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freedom of movement is ensured. They also announced to switch from Pound to Euro for their accounting as of right now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/28/firms-plan-investment-freeze-amid-brexit-fallout-cbi
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>>79144980
Vodafone's German operation alone is larger than its British operation.

Of course it'd move.
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>>79145152
>Of course it'd move.
But it is just one of many and it has 13,000 people in the UK.

Also, it was just announced that of the 7000 Brits working for the EU, only about 1000 will keep their job, the rest - including their families, will need to move back to the UK, that is around 15,000 to 20,000 people.

Then Tata steel assets, 13,000 steel workers and their families (in total 30,000+) might just be destitute following Brexit.

I am not saying you shouldn't leave, but I want Brits to start acknowledging that there is some pain involved.
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>>79144980
>oh no! a bunch of corporate cocksuckers are throwing a hissy fit

This is exactly why I voted for Brexit. To fuck over the big businesses. We need small and medium size business back in this country.
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>>79145303
Yes.

There is pain for all the people I don't like.

Most Vodafone employees aren't British anyway. They're a bunch of euroscum. French, Italians, Spanish, Poles, etc...

GTFO of my country euros.
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Freedom isn't free.

You eurocucks wouldn't understand this.
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>>79145609
Oh, we understand, we just like having food to eat more than being free
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>>79144980
Well time for people who want democracy across europe to drop them.
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>>79145796
>Oh, we understand, we just like having food to eat more than being free
same here.
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The EU will hit UK with the best that they can get to make sure nobofy thinks to leave again.
Sadly Nigel will crash the UK plane WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>79145303
We must grand them refuge if they want. England is going to shit.
We cant let them hanging in thin air. They are ppl after all.
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>>79145796
This

>>79145609

Be hungry and free or fed and restricted.

No man that ever feelt hunger the pain from it would choose that again.

Thats the answer of a spoild child.
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> Brussels-funded CBI threatens to make thousands of Paki phone shop workers redundant.
> Surly sandniggers face the prospect of having to get other jobs.
> Literally nobody cares.
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>>79147937
Well yes, the state could grant them citenzship. But if a private company has to shut down a department because of brexit there is not much one can or should do
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>>79148106
Lel, so tell me, is there any field of work that do you think will start hiring people over the next to years.
Yes there is one and it's the lawyer one. Your state is going to rise taxes to pay lawyers.
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>>79144980

It's not worth sacrificing the borders to keep them.

It's also pretty much a write off if they're already switching to Euro's.

I'll cancel my account with them next month I guess.
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>>79145303

1. It's worth it.

2. Nothing to stop Brits just showing up and demanding welfare and jobs, like Africans and Arabs.

Plus a fucked economy is less painful than a shooting war.
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>>79148092

>Be hungry

vs

>Be enslaved

Guess I'm blessed my country was built by Fenian swine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuBygHvbBpA
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>>79144980
Fuck them, worst provider I've ever been with.
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>>79148092
>>79145796
It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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>>79144980
Better appease the germans again!
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>>79145440
> There is pain for all the people I don't like.

Damn taxpayers.

As an aside, never thought I'd use that phrase to describe vodafone.
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>>79148106
Vodafone Headquarters.

Not the fucking chain shops you dipshit.
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>>79149805
Just because you pay taxes and contribute to the economy doesn't mean you're not a cunt.

You need to accept that big corporations like Vodafone only care about profit. They have no loyalty to the nation and will relocate at the drop of the hat if it's profitable to them.

Fuck 'em.
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>>79149583
They're still a company dickhead, they're just not going to be based in the UK anymore.

They're not hurting more anyone else in the UK.

If you're both lying on the floor bleeding, it's not really a fucking victory is it?
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>>79144980
Fuck Vodafone.

They run a shit show organisation here and nearly went bust a few months back. (Rupert Murdoch bailed them out)
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>>79144980
>Vodafone among firms that may shift head offices from post-Brexit UK
>may
>MAY
More fucking talk from a company that hardly employs any REAL Brits anyway and actively spies on your text messages. Look it up.
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>>79144980

Any Brit who uses Vodafone is a traitor.
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was on Vodaphone network. it use to be brilliant. now it's utter shite. moved over to giffgaff.

Hold us to ransom, don't expect people to stick with your product.

Simply create a website for patriotic brits. showing those companies that are leaving because fo Brexit and show them alternatives. it's fucking dead easy to change your mobile phone company and keep your number. just an email.

In this day and age a person with a website and social influence can have enough influence to change the the profit margins of a company.

Once they realise people aren't going to be willingly held to random and it reaches a tipping point of enough of an exodus watch them fuckign back pedal
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>>79144980
Why would a business care so much about free movement? It's not like they need a steady supply of manual labourers from Poland either.
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>>79150148
You fuck ups spy on ouers.

Deal with it nigger.
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>>79149680
No, it's better to live with eu making kids toys regulations, than dying and having to do those too
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>>79144980
Who gives a shit about Vodafone?
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>>79144980
>Vodafone

Good they're expensive and shite anyway
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Vodafone is a shit carrier.
OUT OUT OUT. EE OR BUST
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Vodafone are utter shite and losing business in the UK like crazy to 3 & EE. It would actually be a good thing as the other networks (O2 specifically) have stronger ties with the UK.
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>>79151275
>>79151302
>>79151471
>>79151574
Have you considered that this thread is about lost jobs and not Vodafone in it self? Where do you think those people will go? Someone will magical separate Brits and not Brits? Or will jump increase the number of unemployed people, increasing the weight of those who actually have a job?
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>>79151772
>implying anyone cares about the pakis that work at Vodafone
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>>79144980

Good. Come to Hungary. Budapest is one of Vodafone's largest European centers anyway. We welcome our new Vodafone overl... ...nevermind.
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>muh golden shakles!
>muh shiny beads!
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>>79151820
>Brits laking the skill of reading 2 lines at the time
> Where do you think those people will go? Someone will magical separate Brits and not Brits?
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>>79144980
>switch from Pound to Euro for their accounting

Sure hope they don't consider this a long term investment since the EU and the euro are going to be dead in 10 years.
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>>79151772
>Have you considered that this thread is about lost jobs and not Vodafone in it self?


Yes, but then I remembered the Vodafone are expensive and shite so felt like saying so

the end
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>>79145440

t. pakistan
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>>79150039

I'd count that as a victory. But I'm Australian.
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>>79144980
Free movement would only be a dealbreaker for them if they didn't really intend to hire many Brits, anyway. So it's either they employ foreigners in the UK or they employ foreigners elsewhere. For normal British people, their departure would mean less competition for decent housing. Cry me a river.
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>>79151772
the lost jobs go into related industries, i.e companies who still stay here. or they retrain and go into a different field. Or on the dole.

Basically, the same decisions that people are faced when companies entrench people before or after Brexit.

Companies will get rid of as many employees as they can when it doesn't' affect their bottom line. You can be sure that AI, increased automation like driverless cars, lorries will decimate jobs across not only low-skilled manual positions but also white collar professions.

What happens to those people who have emigrated here when that happens to them? They ain't going home that's for sure. They'll be anchored here sucking on the teat of the welfare state. I'd rather have fewer people in because these the more that come, will eventually create a massive benefits bill that we will not be able to afford.
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>>79153582

>not wanting the state to collapse so you can start the purge

it's like I'm not in /pol/ anymore
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>>79153582
So you do not expect that the high skill unemployment will skyrocket? That sounds optimistic
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Call for a boycott on any company who leaves after Brexit.

Traitorous swine.
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>>79147937
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who cares? bt needs more love
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>>79145796
>>79145985
>>79148092
nobody in the UK is starving, and EU nations are on the verge of actually losing national sovereignty to the EU

I don't understand why any of you want to stay in the EU

You literally don't get anything out of it you couldn't still get without it, and you actually lost your right to self determination as a cohesive nation, people, and culture.

You're absolutely fucked in the head is what you are.
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>>79147937
asylum is only for non-white non-christians
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>>79154297
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>>79153823
Why would it? The EU's on the verge of collapsing, anyone with a lick of business sense is moving operations into the UK, not out of it.

This entire "UK shot themselves in the foot" idiocy is first of all, propaganda started by upset (((elites))) with useful idiots (you) to parrot the memes to the proles, and second of all an attempt to obfuscate the fact that it's the EU in trouble with more nations likely to leave in the near future, not the UK that is in trouble.
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Vodafone is a load of shite anyway, shite service, shite contracts and pakis for support.
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>>79144980
Their goes their corporation tax.

Oh wait.
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>>79144980
Why do we pretend as if anybody cares? Corporations switch locations all the time.
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>>79154285
Except it's false, Italy gains so much from eu. Without it Italy would be wiped. The only sensible laws implemented in Italy are eu ones. Italy would run much better without sovereignty.

Regarding colture, that is a problem you ask you self only when you have already eaten, not before. Yes maybe every state of Europe will adopt Germany colture, but that one is still better than 99% of the others.
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>>79150262
Seconding, mass boycott of vodajew when?
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>>79145352
What small/medium business is the UK capable of?
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>>79154418
Haven't read a single article about someone moving to England.

If you think that any country using euro will leave Europe you have no understanding of Europe.
There is just no way a state can stop using euro without a 10 year plan to implement the structural reformes needed to do so. No County but Germany can survive the chance from euro to something else without a civil war.
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>>79154418
Why in the world would you move business into the UK? We live in a globalized economy, not some sort of anti-globalist wonderland. There's no turning back.
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>>79154956
>Why in the world would you move business into the UK?

Low taxes, ease of doing business and the lack of corruption. This is why a lot of countries in the EU cannot attract investment.

If you do business in Italy or France, that means bribing people in private industry and in the public sphere. These countries corruptly favour domestic industry.
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>>79145352
Oh, a lot of them are fucked, too. They just don't make it in the news...sadly
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>>79155238
Yes except that for the next two years you will need to call the lawyer to know if you can sign on not every piece of paper brought to you.
Except that one cannot hire Brits because he has no idea what will happen
Except market taxation could change overnight

To do finance you need stability, and stability is the thing Britain gave up
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>>79152394
They have been saying that since it started...it never collapsed and it looks like it won't.
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>>79152147
Maybe learn to speak English because you're not making sense m8
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>>79155553
The UK is the same as it ever was. The reason why we have enlarged financial sector is because investors want a firewall between them and the corruption, state interference and bankruptcy in the eurozone.

There is short term uncertainty about market access but the EU is an irrelevance to the vast majority of UK enterprises.
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>>79147937
>britain becomes destitute third world country
>people flee in droves, hoping for a better life in europe
>get turned back at calais
>no freedom of movement
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Fuck Vodafone, their connection is shit.
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>>79155650
>autocomplete cuts 2 letters at the end of a word
>Muh do not understand
Still proves you can't read.
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>>79144980
>.theguardian
after months of lies and propaganda, why are you listening to the Guardian?
They distinguished themselves as Blairite cunts and have turned their backs on true labour supporters. fuck them and the Independent.
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>>79154285
The EU increases the personal freedom. As I EU citizens I can choose from 27 countries to work and live in, without any visa formalities.
The EU increases souvereignity as todays power comes from making the rules in world. As a the world's biggest economy we cannot be pushed around by the Americans or the Chinese. If Europeans would be divided, we would be little players in a game, where the other powers make the rules.
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>>79155723
Yes but England export financial services not food. Why shuld someone prefer London to frankfourt if England is not the open market?
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>>79144980
Better back down goy!

Wouldn't want to displease the big multinationals now would we?
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>>79156044
In the open market *
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>>79144980
Well since Vodafone don't pay taxes here and the amount they owe the UK would cover the benefit system I say good residence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23924860

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/vodafones-84bn-tax-avoidance-bonanza-nothing-for-taxpayers-in-verizon-deal-while-bankers-share-500m-8794169.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/nov/08/businesses-that-dont-like-tax
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>>79145352
lel..yeah back to 1600 amigo.
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>>79144980
I don't think I know anyone that uses Vodafone
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>>79156008
>The EU increases the personal freedom.

By crippling national governments, taking away the ability for the individual to elect leaders who then enact the law they want.

>The EU increases sovereignty

Tell that to people in Greece, paying 24% VAT against their will. Tell that to the countries being flooded with migrants, being threatened by the EU with funding cuts if they build a fucking fence.

Your bankrupt euro German empire is failing. Admit the facts, go back to making cars.
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>>79144980
maybe that way we don't have to deal with indian tech support anymore
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>>79154707
cannot believe what I'm reading.
that someone would actually say all that.
thank god brits pulled out when we did as to end up like, so unempowered.
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>>79144980

>British people vote to leave the EU
>Company decides to move to Europe because bitch fit.
>British people switch to a different company.

Sounds like a great way to do business. Hopefully all their foreign employees move back to europe with them.
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>>79151772
Who cares dude?
This system is not working. What makes you think nation can be held hostage by big money?
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A lot of companies will look elsewhere until this situation is resolved, this kind of uncertainty is never good for investment.
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>>79156008
>increases personal freedom
It won't be long before you're taken away to the reformation centers because you're being radicalized by dangerous ideologies on 4 Chan.
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>>79156403

Agreed. The European Soviet Union has just fucked up an entire generation.

The Soviet Union didn't collapse with the Berlin Wall, they took it down piece by piece so they could move their headquarters from Moscow to Brussels.
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>>79156403
Eh, never been to Italy right?
The other day I saw a politician comming from the south that was part of the North league, menacing a random girl that he would have sued her because she expressed a political opinion while working for city council (behind closed doors, not in public ). He later changed his mind when he noticed that her manager (who he knew personally), would have been involved as well.

If you never witnessed populism, abuse of power and nepotism all the same time you don't know what it means being a 2-3 tier state
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>>79154956
Half the businesses in our country want to move to the UK to cut down their tax bill. Obama has been finding creative (read: illegal) ways to shut it down. When's the last time you opened a newspaper, Sparky?
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>>79156008

Obviously the EU isn't keeping your drinking water safe because you are clearly insane.

If you think the EU Isn't/can't be pushed around by the us, you need to be committed.

At the very most basic level, you have one energy source that isnt protected entirely by the us military and that would be Russia. If it wasn't for the us, you would all be Russia's little bitch. The same applies to all of your off continent trade routes.

If you don't think that doesn't manifest itself in every facet of your economy.....
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>>79154707
Nigga nobody is starving in first world countries. Why do you keep bringing up food? Go eat something and shut the fuck up.
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vodaphone started at still operates in my home town. hope this doesnt effect me to much
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>>79157243
The brit made the exaggerate call that eu was stealing their sovereignty by making kids toys regulations and I made the exaggerated claim that I will not eat without money.
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>>79145303
>13 000 in the UK
Yes but hardly in the HQ.
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>>79151772
First of all, the majority of Vodafone's employees - even the ones living in the UK - are not British nationals.

Secondly, we don't give a fuck. This was a vote against big business. We're more than ready to take a financial hit if it means we can preserve our sovereignty and cultural identity from those who would sacrifice everything on the altar of capitalism.

>>79154823
Plenty and I'm certain will see plenty more in the aftermath of Brexit.

>>79155395
You're thinking short term.

I know it might be difficult to believe, especially as a German, but it is possible to not only survive but thrive outside the EU.

The EU is a failed state. Just like the Soviet Union before it. Both were born of noble ideals but both became corrupted and lost sight of those ideals when the power hungry took over.
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>>79156262
>>The EU increases the personal freedom.
>By crippling national governments, taking away the ability for the individual to elect leaders who then enact the law they want.

I did go vote for the EU parliament, didn't you? Anyway, England will soon have elected who won't have any power at all. They will always have to say yes and amen to every rule China, the EU and the US is sending there way.

>Tell that to people in Greece, paying 24% VAT against their will. Tell that to the countries being flooded with migrants, being threatened by the EU with funding cuts if they build a fucking fence.
Sigh, if you borrow money and you can't pay back you have to raise the money somehow or you will never get any at all. They did not have to raise the VAT to 24%, they could have raised the money in another way. But I guess all the other options would were even less attractive.
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>>79156426
m8, they're not talking about pulling out of the Uk market and selling their networks. They're talking about moving their HQ and registering somewhere in yurop (main market) to get EU advantages.
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>>79153582
>the lost jobs go into related industries,

Lol, lost jobs do not 'go into' related industries. One company cutting jobs doesn't mean another hires. It's the opposite, unemployment means fewer customers so they cut back as well.
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>>79157113
The EU just said, that TTIP is failing. The US wants the EU cut back on their standarts. Not going to happen. Energy dependence is a topic, we are working on that. The Russians still depend on Euros. Putin and the Kremlin are getting paranoid, fearing a Maidan on red square. They need money. They are not making big deals with China as there are many Russian who fear to lose control over Siberia.
In the long run, renewable and maybe nuclear is the way to go.
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>>79145352
>We need small and medium size business back in this country.

Small businesses are less productive and do not create jobs. Going back to an 'Arkwright' economy would mean a huge drop in living standards.
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>>79158326
In Sweden small to midsized businesses are the biggest employers.
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>>79158326
Living standards are already shit for most people.

Wages are stagnating. The cost of living rises each year. Rent is through the roof and you have to be earning well over the national average to ever hope to get a mortgage.

All the while the wealthy are benefitting from the cheap labour of migrants and we're told to shut the fuck up or be labelled "racist bigots".

I honestly don't care if it gets worse for a time. Something has to change.
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>>79158424
same in finland

really makes you think....
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>>79158559
Yes that is the problem. But it's eu fault. Leaving just makes the problem worst. Without high skill people joining the country your low skill jobs will have less to work and they will either reduce the salaries or fire peoples, while the request for lawyers(that do not produce wealth ) will skyrocket. The lower strata of the population is the one that will suffer, not the rich one
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>>79158847
It's not eu fault *
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>>79158424
>In Sweden small to midsized businesses are the biggest employers.

Small companies are not /creators/ of jobs. It's large and growing businesses that create the most jobs, and big companies are the most productive which is where living standards come from.

>>79158559
>Living standards are already shit for most people.

No, they're incredibly high, it's just that most people don't realise it. They're only going to go down as companies leave or lay off staff, as the pound plummets, as the educated and productive GTFO.

>I honestly don't care if it gets worse for a time. Something has to change.

It might not be for a time, it might be permanent. England might end up like Poland or Russia. But at least we'll have sovereignty. So independent as the EU, China and US tell us how it is.
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Good riddance

Worst customer service in the UK, over priced shitty network
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>>79158992
>No, they're incredibly high
Maybe they are for you.

As a single guy living in London and earning 30k/year whilst living in a tiny studio flat with no car and barely any savings I beg to differ.

>It might not be for a time, it might be permanent. England might end up like Poland or Russia. But at least we'll have sovereignty. So independent as the EU, China and US tell us how it is.

You're free to move you know. Why not apply for EU citizenship instead of moaning about this country?
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>>79159311
>You're free to move you know.

Not anymore, and that's the tragic part. Our economy will be fucked and we can't escape it.
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>>79159743

Complete hyperbole.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3665436/Brexit-Brexit-FTSE-100-opens-1-6-approaches-pre-EU-vote-high-pound-rises-again.html

We're still in the EU and will be for at least the next couple of years so now's your chance to claim EU citizenship if it's so shit over here.
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>>79148092
>No man that ever feelt hunger the pain from it would choose that again.
aren't you fasting right now during ramadan, mohamad?
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>>79160009
>dailymail

The FTSE100 is full of global companies anyway.

You can't 'claim' EU citizenship. When the UK leaves we lose our EU citizenship and are stuck on this dying island.
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Fuck em.

The only reason they want free movement is because more people = more customers to sell their shitty contracts too. I bet they'd love to give every migrant a shiny new Vodafone iphone.

Traitorous shekelniggers- the lot of them. I hope they leave.
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>>79160183
Absolute nonsense.

If you're skilled (which I'm assuming you are since you keep going on about the "educated" and "productive") you can easily find work in the EU and beyond. You can go and work in China or Canada for all I care.

So you're not stuck on this island.

The source may be the dailymail but the figures don't lie. Check the markets yourself. The FTSE is back up and the pound is stabilising. None of your absurd doomsday prophecies are coming true.
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>>79159311
LONDON
O
N
D
O
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whereabouts bro?
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>>79144980
>worthless cellular scum moves
Oh no, you really got us
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>>79160619
Camden m8.

You?
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i stopped using vodafone a long time ago
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>>79144980
What kind of employees are we talking about? The ones I can't understand when I ring up customer services?
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>>79160912
/comfy/ wandsworth
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who?
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>>79159743
Leave now, what are you waiting for? You are not wanted here.
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>>79155560
>goes to the brink over a tiny country like Greece
>thinks it's going to survive having to bail out larger countries like Italy

O I am laffin
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I'm gonna make a list of all the (((companies))) that all leaving because of Brexit. They're traitorous globalists that will by hanged in the day of the rope.

>Vodafone
>Morgan Stanley
Who else?
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