I'm getting mixed messages from Poland. Are they cucked or not?
On the plus side, they're:
-Religious
-Traditional
-Anti-Immigrant
But on the negative side, they're:
-Pro-EU
-Pro-NATO
-Support Turkey in the EU
>>79135420
You are dumb, that's why you're getting mixed messages. Stop looking at everything from West's perspective. Something can be good for you, doesn't mean it's good for us and likewise.
>Religious
Not necessarily a good thing. We shit on Christianity a lot, we're just not gonna pretend it's oppressive or even remotely similar to militant islam.
>Traditional
That's not necessarily the best thing for a developing country. It only appears to you as a plus due to overwhelming degeneracy in the West.
>Anti-Immigrant
We took over million Ukrainian refugees. You'd know that if you did a quick google search, but I guess that's too much for you. We simply refuse to bend over to Merkel's wishes of getting flooded by savages that refuse to assimilate.
>Pro-EU
And why the fuck wouldn't we be? We're milking them for all it's worth, this cancerous union will collapse before they actually make us pay back.
>Pro-NATO
There is literally no reason for us not to be a part of NATO and no, angering Russia doesn't count as good reason.
>Support Turkey in the EU
Who does? The pro-Merkel party that lost election for lying all the time? And even if they really were to join it, the only thing it would probably change for us is expansion of potential market due to the whole free-trade EU treaties. No sane Turk would move to Poland anyway since the West pays them more and is filled with mosques.
>>79135420
>>79136597
Dude, don't expect people make real research instead of just repeating memes from /pol/
>>79136597
So cucked it is.
>>79136597
basically this
I'm as pro EU as I can be. Unfortunately the Anglo woke up and probably put an end to the gravy train we are riding.
>>79136882
No one asked you, nigger.
>>79136597
Well, whatever you do Poland, don't accept shitskins. Arab, African or otherwise.
>>79137148
So you guys are basically leeches, then?
>>79137237
I wager the white nigger meme had more a grain of truth to leafbro.
>>79137237
>>79137465
*it
>>79135420
Pro-eu and NATO is only a result of knowing russia. We life with them many years and know how subhuman and degenerate they are. They are like parasites, they must suck other nations to survive or they will destory themselfs. Even Turkey is better. Why ALL nations which have borders with russia hate them?
>>79137663
>They are like parasites, they must suck other nations to survive
sounds kinda familar, I wonder why :^)
>>79135420
Based
>>79137179
You are failing very bad at shitposting, leaf.
>>79136597
>We took over millions of Ukrainians
You mean the Poles that were brainwashed by Austrians into thinking they aren't poles? Oh woah is me I'm being invaded by my own people that made a bad decision centuries ago!
Dumbassses. You got it all backwards, the members that benefit MOST from union are supposed to try and leave, not the other way around.
>>79137237
No, thieves.
I don't know why Polish politicians want Turkey in the EU. But it is obvious based on their history with Russia why they are pro-NATO.
Poland is a parasite.
pro-EU means something very different in eastern europe than in western europe
>>79137992
They had national consciousness long before Austria controlled Galicia or as a matter of fact, long before you did. You'd know that if you've read a single fucking book on history of Ruthenia or Commonwealth.
>>79137663
>They are like parasites, they must suck other nations to survive
Between the EU and NATO, that's literally Poland.
Russia isn't the one sucking welfare off richer nations.
stop being mean to polan
>>79135420
>-Pro-EU
>-Pro-NATO
Can't really blame them. They're economically and militarily pathetic without those two things
>>79137237
You could say that, yes. Well, consider it a price for our independence.
>>79139784
Militarily, definitely, but we were far from Ukraine-tier before we've joined.
>>79139457
that's not my point faggot, my point is that you have it good compared to other countries.
>>79139920
>he thinks ukrainian bydlos are any better than shitskins
>>79139920
You first replied to me as if I was bitching about being invaded by refugees, I wasn't. I was simply pointing out that OP is full of shit because we did, in fact, accept refugees. Just from a different place than Africa and Middle East.
I know we have it better than the west. We accepted them PRECISELY because they're Christian Slavs with culture similar to ours and unlike shitskins, they're easy to assimilate. Our politicians were making public statements about that a while ago.
Polish people have historically been leeches.
>>79135420
>Pro EU
We haven't had many bad things happen to us because of EU. Rapefugees don't want us since there are no gibs, Merkel can't force shit on us because based Hungary
>Pro NATO
Because we'd get attacked by Vladimir the second we don't have half the world obliged to go to war for us
>Pro Turkey in EU
Again, they wouldn't go to Poland. Not our problem. They also cucked Merkel and the entirety of Western Europe so you have to admit that's impressive. If they join, Merkel will get cucked more while we will build a wall.
Who's going to stop us? They can't fine us since v4 and based Hungary will vote against it and build walls themselves
>>79140458
;^)
>>79140458
which is why we saved your ass during ww2
uncalled for
>>79140341
Accepting refugees from eastern europe isn't within the spectrum of cuck that A Fucking Leaf was talking about. Remember that Ukraine has been mostly ignored this entire time, with the aura of leftist cuckoldry focusing exclusively on the economic migrants of Africa. No one would call you a cuck for letting in your equivalent to southern US trash.
>>79140070
>Damn Slavs, they ruined slavs
>>79140516
>while we will build a wall.
Is Germany going to pay for that?
>>79140516
Yeah, of course Poland is pro all those things.
Poland is one of the only countries in Europe who is fully upholding its NATO obligations, which is nice. Honest people that uphold their end of bargains IMO. Unlike some others...
>>79140458
Before brexit
>Yeah based Poland xD
>Fuck Western Europe but the Eastern countries are ok
After brexit
>ANYONE WHO IS NOT BRITISH IS SCUM
you know you're still not going anywhere right?
>>79140629
Also this
When we didn't have a country, we went around the world fighting your wars to protect your sovereignty hoping that one day you would repay the favour.
When you will lose your country to Muhammad, you'll come crawling back and we won't be able to help you because closed borders and shit
>>79140994
They already have.
>>79141078
Yeah so you're going to uphold your end of the deal when Vladimir inevitably invades us right?
R-right?
>>79140458
Yup just as british been traitors an cowords that Polish peoples died in battle for england cuz they were shit soliders.
>>79141081
>Yeah based Poland xD
I never once thought that, I've always hated the Polish for being leeches by begging for benefits from as many countries as possible. You've just always historically always been a nuisance to Europe.
Poland is the exact opposite of cucked. They don't tolerate anyone other than white or Polish, they hate Islam, they elected a nationalist government, and the EU literally pays them to build up the country.
>>79136597
>Religion and tradition aren't necessarily good things
Nigger, that's where national identity comes from. Without either, you become Sweden.
>>79140949
Fair enough.
>>79141895
Our universities and whatnot have plenty of non-white foreigners and there's nothing wrong with that, it's relatively healthy aspect of immigration policy. They come here legally and abide by our rules and unlike the West, we wouldn't let them enforce theirs. They're people who actually want to work/study. If they wanted to leech, they'd go to the West.
>>79139784
Don't know about that, leaf-boy. We've got more active military personnel than you and a lot more experience.
>>79137237
>So you guys are basically leeches, then?
Yes. Slavs yet again proving they are the niggers of the white race.
>>79141895
Poland is grabbing all the euro dollars, dumping it into infrastructure and tech, and pointing American missiles at Putin.
Based country.
>>79140458
>Polish people have historically been leeches.
And criminals.
>>79139784
>canada
>calling anyone militarily pathetic
>>79137237
Why wouldn't you want to leech money from this monstrosity? I feel no remorse leeching off people who constantly advocate white genocide.
>>79142823
smart
>>79137148
Literally leeches.
If you take the shekels then you gotta take the shitskins. You have many cuties j00s wanna get blacked. Being so anti diversity when your own immigrants are on par with the shitskins, absolutely haram.
>>79142965
>9 years
Fuck you Poland
>>79135420
>Pro-EU
/pol/ doesn't want to hear it, but the EU is a white Christian, free trade, neoliberal institution... it is based as hell. It has a shitload of fringe extremists in parliament, who have no platform in their states.
>>79143313
It's a Jewish institution that promotes free trade to destroy national economies.
>>79143443
>It's a Jewish institution that promotes free trade to destroy national economies.
BS, it is a based institution which wants to make Europe great again.
/pol/ was deceived by Js who want the EU to be weak so they can control Germany
can I come to visit polen if I'm spanish-looking?
>>79141624
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11255425/How-much-do-immigrants-really-claim-in-benefits.html
Educate yourself faggot.
>>79136597
Basically more cucked than sweden by the looks of it tbhfam
>>79143226
Ära unusta et me saame ka juudaseekleid kuni 2021. aastani.
>>79138929
It's a smart move from the government. Reject EU demands where it matter ( refugees ) and play along to receive literally billions of chicken tendies, Poland knows the eu are cucks and won't risk further destabilization/loss of power for some cash. It's a smart move.
Why the fuck are Poles so afraid of Russia invading?
>>79145234
Soviet power ideal never died out, they survived with Putin. That was amply demonstrated by the situation in Ukraine.
>>79135420
>-Anti-Immigrant
In Europe they are the immigrants.
> -Pro-NATO
Nothing wrong with that. What do you want them to support, the Taliban ?
>>79135420
if Canada was repeatedly invaded from east and west for centuries, you'd be pro NATO and pro EU too to keep your idiot neighbors in check
>>79139560
Rekt
Poles are so based.
Anyone who'd imply that Polacks are in fact low IQ dindus who contribute absolutely nothing of worth to this continent, aside from petty crime and welfare leaching is clearly a lying a faggot.
>>79145234
Well I dunno, Russia is so peacefull, they actually never attacked anyone and never installed communism anywhere :^)
Honestly I dunno, Russia is a shithole and will not risk getting destroyed by attacking everyone.
Paranoid as always.
>>79142823
We cosider those monies partial reparations for Polish genocide by Germans, and for west abandoning us to the mercy of soviets.
>>79141307
If Merkel and the rest of the freeloaders don't force us to leave NATO first.
>>79143313
Sorry guys, Polan literally does not exist.
It is a militarized meme.
Polan ist krieg!
>>79143313
The vast majority of users on /pol/ are losers who have been constantly butthurt because of SJWs through the years and now they're just supporting Putin's agenda for the sake of tasting "liberal tears".
They've been conditioned into believing that breaking apart the EU, NATO, alliances between western countries and creating huge divisiveness within their countries as something honorable, venerable, the right thing to do.
This is the simple trajectory of a typical /pol/ user:
1. /b/ or /v/ posting stupid and unfunny shit no one cares about
2. /r9k/ when they realize no one likes them and they have no gf, they blame women
3. /pol/ when they start reading too many articles from RT and infowars
It's basically collective suicide from groups of people that are incapable of adapting to a new environment. In the future, we will brand these traitors appropriately
>>79148335
t. Folksdojcz
>>79149208
t. gimbaza fag
>>79148888
>come for /fit
>come on /pol to troll nazi's
><INSERT RED PILL IN ANUS>
I'm looking forward to the war so I can kill nu-males and have a harem of sluts.
>>79140458
You motherfucker. We've bled for you country in ww2 even though you backstabbed us in '39 by refusing to honor our military agreements (which by the way would've prevented the entire fucking war). We've helped defend your shitty island during the battle of Britain. During the Italian campaign, we did the job that your soldiers couldn't. Our soldiers helped the Russians take Berlin while your soldiers were sitting on their asses.
What was your response? Even more backstabbing and betrayal, which robbed our country of its future and made us suffer Russian occupation for almost 50 years. And when we finally manage to dig ourselves out from under the corpse of the Soviet Union as the first country to stage a successful revolt and send you a few guys your way to work in a healthy economy that didn't have to suffer through all this bullshit... when we attempt to fuel our recovery through honest work, you have the fucking audacity to call us leeches because the honest, hard-working people that visited your country were accompanied by a few leeches.
Fuck you, we're just recovering a fraction of what we've lost because you fucked us over. And don't even get me started on Brit tourists acting like straight-up animals when they visit our country, you insufferable cunt.
>>79148888
>confirmed
However, you didn't consider all eventualities. What about crossposter from reddit and other places?
>>79135420
Lamenting niggers IMO
>>79149338
> /fit/ and /fa/
> not just /r9k/ idiots trying to improve their lives and failing
keep eating that oatmeal fatmode faggot
>>79148888
You paint a very negative view of the typical 4chan user. My trajectory:
1. /b/ for fapping to basically anything and everything (including but not limited to CP). Also took part in some raids back in the day.
2. /fit/ for motivation when I decided to get my shit together.
3. /pol/ in my quest to depolarize myself, being what you would call a commie, in order to try and fully understand the ideologies I've shitted on all my life without understanding them.
4chins has taught me there's intelligent people (even if they're jackasses most of the time) hiding in the herd. I've also come to respect right-wing ideas for what they are instead of dismissing them just because they came out of a person whose team colors were not my own.
>>79143313
>white Christian
it's anti-Christian because its rules were written by the Left
>>79147610
people are distributed along the bell curve, some bad, some saints, most are just average.
>>79135420
>-Pro-EU
Poles like the EU because they can move to more economically viable countries like the UK.
Also they get massive amounts of funding from the EU.
>>79137237
Some want to leech, some suck up to Merkel, some want to reform it. The usual.
>>79149517
Good fucking goyim, playing deadbeat slave nigger to some stuckup backwards islanders.
>>79150791
It was a mistake our country hopefully won't make again.
>>79147672
Oy vey another shoa
>>79149517
So much this
>>79136597
I'll bite, how is letting muds invade Poland good?
>>79151742
Because Russia won't want them anymore?
>>79135420
>Pro-EU
I don't think anybody is really pro-EU in it's current form. But being a part of it has really helped Poland economically and we can't be blind to that.
>Pro-NATO
You probably would be if your country had literally been invaded by Russia in the past.
I'm sure people would prefer some better alternatives to these things, but there has to BE a better alternative.
>>79135420
Eretz Israel in future
There is theory that current Poland and Ukraine territory will be transformed in new home for Israelis if there will be big war in the Middle East, that threatens the very existence of Israel state.
And current Minister of Foreign Affairs in Poland, Witold Waszczykowski, said that defence anti-missile shield in Poland will be used for protection from the Middle East threat.
There was also many anti refugese protests in Poland. It was very odd becouse many organizations united in this protest. And Poles don't often go to streets to protest. For me it looks like that Israel don't want islamic freugees in Poland and Ukraine.
Does this theory about NeoIsrael is credible? Is there fight between Israel and USA about Poland? Is there fight between Israel and USA about Ukraine? Why USA and Israel don't like eache other? It looks like PO government with Ewa Kopacz was lead by Mossad. And PiS goverment is more likely lead by CIA. But in some areas PO and PiS they simply cooperate in law implementation of NWO.
_http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/zarif-visits-poland-as-warsaw-tehran-build-business-ties/
_http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-1.577583
_http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/business/with-sanctions-gone-iran-kicks-off-eu-trade-drive-in-poland_41107
_http://pulaski.pl/en/irans-opening-to-the-world-possible-consequences/
>>79135420
>Poland is one person
>>79140070
They are.
I dunno what is happening south, but those that reach north are well adjusted, polite , working and willing to learn polish to at least communicative level
We got cucked by our new christcommie government.
>>79135420
>-Support Turkey in the EU
>-Anti-Immigrant
that's complete bullshit
>>79152760
Admit it, you're spazo poland.
>>79138496
>thieves
Comes from a germ, that's rich.
Give back everything that you have stolen during WWII.
>>79153403
>Give back everything that you have stolen during WWII.
That's rich, half of poland is land stolen from Germany.
>>79153499
Please point out that land then.
>>79153499
Stolen by the Russians, because the Brits and the Americans wanted to please Stalin. Everything that happened between '45 and '89 is pretty much not our fault, we were just a territory of the USSR.
>>79136597
>we took over a million Ukrainian refugees
And this is bad how? Compared to the "refugees" they want you to take
>>79143658
No, they beat hispanics because they look arab
>>79143065
I have never in my life seen someone post from Estonia.
I kinda assumed it was a country of Ghosts and Ghouls inhabiting beautiful ancient cities.
Well shit, congratulations on becoming corporeal?
>>79153870
We have a socialist economy (thanks EU!) and they're bad for the unemployment/wages problem. If the EU stops acting like a bunch of commies and/or dissolves, they're going to turn into an amazing asset.
Poles are not pro EU only the cucks who move to uk and Germany are and Poland sure as hell dose not support turkey In. The EU
>>79153549
https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/media_nm.php?MediaId=1620
>>79137088
c u c k l e a f in denial
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>>79138182
Ah, a sucker who bought into red/blue state nonsense. Those on welfare in "red states" are spics and niggers who vote blue. Guess what happens if they leave, no more fed gibmedats, spics and niggers make a run for the border to surrounding blue states to stay on the gravy train, red states just freed themselves of a bunch of leeches.
I like how everything that's bad in your country insta gets blamed on EU, not on home politicians who've put you in that position. They are the ones milking and robbing your countries not EU, but it's easier to blame EU an outsider than do a serious work of fixing your own country. For all of you anti EUers. Name me one country in the world who does the same amount of protecting an everyday citizen than EU does?
I am just amazed how little people actually know about EU and would know if they just took half an hour and read and watch through shit that is easily available on Internet.
>>79154463
Are you fucking serious? The lands that Germany lost after World War 1 were ethnically Polish.
By the same logic the Japanese stole Japan from the United States, because you were occupying their island after World War 2 for a while.
>>79135420
>polish
>cucked
Where the fuck you got those information?
Disinformation.general.EU?
SPIERDALAI you fucking baiter
>>79135420
No, dude. Poland is based as fuck.
Look up based Korwin-Mikke and enjoy his god-tier bantz. Poland is basically the coolest country in the EU. They are out-Jewing the Jew.
>>79154949
>were ethnically Polish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Prussia
"Germany (after it had been defeated in 1918) handed over West Prussia's mainly German populated central parts"
Tell us another fib.
Poland can't into space
but honestly polish females are very beautiful
>>79154122
Estonia flags always pop up here, we even have weekly eesti threads.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/country/ee
>>79155800
Must be the timing difference then, my sleep cycle was fucked due to someone deciding to visit at 2a.m.
Beautiful country, Estonia.
>>79155525
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Prussia
You do realize that it belonged to Poland before the first partition, right? This land swapped hands a few times, but if you argue that it belonged to Germany in 1919 because it had been resettled by the Germans, then you simply have to accept that it belongs to Poland right now because it's been resettled by the Poles or you'd be applying double standards.
The truth of the matter is that the borders in Europe are kind of fucked due Russia and Germany fucking a lot of shit up back in the day. It's better to let it go than to get all butthurt and revisionist on the entire Central Europe.
>>79156082
Come on now, revisionism was on your part claiming land given up was ethnically polish when it was ethnically German.
>>79156248
It was ethnically Polish, then it became ethnically German after Poland disappeared of the map, then it became ethnically Polish again.
Poland didn't expand its borders via conquest, unlike Germany. We had our union and we were kind of happy with sitting on our clay, trading with people and wrecking the Turks that kind of threatened the entire fucking Europe from time to time.
I mean I'm not even saying that we deserved to get those lands, but the fact that it started off as Polish clay kind of allowed the Soviets to hand it to us to silence the people that were infuriated with them robbing us of our eastern provinces.
The tl;dr is Stalin was an asshole.
>>79154463
>>79155525
>>79156248
Oh fuck off you uneducated idiot. >>79156481
>>79156423
>>79156513
>>79135420
We're pro-EU in the sense we're trying to wrestle control of the EU from Germans and transform it into something sane.
There's literally no reason for some sort of union to exist between European nations.
>>79156602
Intermarium when?
>>79156915
>>79157688
No but I have been trolling you:)
>>79152327
Your theory completely does not add up.
>>79158096
Feels good, there's one less of "you" in this world.
>>79136597
>We're milking them for all it's worth, this cancerous union will collapse before they actually make us pay back
this
>>79155525
Your own source is contradicting you.
Germans were a minority in lands that made new Polish state and many of them were squatters sent there to tip the ethnic composition to German favor - methods similar to those used by kikes in Palestinian territories.
