The Visegrád Group (led by Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia) is already half-way to reconstituting the great Habsburg Empire. Throw in Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, and Romania, and go dig up an old Habsburg as a figure head, and you now have a viable Central European Empire that can stand up to Germany, Russia, Turkey and the Muslims.
Convince me this isn't the best course for Europe in the post-Brexit, post-EU world.
(((habsberg)))
>>79133733
You dumbass: "Burg" means castle in German.
The dissolution of the Habsburg Empire was probably the greatest tragedy of World War I and Versailles.
Woodrow Wilson threw away 400 years of history and balkanized this great Central European empire into a dozen bankrupt components parts.
The EU was doomed to failure to because Italians have very little in common with Danes, and Poles don't have much in common with Portugal.
But the Central European countries are not only geographically contiguous block standing between a revanchist Germany and a revanchist Russia, but they share a common history dating back to the 16th century.
Poland and Hungary should just create a anti-immigration pact. There possibly the two most based country's in Europe.
>>79133220
>>79133974
>>79135916
go back to the promised land OP and take the rest of (((habsburg))) with you
>>79137331
You do realize that I was being generous with Poland's borders in the new Habsburg Empire, right?
Half of today's Poland is actually Prussia. If you Poles want to secure your Prussian lands, you better start looking for a way to turn the Visegrád Group into a real Central European powerhouse.
>>79138515
Kek
germany is a dead man walking >>79134887
>>79133220
Have you never read Mein Kampf you pleb.
>>79138515
Prussia was historically a vassal state of Poland.
![M.D. Geist Director's Cut [Jap.Ger.Eng.Dub][Ger.Eng.Sub][DBNL][MeisterMutaito].mkv_snapshot_07.15_[2016.04.22_22.53.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ikKqBHD.jpg "M.D. Geist Director's Cut [Jap.Ger.Eng.Dub][Ger.Eng.Sub][DBNL][MeisterMutaito].mkv_snapshot_07.15_[2016.04.22_22.53.31].jpg")
>you were born just in time for based Pooland to become the dominant power of continental eruope
>>79133733
Kek, but what >>79133974 said.
>>79133220
We should lead it once again
>>79133220
does kek approve?
>>79133220
>not claiming the leftovers of Yugoslavia
No no no no no. You don't get to take the TV and couch and leave the mangy cat that shits all over the carpet.
>>79140740
Fuck that. We don't need those dirty Serbs and disgusting Muslim Bosniaks included.
>>79140452
>Thinks Spain is relevant today
Sorry, anon, but there's no room in my Habsburg 2.0 Empire for Iberians, Russians, or Turks.
Even the Romanians are only junior members, as I included them primarily to give Transylvania back to Hungary (from which it was stolen after Trianon).
please
the eternal russian is thirsty
>>79133220
But I thought the surviving Habsburgs are all EU shills
>>79140740
>not claiming the leftovers of Yugoslavia
Exactly. It's what was done previously in the Habsburg 1.0 Empire. Smart empires don't expand without purpose - and there's no point in expanding into a bankrupt geographic zone.
Places like Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovnia, Montenegro, and Macedonia were always buffer states (e.g. dumping grounds) between Central Europe and the Ottoman Empire. And that's the role they'd play in Habsburg 2.0
The millions of so-called "refugees" and "migrants" on their way to Europe get to hang out in what's left of Yugoslavia while the Hungarians secure the borders of the Habsburg Union.
>>79133974
And berg means mountain
And stein means rock
And geld means gold
Back to the oven, Mr (((Geldbergstein)))
I wish I was alive back then just to club every single inbred (((Habsburg))) to death.
>(led by Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia)
Yes I'm sure the weakest nations in the area have the gusto to make this happen
>>79142176
Slavs were always the cornerstone of the monarchy.
>>79141676
>But I thought the surviving Habsburgs are all EU shills
Who cares? Whoever gets slotted in to be King (or Queen) would have less power than Queen Elizabeth. Real power would be wielded by Viktor Orban in Hungary and Eric Hofer in Austria.
Plus there are plenty of Habsburgs to choose from. At the time of his death in 2011, Otto von Habsburg was survived by 7 children, 22 grandchildren and 2 great-grandchildren.
So, you have 31 potentials to pick from, only one of whom needs to be reasonably uncucked.
I'm telling you...IT COULD HAPPEN!
>>79133220
Wew I get to have this much poland?
Oy vey what are we waiting for?
>>79142596
>Whoever gets slotted in to be King (or Queen) would have less power than Queen Elizabeth
What's the point then?
Are you retarded?
>>79142596
>you will never force a Habsburger to transfuse his blood with yours while his family is gagged on they ground surrounded by your goonies, while waiting to get handed over the crown and the official letter that family Habsburg declares me as their eternal and only heir
>>79133220
Fuck off
>>79133220
The Habsburgs were one of the worst things that ever happened to Europe.
Gas yourself.
>>79133220
>Poland
>Not Jagiełło, or another polish king
>>79143137
He was lithuanian
The Eternal Habsburgs are at it again
>>79141397
>please
If the Baltics are really prepared to pull their weight in Habsburg 2.0, I'm sure the powers-that-be can work out some kind of arrangement.
It's important to deny Russia easy access to the Baltic Sea and force them back into (((Königsberg))).
>>79143183
but they were historical rulers and most of them were later on due to marriages.
>>79143377
Why do the colors of the shirt in the first row change between panels?
>>79143377
>>79143872
#triggered
>>79142987
>The Habsburgs were one of the worst things that ever happened to Europe.
Except for all the others.
How can you dismiss 400 years of relative stability, and an Empire that drew the line on multiple occasions against the spread of Islam in Europe (Hungarians had to endure 150 years of Ottoman occupation before), as well as untold and immeasurable contributions to science, math, physics, astronomy, music and philosophy?
Top tip: you can't
>>79143377
I feel so left out at the moment, I have this incredible urge to destroy europe but there is just so little I can do.
How can we make another war happen?
>>79133733
Being this new
The inbred dynasty is supposed to be back and holding a combined power of the whole of central europe? No pls.
How is this "power" supposed to balance all the ethnic groups? I mean Poland can deal with pretty much everyone in it but what about Hungary and Romania(if you want to even include them)?
Where's the center of all this gonna be? If it's in Wien you can all fuck off.
>>79144455
>I feel so left out at the moment, I have this incredible urge to destroy europe but there is just so little I can do.
Make Austria Great Again
Don't feel left out. In Habsburg 2.0, Austria would take its rightful place among the leading nations of Europe.
In Austria's stolen presidential elections last month, more than 52% of the Austrian population has already proven on the global stage that they are uncucked. You're in the majority for once, anon!
Things are about to happen fast, and Austria will have a front-row seat.
>>79142987
Are you fucking retarded, They along with Poland basically won the second decisive battle to keep the mudslimes out and held the line before and after, right up there with Charles martell, Pelagius of Asturias, and the rest of the holy league.
>>79133220
Related
>>78957801
>>79144783
>Where's the center of all this gonna be?
Imagine a sort of expanded Dual Monarchy: Budapest, Vienna, Prague, Warsaw
I could also imagine a rotating capital. But if there can be only one, then let it be Budapest.
>>79145504
>Budapest
Bretty good, in the center and on our hungarian brother's land
I like it
>>78957801
Excellent cross link. Kek approved.
I also like how you've correctly used the debris of Yugoslavia as a buffer zone between Europe proper and the mudslimes.
>>79145088
Appreciate the highly-topical link.
I'm in, great idea.
>>79145784
Should let Croatia in, they ain't fucked like serbia, and the rest of the balkans.
>>79146091
kek
>>79133220
>be me
>13 years school
>no fucking clue what the burger is talking about
But I learned that we are guily.
>>79146296
>Should let Croatia in, they ain't fucked like serbia, and the rest of the balkans
Croatia was included in the OP. So is Slovenia (which is, coincidentally, where Trumps' hot wife is from).
Both countries deserve to be in Habsburg 2.0, whereas Serbia, Bosnia, Hercegovina, Montenegro and Macedonia do not belong. At all.
>>79146664
Yea I know, they wasn't in the picture he linked though.
>>79146565
I pity germany so much, taught to hate themselves over WW2 more than americans are over slavery even.
>>79146296
>>79146664
>>79133220
>habsburg
fuck off retard
>>79141397
Ma' friend
There will be no Habsburg empire, we will never go into that.
But on the other hand, Commonwealth is a place where the Baltics are welcome
>>79146565
It's hard to believe that you never heard about the Habsburgs.
>>79142105
no, Gold means Gold, Geld means Money
>>79140452
This is a very interesting diagram. When and where was it made?
From the Spaniardboo stuff and the hatred of Hungarians I'd guess it was from Austria/southern HRE, and from the various clues (England's ruler is "changing every day" - Cromwell, Charles II, William III - and Russia is "ruled by a volunteer" - Michael I, elected by the Grand Kniaz) I'd guess around 1680-1690...?
Here is an advance copy of the speech that Viktor Orban will give when he takes charge as the first Chancellor of Habsburg 2.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is-wgVzc7qw
>>79140452
>long skirts
wtf
>boastful
It fits too much
>nobility
Not anymore :^)
>arguing
literally nothing else to do
>in a stable
Dont even know what that means, because husaria or something?
>>79143872
Russia did not last in WW1
France did not last in WW2
>>79147942
OP I love how you think but I hope you know that Habsburg won't literally be revived. It will not be called that, anyway, and probably will not ever have a monarch.
I would love it, too, but it's extremely unlikely
>>79147192
>Conveniently forgets that after the 15th century, Poland was partitioned not once, not twice, but (...wait for it...) three times between Prussia, Austria, and Russia. And then two more times in the 20th century.
Mere details
>>79148270
Oh noeh. Poland's territory WAS TAKEN
AND NOW IT BELONGS TO PRUSSIA
But the same to Prussia in XX century
IT STILL BELONGS TO PRUSSIA
Honestly, You're just an American, You know shit and we all know that, but could You, please, stop annoying us with Your ignorance of facts and cherrypicking?
>>79148270
Poor Poland, they didn't deserve that after they had the greatest instance of removing kebab imo.
>>79148270
>Austrian empire does not exist anymore
>Russian empire does not exist anymore
>Prussia is literally our territory
>Poland still exists
:^)
>>79148596
Austria, Russia and Germany still exist. Empire is just a name.
Comment you fuckers.
>>79148695
Prussia does not, Austria got balkanized and same with Russia
We stayed in the borders that we had when the country was formed.
>>79148823
don't use such impolite terms as 'fuckers', it's impolite in our culture, you fucking Slav
>>79139547
lol no
SOON!
>>79148879
Najedi se kurčine debeli
Or check out version No.2
>>79148851
Quiet filthy West Slav vermin, Germanic and East Slavic HUMANS are deciding your future for you!
>>79133220
Yeah you better not paint Switzerland any color you fucking BITCH
>>79133220
>habsburg
pls no.
if that shit would ever get real, I'll leave for a lonely island somewhere far away. that's for sure.
>>79148851
Time to fix that.
>>79148952
Alpine-Donau-Adriatic Union
A.D.A.U.
>>79148823
Alpine-Adriatic Union
A.A.U.
>>79148965
>East slavs
>humans
kek
>>79149041
good luck with your bundeswehr lad :^)
>>79149036
>switzerland acting tough
>one of the most cucked by refugees nations
Top fucking lel.
>>79133220
>Austria
>standing up to Muslims
Top kek m8
>>79149149
HOW DARE YOU, RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION IS THE BASIS OF THE MODERN WORLD, WE SAVED EUROPA FROM MONGOLS, UNLIKE U WHO SUCKED ROMANTIC COCKS
YOU ARE UNEQUAL TO THE BRAVE ARYAN GERMANIC WARRIOR KNIGHTS WHO BATTLED US IN WW2
WE HAIL OUR EQUAL FOES
YOU ARE SIMPLY THE RAT VERMIN CARRIERS OF CHRISTIAN SLAVE MORALITY AND CATHOLIC FAITHFULNESS
ADIEU
>>79149260
roman* not romantic
>>79149260
>Saved europe from mongols
More like got fucking destroyed by them and sucked their dicks
Nothing good has ever came from the east my slavic "brother"
>>79135916
t.ignorant americuck
>>79149496
proud to be RUSSIAN AMERICAN
AMERICANS, GERMANS, RUSSIANS, FRENCH, BRITISH, ALL EQUAL MASTERS OF THE WORLD, GREAT CONQUERORS
THE COMMON POLE IS SIMPLY A FUCKING DIRTY JEALOUS PERSON WHO IS HATEFUL AND SMALLMINDED ABOUT THE WORLD
POLAND IS THE NATURAL LAND BARRIER BETWEEN THE GREAT NATIONS
SO YOU SHOULD BE FREE FOREVER
BUT NEVER EXPAND, AND WE TAKE YOUR WEALTH AS WE CHOOSE
AND POLISH FEMALES ARE MY PERSONAL SEXTOY
-RUSSIAN AMERICAN PATRIOT
>>79148930
>>79141197
Keep dreaming, goulashniggers/
>>79149260
>tfw Russia stopped being a shithole after Peter the Great came on a tour to Western Europe and copied their ideas.
But you're an American. Why would You know that.
>>79149660
WE ARE GERMANIC RUS PEOPLE SLAVICIZED IN CULTURE, EAST SLAVS ARE NOT REALLY SLAVIC IN RACE
WE ARE YOUR NATURAL MASTERS
POLISH GIRLS ARE MY TOYS
I AM A NATURAL ARISTOCRAT AND KING OVER POLACK DO-NOTHING MONKEYS WHO SIMPLY COPIED GERMANIC TACTICS
ORTHODOXY IS THE REAL CHURCH AND THE CONTINUATION OF ROMAN EMPIRE
>>79149260
>>79149613
>>79149854
I like that cat picture, though.
>>79149613
Holy shit im crying while laughing
You're a Russian patriot or American one because I honestly cant tell.
Russia literally steals west's inventions and ideas to slightly improve the backwater shithole it is. The biggest country on earth and and cant even govern itself kek.
Literally stole our entire library in the partitions.
America is built on poles, Kościuszko, Pułaski etc.
>>79133220
There is no fucking way we unite with anything romanians in, gypsies came to the EU after us, that was the first time I realised what a big fucking mistake we made joining. More than half of present day romania is rightful hungarian territory, our new group should take it, and kick all romanians and gypsies (most are too mixed to differenciate anyways) out of it. Without any romanians or gypsies and the muslims (looking at croatia, they have life 5%), this monarchy could work, otherwise, fuck all.
>>79141197
fuck off bozgor
>>79150014
Oh noes, i can already hear the march of Romanian armies, comming to this thread to talk about the ancient Dacian civilisation and the battle of skaldjsaljdasd that they definitely won and therefore the argument is invalid
>>79150014
You do not have a country
You are magyarised slavo-vlachs with no culture and language except the one raped into you by the bashkir on-ogur madjars.
After we unite with R.Moldova we come for Tisa.
>>79150149
dumb polish animal untermensch dont talk about us.
>>79150014
>implying we would want to unite with shit eating bozgors.
also, TRIANON, you pussy ass nigger.
>>79149900
>>79149960
QUIET POLACK PIGS
YOU'RE MY BACON
FOR BREAKFAST
>>79150224
>>79150247
>>79150253
Holy shit so soon
leave our hunbro alone pls
>>79150297
I AM THE LORD OF CREATION
BOW TO THE POWER OF MY VODKA AND MY DOSTOYEVSKI NOVELLAS
>>79150224
Yeah yeah, go tell your stories elsewhere, see if anyone give you a coin for your shitty delusional tales. You can't even manage to run the goldmines you stole from us properly, and poisoned Tisza plenty of times. We should have fed all the cyanide soaked fish to you dirtpeople, the world would be a better place.
>>79150331
>your retard hunbro starts talking shit
> we are not allowed to reply
Suck my dick, german-russian rape baby.
>>79150429
There is nothing we stole from you because hungarians never had anything.
Goldmines?You mean those that were always mined by romanians from Tara Motilor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRtL-rFKwA
>>79150149
Nah, we'll just remind the pseudo-hun-chink-eyed-motherfucker that our armies sacked Budapest twice in less than 20 years apart.
No need for ancient Dacians and *insert random battle here and there*.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian%E2%80%93Romanian_War
>>79150253
>nigger says the shitskin
Trianon was done by the jews who were afraid of us, so your kind was not only fucked by muslims but for the last century sucking off jews. You are nothing more than a brown semite cumdump.
>>79150429
>be 1918 Hungary
> lose 70% of its territory
J U S T
U
S
T
>>79150561
>jews afraid of us
top kek nice nationalists myths
Romania annexed you in WW1 like it was nothing, when the germans and austriaks were not there anymore to aid you.
I'm all for another Habsburg Mon. or an extended Visegrad, but it should be limited western slavic countries. Recently I've been seeing more and more panslavic crap posted here, which is completely out of touch with reality.
Catholic and orthodox slavs cannot peacefully coexist in the same alliance or under the same ruler. I think it's about time we finally admit that and stop pretending that "this time it will be different".
>>79150602
this cat is fucking angry at u faggot >>79150368
>>79140452
>Turk common diseases are impotence
>>79150677
>Tfw nobody cares about You anymore
We have gone through experiencing your retardacy, now back to the shadow, beast.
>>79150561
afraid of a country that was completely fractured?
Do we actually have to remind you that if it weren't for us, Hungary would have been run by commies ever since 1918?
We motherfucking sacked your capital and liberated your people in the aftermath of WW1, we sacked your capital and liberated your people AGAIN in the aftermath of WW2.
>I always wish the Ruskies would have left us to completely demolish that shit stain you call a capital
Also, keep talking about gippos, you magyarized Gabor. Percentage wise, you have more gippos than us, and I can't even bother to show you some charts.
>>79137318
>country's
Nigga you simply cannot be this illiterate.
>>79150561
> jews who were afraid of us
TOP FUCKING KEK.
You delusional niggers are just a mangy dog who barks pointlessly at ou7r gate.
Your country is shit, your army is shit and your people are even worse than shit.
Kek, even when our police arested the chieftans of Szekely terorist groups you didn't even said enything, you just let them tot in prison, where they are raped over and over again.
>>79150761
shut up asshole
i have literally cursed u with the strength of my hate for you
you fucking know it's true
you'd be dead if I could get away with it
>>79149036
>Yeah you better not paint Switzerland any color you fucking BITCH
Don't worry, anon. In Habsburg 2.0, there will always be room for secret Swiss bank accounts, designer watches, cheese and chocolate.
Switzerland has nothing to fear from Habsburg 2.0
>>79150809
thats the Hungarian Kingdom under Habsburgs.Hungary eis recognised as a state starting with 1919.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=romania&country2=hungary&Submit=COMPARE
>mfw the chink-eyed-rape-baby thinks he has a chance against our army
Bro, even though our army is shit compared to what we had under the commie rule, your army is completely shallow. Like literally, you could not defend your country for more than 6 hours in front of a full assault, yet you dream of an Austro-Hungarian Empire?
Please come back when you have something relevant to say, with facts.
>>79133220
Spilling blood for the Monarchy
???
Get left out on Habsburg 2.0
>>79148596
>srs question
What about your monarchs? Since you were in soviet union they prolly offed every aristocrat there was.
>>79150786
>they fractured the country because they were afraid of our potential
>implying we could not overthrow the commies ourself, and were not in the process while you showed up
>saved or sacked, pick one
>calling ww2 helping soviets that annexed us for 50 years liberation
>Percentages can lie, and you call most your gypsies romanians.
>>79149532
>Fucking French Fried Maginot Line
topkek
>>79151050
Yep, they are predictable. Also thanks for support. I love Poland and polish people. My best friend was polish while I was living in London.
>>79151142
stop sucking cock bozgor
>>79151080
dirty mongrel accept the history. The Hungarian Soviet Republic ceased to exist after the Romanian occupation.
You were owned like a vermin when you were no longer backed up by germans and austriaks.Romania was attacked in WW1 by germans,austro-hungarians,bulgarians and fleeing soviets later, and we didnt complain when germans took our capital and tried to force us to sign peace.Our king refused to sign, we switched capital to Moldova and we waited for the opportunity to ravage your shithole of a country.Stop crying like a bitch.
>>79150991
To be fair we would likely annex Bosnia territory, (the Habsburg group together), but muzzies would be kicked out.
>>79151368
It is rightful Croat clay after all...
>>79151080
.September 2, 1918 - A Congress of Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Romanians, Serbs, Croatians, and Ruthenes of Austria-Hungary takes place in New York City. A resolution demanding the division of the Austria-Hungary and the liberation of its peoples is passed.
Every nation under the Habscucks hated you and the Austrians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Transylvania_with_Romania
You can lie all you want, but you lost , and lost so bad Hungary is now just a fucking post stamp with desilusions of an empire.
>>79151080
>Percentages can lie, and you call most your gypsies romanians.
In your census 15% of population did not answer and officialy you have 0.2% more gypsies.Also ours migrate en-mass to West while yours even become PM like Orban.
Take random romanians and dna test them : 99.9% european
Take random hungarians and dna test them: 5% have M gypsy haplogroup
>>79150561
>romanians
>more jewish than hungarians
you can't be more retarded than this
>>79151080
>they fractured the country because it was made up by stolen territories from virtually every country that you had a boarder with. Do I even have to tell you the ethnic distribution in those aforementioned territories?
>You could not overthrow the commies by yourself, and history can show that pretty fucking well. Who the fuck could overthrow them, the same people that participated in the Red Revolution in 1918? The people brought the commies to power, not the commies themselves, but keep lying to yourself to make you feel better
>I have not said "saved", not even once. You were sacked like the whores you were, even though you attacked Romania with the full backing of the Austrian Imperial Army. You lost a war that you started, and you lost it by getting conquered by us single-handedly, seeing that the Russians were already retreating due to the Reds rising to power.
> we do not call most of your gippos Romanians. They don't like that, they do not identify themselves as Romanians, they never will. But hey, you know a lot of these things, so I guess the Gabor blood is running strong in you.
Keep on spewing shit from your mouth, little neighbour that is frustrated because he is not relevant anymore. You will never regain your territories, you will never be a super-power again.
>mfw he thinks he can actually contribute to a political union in any ways possible except providing fresh gulash for everybody else.
Please do tell me how many resources your country has. Please do tell me how much manpower your country has. Please do tell me how fast can your territory disappear if you neighbour countries get as mad as you are on a daily basis.
>>79151368
We were suggestin this to you back in the 1900s yet you did not want to listen us.
>>79150639
LOL Habsburg monarchy is the opposite of Visegraf group.
I do not wish to live under a shitty Austrian king. fuck off.
Clearly it does appear that including both Hungary AND Romania in Habsburg 2.0 may be problematic.
Since Habsburg 2.0 will be build on the foundations of the Visegrad group (which includes Hungary but NOT Romania), I'm afraid to say that Romania will likely not be invited to join the reconstituted empire just yet.
>>79151796
we do not want to be part of any empire
>>79151691
>Kaiser
>>79133220
Romanians pobably don't want to team up with Hungarians, or Czechs, or Poles, or Austrians or anyone but themselves
>>79151873
>Sait the Romanian
>"we do not want to be part of any empire"
Fair enough. Habsburg 2.0 only wants to have willing members.
Feel free to partner with Bulgaria, Turkey, Greece, and Macedonia, anon. These countries are not in Habsburg 2.0 either.
>>79151796
Then your logic is flawed and you should be gassed immediately.
>murican logic
Compare the armies (equipment), available resources across the country, geo-strategic position, available manpower during a war and so on, and you could clearly see which country has more to offer.
Also, please take your german-austrian monarchy and shove it straight up your arse.
>>79138515
>Half of today's Poland is actually Prussia.
Lol no.
>>79148904
You idiot.
>>79151568
We were also fighting on the Russian and on the Italian front, and contributed and lost many man. Also Slovaks tried to rebel against us, and we supressed that, until we pulled our forces back as part of peace treaty negotiations, should not have done that. You did not face our full forced, let alone backed by anyone, you faced an exhausted warweary group on the edge of civil war.
We can contribute in science, medicine, energy, and great fucking agriculture, we many unused workforce, and automated weapon systems will fight the future wars, we have factories that can by refubrished to produce drones. Also, you are genetically distinct enough from the rest of this Habsburg group to be targeted by ethnic bioweapons, you can fuck your numbers.
>>79151691
I genuinely don't give a fuck who's in charge as long as they're competent and have the well-being of the people in mind.
>>79148520
>instance
*instances
>>79152372
>We were also fighting on the Russian and on the Italian front, and contributed and lost many man.
Romania has the highest % in loses, 8% , while Austro-Hungary has 4.5%, a good part in Austria, less in Hungary.
>We can contribute in science, medicine, energy, and great fucking agriculture, we many unused workforce, and automated weapon systems will fight the future wars, we have factories that can by refubrished to produce drones.
top kek nice delusions
>and then you woke up from the bench in the park
>Also, you are genetically distinct enough from the rest of this Habsburg group to be targeted by ethnic bioweapons, you can fuck your numbers.
sure if you want around 25% of your population to die too
>>79152372
>russian front
You do motherfucking realise that the Russian front was the same one as the Romanian front, right? It was even called the Russian-Romanian front, or the Eastern Front, for mongrels such as yourself.
>muh full force army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian%E2%80%93Romanian_War
Check the link, brah. You had an army of about 80.000 soldiers, we had an army of about 96.000. You lost more than 40k soldiers during the fighting between ROMANIAN and HUNGARIAN troops.
>let alone backed by anyone
At this point I'm definitely sure that you know jack shit about your own god damn history. Who started the god damn war? You attacked us with the full force of the Austro-Hungarian Empire + the Germans, yet you still managed to lose your country. Tell me how great you truly were, Gabor.
>muh heritage
>>79133220
fuck off, we're full!
there's no reason whatsoever we would have anything to do with anybody except for Poland.
Hungary is a joke in both economy and military (even compared to us)
>>79152548
Fuck them, we would have to deport the gypsies and mixed ones anyways, not sure if they are already 25%, but they do breed fast. They are not integrating, just a welfare drain, taking away further resources from real hungarians.
>>79152372
>eternal butthurt, the post
Also
>muh, muh ethnic bio weapons
Nigger , are you retarded? Are you unaware that de second you will deploy any kind of bio weapons all of NATO will buttfuck you into oblivion?
Damn I didn't know there is so much hate between hungarians and romanians. I like both nations t b h
>>79152729
this is some pathetic trolling my bozgor friend :)
>>79152729
you have a country of 10 million people, you fucking delusional cunt..
there is literally nothing you can do but cry on the internet.
And let me put this into perspective; Presumably if Transylvania would return to hungary, you would become a minority in your own country, so just fuckk off to your goulash den and come back when you have an argument.
>>79152929
only hungarians hate us, we dont hate them.
>>79152763
Implying NATO won't fall apart after Trump gets elected, and EU collapses. This thread is about forming a new Habsburg Empire, with that circumstances every group would be busy carving away slices of countries that get left alone, noone would give a damn about cruelty when they would use similar tactics on their opponents themself.
>>79152929
they're eternally butthurt and projecting their insecurities through gypsy memes.
Instead of acting like countries with a rich common history, they go full KANGZ mode and dream of former glory that they'll never achieve again.
>>79152929
Actually there's no hate coming from us, as far as I see in this thread, only different opinions and the occasional bashing of the mad Hungarian because they are still butthurt for their mighty fallen empire.
We, as Romanians, have always sought peace. We never conquered territories that were not rightfully ours, ever. Our national focus has always been the unification of all Romanian territories, and that's all. We never wanted to rule over people that were not Romanians, like the Hungarians did.
That's the main difference between our countries.
>>79153017
>with that circumstances every group would be busy carving away slices of countries that get left alone, noone would give a damn about cruelty when they would use similar tactics on their opponents themself.
what the fuck are you talking about? we're not in the middle ages, horse archer fuckboi
>>79152372
>>79152391
>>79152548
>>79152929
>Turns on Monty Python and the Holy Grail
This is supposed to be a HAPPY occasion!
Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who
>an american shilling for what's practically pan-slavism
Russian shill to be honest desu
>>79153017
Ok get ready to be Anschluss-ed as soon as that happens, chinky.
>Forgets link to Monty Python and the Holy Grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxFrXuly_B0
>>79153017
And you think you can stand up against us, you retard? Even with austrian help your combined armies are smaller than our army, not to mention that we will unite with Moldova if Nato fails.
How retarded con you be if you think that you can /will ever get Transilvania back, after 100 years ? Szeklers are now under 18% of the population , and many don't even want to join you.
>>79153017
should NATO fall apart, USA would lose bigtime in Europe
regardless what Trump says, he won't do shit about that
>>79152944
When we get back Transylvania, only hungarians and germans will be allowed to stay. We will move people from the main country there too, and since there will be much empty space, property prices fall, easier to buy houses, youth move out from home, willing to get children, hungarian population would start to grow steadily, until we run out of space again. Because we are not retarded enough to have children in soviet tenement blocks, just in proper housing with plenty of space.
>>79153316
>Szeklers are now under 18%
they are 532 szekelrs in Romania according to 2011 census
>>79133220
>Habsniggers
>Romania
you wat
>>79141197
>give Transylvania back to Hungary
You mean Austria
Hungary was partitioned following their defeat against the Ottomans and the kingdom of Hungary, while de jure still existing, became nothing more than an empty honorary title, which the Austrian emperor claimed for himself, and promises of self-governance which the empire barely even pretended to respect.
From 1541 to 1867 there was, de facto, no such state as Hungary.
bozgors can't even get this simple fact straight baka
>>79153373
>When we get back Transylvania
kek
>only hungarians and germans will be allowed to stay
you say that while your current country is infested with gypsies
> We will move people from the main country there too
what portion of the ~8 million magyars are you talking about and how do you protect the "border" ?
you're just a butthurt edgelord.
Hungary will never regain any lost lands
Hungary is irrelevant and currently has a joke of an army
you could not do shit even with full support from the austrians again
go back to masturbating to anime until you all eventually die out
You were a joke to us for the past 100 years
>>79153373
>When we get back Transylvania
>When
>>79153373
Just please don't throw your blue water navy at us. We just wouldn't be able to handle such power projection coming from Budapest :^)
>>79153396
Let's not start lying anon. There are still 5-6% of the total pop
>>79153373
w-will there be any way a romanian can survive in Transylvania after you take it?
>>79153719
yea but they were magyarised
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kelys
"(532 of them declared themselves as Székelys at the 2011 Romanian census)[4])"
>>79153105
>We never wanted to rule over people that were not Romanians, like the Hungarians did.
This is a complete lie. Nicolae Ceausescu worked around the clock to destroy all vestiges of Hungarian culture, history, and language in Transylvania precisely because it was NOT Romanian.
Countless hundreds and hundreds of ancient Hungarian villages in Transylvania were razed to the ground during they heyday of Nicolae Ceausescu's rule in the 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's. He also forcibly moved ethnic Romanians from the eastern part of the country into the villages and cities of Transylvania.
This policy "officially" ended with Ceausescu's execution in 1989, but even today deep down Romanians known that their claim to Transylvania is tenuous at best - more likely an outright fraud.
Those are the facts, anon.
>>79133220
Why not add Serbia and Bosnia
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
>>79153798
source
not speculation.
>>79153597
Even though I love Magyars, Bela Kun was a Jewish internationalist whore that deserved it.
>>79153798
>Nicolae Ceausescu worked around the clock to destroy all vestiges of Hungarian culture, history, and language in Transylvania precisely because it was NOT Romanian.
what proof you have of this?If anything , he moved all the hungarians in middle to encircle them.
>Countless hundreds and hundreds of ancient Hungarian villages
any proof they were destroyed?And also ancient does not mean 1500 + ancient is before evul medium
>>79153798
>Those are the facts, anon.
Doesn't post any facts.
R E T A R D
>Countless hundreds and hundreds of ancient Hungarian villages in Transylvania were razed to the ground
>muh hungarcoust
> muh 6 million goulash
>>79153597
Because your Dacia Dusters with top mounted machine guns would be effective against our BTR80-s. Any armor would cut through those shit like butter, and we have air superiority, more modern fighters. We would fuck you over big time. We could bring your country to death with us, even now, if we go all in, with allies we can even restrain ourself from doing some "warcrimes".
>>79153798
>Romanians known that their claim to Transylvania is tenuous at best - more likely an outright fraud.
Romania's are the aboriginals of this country and of this area in Europe.(South-East) while hungarians are magyarised slavs-romanians-germans.
>>79153373
>>79153597
Hey, hey, stop it, both of you!
We should stop fighting amongst each other (that's you guys) and instead team up to regain our lost lands stolen by Stalin in favour of the artificial country called Ukraine.
>>79153956
just like you fucked us in 1919
>>79153798
Yeah, m8. Now that we have an ethnically German president, he did a totally dandy job at destroying other cultures in these lands. Now that the high school ending exam is given in 3 languages - romanian, hungarian, german, just demonstrates the absolute destruction of all these poor minorities
>>79153956
your country can get annexed by Romania in a few days.You are on place 62 with the weakest european army, while Romania is place 43
>>79153863
And he got it.
Again, we have nothing against the hungarians, they're the ones crying about land.. and one would be retarded to argue that 5% of the population FROM transylvania would consist ANY reason for them to have independence or kek go to hungary.
>>79153956
Yes...Dacia dusters with machine guns
good goy
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=romania&country2=hungary&Submit=COMPARE
You're literally like the cockroaches who think they can occupy russia in 7 days
>>79139393
This to be frank. Hitler makes a good argument.
>>79153956
>Because your Dacia Dusters with top mounted machine guns would be effective against our BTR80-s
Top kek, the retard nigger brings an armoured transporter to a battle tank.
>>79154011
They're the ones acting like turks, Sven - not us...
just read the thread.
>mfw hungarians claim their shitty shacks are the greatest contribution to ardeal when germans built all the fancy buldings and romanians built the commieblocks
>>79154220
Even their hungarian buildings were build by romanians, because romanians made almost all the working class.Hungarians were a small nobility minority, while szeklers build their own houses but in small amouth and scattered.
>>79154060
kek, that shit is so bogus. according to that site our army can beat both yours and we only got a population on like 5 millions.
>>79154341
your army is indeed better
>>79154168
Yeah pretty sure the literaly rusty old tank would do you good. One rocket to the tracks and that shit don't moves anywhere. We have old T72-s too, barely any works, gave away bunch to Afgans for target practice for free, and sold many to chechs for parts, only have a few that still works, and doubt you maintained yours better.
>>79154341
You got oilmoneyz.
Plus it doesn't say you can beat the army, it just states that you prolly have better %
regardless of that, you still have the better army tbqh
>>79154011
There's actually no talk at all about those territories in Romania. But then, a few days ago, some Ro journalist interviewed the female pilot jailed by Russians a while back. Everyone was friendly and all, and then she drops the "Romania should not press claims against the territorial integrity of Ukraine". And then when the civil war was still big news, there were reports of some division or something created especially to prepare against a Romanian attack. Like fucking baka, paranoid mongoloid slavshit crypto-russians.
>>79153956
Atleast you got the correct aircraft.
But you only have 12 of them unfortunatly.
#schönbrunn4habsburgs
>>79154386
just shut the fuck up magyar
we outrank you in literally every aspect militarily;
go cry as much as you want over your delusional dreams of greater hungary which will never happen.
Also, I always enjoy when we beat the literal shit out of you every time you enter bucharest for a football game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP6eOU8qDFY
>>79154299
>mfw secuis use anticki moonrunes to pretend they still retain their turkic ancestry even tho they're magyarised turks mixed with romanians,germans and other slavs
>>79154341
Norway does have conscription. And money. And, on the defense, the geography.
This anon is right >>79153798
You guys are wrong >>79153904
>>79153955
>>79153853
See http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1994-5/Popham.htm
>>79133220
>Habsburg
So we can be cannon fodder again? No ty.
> YUGO YUGO YUGO
>>79154545
>you are wrong because an american non-contemporany journalists says so in her proofless journalist paper
fuck off bozgor
>>79154386
>rusty old tank
> all of them were modernised and upgraded in 1996 with the support of French and Jewish foreign companies, making them up to NATO standards.
>>79154545
And you are a retarded bozgor who hates Ceausescu for being a nationalist.
>>79154632
>Nato standards
So, what, you turned them into an even shittier versions ? Grats.
>>79154453
>"Romania should not press claims against the territorial integrity of Ukraine".
Fuck her.
>paranoid mongoloid slavshit crypto-russians.
Couldn't say it myself better. To bad the western ones have Polish blood in them and would be Poles today if not for the traitor Chmielnicki.
This artificial state is triggering me off so much.
>Ukraina: U+kraina - U krańcu krainy - U krańcu krainy Korony Królestwa Polskiego, Rzeczypospolitej Obojga Narodów.
>Ukraine: At+borderland - At the borderland of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
>>79153904
>any proof they were destroyed
>what proof you have of this
Here, I made a photo montage for you to demonstrate a point. Here's what Ceausescu (and tens of thousands of willing co-conspirators) did to the historic downtown in Bucharest.
Acres and acres of medieval Bucharest were razed to the ground IN A TIME OF PEACE!. After the rubble had been swept away, in its place, Ceausescu and tens of thousands of willing Romanian replaced the historic city center with the monstrosity known as "The Palace of Parliament".
If Romanians are willing to do this to their own capital city, then of course they're willing to destroy Hungarian culture in Transylvania.
>>79133220
Austria can't join the Habsburg Monarchy because they will already be joining the Großdeutsches Reich.
>>79154498
>Football, implying I give a fuck.
Go waste your money on soccer, our gypsy-jew Orbán shits away the EU gibs to have stadiums build everywhere in the country by his family.
We already disillusioned about socialism, and Orbán got his hide saved by doing the correct response to the migration wave, keeping them out (reacted too late for my opinion, no crossings should have been allowed). But nationalism is coming next election, we are ready to nation build, we will be strong again.
>>79154726
Too bad everything in Transylvania has always been Romanian.
>mfw secui shits blame bucharest for their economic failures even tho with all the money they get from budapest they build horthy statues made out of bronze and literally nothing else
btw there's 2 confirmed bozgors posting on /pol/,watch out
>>79154726
>If Romanians are willing to do this to their own capital city, then of course they're willing to destroy Hungarian culture in Transylvania.
>THIS is an argument
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAH
>>79154726
Yes, he did that to our own buildings, it was no discrimination against the magyars.
This was just the way things were done back then
You said it was deliberate in order to get rid of hungarian heritage or whatnot .which is utter nonsense since most if not all historic buildings in Transylvania survive, unlike Bucharest as your picture clearly illustrated.
>>79154792
There are like 5 diaspora. 1 croat, 1 or 2 american, 1 canadian and 1 australian
>>79154726
> monstrosity known as "The Palace of Parliament".
AMERICAN EDUCATION
>>79154885
he's a bozgor
>>79154772
you changed the subject like the sperglord you are.
>>79154696
But you, see, us wanting those territories is like Hungarians wanting Transylvania. It's not gonna happen. The demographic makeup makes it impossible. All we want is Eastern Moldova, and even that was colonized by fucking slavshit Russians, so there would be issues even there. Say we take them - we wouldn't get "russian tourists" because we're NATO, but we sure would get a lot of pissed slavshits wanting to subdue us by any other means.
>>79154726
>destroying old buildings to make space for megalomaniac projects
>he just wants to wipe out cultures of old
?????
>this thread
You guys never learn, do you?
>>79154885
Who/what is bozgor ?
hungarians I get it, but why, what does it mean ?
>>79154772
>But nationalism is coming next election, we are ready to nation build, we will be strong again.
A-are you going to make the goulash extra spicy?
>>79155100
means man without a country.
>>79154726
i think that was the result of the earthquakes that struck bucharest,most buildings had to be rebuilt
most,if not alll those fancy old buildings were made by germans in the autonomous principality of transylvania under their rule and the commieblocks were made by romanians to accomodate the ever-growing population
if anything,transylvania should be given to germans,not hungarians,but we know that's never going to happen :&)
>>79155100
an archaic word from boshkor ultimately leading to bashkirs, the ethnic composition of magyars(madjars).Today it came to mean "nomad/people without country" and its used as a derogative word for hungarians.
I think Romanians are just upset that they will (initially, at least) only have a "junior" or "provisional" status in Habsburg 2.0
>>79155000
>The demographic makeup makes it impossible.
>but we sure would get a lot of pissed slavshits wanting to subdue us by any other means.
You could always ethnically cleanse by expulsion to core Ukraine (on the Dnieper river) or Russia.
>>79154726
Also, ALSO - two of those pictures are from the '77 earthquake you motherfucking liar
>>79155156
>if anything,transylvania should be given to germans,not hungarians
Transylvania is already at its rightfull historical owners you mongrel german.
>>79155100
it means ''man without country'', from slavic
boz- without( like bez)
gor- city (like gorod)
>>79133220
Prfff, without Germans is just shit-tier.
>>79155263
it does not come from slavic , its a proper word.
http://www.ziaristionline.ro/2014/09/16/bozgor-un-vechi-nume-etnic-adus-de-pe-volga-originea-ungurilor-studiu/
>>79147513
You are about right. I don't know the exact date neither, but it was more likely in the 18th century, after the Rákóczi' rebellion in Hungary.
>>79155156
>germans
see >>79153418
>>79155241
>You could always ethnically cleanse by expulsion to core Ukraine (on the Dnieper river) or Russia.
But that is literally impossible in the current year.
Even a peaceful population exchange would be frowned upon.
>>79155263
>>79155211
>>79155148
Ah, ty
>>79155318
>But that is literally impossible in the current year.
I'm not saying in the current year but in the future when/if Ukraine disintegrates militarily or economically. Never say never.
>>79155156
>i think that was the result of the earthquakes that struck bucharest,most buildings had to be rebuilt
Oh, it was an "earthquake" now. Is that earthquake with or without "air quotes" ?
>>79155438
https://www.google.ro/search?q=cutremur+din+77&oq=cutremur+din+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4329j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
shut the fuck up you dipshit diaspora
>>79155489
Don't reply to that pathetic bozgor anymore he's trying too hard.
>>79155573
>Don't reply to that pathetic bozgor anymore he's trying too hard.
Dude, I'm a Burger all the way.
>>79154971
You have by the numbers more military vehicles, and troops, but military vehicles can be bought almost overnight, and troops can be conscripted when needed. One can mostly speculate what would happen in a time of war, but considering the high unemployment numbers, especially with youth, it would not be a problem to fill up our army, the general production would not be interrupted. And we do have plenty of factories, many empty, in case war production is needed, also got friends, who we can buy equipment from, quickly.
We could held you off long enough to ready a counter offensive, we could fuck up your infrastructure with a few well places rockets into your nuclear reactor, we could activate secret service to sabotage your country in many places. And it is not above us to pull out bioweapons against you, especially if your country will be considered the aggressor.
In case we would have the backing of allies, we would show up for our territorial claim, but that is future, and it will not happen overnight, many of the equipment in both of our armies now will be retired by then.
How long do you think you will keep your Mig21-s in service, our your T72-s, these should be retired after 20years most, you may have given them 5-10 years with big repairs, but those will be gone in a few years, can your country afford new ones? How are your IMF debts going?
>>79133220
I don't know mang
I don't want to accept any death cultists from my tolerant northern neighbour
>>79133220
the habsburg family died with Maria Theresa, they got cucked
>>79155683
>How are your IMF debts going?
Those are literally the spawn of satan if you aren't careful.
>>79155683
Stupid mongrel stop dreaming.Your country has the weakest european army by far and you could barely hold a few refugees(you need help from neighbors because you had very few soldeirs and no tanks))You are not even an opponent for us.
>>79152469
>numbers
Why were they so good. They were so fucking good. Literally they were able to destroy anything with smaller forces. There is even a song about 40k germongs fighting 1k of polish soldiers and not destroying them in one day. Looks like God won't save the queen, but will save Poles for sure.
>>79155683
You literally don't understand what war is. As we have the numbers, the weapons, the military vehicles,and more recently a rocket shield, we would literally destroy you country in less than 7 days.Our tanks would literally roll all the way to budapest, without facing any opposition.You would't have any time to buy tanks or train soldiers mate.
>>79154453
You fuckers giving away romanian passport to any villager who can barely speak moldovan here in Bessarabia. We know what your doing, suckers
>>79155683
Because enrolling bozgors overnight are just as efficient than soldiers which have been trained for years. We destroyed you when you actually have a good military that was just as big as ours.
>>79155907
hello polish plumber.Remember when Stephen the Great owned Poland and even took 80k polish prisoners?
>>79156063
there is no such thing as moldovan language, its a dialect of romanian.And R.Moldova will soon become Romania, as it should have been from start.
>>79156063
Who the fuck is hiding the fact that Romania wants Moldova and considers "Moldovans" as Romanians?
>>79156063
>moldovan """language""
but all moldovans from basarabia know romanian,even russians and ukrainians can get romanian passport to travel to EU
>>79156216
Moldoveans want it more than us. Annexing them would fuck our economy a little.
>>79156189
>polish
Not.
Also
>outcome of the war
Also
>Vienna
Also
>poles and a fucking leafs saved this country with their plane skills
Also
>the song
https://youtu.be/epeQwq-aYV0
>>79155907
Y'know, there was a battle where about one hundred of XVII century noble rednecks attacked what they presumed was 50 Swedish mercenaries camping in forest near their lands.
The fact that instead of fighting 2 to 1 they fought 1 to 4 only came up when pursuit after fleeing enemies brought back more captives than there should be enemies at all.
