Can some people be born as homosexuals? Is it genetic?
I think homosexuality is to some extent congenital with some guys, but they however would not be gay in a society that would not promote it.
Can threads be born as politics?
>>79930770
Simple answer? Yes people who turn out gay are born that way 95% of the time.
It has to do with the 3 major hormonal waves that a baby undergoes in utero
It's likely something that's very affected by xenoestrogen and water contamination from women who take the pill and then piss out the excess estrogen.
Homosexuality is pretty natural though.. a lot of animals are way gayer than humans. Hyenas, giraffes... there's quite a few examples, I'll let you do the googling
BTW I'm saging this thread because it's not related to politics
>>79930770
It's probably genetic, and thanks to the west's public acceptance of it, the gene will be decimated. many fewer gays will stay in the closet, breed and pass the gene
>tfw liberals genocided the gay comunity
Apparently you can
However it's very common that fags/trannies have had a traumatic sexual experience in childhood. It's always something.
Genetic? I dont think so. I can't see how a "gay gene" could exist. I do think shitty chemical diets during pregnancy fuck up the development of embryos. Another reason there are so many fucking autists born these days as well.
Maybe it's just because I live in a large city, but jesus christ if it doesn't seem like people are becoming fags just to be trendy. There are SO MANY fucking faggots and dykes. I'm seeing more and more coal burners too.
t. San Diego
>>79930770
>Can some people be born as homosexuals? Is it genetic?
Yes of course. It is possible to be born a homosexual. The same way it is possible to be born a schizophrenic. The difference is that we just encourage the faggots and trannys to listen to the voices in their head.
>>79931557
>there are so many fucking autists born these days as well.
Autism isn't real. What is real is the schools and ignorant/lazy parents putting their kids on powerful sedatives and anti-depressants without thinking these experimental drugs have consequences.
>Is it genetic?
No. It's a learned behaviour.
Homosexuality is about 25% genetic/hormonal and about 75% father issues.
>>79930770
I want to pretend that I'm gay so my parents stop bugging me for grandchildren. In reality, I'm just a weeb who couldn't care less about relationships.
Good idea? Bad idea?
>>79930770
Homosexuality is a form narcissism.
You find an alterity through an individual of the other sex but when you're homosexual, this alterity is non-existant. You're basically attracted to an extension of your ego who shares the same physical characteristics.
>>79931282
You know what's also natural? Rape. Should we accept it because it is natural or are we gifted with reason and should therefore act according to it.
>>79930770
With a genetic disposition to being gay in the same sense one can be born with a genetic predisposition to being schizophrenia, addiction or religion.
>>79930770
I ask liberals how being a faggot isn't a choice yet they believe sexuality is fluid.
They told me it has to do with society influencing people's sexuality subconsciously. So I guess that means getting rid of degeneracy is the cure.
>>79932113
>Yes, good Deutschgoy, don't breed and save the white race, stay a NEET and let immigrants do the breeding for you
>>79930770
Homosexuality and transgenderism might be encouraged by an increased production of opposite sex hormones. However, this is not enough, since more feminine men(pussies) have always been a thing and they tend to be less degenerated.
The most solid cause of homosexuality is feminisation of the foetus in the womb, which increases as a mother has multiple babies. It's not necessarily genetic but it may well be present in some form at birth.
>>79931966
No it's not you retard. A 4 year old boy dressing up and putting on makeup then getting funny feelings for boys isn't learned behaviour.
>>79932113
Also I think there would be a lot of benefits such as getting away with all kinds of shit like you see with Milo.
The only problem is that I find the idea of being with a guy repulsive. Would people notice if I said I'm gay but never showed up with a boyfriend?
>>79930770
>Can some people be born as homosexuals? Is it genetic?
>Nathan:"And by the way,
you decided to be straight? Please. Of course you were programmed. By nature or nurture, or both."
This is all you need to know.
>>79930770
It's caused by a pathogen:
>The most likely explanation for human homosexuality is that it is caused by some pathogen. It’s too common to be mutational pressure (and we don’t see syndromic versions, as we would in that case), it’s not new, identical twins are usually discordant (~75% of the time), and it’s hell on reproductive fitness. There is no way it is adaptive: the helpful gay uncle notion, group selection, compensating advantage in females, etc: these range from impossible to bloody unlikely. It doesn’t exist in most hunter-gatherers: you have to explain what it is you’re even talking about when you ask them.
>[Quarterly Review of Biology] note that variations in hormonal levels before birth don’t seem to cause much trouble, and conclude that humans adjust to those levels – homeostasis, basically. They suggest that this is implemented by epigenetic changes, and that sometimes those epigenetic changes are not properly reset in the next generation. Leaky epigenetics. They note that variations in hormonal levels before birth don’t seem to cause much trouble, and conclude that humans adjust to those levels – homeostasis, basically. They suggest that this is implemented by epigenetic changes, and that sometimes those epigenetic changes are not properly reset in the next generation. Leaky epigenetics.
>Of course, this hardly ever results in funny-looking genitalia – you’d think it would, but then natural selection has made that kind of error rare. Of course, it should have made epigenetic leakage that cause low-fitness behaviors like homosexuality equally rare.
So says Gregory Cochran.
>>79932391
Sexual attraction doesn't manifest until puberty, you fucking mongoloid!
>>79932391
The only way you can be homosexual is through external stimulus like movies, television, education, social environment etc. The only reason why humans have sexuality is for evolutionary reproductive need, and with homosexuality human reproduction is not possible and thoughs the species(Humans) would die.
>>79932788
And what about homosexuals before the period where homosexuality was promoted?
Faggot here: yes, I was born this way and I've been trying almost all of my life to be straight. I just cant, I love dick too much.
>>79933204
>And what about homosexuals before the period where homosexuality was promoted?
Homosexuality doesn't need to be promoted, homosexual activity can be produce through external stimuli like social environments etc
>>79930770
It's a mental disorder so yes. some can be converted though.
>>79933369
We still had sodomites in the middle ages, even though it was forbidden. What were their social stimuli?
>>79932146
Rape is the natural order.
stop whining.
>>79932113
You fucking shame your ancestors
If homosexuality was genetic, wouldn't it have been eliminated by natural selection by this point?
>>79933688
yes.
lefties can't seem to grasp that.
>>79933444
>What were their social stimuli?
I will give you some examples - observation of naked men, female contact/isolation, social abuse by other men or perhaps women etc the stimuli are countless.
>>79930770
You may be born homosexual but nobody is born a slut
>>79933613
So mean. That's why people don't like you guys.
>>79933688
If Down syndrome was genetic, wouldn't it have been eliminated by natural selection by this point?
>>79933688
That just means it isn't hereditary.
>be born as a chad
>turns out gay
Why is this allowed
>>79933688
>>79933804
It doesn't mean you aren't born gay though.
Biology is more than just genetics. It could be caused by a lack of testosterone in the womb.
Or by the mother consuming Xenoestrogens.
Or by a lack of or excess of a certain type of bacteria that the child is exposed to during the birthing process, that affects the brain development of the child in very specific ways.
Or by any other number of biological factors.
There are a whole bunch of reasons why someone might be born gay that have nothing to do with genetics.
>>79934180
Bisexual is masterrace actually
>>79930770
No, they are not born this way. Each and every one of them, who claims that he was gay since childhood was simply molested by another, older degenerate. And most probably will molest some other kid.
Decadent and degenerate fucks.
All of them should fucking die, enablers included.
>>79934219
Or its just a combination of genetics and environment.
Which is the most likely, but least fun answer.
>>79934262
>Increasing your chances of getting aids.
>masterrace
pick one.
>>79931966
explain gay animals you fucking fagot
>>79932146
>You know what else is true about Y? Z is. Therefore X is wrong and immoral.
>>79933804
>>79933688
>not understanding basic genetics (mutations)
That's not to say I don't agree with OP. I think people have more or less of a propensity to be willing to have sex with men. However, exclusively wanting sex with men should be extremely rare. Possibly, somewhere around 100 in the entire world.
>tfw anime boys turned me gay
>>79934646
because they look like women, you are still straight idiot
>>79930770
Homosexuality is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the White race.
WTF happened to you /pol/? Is just all the summerfags?
Studies on identical twins show that homosexuality isn't genetic.
>>79930770
Of course, they always are. Denying this fact is an autistic meme.
I think it is to a degree. Being homosexual I had absolutely zero interest in relationships with females but discovered that I liked guys more. I do find females attractive physically, though, just not on any meaningful level.
>>79937901
how is it not genetic
you can't convert a straight person to be gay and you can't convert a gayfag to be straight
how the fuck
>>79937580
>Homosexuality is a Jewish conspiracy
No, it is not. But the over-promotion of it is.
>>79938124
Your point? There's a difference between nature and nurture. Monozygotic twins have the same exact DNA. How can homosexuality be genetic if you have many cases of one identical twin being homosexual while the other isn't?
>>79930770
>TFW the gays have been fully integrated here and are now accepted as bros.
>>79931282
But there are no full gay animals are there. All of them attempt to reproduce with a women at some point in their life. I think it's more like they have gay encounters
>>79938303
nah, fuck your nuture theory
even a kid raised by fag parents will still be straight if he's fucking straight
if he's a fag then he'll be a fag
>>79931557
Sounds like Baader-Meinhof breh, there aren't more of X population you're just looking out for them and confirming your biases
>>79938303
The opposite is actually the case senpai
>>79930770
Toxoplasma Gondii turns people into insane cum-pig disease vectors, if they are exposed young enough. They tend to be taller than average, and totally unaware how degenerate they are. Cats are the perfect bio-weapon. Those Egyptians didn't mess around.
>>79931310
Never thought of this. But isnt this a win-win-win? Everybody gets what they want...
>>79938580
The opposite? Ask yourself what's the opposite of having identical DNA.
Gay pride is just another word for "white genocide".
>>79930770
Why gays are gay.
>>79930770
I had a cousin who got a gf, said it wasn't for him and went gay. So it's probably a choice.
Bisexuality is an evolutionary advantage since they fuck more women overall due to their high libido. Homosexuality is just the side effect since sometimes it can turn you full homo.
>>79938752
I lot of gayfags get married and live their entire life with a woman.
Your cousin was either a faggot from the start or he's bisexual
>>79938853
*a lot
>>79930770
It doesnt matter if it's genetic or not. A club foot is genetic, having a predisposition to alcohol is genetic; they are still disorders... possessing homosexual tendencies negate natural law and without natural law there is no non-arbitrary way to determine what is good for us.
>>79938832
Who told you bisexuals fuck more women? Homosex could just be an inherent trait and have nothing to do with libido
>>79930770
IF you are born gay, its genetic
IF you have no choice (as some claim)
THEN IT IS GENETIC!
And if it is genetic, it can be cured.
Simple.
>>79938978
Appeal to nature in the worst of ways. Our nature is to feel good. Butt fucking men makes them feel good. It's natural, but disgusting
>>79939055
>IF you are born gay, its genetic
Not necessarily, see >>79938723
>>79938978
but for example the club foot can be fixed without just killing the person and the person with it can go on to live a normal life after treatment. Why have we never tried to find a cure for gayness that can result in healthy normal living people?
>>79930770
>Is it genetic?
I'm pretty sure I come from a long way of heterosexual people.
>>79939257
Autistic people also come from a long way of non-autistic people, you fucking moron
>>79938978
>homosexual tendencies negate natural law
That's a stupid fucking argument. Do you have a girlfriend? Do you have oral or anal sex with her? In fact, do you have sex with her without the intent of producing offspring? Do you use a condom? Does she take the pill? If the answer is yes, then, by definition, you are also negating natural laws.
>>79930770
My personal opinion is that liking dicks or males is some sort of fetish that is born from an enviroment, events or accidents. Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Heterosexuality are a meme to me and I think they are nothing but social constructs, so I can safely jerk to femboys, but identify as straight.
>>79937412
Reminds me of that greentext where the guy got actually fucked in the ass and he realized he was NOT gay.
>>79934027
Nobody gives a shit about your weeb opinions.
>>79930770
I've always felt that "Is homosexuality genetic?" was an unsuitable question to discuss. It assumes that homosexuality is some separate trait from "heterosexuality." While, yes, it CAN be viewed as separate when describing it and classifying it, I don't think it helps us understand it.
There is no heterosexual or homosexual sexuality- only male and female sexualities. The male sexuality is based on sensory stimuli and a desire to fuck the object providing the stimuli. The female sexuality is based on the mental thrill of being seen as an object of desire. So the male sexuality is based on the female, and the female sexuality is based on herself.
So a homosexual male is one whose sexuality is based on himself being an object of desire. This can happen through the frustration of not being desirable to females, or through a pathological need for novelty (like people who like to try new drugs all the time), or through actual physical traits of being more feminine or pretty. In any case, it's a sexuality of narcissism.
So it CAN be genetic (there are some kids who you can obviously tell will grow up to be fags), but not NEARLY in the proportion that leftists claim it to be. It's mostly a result of a frustrated male sexuality.
>>79938429
you obviously know nothing about hyenas
even female hyenas effectively have a penis
it's horrifying. Look it up.
And while you're at it, read up on penguins and necrophilia.
>>79941620
http://www.livescience.com/699-painful-realities-hyena-sex.html
https://curiouscox.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/the-spotted-hyenas-she-penis/
literally the gayest animal out there.. they ALL fuck eachother in the ass to show dominance
>>79940922
So female homosexuality is? Is milo right then. Are lesbians just frustrated women?
>>79931282
Yeah and lots of animals ear their young. I guess we better get to eating babies because if animals do it we should obviously be doing it too. Moron
>>79941922
Lesbians are a total meme. Women naturally treat each other in a more intimate way
>>79941964
>I guess we better get to eating babies
The chinese are doing it, why aren't you?
>>79941964
Tom Cruise only had to eat the placenta to stay youthful. Maybe eating babbys makes us immortal. Sounds like you're kind of a pussy.
>>79942111
LET THE BABY EATING BEGIN
>>79932146
>You know what's also natural? Rape.
False equivalence.
>>79941887
fuck you
spotted hyenas are fucking based
they are smarter than chimpanzees
>>79941964
>>79931282
>being a homo is natural
I won't argue whether they should be or not, but rape, incest and cannibalism is natural too
>>79942345
Not to the human species.
>>79942427
Rape is for certain. Incest probably is too.
>>79942427
if you say smth is natural then you compare it to smth, like comparing humans to animals, you can't say smth is natural and it only occurs in one specific species
>>79942427
Incest is not a genetic trait, it happens by circumstance, not by nature. And how is rape natural?
>>79942498
Incest is not a genetic trait, it happens by circumstance, not by nature. And how is rape natural?
>>79942559
So, only things that are common to all living things are natural? Retarded.
>>79942659
there are animals, I think dolphins, that rape. I also don't think that being homo is proved to be genetic
>>79930770
Homosexuality as a social identity is a construct. The inclinations might be biological but these people would not seek to be homosexuals if it were not for our culture.
>>79942719
Just like everything else that is "natural", it happens naturally.
>>79930770
Yes, you can be born gay.
But, referencing OP pic, you aren't born as an flaming faggot attentionwhore. That behavior is learned.
>>79942788
no, smth natural must be in comparison to smth:
it is natural for humans to talk (for humans)
it is natural for the parents to defend their (for humans + animals)
rape, incest and cannibalism can be observed throughout the animal kingdom, ergo it is natural
>>79942813
Rape is a human construct. It doesn't exist in nature.
>>79942977
I absolutely hate faggots and I will hang them myself on the day but you have to be a blind bitch to convince yourself that homosex is a completely unnatural behavior.
>>79942846
No, it generally happens because no other viable partners are available. Circumstance, not nature.
>>79943068
I replied to the wrong person, whatever.
>>79942977
it is very rare, but still exists
>>79942977
>It doesn't exist in nature.
you've never seen roving mallard rape gangs at your local lake, have you?
>>79942284
they also all have dicks and fuck eachother in the asshole
if they can be based, so can human fags (potentially), just admit it.
>>79943078
>Circumstance
Can't one argue that if there is no other option than X, then X is not natural and there for based on circumstance?
Just replace X with any thing that only has one option.
>>79943114
Humans are the only species on Earth capable of rational thinking. That's why we have established that sex against another person's will is rape. Animals can't objectively rape because they are not aware of what rape is or that it actually exists. You can't apply the rules of human kind to the animal kingdom.
>all these shillings trying to make degeneracy acceptable
literally kill yourselves faggots
>>79943383
>Romania
Dismissed.
>>79943348
I see your point of view, but the same can be said about homo animals, they can't understand and reason that they're fucking the same sex
>>79942788
>>79942719
>>79942427
>>79943078
>>79942977
does everyone in portugal make shit up like they know what they're talking about or just you?
>>79930770
>Can some people be born as homosexuals? Is it genetic?
Homosexuality is a symptom, not a disorder in itself. I'm sure there can be genetic predisposition for some of the causes for homosexual behaviour, but absolutely not all.
>>79943453
he learned the word "construct" in sociology 101 and decided to use it here in an attempt to sound like he knows what he's talking about
>>79930770
No. You goto the gym and become homo. Its in the air.
Checkmate invader zim!
>>79930770
There are scientific studies who prove that homosexuality has an heritable component.
>>79932788
So then why do so many other species display homosexual behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_displaying_homosexual_behavior
>>79943453
>>79943495
>implying both of you know what you're talking about too
>>79943422
t. ahmed the conqueror of western europe
>>79943597
Meant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
>>79932788
>The only way you can be homosexual is through external stimulus like movies, television, education, social environment etc
Then how do you explain the existence of homossexuality in a pre-1960's society?
>>79943602
>not ME, YOU*points finger*
lmao. well and truly owned
>>79943795
kek if you say so fatso
>>79938124
There is no "being gay". There are decent people and degenerates who give in to lust. It's that simple.
>>79930770
Who fucking cares?
Just stay in the fucking closet or you will be thrown out of a helicopter.
Are people born pedophiles? Or rapists? Or thieves? Or murderers? Is there a genetic component or is it caused by how they are raised or is it ultimately a choice on their part? Who cares? We will still deal with them the same way.
>>79930770
Sexuality is malleable and can be changed. It is not genetic. This is one of the greatest lies the left has been able to get away with. Sexuality also isn't a choice though, so most Christians still BTFO.
>>79943888
trips of secretly being in the closet
>>79943895
>Just stay in the fucking closet
Yes, goy, let the degeneracy and lust grow at home.
>>79943873
mericans...
They always think their opinions are somehow worth more solely by the virtue of posting with a american flag. It's probably a Cletus from mississipi with nigger blood, like most of them
>>79930770
Yes it's like people born with a disease from family they too can get this homosexual illness
>>79944049
>tripping outside of generals
if you want a username and upboats you should go post on reddit you dumb faggot
>>79943895
>stay in the fucking closet
>i.e. just marry, have children and go suck cock at the local gloryhole
>>79943068
>FAGGOTS STOP BEING ICKY REEEEEEEEEEE
>>79938475
Come to Bangkok, you stupid faggot. It's a trendy subculture made up because men are poor as shit and the girls are on the whole fucking terrible high maintenance entitled thirsty cunts.
I don't see why it can't be seen as aesthetic conditioning. You don't "choose" what taste you might have in art, music, politics but it isn't genetic either. It's developed over time and is purely aesthetic.
>>79943452
That's true. I've always thought the argument that homossexuality is natural because other animals copulate with members of the same sex too is retarded. We're humans, not apes. I don't care what other animals do.
>>79944288
A E S T H E T I C S
>>79944490
actually humans are a type of ape
>>79930770
The words we use, gay, homosexual, whatever, are umbrella terms that cover a range of behaviours.
Some men need sex every 6 hours and they are gonna get it. It's their wiring. Other men were impressed by something in their youth or adolescence that modified their preference. Others really are born that way. I knew a kid in 3rd grade could sing a whole ABBA song and was just that type of guy. Probably married now to some other nice guy and bothering nobody with it.
Then there's freaks who are actually boring people and use sexuality to make themselves interesting or rebellious. They call themselves queer and seem obsessed with trolling social norms.
Genetic? People are starting to understand genes aren't the essential code for everything and experiences matter as much if not more.
One day race and sexuality will just be seen as variations and i can't imagine how life will be then, but we'll just grow out of this hateful crap.
>>79944788
Rational x irrational. Don't be so literal.
>>79930770
>>79944100
>GO TO REDDIT xDDDDDDDD LELELELELELELEL xD
If i got a cent each time anyone said this to me....
>>79945720
don't trip outside of generals
>>79930770
No, all fags are a result of degeneracy and modern society, that's why they were non-existant years ago and why there are no gay animals.
>falling for the vaginal jew
Homosexuality is the ultimate redpill
>>79931282
Some animals eat shit, do you eat shit?
Some animals get cancer like we do is that natural too, and do we have to accept it has being normal?
Do you think we are not supposed to be attracted to the opposite sex?
wtf do you think sex is for?
Why do you think animals developed this feature, because its fun?
>>79945819
No
>>79932146
Some sort of retarded this one.
>>79946008
>some animals are gay so it must be natural
>some animals eat shit, should we it eat too because it's natural?
Two sides of the same coin. Bullshit arguments all throughout.
>>79930770
I'm a homosexual and I'm going to let you in on a little secret: every homosexual alive is actually part of a secret gay vampire cabal. Our mission is to turn every future generation gay untill breeding ceases to occur. The day will eventually come when our dear lord Baphomet shall return, and relinquish the human species from its eternal struggle inflicted upon it by a corrupt and maddened god
>>79946536
>>79946536
SHUT IT DOWN
>>79930770
I don't know the exact percentages but absolutely a good chunk of them were not born that way
>be me
>go to university
>become friends with gay guy
>get to know a few gays and lesbians
>lesbians nice to me but horrible to each other
>gays nice to most people but horrible to some lesbians
>all of them hate the official campus lgbt groups
>gays discriminate against lesbians
>lesbians discriminate against gays
>everyone hates bisexuals
>many are uncomfortable around trans
>trans people are the worst fucking human beings
>angry and bitter constantly
>talk to the gays I know enough to learn about their childhood
>some combination of abusive man in their life/ overbearing mother
>several lesbians had single mothers who chose horrible boyfriends/stepfathers but I didn't talk to them as much
>overall some of them are cool, but some of them are a gigantic incredible pain in the ass, especially the ones who did give a shit about the campus lgbt stuff and lgbt activism in general
I honestly wish someone would do a study on it though, I would be interested to see the statistics of it
>>79931282
Idiot, makes no sense if you consider the following:
Children who suffer sexual abuse in their childhood are 6 times more likely to become a homosexual
IS IT FUCKING GENETIC MY ASS,
Liberal propaganda to make it seem normal. When you find the non-existent gay gene, tell me.
>>79930770
I don't think it's genetic, seeing as those who express the trait almost never reproduce, meaning it wouldn't be passed down and so would have been eradicated long ago.
I also don't believe it's a conscious choice, as evidenced by the failure of "re-education" camps.
Most likely it's a subconscious compulsion, created by environmental factors.
>>79931886
lolno
>>79930770
Homosexuality is pure lust and nothing more. People who are gay are so sexual and so horny that they would fuck a man or a woman. Then the liberals came along and actively celebrated the lifestyle so now people think oh yeah gay lifestyle man totally awesome im so exclusively gay its amazing when in reality if their flow of male ass isnt lrovided they would happily start fucking girls. Gay sex is all about lust, look at statistics of promiscuity in the gay population and number of partners in a lofe time and you will see how this fits the description. As they say noodles bend when they get hot and when a really horny fuck cant deal with not fucking every day then man ass is the next best thing
>>79949969
It is genetic, born of incest, common in Ashkenazim. Incidence of homosexuality in these groups is about 10%.
You can research Non-classical Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia for more information.
>>79947864
Perhaps Ashkenazi parents are 6X more likely to sexually abuse.
>>79951675
But Ashkenazis also have a higher IQ. If there is a correlation between IQ and homosexuality, humanity is doomed.
>>79951852
It's a different mutation that causes homosexuality, related to hormones, and not associated with the mutations which increase intelligence (eg. suppression of anti-tumor genes).
