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Shocking news!
Exercising does not help you lose weight. The only way to lose weight is to eat less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXTiiz99p9o

There is no magic in it. Pills from TV doesn't work. Just Stop overeating Murricans.
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>>79279043
This bait and the leaf falling got it, I'll bite.

Did you even watch the video you posted?

TLDW: Your body is actively burning calories(scales with weight).
Fails to mention the benefits of exercising for physical and mental qualities.
Make healthier food choices because it's harder to burn calories than to avoid eating something shit.
The premise of the video bases it's pitch around dindu hunters and comparing them to our seditary lifestyle.

Vox truly is shit, they're the VICE of aspiring pseudo intellectuals.
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Wtf I hate exercise now!
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>>79279043
Yes, It's all about calories in and calories out. The best method I lost weight with was 1200 calories per day and a 5km walk which is estimated to burn 350 calories.
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Guess I lost my weight with magic. I increased my caloric intake and still lost weight.
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>>79282214
did you IF? That shit is magic for real.
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>>79282397
Swimming and running, mostly. Swimming burned the weight off like crazy. I was hungry all the time too, so ended up eating more.
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>>79281893
While everything you say is true and I agree, the video does have a valid point. That being, it would be impossible for some obese landwhale to exercise their way out of being a fatass while continuing to eat what they normally do.

Weight loss is all about calorie deficits. Pure and simple. Exercise aids in that loss, but it starts in the kitchen.

That said, you have to exercise unless you want to look like a piece of shit after you lose the weight. Also good for your heart.
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>>79282538
Swimming is THE best cardio, it's just a pain in the ass to get into if you aren't a good swimmer. Any tips?
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>>79279043
I can lose 10-15 lbs of water weight in a night at my work. We have % based work per hour and the most I've ever pushed myself is 700% in a 2 hour period. Couldn't feel my hands anymore as they were bruised and I thought I was gonna have a stroke.
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>>79282887
I didn't do too much planning for it, I just read up on the form online and went out and tried it. I usually swam freestroke. My form was bad at first but it got better. It's tough to have good form until you've built some core muscle up.
Make sure you stretch well before swimming too.
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>>79282209

What's the point of the walk though when you can just eat 350 less. You'll be less hungry because you didn't walk anyway. 350 calories is a long ass walk and basically a waste of your time
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>>79279043
>Muscle weighs more than fat
>Burn fat, replace with muscle
>Somehow surprised that weight alone is a poor judge of fitness.

Anyway, I don't think anyone ever recommends not eating healthier when exercising.
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>>79283510
>What's the point of the walk
To exercise your lungs and keep your morale high. Also to get some sun that you need to produce vitamin D.
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>>79282958
I'm curious to know what type of work you do that you would physically exert yourself that much?
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>>79283510
Cardio is good for the heart.
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>>79279043
American here. I've known this for a long time, it's why I don't exercise. I eat less now but I still can't lose weight because the food industry puts extra calories in the food to make it taste better.
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>>79279043
Rubbish.
I have been pretty much house bound for the last 6 months and not changed my diet in the slightest yet i have piled weight on because I am simply not burning off more than I am eating or a balance.
What sort of quackery is this.
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/pol/ has always told fatties to just eat less. Working out however obviously helps and is good for you.
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I had 7 asparagus stalks for dinner. Goal is to lose 8-10kg in 2 months. Wish me luck
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>>79279043
It never said it doesn't help you lose weight. Everyone knows eating less it more effective.
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>>79284031
piss in a public urinal, please

kek demands it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jy3OtZAss
Kinda reminds of this
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>>79284031
>>79284112
I love asparagus but hate the smell your pee pee makes afterwards

Wat do pol?
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>>79282887
Actually boxing/kickboxing came out on top at 1200 calories an hour if I remember rightly.
>>79283510
The more high intensity exercise you do the more adrenaline is released and the less hunger you'll feel.
All those crossfit guys literally have to force themselves to eat as their metabolisms are running so hot
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>>79282214
>I didn't count my calories, but those carrot sticks made me more full than the chocolate bars I used to eat so I'll just say I ate more calories
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>>79281893
>>79279043
You know how muscles weight more than fat, the statement is still true.
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>>79279043
>Pills from TV doesn't work
Well your standard proton-gradient-uncoupling stuff like DNP will work, they'll just make you feel like shit and/or kill you if you're retarded enough
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>>79284234
Piss into a plastic bag of grass clippings.
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>move more
>Eat less
>Drink water

There's my diet book.

t. fatty
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>>79279043

Exercising does "help" but it needs to be a combination of lower energy input and more energy output.

The problem is twofold, how energy-dense modern foods are and how energy-efficient the human body is. You can exercise hard for an hour and only burn 500 calories where one of those starbucks candy-drinks can put double that right back into your system from a single cup. One step forward and two steps back is not a winning strategy.

Exercise helps because it also encourages a positive sunken investment attitude, "i'm not going to bust ass for an hour only to throw it away on a donut afterwards".
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This cant be true for EVERYONE as I eat at a 500-800 calorie deficit everyday and havent lost a pound in years. I just dont gain weight. some days I am 1000 under my goal.
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>>79279043
>Exercising does not help you lose weight. The only way to lose weight is to eat less.

what about those guys that swim across the english channel and lose 40 lbs just from burning calories along the way?
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>>79290700
500-800 deficit of 6000 is still bad
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>>79290924
1500-1800 budget depending on where i type in my weight and height. who has a fucking goal of 6000 at 175 pounds? Kill yourself
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>>79290700
Been eating 500-600 calories for 5 days
Went from 116 to 112

As long as I don't eat 2000 calories consistently the weight will not return. I have been doing this for years after I left the overweight line.
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>>79283966
This is my personal experience as well. I lost my job and became NEET for a while, didn't change my diet, and ballooned up. As soon as I started working again I was back to my normal weight in like two months. Same diet, no exercise.
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>>79279043
conservation of energy.

idiot
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>>79282397
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>>79291030
amerifats
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>>79291128
Do you work or do anything at all? how do you get energy?
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>>79283966
What's wrong with you lard asses? As soon as I stopped going outside all of my weight disappeared. Was too focused on playing video games or shitposting to feel hungry to shove 3 meals I didn't need down my throat. I literally sat on the couch and deflated. You're all fucking pigs man. I don't even drink anything that isn't water or a small glass of milk.
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and here i'am eating like an american still not gaining a pound

t. 6'1 132 lbs skelly

who else /hungryskellington/ here?
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>>79283757

im a power bottom.
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>>79291347
please help me amerifat, how can i gain weight teach me your ways, i'am a neet so i wake up around 14 - 16 and miss out on most meals
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Hi, polan.
Yah most of us are fat but that just means well die quicker so let it happen.
Also I'm teaching a Polish girl basic guitar, what can I say to her in Polish to make her bang me?

Do you guys have a secret kurwa speak like Americans do?
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>>79291301
me too. I cant get fat, im not skinny or fat, or skinnyfat, i have a normal looking body with normal muscles. feels pretty good
eating a chocolate bar atm
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Controlling blood sugar is at the crux of the matter. There needs to be turn over.

Deplete muscles of glycogen. Muscles draw from blood. Blood draws from liver. Body draws from fat stores and burns ketones for energy.

Much easier to engage that process with exercise. Particularly strength training.
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>>79291493
Height / weight?
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>>79279043

Hm. Well I eat less and go to gym daily. Have lost 50lb in 5 months
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>>79291283
I currently have a part time job while I'm not in college. 4 to 6 hours 6 days a week.

I just make sure to snack on something with calories in it during my break and keep hydrated. If I work 5 or 6 hours I MUST take an aspirin during my break to prevent a migraine. But as for energy, I sleep a lot on my days off. Don't really know what to say. When I first started doing this it felt horrible so I guess my body adapted.

Sometimes I'll drink an energy drink. It works. But I count or overestimate all of my calories.
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>>79289674
No, muscle doesn't WEIGH more than fat, muscle is MORE DENSE than fat.
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>>79279043
>There is no magic in it. Pills from TV doesn't work. Just Stop overeating Murricans.
That's partly true. The pills that work are not for sale because in a tiny minority of people it causes heart attacks.

The ones from the TV are mostly expansive fiber pills taken before eating so you feel full faster; eating less.
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>>79291683
That's the same thing you dense shit
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>>79291283
I'm going to add that my doctors have never found any problem with my body when they do their tests.
Only once did they tell me I was not eating enough because of stuff in my urine. But that was 4 years ago.

Its ironic because I see fat people.around me claim they are healthy then complain about their health problems.
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>>79282209
1200 calories sounds dangerously low, unless you're female...

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>79279043
Eating well controls your weight, lengthening your lifespan.

Exercising improves your fitness and muscle strength, lengthening your lifespan.

Both will improve your life, but yeah, exercising is kind of moot with the caloric density in American foods.
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>>79285771
>Actually boxing/kickboxing came out on top at 1200 calories an hour if I remember rightly.

But you won't be able to keep that up for an hour. I used to do kickboxing, and that shit's so hard you'll feel like dying after ten minutes.
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>>79291563
193 cm, about 75kg last time i checked
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What's /pol/'s opinion on fasting?
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>>79279043
> Exercising does not help you lose weight

> Video title: Exercise isn't the best way to lose weight

The video title is correct, as if you are starving it goes against the laws of physics for you to be gaining mass.
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>>79279043
t. the original niggers of europe
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>>79279043
>There is no magic in it. Pills from TV doesn't work. Just Stop overeating Murricans.

There is a magic pill though, its called DNP. You might sweat blood from your eyes and your kidneys might explode,.
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>>79292062
This guy is right. You could probably say that HIIT also burns like a ton of calories an hour, but no one is sprinting for an hour. There's a pretty slim chance that you have a chance at burning more than you eat, if you aren't pretty fit.
Just put down the fucking fork/eat smarter and get some exercise. It's not rocket surgery.
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>>79283510
also walking is good for your bone density.
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You still need exercise to fight off disease and release endorphins. I'd rather go swimming or bike riding an hour every day instead of bingewatching Netflix Show of the Month until sunset.
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I hate being fat, yet I am too lazy to change it.

Former fat people; how long did it take for you to actually start working out?

6ft 3, 255, if that helps anything.
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>>79279043
>exercising doesn't require energy

come on Polski
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>>79285771
Most people who train/compete on a high to elite level of cardio or strength have to force themselves eat more than they want to.
You might not be hungry during the training, but you sure as fuck are hungry afterwards.
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>>79291443
never drink water, just milk and beer.
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>>79282887
Start by doing arm and leg exercises in shallow water.
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starving yourself puts your body into a system where it tries to preserve energy the best it can and doesn't help you lose weight.
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>>79292203
>What's /pol/'s opinion on fasting?

Can only speak from my own experience. But I'm pretty much doing intermittent fasting now.

I used to have a pretty physical demanding job, and had to eat 4 times a day. Now I work in an office, and just do some weightlifting 3-4 times a week. And since I'm sitting still most of the day, I'm not really that hungry. It takes a little while to get used to, but after 2-3 weeks you don't really miss breakfast or lunch. I usually just eat a large dinner at night. Works pretty well.
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>>79292584
When I was 16 the realization of being overweight and how different I was from peers as well as how far I was from people who were in shape just hit me hard. I will add that I had a crush on someone or oneitis and they were half my motivating factor besides wanting to feel good about the way I look.

I started planning with a few wrestler bros and they gave me ideas for exercise.

I am actually autistic, don't know if that helped but I spent an entire summer doing the same thing every day. Every hour I planned what I was going to eat to when I was going to play video games or use the internet. Calories were 1200 give or take 100 a day, I even did kpop dancing for fun.

2 and a half months later I could fit into all my old clothes again. My entire appetite changed and my tastes. I found myself disgusted at how much I used to eat and became extremely conscious of how I ate.

Since I got rejected by my oneitis I still stayed strong about my desire to please myself and now my weight is a part of my everyday life. So I only eat on deficits to lose more weight, as I have no intention of trying to gain physical strength. Depression also helps you lose your appetite which I was diagnosed with severe depression. I might also have OCD.

Took me a childhood of depression and desire to start. I'll never be happy anyways I'm most likely can't see what I really weigh due to dysmorphia.
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>>79291301
me

6'2, 145 lbs

I've pretty much have the same body since highschool, and that was 15 years ago. I eat a lot, I don't do exercise except walking. Feels kind of nice but gaining muscle is a bitch because of the insane amount of food you have to eat.

Just don't drink soda or eat sugars, that's why many people are fat, especially women.
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>>79292584
>>79293855
I'm 5'2" and 112 pounds right now
Goal is 105
Ideal is 100
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>>79291301

EAT MORE

>>79291493
>im not skinnyfat

You're both skinnyfat and dumb
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>>79279043
The video's right but its poorly worded and going to cause of a lot of misconception.

Dieting without exercise can work.
Exercising with diet doesnt really.
Doing both is obviously optimal.

Its like a 70/30 split between diet/exercise.
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>>79291587
>Hm. Well I eat less and go to gym daily. Have lost 50lb in 5 months
>Well I eat less

That's the thing. Loads of fat people join the gym and think they'll get slim by working out. But they don't change their diet. Like the video says, working out makes you hungry, so they'll compensate the hunger by eating more. And end up not losing any weight, give up and go back to their old habits.

Diet is alpha and omega in fat loss. Exercise is gonna make you healthy and feel better. But won't do much for fat loss unless you fix your diet.
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>>79294371
Exercising without diet doesn't really ****
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>lazy retards arguing their way out of exercising.

When are you slothful cocksuckers going to admit you're lazier than a nigger on welfare?
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>>79285771
>crossfit
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>>79292215
>that pic

fucking kikes stealing our nordic genetics. Looks like she can't escape the nose genes though.
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>>79279043
(((vox)))
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>>79279043
>physical activity doesn't burn calories
>graph clearly shows otherwise

???
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>>79293855
>I even did kpop dancing for fun.
Are you a straight christian white male?
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>>79279043
>We have an obesity problem in this country and we shouldn't treat low physical activity and eating too many calories as equally responsible for it.
>Public health policy makers should really prioritize improving our food environment to help people make healthier choices about what they eat.

>*translating from kike*

>The government needs to make laws to decrease the amount of food calories available to the general public.
>People need to be forced to starve through a government created famine

You can't fool me Vox.
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>>79279043
>exercise doesn't make you lose weight

please folks

make /pol/ great again

sage
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>>79283695
Spend time on /fit/
Or read the sticky there.
Yes, calories in/calories out, it's science. But exercise preserves muscle while cutting calories, because you burn muscle if losing weight. It's a bit complicated but the bennies of exercise are well documented. If you have to choose one or the other, choose exercise,. But you should do both.
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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/teacher-loses-115-pounds-documents-weigh-loss-instagram-130203484--abc-news-wellness.html

Topical. Today.
> Micetich changed her diet and began working out, documenting it all on Instagram. She said she lost 40 pounds in the first month alone.
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>>79282538
What temperature is a swimming pool's water?
What is the temperature of the human body?
Good for you, by the way.
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>>79279043
>The best way to lose weight is to eat less
>The best way to quit smoking is to go cold turkey

>scientists and researchers

Or they could easily tell us that we got ourselves into this whole mess. Just stop and think. We're surrounded by all kinds of addictive chemicals...we're fucking ourselves.
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>>79279043
the amount of sugar in food is a big problem too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkOJUMt6xSk

https://www.google.ca/search?q=sugar+the+bitter+truth&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=10Z1V4vHBIbOjwTGvKbwAQ
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>>79298774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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>>79279043
wtf is this a fucking /fit/ board ? get the fuck out shithead
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>>79292408

>rocket surgery
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>>79279043
I've been saying this forever.

When you're as fat as an american you SHOULD NOT exercise.

It's 100% diet at that point, best you can do in terms of exercise is walk a bit every day.
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>>79299354

The truth is most fat asses couldn't do any of the exercises anyway. Go up five flights of stairs? Please!

I wonder how many people have fallen victim to the reality shows with fatties dropping tons in insane periods of time. They're under fucking doctor's supervision for a reason. They have the medical team there all of the time for a reason.

The truth is that a really fat person is better off doing diet first and then when their weight is to the point that doing a jumping jack won't destroy their knees, start exercising.
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>exercising does not help you lose weight
>what is TDEE vs BMR
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Thanks OP, but I already took the redpill on weight loss. I lost 60 pounds in 9 months by just fucking eating less (went from 6 feet tall 270lbs to 210. My body type is weird, I don't look fat at this weight.)

It was a little rough in the beginning, having my body get used to a lot less food, but it worked. I capped my caloric intake to 1100 to 1500 calories per day. I cheated every now and then, but I kept on track. The weight just melted off.
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>>79299241
That was a joke you autist.
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