How do we stop the Alt-Right from becoming the new Atheism? We're having our moment right now, but so did Atheists and now they're a joke. We don't want to end up like them.
Unlike the Internet atheists of the early 2010's I believe that we are actually a force for good, but that doesn't mean that we don't have many of the same problems. I see the same edgelords that turned atheism into a cringe-fest populating the Alt-Right. They don't care about the cause, they want a sense of identity and more importantly; a free pass to be an asshole across the Internet. If we let them co-opt the movement and represent us, we will one day be relegated to cringechannel.
>>79321811
It's too late. "Alt Right" was cancer from the start.
>>79321811
You don't have a chance. Shapiro called it correctly, these people are not conservatives, they are NEET faggots with no personalities who clump together like shit floating in the Ganges. Be thankful the strong current will wash them away and we can go back to discussing how Hitler needed to stage a land invasion of Britain before breaking the Molotov-Ribbentrop.
>>79322256
I don't label myself "alt right", because I'm not a faggot with a misplaced feeling of belonging, but I like what the alt-right does and I hope they keep doing it.
Old guard betamales like Ben Shapiro are part of the problem. He's almost 100% right in his political views and arguments, but he doesn't have the balls to make a difference. The alt right are the opposite, they're less logical and prone to making hasty, ill informed choices, but they are a force for change. They want to accomplish things and not just host a panel at a conservative conference.
>>79321811
Drive out all atheists. Force them to accept Christianity. Meme the hell out of them. If anyone expresses atheistic or agnostic opinions, treat them like a radical leftist leafposter and ostracize them.
"We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people." --Adolf Hitler
>>79321811
Call out psuedo-intellectuals, ridicule them.
>>79322256
We aren't claiming to be conservatives. There are right wing positions other than conservative.
>>79321811
I agree brother. /pol/ is and should always remain a Christian board
>>79321811
we convert them to kekism
>>79323926
>/pol/ is and should always remain a Christian board
Religion isn't politics unless your're Muslim
unless your're Muslim
your're Muslim
>>79324984
Religion isn't politics he says
Activism.
We need to create Facebook groups, local meet-up groups, YouTube channels, etc. Get out there and really own the "alt-right" name. Approach it like marketing. Let's get the concept into the mainstream!!
Internet Atheism is a joke because its no longer needed. Harldy any tuned in people believe in creationism anymore. They're preaching to the choir. The day the Alt-right become the nu-right will be the day most people are alt-right.
don't label yourself as alt right or even use the term. Stop giving attention to kikes like milo
>>79325348
Internet Atheism (spurred by New Atheism) was jewish to its core
Shut down 4chan/pol for its own good
4chan was the biggest mistake any "right wingers" ever made, it ruins anything it touches and makes it too easy to ridicule by the masses and media.
>>79323414
>thinking Hitler was actually Christian or pro-Christian when he attacked it for being weak, just like Nietzsche did
HAHAHAH YOU FUCKING IDIOT
HE WAS LITERALLY JUST TALKING DOWN TO THE MASSES
>>79322225
actually you're right.
but it's more than the "alt right"
the "Alt right" is just the culmination of 4chan's degenerate "old" culture that started on /b/ in the early 2000s. A culture of pornography, chaos and contrarianism.
You like to deny this and say it's just redditors or kikes or trumpfags, but really, this "alt right" cancer is simply the face of 4chan. You're seeing yourselves in the mirror. And now you realize you made a mistake by coming here.
>>79325339
you dont really want to be labelded as alt right. its cringe. ill make a video and upload it, where i pretend to be alt right in public i got my ass beat almost for telling a black guy his fat white girl was the best he can do and shaming the white girl telling her her kids are going to come out with more problems i back it up with stats.
>>79321811
The far left is already the new fedora. Comics and memes are wrecking them just like what happened to atheists in the early 2010's.
Unless you reject 4chan itself , you'll never be free of cancer and degeneracy.
You're trying to make 4chan a "moral right wing" place , instead you should be leaving 4chan behind because it's pure filth and you're just addicted to it.
4chan itself is, and always was the problem.
>>79323414
This is good but meming by Internet culture isn't the way to go about it.
You need to form a group of traditionalists who oppose the Internet and technology and realize the net itself is part of the problem.
>>79322256
how is a jew like shapiro a conservative? When at his core he doesn't wish to "conserve" anything?
The whole problem is that the so called conservatives have been taken over by leftists/liberals/foreigners.
>>79325933
Redemption is not needed among saints, now is it?
>>79325933
Kind of projecting there pal
Christians should spread videos that expose the Internet and technology as the modern Tower of Babel and promote a simple lifestyle.
You'll even find some common ground with radical leftists with the "back to nature" angle. Read people like Postman, McLuhan, Ellul etc and start realizing the screen itself is part of the problem.
>>79326292
>You'll even find some common ground with radical leftists
doubtful...
>>79321811
>but so did Atheists and now they're a joke
Atheism became a joke because it was infiltrated by SJW
you are a joke because you're dumb.
no one in his right mind would take you seriously, not now nor ever.
>>79326426
Obviously their reasoning is totally different. But I truly think that some leftist/hippie types have SOME common ground with traditionalists, they're just misguided. But they still realize the same fundamental truth that modern society is dehumanizing. You see articles about unplugging from the internet/media all the time in far left circles.
>>79326490
>Pakistan
>>79322256
That's a hard way to earn shekels, Kangaroo Nigger.
>>79326158
Posting serious things here isn't the same thing as promoting a meme culture. Thing is, 4chan is inherently tied to cynicism and chaos, and really is very anti-traditional. You might be able to reach out to a few people but it's a mistake to treat 4chan like a home base.
those edgelords OP is saying that ruin every movement.... that's 4channers. Plain and simple. It's what happens when people try to use 4chan as a platform for their ideals
Trump is pretty much solving is problem for us. He's basically a secular conservative with strong nationalist values and a complete disregard for political correctness. By earning the GOP nomination Trump has legitimized the alt-right in a way that no "atheist" scholar could has ever legitimized atheism.
>>79321811
The very fact that you think atheism is a bad thing is proof that you're the exact kind of person who is ruining the reputation of the alt right. Maybe you'll stop spamming outdated fedora memes that stopped being funny four years ago now that they're being used to smear your political dogma. Dumb fucking cuck.
Those Atheists failed because atheists always fail. They mocked God and now they're all working as prostitutes (Kelly) or killing themselves with alcohol. Or worse, they're uberSJW freaks (AronRa). The harder you mock God the harder you fall.
>>79326855
Atheism is a bad thing. However I don't agree that it's a good idea (or even possible) to try to make /pol/ share a single religion or ideology.
/pol/ will always be a shithole full of people flinging shit at each other and it should stay this way. Better for serious right wingers and/or religious conservatives to find a better platform for their views, preferably in real life. This is just a battleground.
alt right was always a cancerous notion. it's just the way jews try and categorise and thus control /pol/. look at milo and lauren southern for instance, neither stand for any kind of white identity, both promote amorality, degeneracy and most importantly of all, zionism.
They're bossy cunts and they are just as bad as the SJWs with their persecution and warrior complex.
>>79327018
This.
but I do have to say, "alt-right" is in a way the culmination of 4chan culture. Which was always degenerate and amoral. Tread carefully with trying to court channers as a group
>>79321811
too late, you're already a joke
>>79327382
4chan was always a joke
the problem was people who took it too seriously
The alt-right has always existed. It's just the non-fundmentalist, non-neo con war hawk conservative. We have always been around in great numbers, it's just that the Christian right (and more recently the Tea Party) have been such a loud voice this entire time they took over the GOP. We've been voting Republican this whole time because it's the lesser of two evils.
You're now seeing it catch on because 1. Our candidate is the nominee and our views are finally forefront on the political landscape and 2. Now that we are out in front, others (typical athiests youth, LGBT etc.) are seeing that the GOP isn't just for people aligned with the hardcore Christian Right. They used to vote Democrat for social reasons and civil rights reasons, but always lean fiscally conservative otherwise. Because of this, gay marriage being legalized federally and the ChristianbGOPBbeing forced to move on to other issues might be the best thing that's happened to the party.
>>79327724
You're right.
The problem is when these people started to use 4chan as a base, thus bringing with it the cancer and autism of it. Now it can't be taken seriously... all part of the plan of course. /pol/ was a containment board created specifically to make the opposition easy to ridicule in the media.
>>79327724
also not entirely.
"alt right" is being used to label everything from the libertarian leaning milofag types, to the exact opposite, full blown natsoc and reactionaries who are the complete opposite: socially conservative and fiscally liberal.
Kikes push the former group as the face of "alt right" to co-opt the movement as much as possible.
Start the Alt-Right+ right now before the feminists do it.
>>79328231
Nah
the far right, religious traditionalists, and the moderate but nationalist left (i.e. Milo and most trump supporters) need to stop associating with the same group.
>>79321811
>How do we stop the Alt-Right from becoming the new Atheism?
You don't even have to try. One is right-wing anti-egalitarian the other one is left-wing ultra-egalitarian. There can be no overlap between these groups except at a very superficial level.
>>79321811
don't label yourself """alt-right""""
It's a fucking Jewish label invented to destroy the new right.
Just be a nationalist and a patriot, pure and simple.
>>79321811
>How do we stop the Alt-Right from becoming the new Atheism?
Why do you want to stop /pol/, cuck?
>>79323926
>/pol/ is and should always remain a Christian board
/pol/ never was and never will be a cuck board.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10289721
http://www.strawpoll.me/10536889
>>79328701
nah
"alt right" at this point is used to label so many different groups that oppose each other almost diametrically except on a few issues (like white/western identity and closed borders).
Most of the Trump supporters currently labeled "alt-right" are egalitarian libertarians with some nationalist leanings but are still a far cry from the neo-reactionaries
The way I see it is this:
No one but idiots are going to publicly say they're alt-right. For starters the name doesnt even sound good.
Secondly, it sounds so fucking showboaty like when vegans or athiests do the same thing
I think no one useful would say they're alt-right. Conservative, reactionary, race-realist, libertarian, etc. definitely, but alt-right not so much
Imo, alt-right is something you dont identify with, but is a catch-all term referring to what you identify with. For example, I dont know if any of the French New Right went out decreed 'We are the French New Right!' It just sounds silly. But the ideas and people behind it are lumped into the FNR. Same here.
Honestly, the biggest issue right now are the Stormfront idiots who spout outdated race memes that discredit everyone else, and the meme teams on Twitter that honestly need to take it down a notch
And saying that '4chan, no the entire internet is the problem; we need to just get off the internet entirely!' is some of the most divide-and-conquer asswipe bullshit ive seen in a while
>>79321811
Drop name-branding titles such as "alt-right".
It only serves to attract attention whores and give the Left a label to group and attack people with.
>>79323414
But we need the atheists. To have meaningful political expression you must be willing to compromise
>>79330731
This - stop giving them something to lash out at
>>79321811
because we end up in literal armed militias and revolutionaries, atheists end up with bananas in rectum and euphoric nihilists.
>>79321811
New atheism was destroyed by the cancer that was atheism plus I.e. Feminism because they wanted to make it more inclusive
>>79321811
With the power of Lord KEK of course.
>>79321811
>Alt-Right
>Our movement
Alt-right is a joke already made up by people trying to cash in or get attention off a return to realpolitik
>>79323414
Not your Christian army
>>79321811
The alt-right is a cancer that should die as quickly as possible. It's an amalgamation of what's worst of the right, backed by all manner of leftist conceits. Though it's sense of nationalism is laudable, the degree to which they'll elevate this above all other things, and the lengths they'll go to happily accept the worst elements in support leads to the inevitable conclusion that the well will once again be poisoned, and that this taint will sabotage the good that would flow from a self-interested people keeping to their own in peace with other like minded nations.
Not to mention that it's peopled by utter fools (besides the lowest common denominator malcontents and race war wannabees). The alt-right doesn't have it's own candidate >>79327724. It's been identified as a burgeoning niche and was marketed at by a narcissistic con-man, who's far more at home with all that they hate rather than themselves. That the alt-right believes itself to be in the ascendancy is laughable, that they'll find political success in this cycle or any other a sick joke. They are irate, reactionary tools trying to push American politics hard towards the European model, where the internationalist socialistic left has a virtual monopoly on power and a radicalized right is society's boogimen patsies, with few other outlets besides hate groups. They would be Obama's final act in the transformation of America, were they to have any longevity.
>>79321811
don't let the kikes essentialise us
>>79331715
Exactly, we have no essence, alt right doesn't exist we are what is.
>>79323414
Hitler was pro-Islam
>>79321811
you're too late. the seeds have been sown.
>>79321811
Avoid having a meme kill your ideology. Tricky, but maybe we can learn from the past.
>>7932181
>How do we stop the Alt-Right from becoming the new Atheism?
stop using the term "alt-right"
>>79323414
Or no?
The Constitution is more important than the Bible.
the (((alt-right)))
>>79323414
>Hitler being pro-religion
Keke fucking rino. Hitler hated the church and only left it into place because he needed the german mostly Lutheran population on his side. He supported Islam only to fuck up French and English rule in their north african and middle east colonies. Everything in Nazism was about the secular state. Like in the Soviet Union.
Nobody likes kid fuckers so start there
We aren't the alt-right. The alt-right is just some jewish ruse.
>>79321811
>implying the alt right was a joke from the start
>>79323414
Also, your founding fathers were classical liberals. They could not give a shit about religion. They actually did their best to make it as small as possible in the consitution at the time being.
>>79332883
*wasn't
>>79325152
You are right in you proposition, but that map hurts my eyes with contemporary borders.
>>79332367
Do you agree with that post?
I hardly see many "alt righters" especially trump/milo lovers agree with Evola
>>79332684
the Constitution allowed for Jews to take control.
It's a fucking Jewish document
>>79333063
Jews didnt even vote until the 1800s senpai.
>>79333063
Nah, the jew concept is a communist scheme.
>>79333063
>Jews ignoring the Constitution allowed for them to take control*
Women's Suffrage was a mistake.
>>79321811
>committing to a 'movement' for life
You're doing it wrong. Just ally yourself with whomever is the least shitty faction in society at the moment. Gotta maintain that balance and rein in the crazies whoever they happen to be at the time, pham.
>>>>79333037
Ignore the focus on Evola and focus on the cult-like post. Anyone who isn't completely devoted to it faithfully is a shill and must be excluded from the borg. I want Western Civilization to wake up and flourish, not turn into an Asian borg state.
>>79323237
>balls to make a diff..
What difference is it that you have made? You've pushed forward a candidate who is hot hair and can never back up any of his wildly ridiculous promises, to the point he has to backpedal on immigration and the wall now. He already said he wont block Muslim immigration, remember how that was a thing for a whole 10 minutes. Trump will fucking say and do anything, he is more of a shark than Hillary when it comes to appeasement because he believes in serving himself only.
Conservative values are just that, pushing forward your ideas at making a better society and meeting opposing ideas in honest political debate and elections.
The last 2 election cycles and this one in particular have been just disgusting, tactless display of zero integrity or morality. You do know Jon Kasich or Ted Cruz absolutely smash Clinton right? They have zero dirt on them and are actual politicians, the ONLY ONLY ONLY way Clinton could ever win 2016 is if a clown like Trump would run against her and somehow secure the republican nomination, making them a laughing stock of a party. Something like 30% of the country wants Trump to drop dead. This is the guy who will win a general election?
>>79326147
He believes in decreasing the size of government, banning abortion and same-sex marriage, rolling back the gay agenda, is against affirmative action, thinks transgender is a mental illness, believes in the same God Christians do and wants to debate about facts and issues not emotion and sentiment. What more does he have to believe in to be considered a conservative?
>>79326757
>>79323479
That's why the Republicans don't want you, you're the 2-3% of the population that is batshit insane. You would vote for Trump if he was even more radical, maybe deport some Jews while were at it yeah?
You as speakers for any political movement instantly delegitimizes it in the eyes of anyone who isn't mentally ill. Good job, you got Clinton elected and you worked for free.
>>79333803
Which do you see as "cult like"?
Evola itself, or that poster who opposes evola and calls him a faggot.
I do agree, I'm skeptical of evola because some of his so-called "traditionalism" is heavily connected to Hindu and new-age crap that the UN is pushing
Little chance of that, especially since oppositions parties in both countries are self-described SJWs. Democrats have shown that with there pandering to illegal immigrants in the lead up to the election, and Corbyn's new Labour have made that clear the last couple of days. The only thing you can do is be very careful of insurgents. Heed my warning, you stupid cucks, you hear me! Do NOT let the alt-right agenda be subverted by group-think, and you will be fine. Also, always, always, do your fact-checking. We keep it up like this for a decade or so and there's a chance the West can enter a new Golden Age. If we cock up, I believe it's doom-and-gloom from here on out and we're unlikely to get another chance.
Screen cap this shit if you want, you know I'm right.
Keep out the Jews faggots and women from roles of leadership especially visible roles.
Sorry Milo, hit the road you faggot kike
Well, Atheism went to shit due to virtue signaling. Quite a lot of groups die that way.
When they start, they´re made of normal people having sensible, albeit non-mainstream opinions. However, in order to gain status in said group certain member will signal just how much they identify with said group. They will do it by militantly supporting said groups views, even if it´s totally contradictionally to the initial message of said group. Look at how extreme feminists hijacked a movement which once advocated for equality and against preferred treatment of one gender.
In order for this mechanism to work, you need to have an identity though. Which you just don´t have on 4chan. At all points of time, member of your in-group can critize the party line without having to fear repercussions, while going full retard and virtue signalling will net you no net gain in status.
4chans´s anonymity is really special in that regards, we´re essentially less biased than the scientific community where the death of a prominent member who is pro X will spark a wave of new releases arguing against X.
We really don´t suffer the downsides of hierachial groups, because we lack the cornerstone of hierachy, which is identity.
Also, Tripfags are even bigger cancer because of this.
>>79331601
>and the lengths they'll go to happily accept the worst elements in support
Better to have some cuckservative shill who would rather back Hillary than support a "racist" like Trump?
>>79321811
Our memes are ten thousand times danker than theirs.
>>79321811
Imblying there will even be a future in which to give 2 fucks about whether or no /pol/ is fucking cool.
wtf is the alt-right? never heard anyone use that phrase except jews in the media. no one says i'm affiliated with the "alt-right"
>>79334052
>>79321811
Atheism was literally co-opted by SJWs. That's what Atheism Plus was all about. That's what Elevatorgate was about.
The problem with atheism was that it was against Western Civilization at its core, because Western Civilization is implicitly Christian. That made it extremely easy to co-opt by virtue-signalling leftists.
It'd be hard to co-opt the Alt-Right, because it's a conservative movement at its core. It could be co-opted by neocons or trucons, but it'll never be taken over by stupid virtue-signalling social justice fags.
>>79334052
>What more does he have to believe in to be considered a conservative?
racialism
and actually doing things about this stuff rather than spewing hot air
>>79335680
I'd say /pol/ is, at it's most fundamental, is nationalistic rather than conservative.
Perhaps nationalism is a conservative value, but I think nationalism is the primary base ideology.
>>79335066
That's the line that triggered you? Telling.
Whatever, I didn't spend those minutes writing all that out to suffer your inane strawman. I'll just point out how Trump isn't really racist, he's simply knows how easy it is to appeal to the like of you.
>>79328835
>>79328835
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus
good try though
>>79332684
hmm, much of western philosophy like the freedom and rights described by the constitution is influenced by the Bible.
you dont call yourself "alt-right" to begin with
and Atheism is literally for idoits
>>79321811
alt-righters are fags lol
white nationalism for soft hands
