I genuinely cannot comprehend how fucking stupid most of you are with your politics. Are you really so fucking pathetic that the only thing you can be proud of is your "nation" (an accident of birth which is a construct anyway) or your "race" which is another accident of birth (as well as a social construct- yes it is.)
Can you please explain to me honestly what it is that makes nationalism rational or desirable in your minds? From a leftist perspective, I frankly find it embarrassing that in the modern era people still put faith in such regressive thinking.
Moreover, can you not actually see how your twin motivators of nationalism and racism are both nothing more than poison that turns the working classes against each other? Why do you not turn your hate on the real enemy?
Please explain.
>>79038403
Power and Profit
you know what else are social constructs?
democracy, feminism, equality, etc.
See how fucking stupid you sound?
Nobody here is proud of their nation or race btw. We just hate fucking jews and niggers
also, this is a troll thread
oh well
>>79038403
>>79038521
That is to say, most of /pol/ are ideological slaves being controlled by those who seek Power and Profit, unable to think critically, do self determined learning, or do anything other than repeat memes.
I suspect most of 4chan is just chatbots on a mission to keep us distracted - distracted from enacting real world change in ourselves and in our communities - by having us waste our lives arguing on the internet.
>mfw realise am slave
>>79038768
>Nobody here is proud of their nation or race btw.
so wrong
>>79038403
so we cannot blame Germans for ww2?
You are right, which is why you should join us on the right. Because we're both right (doho).
But in all seriousness, leftists today truly hate the working class. It is most evident when comfortable privileged lefties talk about dumb ignorant hicks, rednecks and chav whites. Their hatred of the lower class glows through their egalitarian mask.
The fact of the matter is that leftists today consider the working class as cattle, and simply prefer their cattle to be deracinated and without an identity. It is easier to own and bully them that way.
You may be saying that my argument is bullshit, and if that is the case, then look at the evidence: Big businesses and oligarchs WANT globalism and internationalism and hate nationalism because it benefits them and not you. It is the poor who understand that they are being shafted and moving to more volkisch and earthy proletarian movements like thirdpositionism and national socialism.
You are on the right road, my friend, but going in the wrong direction. Turn around, lets hold hands, and let's fight against globalist internationalist federalist scum.
>>79038403
>1 post by this ID
>>79038403
It is not pride, it is respect and duty. Respect to the plight of those who came before us, and the duty to preserve that which that fought and worked hard for. That is all.
You need some nationalism or else you end up like us...
>>79038403
1. Nationalism is reserved for those proud of their forefather's legacy and a driving need to uphold such and reach even greater heights to awe those than come after. It's a drive to seek betterment, instead of lefty entitlement and "equality."
2. The leftist perspective is the globalist 1% rich asshole perspective.
3. There is no such thing as a global working class. A cold and stern protestant northman's hands turn dirt into pure gold while a lazy nigger can only boast about turning a banana into shit.
Fuck you and the holier-than-thou horse you rode in on. GB2/reddit/ and kill yourself.
The place you were born is by no means chance, you completely ignoring your genetic heritage. There are no other parents who could've given birth to you other than your own. They're British, and thus you're born in Britain, your land surrounding your people. Repeat all they way until Adam and Eve.
Furthermore, nationalism is what gave us the idea that the country belongs to the people, and thus the government should work for the people. Its not owned by a king or (((globalists))), its owned by the people.
>>79038403
Why should I explain myself to you when you've made no effort to explain yourself to me. You just go "me me me I don't like things" and have some how come to the conclusion that you're right. Please suicide.
>>79038403
The wall just got higher, and i just donated to Trump...AGAIN
>>79038403
My birth was not an accident in any way, you fedora tipping faggot
>hurr durr being proud of one's nationality and people is the same as being proud of someone else's accomplishments
I know this is bait, but for the sake of everyone else in whom the post might've inflamed a sense of doubt about taking pride in their nationality and people, I'll go on to say this:
Pride in one's own nationality is equal parts gratitude and responsibility. Taking credit for someone else's accomplishments, with which you had nothing to do with is, of course, dumb. No, national pride is like being proud of your father or mother; you might've had nothing to do with their accomplishments, but you can rest assured that the same piece of greatness they exemplified is within you, and it is your duty as their son/daughter to live up to that greatness, or even surpass it. The same can be said for your home town, sports team, and even country.
It is a purely healthy, natural thing.
>>79038403
Centralization and hegemony is the death of diversity and creativity. Nationalism is the most effective method of social, cultural, and political organization. It is the fallback every time an empire fails, and shelters new ideas and identities from being overrun by prevailing foreign ideologies.
>>79038768
>nobody here is proud of their nation\
Nope
>>79038403
its not about loving a country just for the sake of it, it's about loving the environment you grew up in. you had a great life, and you want that to continue for those who come after you. if you're not willing to defend your environment, the people in it, and their culture, then your way of life will perish. most countries on earth are total shitholes, so if you live in a great country it's your duty to protect it to make sure earth doesn't become one giant middle east or africa.
if you fail to see the benefits of personal sovereignty, then you are indeed a twat. you're advocating orwellian globalist society in which you have absolutely no control.
GAY PRIDE
TRANS PRIDE
Cuz they were born that way mmkay?
>>79038403
You raise some good points. Did you come up with this when you were being fucked up the arse with a claw hammer?
You gutless fucking scumbags are so fucking self righteous; seriously how the fuck can you see where you are going when your head is up your arse?
No nationalism = Sweden today. A nigger jihadist infestation.
Fucking piece of shit.
>>79038403
People like to be with their own kind.
This argument supposes a lot of things
>social constructs are unimportant
>traits by virtue of birth are unimportant
>the working class should be homogenous despite race/societies
>the enemies of the poor are the rich
>the OP isn't a tremendous retarded cuckolded commie kike faggot
>>79038403
Surely this has to be a bait thread but anyway... Ex-globalist here; it's not about being proud of the nation in and of itself, but being proud of the achievements of the people that constitute the nation, your people, and the collective goals and milestones you achieve together across the centuries.
>>79038403
>Culture
>Globalism
Pick one
While the concept of nationalism sounds stupid to some people, it's one of the most effective ways to reach unity and prosperity
Google: EthnicNepotism
>>79038403
>leftist perspective
Looking in a gunbarrel?
>>79038403
>i genuinely cannot comprehend
then shut the fuck up cunt
Nationalism ensures that people of like minded values stay together and derive the most benefit from their chosen forms of culture, government and economy.
>>79040398
But these are not YOUR achievements. More to the point, they are not YOUR people. Contrary to your pseudo-science humanity is one race, the human race, meaning a black African has just as much right to take pride in a white person's achievements as you do.
The fact is that even if we accept your "people's" collective achievements they are still not yours personally and you have no right to take pride in them, and you most certainly have no right to use them to denigrate those who you feel are inferior.
>Chomsky
>Knowing anything
>least of all linguistics
he ruined linguistics and set it back about 60 years. Neuroscientists are finally undoing all the retarded shit he forced onto the field and solving all of the intractable problems he set out in the 50s and made zero progress with. Chomsky (because of the inner jew) claimed all language was like some computer program and you just needed to fit all the pieces together. Today it's well accepted language is more like a hilly topography with peaks and valleys of connections and we learn in a very probabilistic and haphazard way.
When he finally dies we can put all of his shitty ideas to bed and completely crack human and near-human AI.
To give you another explanation, Chomsky thought language was a mutation and did not evolve, he literally said God did it because he couldn't find a linear explanation for language capacity. He is a theorist of computer languages and pushed that field in the wrong direction, setting back AI at least AT LEAST for 50 years. Without Chomsky we go with the behaviorists and skinner, and we make curiosity driven computers which learn based on what the user teaches them, instead of the monolithic monstrosities we have today with operating systems and deterministic software.
Decades and decades of going in the wrong direction.
I would argue Chomsky is one of the main reasons we don't have robotics today. Because the software of robotics has to be neural and human like, not programmed and procedural. Could you imagine programming every activity a robot can do by hand? This was literally what they thought a human was back then.
So fuck Chomsky, fuck his politics, but especially fuck this meme that he's a linguist and should stick to linguistics. Linguistics left Chomsky behind a long time ago, he was a hindrance, and only set the human race back with a WRONG idea.
>>79038403
Nationalism ensures good organisation of the state due to the fact that you preserve democratic nations. You get to avoid over centralisation of power and ensure that political legitimacy is always represented through the demos. When you lose sight of your nation and the political legitimacy that comes with it you begin to submit and throw your rights away as if there is no democratic legitimacy in the nation then there is no reason as to why other countries can't govern you. You need nationalism in order to prevent colonialism from occurring.
>>79038403
I am awed by the accomplishments of my ancestors and am inspired to do my best live up to their standard and achievements in my life.
>>79038403
>Can you please explain to me honestly what it is that makes nationalism rational or desirable in your minds?
What is a nation? A nation is land and people. People of nations tend to have -to varying degrees- shared history, language and culture. Shared values if you will. These values are like a glue that hold the people together. Even if you disagree with me on Brexit, chances are we so share some values, probably more than are shared with people of other nations. This degree of concensus allows the government to function about as good as a non-totalitarian government can.
Now the leftist perspective, was it not Lenin whi said communism must be built a nation at a time? Kinda like getting your house in order.
Nationalism and cooperation are not mutually exclusive. Ideally, a nationalist government (which we don't have btw) will always think of its citizens, not corporations first and foremost.
Now tell me. What's so toxic about this?
>>79038403
I just think the American nation's first priority should be the American nation.
Anyyhing other than that is pants-on-the-head, spaghetti-spilling-from-pockets, sauce-in-the-ears retarded.
>1 post by this ID
>>79038403
>From a leftist perspective, I frankly find it embarrassing that in the modern era people still put faith in such regressive thinking.
In case you haven't noticed yet... The Left is wrong about absolutely everything. There is not one example that you can give where the Left is correct about an issue.
So as far a nationalism is concerned; its the way to go.
>>79039196
>3. There is no such thing as a global working class. A cold and stern protestant northman's hands turn dirt into pure gold while a lazy nigger can only boast about turning a banana into shit.
beautiful.
>2. The leftist perspective is the globalist 1% rich asshole perspective.
So true. That bastion of leftism teh Guardain has for the past three days had every comments section overflowing with comments that essentially amount to saying 'dumb plebs shouldn't have had a vote and should have listened to their betters'. The mask the leftists wear has really slipped since Brexit.
>>79039196
There is no such thing as global working class.
/thread.
>>79040658
>Contrary to your pseudo-science humanity is one race
WORLD RANKING OF COUNTRIES BY THEIR IQ AVERAGE
https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country
100 Facts about Whites and Blacks
http://www.mediafire.com/view/g0n42xxwhhh6qd8/100_facts.pdf
Race can be determined via brain scans.
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5
Human intelligence up to 75% inheritable
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html
Human intelligence is highly heritable.
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html
Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305
Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf
Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001
The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741
>>79038403
So I can't be proud of my heritage but I have to be ashamed of it?
Doesn't work that way, kike.
>>79038403
why r u so mad LUL go travel to iran and tell them they shouldn't be nationalist and see how that goes LUL
>>79040658
>>79040948
The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
Intelligence has at least a 40-50% genetic basis.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809
IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
Racial bias against miscegenation is likely biological in origin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19422626
Over 2000 genes have been subject to recent (post out-of-africa) evolution.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/science/20adapt.html
1% of Sweden's population is responsible for 63% of their crime.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/
Homicide rates would be 5x higher today if not for medical advancements.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1124155/
Assimilation into a host culture improves well-being.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24364853
Traditional societies have 'very low' rates of suicide.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3067529
Human evolution is unceasing and continues to this day.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/science/20adapt.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Blue or grey eyed individuals are smarter and better coordinated.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-476244/Why-blue-eyed-boys-girls-brilliant.html
92% of biracial children with black fathers out of wedlock, 82% on welfare.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2625893
Mixed race children are more likely to have health problems, high stress, smoke, and drink.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
>>79038403
Didnt you meme Lords have to create a whole new class of people because you couldn't accept that there is a growing right wing?
>>79038403
Anons, remember to sage when replying.
>>79038403
My nation is not an accident of my birth you fucking retard. I am who I am because of my parents and their parents vefore them
If you really believe what you say go tell your parents you aren't grateful for anything they have done cause it only chance for why you have them as your parents.
You are retarded. I bet your parents are retarded too. See how it works. The only reason you are retarded is cause your parents are retarded.
now, are you proud of being a retard?
>>79040728
It is toxic because it builds barriers between people and also because it is the most effective means of the ruling class to turn workers against each other when the white working class should be turning on the parasitic scum above them (who are mainly white) rather than people whose skin happens to be a different shade.
>>79040658
Yes they are? I take part in these achievements every day when I go to work, pay taxes, volunteer time, help a neighbour, etc. We all work together every day to continue to build this nation, nations are not static, they are emergent processes, ever growing and developing because of the people of that nation. I never mentioned race? Nor did I mention anything about denigrating others? I love other nations, and have been to many, and I congratulate those peoples on their successes like I congratulate mine. Although only they can take pride in the achievements of their people, like only I can take pride in the achievements of mine, the Australians.
>>79040658
so what do you even care about dude?
>inb4 maxed out on autism spectrum
>>79040948
>>79041031
Nicely done. This "race is a social construct" meme needs to stop. Why is it that, according to progressives, subspecies exist for every other mammal on the planet, except for humans?
>>79038403
We highly respect the work and determination that has been put into the land where we live. We don't dismiss the work of our forefathers. Saying nationalism is bad is insulting the people who founded your country.
Language,heritage,and diverse/"rich" cultural identity are the very things that make up a nation. Without one the other doesn't exist.
>>79038919
No we aren't. Did you hear about the gorilla that got shot? Don't look over here. Hillary isn't doing anything illegal.
>>79041192
>working class should be turning on the parasitic scum above them (who are mainly white)
Who are mainly jewish.
>>79038403
So nobody in a country should care about each other? We all should be some careless individuals? We should invite all the greedy third-world leeches into our countries because it's not their fault their countries are failed states?
You probably believe the "diversity = strength" meme.
>>79040658
>But these are not YOUR achievements. More to the point, they are not YOUR people.
yes they are, where you are born determines your people...
>>79038403
Nationalism is nothing more than putting the interests of your people before all others.
>>79040658
>one race
feel free to tell that to the doctor when you need a bone marrow transplant you fucking retard.
https://bethematch.org/transplant-basics/matching-patients-with-donors/how-does-a-patients-ethnic-background-affect-matching/
>>79041192
Take the door off your house, see no borders, we have them for a reason. To PROTECT the land our FOREFATHERS FOUGHT TO PROTECT.
>>79038403
>an accident of birth
There is no such thing as an "accident of birth"; if you were born elsewhere, to other parents, you wouldn't be you, you'd be someone else. There is nothing arbitrary about identifying someone based on what they are, or by identifying yourself based on the people you're descended from.
Cancer implies it is a mutation, and that it's fatal to its host. From the earliest recorded civilizations, we have people declaring their love of their homeland, its traditions, culture, language and people, and a desire to preserve that. It's naturally occurring, and it's a love that exists to preserve that nation for it's to the benefit of the people. The cancer, rather, is globalization, which is artificial, forced and resisted by all with any life-throb. Globalization destroys culture, destroys community, destroys identity. Globalization is the cancer. Nationalism is the cure.
>>79038403
nationalism and pride arent the same thing you snaggle toothed poof
don't reply to cuck threads
>>79038403
>accident of birth
>it is an accident that two white Dutch people have a white Dutch child
Nice logic mate
>>79038403
OP you've already been blown the fuck out hard.
But this is just my 2 pence.
1) Where you are born isn't really an accident, that assumes some kind of "you" exists independently of YOU before birth, that magically throws itself into your body when you are born. You as you are, couldn't have been born anywhere else, otherwise you would not be you.
2) As for "social constructs", the law is a social construct, egalitarianism is a social construct. You can't deconstruct some things whilst keeping the things you like. If you trace the roots of your thinking it has it's origins in Christianities universalism. Everything can be deconstructed, ethnicity and race are a lot more real than most things.
3) There are differences between races. If you refuse to even entertain this principle than you are nothing more than a racial creationist.
Now personally I am not "proud" of my race or anything like that. I just don't want to see Europe flooded and changed fundamentally from what it has been for over 1000 years. I think it's sad for people's to kill themselves out of guilt, don't you?
>>79038403
For the same reason that we are proud of things that our family members and ancestors have done. Consciously or subconsciously, humans recognise those of similar genetic heritage and see them as being on the same team. Nationalism is completely natural and healthy and necessary for genetic survival.
Leftists like yourself, however, are not healthy in the mind. Leftists usually dislike their parents and resent tradition. You are civilisation destroyers and hate anything that is wholesome or natural and you don't have interest in your own genetic survival. It's why leftists have very few children on average.
>>79039957
>>79038944
>2 literal non-countries proud of their nations
kek, ok then
nationalism is selflessness and thus cannot be expected from the weak and insecure - ie lefties
saged
>>79038995
>>79041192
It builds barriers how? You mean physically or in people's minds? I don't need to be proud of Britain to look at Islam and call it barbaric. I'm glad of nation states as they can act as a bulwark against Islam. Can you image living in a world with a muslim majority? Now imagine nations were gone and mob rule was global. How long til you are paying Dhimmi tax?
The world is divided by ideals anyway. Borders take the edge of this clash somewhat.
Where we are now, borders are very much necessary.
You've also not made the case for globalism/no borders.
Check this out lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Gellner#Nationalism
>In 1983, Gellner published Nations and Nationalism. For Gellner, "nationalism is primarily a political principle that holds that the political and the national unit should be congruent".[9] Gellner argues that nationalism appeared and became a sociological necessity only in the modern world. In previous times ("the agro-literate" stage of history), rulers had little incentive to impose cultural homogeneity on the ruled. But in modern society, work becomes technical; one must operate a machine, and as such, one must learn. There is a need for impersonal, context-free communication and a high degree of cultural standardisation.
>Furthermore, industrial society is underlined by the fact that there is perpetual growth: employment types vary and new skills must be learned. Thus, generic employment training precedes specialised job training. On a territorial level, there is competition for the overlapping catchment areas (such as Alsace-Lorraine). To maintain its grip on resources and its survival and progress, the state and culture must for these reasons be congruent. Nationalism, therefore, is a necessity.
This man was not a right-winger. He was just an social anthropologist and philosopher.
>>79041697
They're good for breaking up the circlejerking that usually goes on, and people can use them as a source of argumentation.
I'll let this man speak for me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vm_J-tNUws0
>>79038403
>you didn't build your house, you didn't sow the seeds growing on your lawn
>look at that fool doing home renovations, maintaining a property he didn't build, cutting the lawn
>what a stupid thing to have pride in....
Get fucked OP. Millennial Liberals are the most narcissistic generation ever.
Piss and moan about their parents and things today, when it was the same attitude that their parents had that lead to this bullshit.
>>79038403
>posts pic of Chomsky
>Chomsky is an ashkenazi jew
hmmm i wonder whos behind this post
>>79041192
This is utterly retarded thinking. Why would the white working class have ANYTHING to do with a bunch of muslims or Africans that are NOTHING like them. Why would the white working class want to see their neighbourhoods completely morph into an alien cultural landscape, and their wages be undercut by 3rd worlders?
It's the elite that force multiculturalism and "diversity" as positive ideals, how can't you see that? Multiculturalism naturally leads to to divisions, nationalism is about separation between races/people's and UNITY amongst themselves. It is a far better way to oppose the elite than any other.
>>79038403
Genes you inherit from your ancestors are better than those who competed against them.
>>79038403
>turns the working classes against each other
there's more than one working class?
>>79040658
Lol. I wonder if you go around telling black Americans they have just as much right to feel guilty about slavery as white Americans. I bet probably not.
>Have a sports team that harmonizes well
>Every player is decently skilled and does everything in his power to make this team succeed
>Somehow it's wrong to be proud of that team effort
>Somehow it's a good idea to let players join that will not get along with the rest of the team and perform poorly
>Somehow it's wrong that the original members of the team want to bring back their team to it's former glory
>>79038768
Proud to be White and an American
This pokes a hole in your theory it seems.
>>79041834
dude weed lmao
To anyone saying that Nationalism is a social construct, then that means I can say I am Japanese and identify as Japanese and in fact Japanese, despite never going there in my entire life.
it's entirely nonsense to say that the place you are born isn't important.
>>79038403
> being corporate street bitch
> muh working class
Get your shit together leftie, you're being used by Big Biz
>>79041893
/pol/acks turn into quite capable political philosophers when someone dare to question why they love their nation. It's a great sight to see.
If you stop reading this you're gonna die, My name is teresa fidalgo if you don't post this on 20 photos I will sleep with you forever.. This girl ignored and 29 days later her mom died. I am real you can search up on google
>>79040673
amen
>>79040658
It's natural for some people to get a sense of pride from what their ancestors did. Why do you think Black americans are so desperate to think that the Egyptians were black? People unite over a common past, not abstract marxist "class unity" and other failed concepts that belong in a 19th century coffee house. If you want to unite the working class, or any class, it requires an emotional element based off of shared ancestry, common heritage and BLOOD. Anything else will flounder in the wind.
>>79038403
Nation is not an accident. Your ancestors fought for the land, your ancestors gave birth to you, your ancestors loved you. But you don't seem to believe in free will. That's the problem: you don't realize you are responsible for your actions, you live in a fantasy land where you are born out of accident and so are your kids, you have no culture, you are a nihilist and you will die, or you will be conquered.
>>79038403
>construct
kill yourself, b8.
>>79039793
That pic
>>79038403
The real enemy are the jews opposing nationalism.
>>79038403
So you aren't proud of yourself? I mean you were born that way. Why be proud of something so silly which you can't control? You shouldn't be proud of anything because you have basically no control over any of it.
Nihilism is cancer. You are the cancer.
>nationalism is about abstractions like pride and patriotism
>nationalism has no tangible effects on a country's economy, culture, or people
Don't they have tests that let parents know they should abort their tard foetus?
>>79041975
Goddammit Brazil... thank you for this.
>>79038403
I'm not even a lefty and I agree with everything you said.
>>79043277
Fitting ID.
>>79038403
It isn't good to base your entire self worth on the fact that you belong to a certain group from birth, but at the same time you can still view some groups as superior to others.
Also using purely logical arguments to dismiss "group pride" isn't always the best because it ignores the fact that humans are not, and will never be, completely logical. We develop emotional attachments to the culture that we were raised in, and while maybe it isn't completely rational to hold your own group above others, it's a universal trait that all humans share (as well as many other species of animals).
Maybe if humans were all emotionless robots then globalism could work, but if you want a system that makes us happy by playing to our natural qualities as humans, then nationalism is the obvious choice.
>>79038403
You realise nationalism is a better way to class unity than globalism, right?
>>79038403
I just love all this free bait you are throwing at me.
>>79038403
Eat a dick, fagboy.
sage
>>79043391
You can use emotion as an argument, but you can't dismiss it then by calling it senseless and illogical. We do certain things because they make us happy, we act out in certain ways because we're angry, and more oft than not, we're angry at times when we feel that we've been wronged and it is perfectly logical to lash out at injustice.
>>79038403
Saying nationalism is cancer is around the same level of "religion is useless" fedora bullshit or edgy "morals only hinder science" crap.
They are part of human nature and will never be "removed" from our thoughts.
>>79038768
>Nobody here is proud of their nation or race btw
wat
Also sage
>>79038403
>I genuinely cannot comprehend
No shit. That's because you're stupid. Happy to help, have a nice day.
>>79041739
Leftism is completely disjoint from the realities of human nature and envisions a world where all the races and cultures of the world are blended together, all group and personal individuality destroyed, and forced to live out a meaningless existence as a nameless, faceless worker ant.
>>79044444
Holy shit, witnessed.
>>79044444
Quints!!?? Maybe I should reconsider my position on this issue then.
>>79044730
>>79045042
Kek is on our side.
