that
If they win it from Labor I won't mind. It sows strife between them.
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>>80052971
>>80052971
>Believing the legal wealthy Asians are good immigrants meme

They are soulless, heartless insects. Just because they don't commit nigger crimes doesn't make them good contributors to this country. They are like parasites, sucking the host dry, leaving behind a soulless, cultureless husk, leaving ghettoes in their wake.

Fuck the Chinese, especially those mainlander cunts. I have to work in an office which is 90% mainland Chinese, and it's fucking hell. The farting, burping, spitting, hawking, coughing, incessant throat clearing, loud phone conversations, stinky as fuck food. These people are rude as fuck, make no effort to accustom to our way of life, and only ever expect hand-outs. They are ALL only children, greedy little spoilt manchildren.

I FUCKING HATE CHINESE PEOPLE
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>>80053220
Yeah but I live in one of those electorates.
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>>80052971
>John Tawon EggFryRi Mao
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>>80052971
>No because there is literally nothing wrong with legal, wealthy Asians
Except the whole they have no business being in a White nation and undermining the quality of life for White people.
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all we need in this country is some cunt that can speak like Hitler. and a decent uniform to go with the party.
come out of fucking nowhere next election, and 2 weeks before vote date spam shit everywhere calling yourself National Socialist.
only send flyers with socialist principles to lefty scummy areas
then send National principles to coalition areas.

then get on tv and start tearing the other cunts to shreds with your godly voice.
youd win it piss easy.

then go full dictator and burn down every mosque the night you are elected
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>>80053225
Yeah they are techonologically and philosophically deprived animals just like niggers, except instead of nigger brains they have gook brains (Makes them good at tetris and that's about it)
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WHAT THE FUCK IS TAKING SO LONG
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>>80053180
nice lad any stories? id rob gooks if i werent a christian
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How can I get involved with right wing politics in North Brisbane?
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>>80053409
postal votes m8
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>>80053225
Well said m8. They are drones and can only function as parasites.
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walk around with a half aussie half swastika flag
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>>80053470
Sign up to the Bernardi Youth

It's on his website, he'll send you out a uniform

Or join One Nation as an actual paying member and volunteer for them, try to get involved in the politics side of it at some point
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>>80053602
meant for >>80053470
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>>80053604
Don't fuckin join Bernadi, join one nation

Who the fuck is Bernadi? Nobody, just another fucking politician.
He'll get in line
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>>80053604
Thanks for the advice I think I'll join One Nation.
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>>80053730
Bernardi is a God-fearing Aryan hero, you little grub.
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>>80051255

They're vote is only up 1.2% on the last election. They won one seat last election and barely scraped up some of the liberal loss. The greens aren't going anywhere but down in the future.
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>>80051870
bloody oath
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Well, even if libs don't get full control at least they're still in power

Also what's the bet that labor will do hypocritical shittalking if/when the tonescoup happens
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>A YOUNG Perth man is feared to have severe brain damage after suffering carbon monoxide poisoning from a barbecue used to keep his bedroom warm.

>Jaeric Bukuru is unable to breathe without a ventilator at Fiona Stanley Hospital, more than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his South Lake home.

>The 25-year-old’s family has spoken out to warn about the deadly consequences of using a barbecue as a heater indoors during winter.

>Mr Bukuru and his older brother had brought the charcoal barbecue inside the house to cook meat.

>It’s believed the retail worker, who moved to >Perth from Tanzania as a child, then used the barbecue to heat his bedroom.

>He was found unconscious the following day by family.
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>>80054030
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/perth-man-fighting-for-life-after-poisoning-from-using-barbecue-to-heat-bedroom/news-story/84d1b215217a4c1e7b54a51b33b0df7e?nk=8561ebafea5550771d333ce3a8f12ac7-1467531242
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>>80053976
>The greens aren't going anywhere but down in the future.
Are you a psychic m8? You don't know shit about what the future holds.
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>>80052780
We literally have the fairest and and most comprehensively secure election in the entire world right now. Fuck electronic voting which is proven to be unsecure.
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Oh for fuck's sake. Seriously, if the Bolter is hurt there will be fucking hell to pay
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>>80053009
greens can win my sausage sandwich, fuck em
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>>80054030
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>>80054205
He should martyr himself willingly for the cause.

Let the fire rise.
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i love you guys.
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Didn't this election happen last week?

Why don't they have the results yet?
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>>80053322
sounds good mate, im in
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>>80054030
Huh.. really makes you think.
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>>80054400
just takes a bit
she'll be right mate
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Katter and Hanson having a legit say in parlament is actually the best thing coming out of this election so far.
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>>80055563
Yes there is hope for the future now.
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>>80055738
Fucking hell aussie sheilas are trash.
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>>80055563
Hanson is literally a comical caricature of the right. She is dumb as a brick and will only make the left stronger.
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>>80055856
They get dried out from all the salt water. Too much beach and physical activity.
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>>80055856
Trash is the only thing that gets my dick hard m8.
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What's with all the anti-Katter shilling in Aus/pol/ post election?

Katter is one of the most based politicians out, and is 10x a better meme than Pauline 'AFP Watchlist' Hanson.
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>>80055975
Me too, m8. Me too.
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>>80055916
She has made the right stronger. She is the only right-wing person who has ever succeeded in this country in the modern era.

The thing that makes the left stronger is when the cuckservatives in the coalition stop standing up for right wing values.

Hanson will stiffen them up because she poses a threat to them from their right.
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>>80053009
Thanks for clarifying, ausbro. Here's hoping the Greens can convert all those votes into seats. Would lead to better democracy, right?
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>>80055986
I think Katter is great but his deal with the coalition made him seem like a union-cuck like any Labor MP or the other paid for independants like Lambie.

It's a lot harder to like politicians in bed with the unions, even if it makes sense for him being a protectionist.

It looks like the coaltion will win a majority regardless and toss Katter aside.
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>>80050746
>less than 6 numbers were written above the line as informal, when in fact they are formal.
No they aren't.

You must number at least 6 boxes above the line or your vote is informal.

The reason that it's taking so long is that all the poll votes are counted, so now it's down to postals and other shit. That stuff takes wayyy longer to verify, especially with every party breathing down your neck demanding a double-check each, which turns into a quintuple check.
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>>80056352
>You must number at least 6 boxes above the line or your vote is informal.
This is wrong. You are talking out your arse.

Why don't dumb shits like you actually educate yourselves before spouting off your bullshit?

Go read Antony Green's election blog and educate yourself.
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>>80056352
You can do 1 or 6+, not 2, 3, 4, or 5.
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>>80056516
Why the fuck would I read some random no-name's blog when the fucking AEC website itself tells the truth?

You can even go and read the fucking legislation - you know, the actual fucking law - if you've got doubts.
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>>80056352
AEC worker here. A single 1 above the line or 1-3 below the line are formal. They're savings provisions brought in to stop dumb cunts from wasting their vote because they didn't listen to the idiot explaining how to vote on election day.
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>>80056552
>You can do 1 or 6+, not 2, 3, 4, or 5.
This is wrong too. Anything more than 1 counts too.

>>80056629
Search for "Savings provision" m8. and FUCKING EDUCATE YOURSELF

http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/
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>>80056352
Sorry m8, but you're wrong

>>80056552
Wrong also

As long as there is a clear indication of preference, and that can mean as few as 1 or as many as 20+ votes, it's a formal vote. Forget about the mandatory 6 votes thing, it's not true. Even a single X above the line is counted as formal, since it indicates a clear preference for that party.

Read up about it on the AEC website.
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>>80056724
>>80056768
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/cea1918233/s239.html

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/cea1918233/s269.html

Clearly says here 1 or 6+
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http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2016/06/2016-senate-calculators.html

>For the last 32 years, a single '1' above the line has been formal, with the ballot paper then taking on the full group preference ticket of the chosen party. The new system has abolished the tickets and now a minimum six preferences is the instruction for completing an above the line vote.

>However, with 95% of the electorate having voted with a single '1' for three decades, requiring six preferences had the potential to create a huge increase in informal voting caused by voters not being aware of the new instructions.

>To avoid increasing informal voting, a generous 'savings' provision has been included in the act. Any ballot paper with a valid first preference above the line will be 'saved' from being informal. Such a vote will count for the candidates of the chosen party and for no other candidate or party on the ballot paper. A ballot with a valid first preference will be valid for every further preference completed, so a 1,2 is also formal, a 1,2,3 is formal, as is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and so on.
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>>80056666
>>80056724
>>80056768
All wrong.

At best they are informal votes that are being counted anyway, not formal votes. Savings provisions are not the law, they are bending the law because people are fucking dumb.

Yes, I'm aware that savings provisions are perfectly legal, but they are still "outside the rules."

To cast a formal vote you must number at least 6 boxes above the line. Anything else is not a formal vote and will not automatically be counted. If you do not number at least 6 boxes above the line and your vote is not counted you have absolutely no right to complain, because any savings provisions the AEC allows are at the Governor's pleasure.

Do not number less than six boxes above the line or your vote may not be counted.

>b-b-b-but it might be counted
Yeah, it might be, if you're lucky.
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>>80051870
Fucken oath.
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>>80056956
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/cea1918233/s269.html

> (1) A ballot paper in a Senate election is not informal under paragraph 268(1)(b) if:

> (b) the voter has marked the number 1, or the number 1 and one or more higher numbers, in squares printed on the ballot paper above the line.

HURR DURR I DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ LEGISLATION
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>>80056981
What you think some random AEC nigger just decides to count "informal" votes for the fun of it on a whim.

You don't think the AEC has legal advisers? You don't think they know exactly what is legal and what their requirements are?

You don't think all of this is being scrutineered up to their arse holes?

YOU IGNORANT FUCKING CUNT WITH YOUR PSEUDO-LEGAL BULLSHIT TALK.
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>>80057155
>What you think some random AEC nigger just decides to count "informal" votes for the fun of it on a whim.
No, I think that the AEC decides whether to count informal votes collectively as an organisation. A decision this year may not be the same as a decision next year. The legislation may be amended. Any number of things might happen.

Do not vote informally or your vote may not be counted.
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>>80056981
Then it's a matter of definition

But the main point is that even if you number just 1,2,3 - the vote is COUNTED (whether or not it's deemed to be formal or informal is beside the point)
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>>80054030
Fucking hell. Whats wrong with these people? I saw an African lady suck the snot off her sons nose and spit it out. Why are these fucks being let in?
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>Talking shit about based Antony

I was a polling assistant on Saturday, the AEC didn't really fuck up so much as it was just a failure of communication.

We were told to tell voters the spiel, "you have to number either 1 to 6 above the line or 1 to 12 below the line".

It wasn't until we started counting the senate ballots and asking about what was classified as informal or not that our second-in-command supervisor asked our supervisor and we were told that, actually, so long as there was a clear '1' preference then the paper was valid. We'd already sorted a bunch by this point so I can imagine at some polling places this wasn't made clear to the uni students and retirees counting the votes and some were incorrectly sorted as informal.

You did need at least 12 below the line though.
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>>80057245
>Do not vote informally or your vote may not be counted.
You will know in advance which kind of "informal" votes will be counted and which won't.

They do not make these decisions after the fact.

And it is all clearly set out in legislation.

Your argument is terrible you cannot admit you are wrong you are an absolute cunt.
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>>80057314
>I saw an African lady suck the snot off her sons nose and spit it out.
Disgusting. A real Aussie would have swallowed it.
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Fucking hell can the election finished up so people can stop being coy and get back to political bants?
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>>80057273
Yeah, and if you draw a dick in the box and balls in the other it might be counted too. If you write "They're all cunts" over your otherwise formal vote but it obscures some of the numbers it might be counted, maybe not. If you write a 10,000 word erotic fiction about child abuse in the world's smallest handwriting it might be counted.

Or it might not.

Voting informally is not the correct way to vote.

>>80057372
>Your argument is terrible you cannot admit you are wrong
I'm not the one who said an informal vote was a formal vote simply because of an arcane savings provision from 1911.
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>>80057421
>being coy
I don't think you know what that word means m8.
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>>80057434
You can draw as many penises on the paper as you like, just as long as you put a number 1 in a single box above the line it is formal.
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>>80057520
I didn't say on the paper, I said in the box. A dick is one, and there are two balls. One and two, or an informal vote?
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>>80051870
Do you think he preferenced One Nation above the Libs?
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>>80057434
>Or it might not.
No, you will be able to tell beforehand what will break the rules and make it informal and what won't.

There is no element of doubt. The policies are all made very clear before the election. It is not a risk if you do a little research.
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>>80052543
>(Grayndler)

what suburb you in?
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>>80057616
m8 the diabetes and heart disease would have carried that bloke off years ago I reckon. Just look at him.
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>>80051168
I bet Canada did this. Not that /int/ doesn't deserve it. But only a Canadian would collect counterfeit and poor quality pepes.
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>>80057639
>There is no element of doubt.
Yeah, the AEC counters and scrutineers are vat-grown counting ubermensch without a single idea of their own inside their biologically programmed brains.
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>>80057724
They have a hierarchy and a chain up which things can be escalated. In this manner the policies used in counting are made standard across the whole country.

Any deviation would leave the election open to legal challenge.
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>>80057472
nah I reckon I used it ok.
They are keeping their opinion and shitalk all quiet to look more appealing.
Sure it's not 100% accurate but spread by asschecks cunt
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>>80057724
>>80057866
On election day the vote counting is very decentralised, there's very little oversight from anyone not at the polling places. This is why they're doing recounts that are more closely scrutinised at central locations now, I can guarantee that the definition of what was informal was muddied for the counters at a number of polling places.
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>>80058375
In the end m8 it is all standardised.

Scrutineering in the close seats in particular makes this unavoidable.
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>>80058215
Fine i fucking wont

the libnats will grind this country into the ground get rid of medicare like they fucked the nbn and everything else.

Come at me i voted labor and greens cunts
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>>80050555
>Nick Xenophon Team
>Best name
>215,919 votes
>aussie donkey voters
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I voted:
>Coalition
>Christians
>Family first
>Shooters 'n Stuff
>Liberty Alliance
>Pirate Parten

did I dun goffd?
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>>80058982
>did I dun goffd?
You did shit m8. Fuckin coalition way too high on that list. No Pauline either.
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>>80053976
never underestimate sjws, they have power in their retardation
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>>80058982
>no One Nation
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>>80059083
I'd rather give them a higher rank just to make sure labor doesn't win...

>>80059165
fugg
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>>80059488
>I'd rather give them a higher rank just to make sure labor doesn't win
This makes no sense. You should have educated yourself on the voting system before voting m80.
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>>80050555
Hung parliament please
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>>80059627
fat chance shitbird
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>>80051870
Legend
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>>80059165

Ameribro knows where its at! ONE NATION
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>>80059768
Thanks m8. I admit I make some pretty good posts here.
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>>80059726
I don't want any of these cunts to be able to do anything
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clubbing near melbourne tomorrow, also getting a hiarcut and having a bbq before. Fucking swinburne is 50 percent asian and 5o percent muslim
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>>80051168
This has canadian false flag written all over it.
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>>80060077
>Canadians are so cucked they have to pretend to be another country to shitpost
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?=ihrRSnkvFNw&v=Npl7fuTvANg
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>>80060073
You sound like a real normie m8.
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>>80056140
hgnrrrr
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>>80054400
postal votes m8
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Who ready for 2010 again with 3 fuckwit independents completely holding the swing but with Libs instead of Labor.

I'm FUCKING hyped.
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>>80061640
Nah Coalition is going to get a majority
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>>80061640
>Katter
>Fuckwit
You're a fucking gullah, mate, get the fuck out of my country, cunt.
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>>80050746
>Dubs
I bet you voted for turncuck huh
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>>80053409

lazy government workers i say.
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>>80061804
>gullah
confirmed for nip with a tourists aussie slang dictionary
get fucked m8 before our gooks take revenge for nanking
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>>80061640
Fucking oath i'm ready cunt.
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Sooo, pedos in government, what do you reckon?
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>>80066686
Derryn "I swear she was legal" Hinch won't allow it
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>>80056981
Extreme autism
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>>80050555
LDP STILL BTFO

GET FUCKED GUN KEKS
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Australia is doomed now lets be real
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>>80068318
>he doesn't want more freedom
The only cuck here is you
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>>80068550
Australia is nothing but a big caribbean country at this moment.The chinese are going to take them over soon
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>>80068550
That's no way to talk about your brother/son Spose we're a bit ambiguous there. You're related neway so, shush.
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>>80069238
I suppose uncle would be the operative term
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