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Girls undergo puberty from ages 10 to 14.
>12 is legal in Mexico, Angola, and the fucking Vatican City as little as three years ago
>13 is legal in Japan, Argentina
>14 is legal in Austria, Germany, Portugal, Italy, Brazil, Peru, Paraguay, Ecuador, Colombia
>15 is legal in France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Greece, Poland, Honduras, Ethiopia
>16-18 in the United States of America

If I, as a twenty-year-old American man, were to have sex with a sixteen-year-old girl in South Dakota, I would be fine. If I were to drive a mile north and have sex with that same girl in North Dakota, I would go to prison and my life would be ruined forever. If my friend Hans had sex with a girl in Germany and then had sex with her in France, the same thing would happen. In what world is this fair?

We need a universal age of consent. What should it be?
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OUTSIDE, in the garden, it was playtime. Naked in the warm June sunshine, six or seven hundred little boys and girls were running with shrill yells over the lawns, or playing ball games, or squatting silently in twos and threes among the flowering shrubs. The roses were in bloom, two nightingales soliloquized in the boskage, a cuckoo was just going out of tune among the lime trees. The air was drowsy with the murmur of bees and helicopters.

The Director and his students stood for a short time watching a game of Centrifugal Bumble-puppy. Twenty children were grouped in a circle round a chrome steel tower. A ball thrown up so as to land on the platform at the top of the tower rolled down into the interior, fell on a rapidly revolving disk, was hurled through one or other of the numerous apertures pierced in the cylindrical casing, and had to be caught.

"Strange," mused the Director, as they turned away, "strange to think that even in Our Ford's day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption. It's madness. Nowadays the Controllers won't approve of any new game unless it can be shown that it requires at least as much apparatus as the most complicated of existing games." He interrupted himself.
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16 i guess, that sounds pretty good
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"That's a charming little group," he said, pointing.

In a little grassy bay between tall clumps of Mediterranean heather, two children, a little boy of about seven and a little girl who might have been a year older, were playing, very gravely and with all the focussed attention of scientists intent on a labour of discovery, a rudimentary sexual game.

"Charming, charming!" the D.H.C. repeated sentimentally.

"Charming," the boys politely agreed. But their smile was rather patronizing. They had put aside similar childish amusements too recently to be able to watch them now without a touch of contempt. Charming? but it was just a pair of kids fooling about; that was all. Just kids.

"I always think," the Director was continuing in the same rather maudlin tone, when he was interrupted by a loud boo-hooing.

From a neighbouring shrubbery emerged a nurse, leading by the hand a small boy, who howled as he went. An anxious-looking little girl trotted at her heels.

"What's the matter?" asked the Director.
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The nurse shrugged her shoulders. "Nothing much," she answered. "It's just that this little boy seems rather reluctant to join in the ordinary erotic play. I'd noticed it once or twice before. And now again to-day. He started yelling just now …"

"Honestly," put in the anxious-looking little girl, "I didn't mean to hurt him or anything. Honestly."

"Of course you didn't, dear," said the nurse reassuringly. "And so," she went on, turning back to the Director, "I'm taking him in to see the Assistant Superintendent of Psychology. Just to see if anything's at all abnormal."

"Quite right," said the Director. "Take him in. You stay here, little girl," he added, as the nurse moved away with her still howling charge.

"What's your name?"

"Polly Trotsky."

"And a very good name too," said the Director. "Run away now and see if you can find some other little boy to play with."

The child scampered off into the bushes and was lost to sight.

"Exquisite little creature!" said the Director, looking after her. Then, turning to his students, "What I'm going to tell you now," he said, "may sound incredible. But then, when you're not accustomed to history, most facts about the past do sound incredible."

He let out the amazing truth. For a very long period before the time of Our Ford, and even for some generations afterwards, erotic play between children had been regarded as abnormal (there was a roar of laughter); and not only abnormal, actually immoral (no!): and had therefore been rigorously suppressed.

A look of astonished incredulity appeared on the faces of his listeners. Poor little kids not allowed to amuse themselves? They could not believe it.
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"Even adolescents," the D.H.C. was saying, "even adolescents like yourselves …"

"Not possible!"

"Barring a little surreptitious auto-erotism and homosexuality–absolutely nothing."

"Nothing?"

"In most cases, till they were over twenty years old."

"Twenty years old?" echoed the students in a chorus of loud disbelief.

"Twenty," the Director repeated. "I told you that you'd find it incredible."

"But what happened?" they asked. "What were the results?"

"The results were terrible." A deep resonant voice broke startlingly into the dialogue.

They looked around. On the fringe of the little group stood a stranger–a man of middle height, black-haired, with a hooked nose, full red lips, eyes very piercing and dark. "Terrible," he repeated.

The D.H.C. had at that moment sat down on one of the steel and rubber benches conveniently scattered through the gardens; but at the sight of the stranger, he sprang to his feet and darted forward, his hand outstretched, smiling with all his teeth, effusive.
BRAVE NEW WORLD

by

Aldous Huxley
(1894-1963)

Chapter 3
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16 is the best number.
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>>78342020
>We need a universal age of consent.

No, we don't need "universal" laws schlomo, now fuck of to Israel!
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>>78342020
18
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15
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>>78344571
>t. American businessman who travels to the Philippines every year to fuck twelve-year-old ladyboys
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We don't need universal anything you globalist fuck.
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>>78342020

18 by default, 16 with parental consent. It doesn't make sense to allow sex/marriage when kids are still in school.

Under 18 and without parental consent it's statutory rape if the older party is more than 2 years older. Otherwise it's a misdemeanor.

Fuck your supposed impossibility of keeping kids chaste. Our society is not setup to let people set up a household at young age, sex belongs primarily inside marriage and that's what the law should be set up for. Not physical sexual maturity and weak minds.

If the upper age for compulsory schooling is lowered to 14, with emancipation/driving/drinking at 16, you could drop the above ages to 16/14.
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>>78342020
>What should it be?
first period
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I disagree that the age of consent should be universal between countries, because a lot of times children of different ages can be more or less mature depending on the culture. The US should definitely have 1 universal AoC though.
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Will you pedos quit with this whining every goddamn day?

This kind of thing will ruin societies. Women and girls are already over-sexed enough. They become neurotic and depressed because they are encouraged to be sluts.

If you lower the AoC to even younger, it will produce even more mentally stunted women.


Maybe if there was a mass revert to traditionalism there could be younger wives


All you're doing is promoting degeneracy and further societal collapse because your dick gets hard to jailbait and you think it's easier to groom children than pick up women.

Fucking disgusting.
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>>78351889
This
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Why are you people spamming this shit so hard? Get tired of spamming cuck porn?
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>>78342020
18 is a good age. KEK will confirm it.
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>>78342020
>browses pol
>not a virgin
Stop making up scenarios that will never happen
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Girls shouldn't be having sex or giving birth until they're at least 19-20 overall

But for purely health reasons they shouldn't until they're 16-17
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The last two digits of my post becomes the universal age of consent
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>Kids can have gender reassignment surgery
>Still can't consent to sex

It's this way becasue woman know the second it's legal/acceptable to fuck 14 year olds any of them over 25 will be obsolete.
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>>78353801
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>>78353801
Age on the clock, old enough for the cock.
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There shouldn't be an universal age of consent, or even a fixed one. It should depend on the sexual developpment of each individual. If their bodies are fit to breed, then they are fit to consent, period.

Although I don't really care either way, but I feel age of consent is a feminazi concept intended to criminalize men whatever they do, and should probably be abolished altogether.
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>>78353801
Excellent
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>>78342020
let's start from the beginning.

What evidence is there that adults can give consent? The divorce rates? The mortgage crisis? Consent forms? Global climate change?

I sincerely doubt there is any evidence pointing to humans ever being rational in their entire fucking lives.

Without any evidence that the phenomena of "rational humans making rational decisions", i must assume that, like how arabs treat women, it is merely a convenience to control children.

That'd be fine, if kids couldn't get sex offender charges for sending pictures of themselves to their boyfriend/girlfriend. That's the sign that the system is broken.
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>>78343531
How strange to read this again.

I read this book when I was eight years old and found it oddly erotic at the time.
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>>78353801
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if both parties are between 13 and 16 then its fine

but if one party is over 16 then the other party should be at least 16
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>>78342020
Just don't fuck people underr 18 and you're good for sure. This is really not that big of a problem.
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>>78342020

Was 14 here till 2008

Thanks Harper
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>>78354170
Also, if people under 16 cannot give "consent", then how is it fair to put them through high school at that time? Do they not need to make choices there that will affect them for the rest of their lives?

How does that make sense? Sex is more complicated than your future? You can ruin your life more easily by sleeping with an older person than by not giving a shit about high school?
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>>78353801
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>78354170

> That'd be fine, if kids couldn't get sex offender charges for sending pictures of themselves to their boyfriend/girlfriend. That's the sign that the system is broken.

It shouldn't be a crime, but I have no problem with that being a misdemeanor. Keep your dick in your pants/hands till you're old enough to be a full citizen, until then your parents and the state run your life.
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>>78342020

2D is ok. 3D lolis are degenerate.
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>>78342020

You see this insanity on Dr.Phil, he'll berate a female for having sex with a 16yo where the oac is 18, saying a person can't consent and all that bullshit. But then get a women who had sex with a 16yo where the aoc is 16, and oh shit better not say anything bout that!

>Basically American tv "personalities"
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>>78342020
>We need a universal age of consent
No, a girl should be married when her father decides it's time. Any sex outside marriage should be considered rape.
And, fuck, that film is shit. Though, admittedly, I didn't watch much after I saw that scene was the opening scene but still. How can you move a big climactic svenr to being the opening scene? Fuck that film. And fuck Being There too, the ending of that film sucks.
And the girl wad too old, like 15. What the fuck?
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>>78344324
>>78344027
>>78343834
Underappreciated post.
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Yeah we need a universal age of consent

None
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>>78353801
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>>78342020

You also forgot to mention that yes 12 and 13 are legal for Mexico (and friends) and Japan (and friends) but that only applies if you're below 18. You can't be some 45 year old fat greasy fuck and then bang some kid and the authorities will be like "yeah okay thats fine"

But the age of consent should be 18 if you're above 18 and 12 if you're below 18, cause kids are stupid.
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In my state (VA), AOC is 18.
Statutory rape with minor 15 or older is Class 1 Misdemeanor (same as being caught with Marijuana twice).
14 or lower is a felony.
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>>78355481
So then kids should not be held responsible for their grades in high school?

Aren't they though?
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>sex with a 14 year old is ok
>having a nude picture of a 17 year old is not
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>>78353801
BABY FUCK BABY FUCK

IT'S AWWWWRIGHT
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>>78357034
what the fuck is that thing
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>>78352479
this to be honest families
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>>78357863
a vampire
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>>78342020
>We need a universal age of consent

No we don't faggot

It's 15 here, seems like a good age to me. Some sort of "close-in-age" law to prevent creepy 30+ y/o from chasing highschoolers might be a good idea though
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In Italy law speaks clearly that age of consent is 14 or 13 with parents' consent. I think this is a good law. Do you agree?

Are you jelly, 'muricans?
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>>78358829
sweden yes!
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>>78343531
People often forget exactly what this book teaches us. "Brave new world" for all you uncultured retards.
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>>78357034
>Chilean intellectual too stupid to comprehend why pornography and sex might require separate age limits

>>78359042
Holy shit what a funny comment, I nearly fell out of my chair leaf!
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Nah.

There should be an application for "independence," which certifies that a person is competent to make decisions for his/herself. For contracts, criminal law, employment, sex, and all other things dividing "minors" and "adults." It should be a test of competence.
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>>78342020
My opinion on age of consent:
>13, repulsive if you're 25 or something
>14, very iffy
>15, alright
>16, 100% ok
>17 and not legal? what are you doing nigger
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High school girls are so sexy, I'm only 19 but they are so easy to pick up and shag, especially in the UK.

I'd still want to shag them when I'm 30 I reckon, they are just more ripe and blossoming into women.

All the ancestors preferred this age for breeding females but now the libcucks are fucking everything up.
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>12 is legal in Vatican City as little as three years ago
Source
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>>78342020
When woman reach self sufficiency enough to leave parent's house without leeching another male.
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>>78356701

They'll be held however the parents/state want them to be held. They might be held over a knee with a paddle on their ass for example.
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>>78359732
You, as an american, are pretty good to contractualize sex and relationships, aren't you? Have you got forms in your bedroom? Do you cum over a shiny white test every night?
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>>78342020
Little detail about France, the age of consent only applies to an adult having sex with a minor.

It means that a 17 y-o guy can legally fuck a 12 y-o girl.
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>>78360067

Conservashits don't approve either, don't turn your degeneracy into some badge of honor in a war against liberalism.

You're supposed to marry them and stay monogamous.
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>>78360102
>When woman reach self sufficiency
She shouldn't do that. She should be married and have a husband to provide for her. Women shouldn't have jobs.
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>>78342020
Yea, zero.
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>>78360917
Who says that? Poligamy is now legal in Italy. Get back on the track bro.
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>>78342020

Who cares what the age of consent is when you can't get laid anyway
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>>78360917
This
>>78360067
You're as bad as a feminist, fucking girls and making them sluts. You should be ashamed.
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>>78360503
Same here. Vive la France, Vive la liberté!
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>>78361384
This man raises a fair point.
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>>78360917
Conservatives and libcucks are the same thing these days, two sides of the same coin.

The world will go back to equilibrium soon though, I'm sure of it. Evolution will wipe these weaklings out hopefully.
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>>78361446
Girls are for breeding and being mothers. it's literally what nature intended for them.

Argue it all you want but it's true.
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>>78342020
>If she can bleed she can breed
Over 13-14 yo AOC this days is mostly because of old hags feminazis
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18. Below this age, daughters are their parents' property and should require parental consent in addition to their own consent.

Anyone who disagrees is a pedophile.
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>>78361163

Salam alaikum my friend :(
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LIFE ISN'T FAIR, DEAL WITH IT FAGGOT

HILLARY CLINTON IS LIVING PROOF THAT CHEATING IS THE BEST WAY TO GET AHEAD. JUST FUCK THE GIRL IN SOUTH DAKOTA OR FUCK YOUR HAND
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>>78343531
Count Douku would have been perfect for this role

But saddly he is kill
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>>78360503
That's the same as in the United States and just about everywhere else...
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>>78342020
What the fuck kind of picture is that? Oh yes goyim. The left side of the cunt is droopier too just like your bag aha
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>>78362389
>property
Spot the kike
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>>78342020
You are pedo scum and I hope you die before you can harm a child with your degenerate fantasies and self deluded justification for "I should be able to fuck her or him/it (who the fuck knows these days) because they hit puberty and it's legal in some countries don't be hating on my sexual identity you cis binary bigot"
You sickest of fucks prey on children for fucks sake, who should be able to enjoy life innocent and unmolested and you want to legalize it. Fuck you to hell, you're soul, your body, your everything. You disgusting weak little bitchfag.
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>>78342020
how about we just dont fucking have an age of consent and leave it up to the parents to keep their kids from getting diddled by 40 year old neckbeards
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>>78362100
I'm not arguing that. Yes, girls should be married and start making babby young. But you hat you do, fucking them and making them sluts is bad. Girls shouldn't be sluts, they should be good loyal wives.
>>78362982
That's a lolipop, you pervert.
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>>78363296
some parents are retarded and would sell their kids for couple shekels
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>>78358829

>We have implemented a new form of security on our website. Please click the link below to reset your password.


Of course you would say that sweden. No mention of blocking of borders and deporting all the shitskins and niggers so that rape goes down by 100%. You sicken me, you filthy cuck
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>>78342020
>12 is legal in Mexico, Angola, and the fucking Vatican City as little as three years ago

What kind of drugs are these people smoking.
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>>78363230
>16
>muh child
>muh DEGENERACY
You're beyond deluded. Also nobody said shit about molesting you stupid fuck.
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>>78342020
>10-14
Try 9-14
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>>78363589
Yes. With extra left sided drippiness
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>>78351889
>Under 18 and without parental consent it's statutory rape if the older party is more than 2 years older.
Rape should be rape regardless of age.
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>>78363230
>12 is legal in Vatican City as little as three years ago

Catholics are pedo scum and I hope they die before they can harm a child with their degenerate fantasies and self deluded justification for "I should be able to fuck her or him because they hit puberty and it's legal in some countries don't be hating on my sexual identity you protestant bigot"

They are the sickest of fucks who prey on children for fucks sake, who should be able to enjoy life innocent and unmolested and they want to legalize it. Fuck them to hell, their soul, their body, their everything. You disgusting weak little papistfag.
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>>78353801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XYURcmtzA
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>>78363296
M8, girls these days want the D at 13 years old, there's nothing parents can do to prevent that.
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>>78364238
proof?
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>>78342020
It's 18 in India.
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>>78365186
>india having more moral standards then mexico.

I am impressed you still shit in streets sadly.
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I initially thought that lowering the age of consent was dangerous and morally wrong, but then I thought about what age I was able to consent to sex and came up with 14. I am not an expert on adolescent sexuality or cognitive development, so I can only speak for myself and add a data point.

A word of advice to my fellow anons, be careful where, when, and to whom you talk about things like the age of consent. It shouldn't be a taboo subject, but plenty of people will twist your words and attack your character. Hell, many feminists attack men for dating a few years younger than them even when the woman is like 35. They are twisted, twisted people who don't even believe in consent. Everyone is cognitively handicapped by power relations.
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>>78363775
That's biblical law age. Age of puberty.
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If someone can consent to sex, that person decides who he or she has sex with. Not you. Not the government.
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>>78363770
shut up leaf nigger
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>>78365186
you lot just gangrape them at will anyway.
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>>78342020
I think an age of consent of 14 is fine.
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I agree, if I killed someone in somalia I wouldnt have gone to jail where is the logic in this? Just because that guy was in Brazil I got my life ruined?
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>>78367068
>biblical law

we Sharia now
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>>78364182

Fine, call it prohibited sexual activity then.
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>>78342020
16 without restrictions. 13-15 if you're within 5 years. If you're not within 5 years it's a misdemeanor with a heavy fine. After 3 misdemeanors it's an automatic 10 years in prison.
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>>78363901
>Try 9-14
>tfw best friend's wife apparently had her first period at 8
>that was 20 years ago

All the growth hormones in everything we eat will probably push puberty even lower before too long, since plenty of people don't even know how to cook.
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>>78342020

No it wouldn't, you idiot, because you wouldn't make this shit public. These laws are pointless. You can find plenty of willing partners online, as long as you aren't too damn old. Younger girls find adult men to be very appealing. You can easily get a 13-15 year old as a 20 something.

Just don't get fucking caught, you moron.
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>>78342020
1 year above your age constantly updated till the day you die.
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Someone should do a scientifically valid poll that asks when you felt you could consent to sex. Only ask people about themselves. Set the age of consent to where 90% of persons' self reported ages of consent are covered.

Does this seem reasonable?
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When did you anons first wanted to fuck someone? Speak the truth.
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((((universal))))
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>>78342020
Nice disinformation, the legal age here is 18, degenerate
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16 should be the legal norm and "half your age plus 7" should be the social norm.

Pedos fuck off.

/thread
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>>78372350
as if that matters
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>>78372683
Half your age + 7 was created by feminists in their 60's or older.

If you can decide to have sex, you can decide who to have sex with. Who cares what other people do?
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>>78373445
If Strossner was alive this shits wouldn't happen
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>>78342020
>12 is legal in Mexico
... huh... well... I should be headed home now... for sleep
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There should be no age of consent. Marriage is the determinating factor, and the parents get to decide when their daughter is old enough for that.
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>>78375591
T.Ahmed
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"age of consent" = father's permission
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>>78342020
one of those variable ages of consent starting at 15, with full maturity at 18 obviously.

regardless if girls undergo puberty or not, shit, males might too, I started having some hair on my balls at 12, I was not a man.

besides when you make the age of consent open, i mean, why would you? but you're making it legal for people to be predators, even if it's consensual the mental maturity isn't there, the bullshit indicators aren't calibrated, still impressionable, and ready to be ruined for life by some late 30s creep with a honda and a few loose 10$ bills.
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>>78342020
>12 is legal in Mexico, Angola, and the fucking Vatican City as little as three years ago

Believe me its not. If you are above 20´s and fuck a young teenager you can go to jail if their parents knew.
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>>78349547

Only good post here.
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Any barrier below 18 should be legal only for people below 18. A lower AoC shouldn't be used to encourage paedos.
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>Implying i care about consent
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>>78342020
I AGREE

Tfw I wanna fuck a qt 16 year old but am 20

I could pull it off, but it would need Hella work
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>>78343531
Wow, identified it on the first line. I'm chuffed.
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I think the half your age +7 years rule should become law up until you turn 25, then everyone the same age and older is free game.
Example, say you're 20 years old, the youngest person you could have sex with is 17 and the oldest is 26. So that becomes your dating range. Someone who is 13 years old would only be allowed to have sex with other 13 year olds, and everyone 12 and under is not allowed to have sex.

Anything else besides this is complete degeneracy and possible pedophilia.
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>Once upon a time when I was like 15/16 I had sex with a 13-year-old by mistake

Part of me feels guilty, the other part of me doesn't. I'm like 25 now so there's no way in hell I'm doing that again anytime soon.
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>>78347175
rare
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>>78379801
its not rare you stupid faggot. faroese niggers post every single day. lurk moar
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>>78342020
There should be no age of consent. The whole concept is stupid
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>>78380886
Pedoshit detected
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>>78342020
>13 is legal in Japan.

For other 13 year olds, you fucking idiot.

I grew up there, and 18 year olds still aren't allowed to touch anyone under 18. At least try to make your bullshit believable.
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>>78342020
Don't come to North Dakota
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16 sounds good. but, if it were my decision i would sterilize anyone with autism, black syndrome, and down syndrome
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>>78381148
Like how the fuck does being one day older suddenly makes you magically able to have sex?
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