It is with great regret that I must warn other Trump supporters with this revelation I've had after redpilling hard the past few days.
Trump is a government plant to get the real evil dictator Hillary Clinton elected president. I'm not entirely sure whether he is in on it or if he is simply being used, but one things for sure. The entire establishment will stop at nothing to make sure she is in power.
Allow me to break down the evidence for the inevitable naysayers here who are likely to ironically bombard me with cuckisms.
>Trumps campaign isn't spending or getting donor funding since the end of the primaries
I don't think I need to explain why this is a red flag but since someone will probably call me a faggot cuck for this and everything else I will explain. YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SPENDING. Media and propaganda are everything in American politics and without the money to do so, people will be brainwashed by the other candidate through negative ads/media buys and general costly campaigning. If trump were serious about winning, wouldnt he at the very least have a PAC or donor funding of some sort? Saying he doesn't need it doesn't fly so don't even bother.
>Trump has deep ties to the Clinton family
There are numerous bits of evidence that Trump is best friends with the Clintons from wedding and golf photos to tweets from only FOUR YEARS AGO praising the Clintons. It is essentially undeniable that trump was friends with Clintons at least this short of a time ago. He is also connected to other establishment insiders such as Rudy Giuliani. To simply dismiss this as being innocently part of the "rich and powerful" club is naive as fuck.
>Trump has deployed political strategies that are intentionally good for the primaries but terrible for the general election
I know a lot of people here dismiss the Mexico thing, but believe me when I say this. It was meant to gain votes from the larger part of the republican base to win the candidacy and to lose votes from identity groupthink politics brainwashed masses in the general election. The Obama coronation was structured the much the same way. Get minorities to only have one "reasonable" choice and shame those that "turn their backs on their own people". It worked in the last two elections. What makes you think that's not what they/trump are doing now? Latino support for trump is an illusion statistically, the reality is he will lose the Latino vote to Hillary in the general especially as more propaganda is bought.
>His Hillary attacks are weak
Why isn't Trump focusing more on Hillary being the establishment candidate that he isn't? He doesn't even mention the Clinton Foundation corruption or the fact that she skates on everything an average American would be locked up for life for doing. If he really cared about coercing bernouts to join up then why isn't he focusing more on the fact that she is pro TPP and he isn't and so forth?
>Trump was a character on reality TV
One of the fakest things that the American masses drone to is directly connected to Trump. It is clear that reality TV is used for social engineering and spreading propaganda. If you were to look back on all the successful reality shows from the recent past there's really only one with an iconic "bad guy" character. If he wasnt chosen because of this, then it's one hell of a coincidence.
>>78160109
No, Trump is simply very butthurt. He felt insulted by the leaders of the Republican Party when back in 2008 (I think it was) he was rebuffed from any attempt to be a presidential candidate. This is why he got so mad at Obama and went with the nutcase birther stuff.
Now his sole goal is to bring down the Republican Party from the inside. He's mad at the establishment that rejected him, so now he's mobilizing a beta uprising of the "poorly educated" to fulminate their rage and express anti-establishment hatred toward Washington orthodoxies. He does even have proper political positions -- he's just doing a Samson and trying to bring the whole temple down on top of him and everyone else inside.
>Its just all too convenient/fishy/likely
The establishment has coronated her years ago, and top donors who typically donate to republicans are switching to the dems for Clinton. They want Clinton in power because she does favors for anyone willing to throw cash at her. If you don't think the illuminati would devise such a plot then you are blind. Big money is abandoning the Republican Party because the dems have been so successful at brainwashing the SJW loving masses that the masters are seeing them in a new light, since they are now a center right party. Everything is just too perfect for this not to be true, seeing that most people can't stand the bitch and would only vote for her to beat a "bad guy" or "threat". Trumps candidacy is nothing more than typical establishment fear tactics. Trump supporters, conservatives, libertarians and working class citizens of all types; WAKE THE FUCK UP. Supporting trump is helping Clinton. Go ahead and commence with cuck posts, anyone supporting trump after swallowing this red pill deserves what they get when the bitch cunt dictator takes over.
GARY JOHNSON 2016
>its a trump is actually a Hillary plant episode
>>78160477
You might be right, he might not even be "in on it" so to speak. But if you don't think he was helped by the establishment bought media to win the primaries and lose the general, then you haven't been paying attention to govt. propaganda and media corruption for the past 20 years. More evidence points to him playing along, so it's more likely that he is a complete and total fraud.
DELETE THIS: The Thread
>>78160109
Idk how this is news to you. Every fucking election is rigged. Since, like, Lincoln.
Eat poo and die for being this stupid.
I suppose you didn't see the speech he made today on Hillary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUW2-MUonbo
It was a good speech, while I admit it still held back on a 40 year legacy of serious criminality and scandals, it's a start and he's openly beginning to paint her picture.
>>78160109
I am a stalwart Trump supporter, and these thoughts have crossed my mind, but I am unwavering in my resolve. I would literally vote for Malcom X before I would vote for Hillary. Any vote not for Trump is an indirect vote for Hillary.
I cannot stress this enough, Hillary would be the KO after 8 years of "Take America Down a Peg or Two". Supreme court appointments, trade legislation, simmering multi-continent conflicts, domestic policy....its too important to let her have it.
Pic related, it was the moment I decided that its Trump or destruction. You can't be the President if you are that flippant with intentionally circumventing FOIA to hide the influence exchange you setup between your State department and charity foundation. Shame on anyone who thinks Trump is the worse evil in this election.
Wow, really makes you think
>it's another Trump is a Hillary plant episode
You people really have nothing better?
>>78162732
but what about muh landslides?
>>78163350
Place your mouth directly under your butt and push.
Landslide.
Also:
LETS BUILD A WALL!
so dumb.. They tunnel to America already, you know? Also, airplanes, jetpacks and catapults, etc etc. Fuck my countries gullibility because let me tell you: shit trickles.
This is very clearly a shill.
>"...after red-pilling hard the past few days."
There is no regular /pol/ poster who would use that particular phrase. This poster is clearly new, and obviously a shill.
>>78163137
Johnson can win. He is already polling high enough to be in the debates and hardly anyone even knows who he is yet. Once people realize there is a third option that doesn't have unfavorability ratings through the roof, they are going to consider voting independent for the first time ever. This is the election we can beat the two party plutocracy at their own game in. They fucked up by giving two options that are unfavorable to most voters. If Trump was real, I would be supporting him as well, but with all this evidence I simply cannot believe it any longer. Gary Johnson is pretty close to a perfect libertarian to be the first in the White House. It's what this country needs really. He is ten times the legit libertarian that Ron Paul was.
>>78163837
>A shill denouncing BOTH candidates. Bout time the fuckers got something right.
>>78160109
Trump was friend with lots of people, hes a business man, it's his job to be friends with people
>>78164000
>Johnson can win.
And the plot thickens.
You have no idea if Trump is real or not, but you've got no other choice anyway. At least he's running on populist policies the country needs.
If you think our next president is going to be Gary Johnson, you're thwacked out of your skull.
@78160109
>other Trump supporters
But you're not a Trump supporter, you're a shill, and not a very good one.
>>78164000
>libertardians are genuinely this delusional
Wow, really makes you think....
?
trumpert's speech today absolutely hammered on hillary and clinton corruption in general, which just about goes against everything you've posted
>Hillary's master plan to steal the election was to get the one man with views significantly different to hers nominated for the Republicans instead of letting Yeb! win and then annihilating him in the general
I've never heard a good argument for this
>>78160109
>Latino support is an illusion statistically.
Tell that to the naturalized American latinos living in border towns that actually see what comes across every day and are utterly terrified.
Illegals staging riots, waving Mexican flags and altogether disrupting the American political process is not a barometer for the sentiments of this demographic. Neither are your cooked statistics.
Wow, really makes you think.
>>78164338
>>78164361
Its not just the voters who will play a role in Johnson's support. Once the donors see that he is gaining support after the first debate, they'll switch from Clinton to him because he is a bigger supporter of deregulation and is generally more favorable to business than Clinton's policy. The only reason libertarians were laughed off in the past is that republicans were worried they were going to split the conservative vote. That doesn't apply in this election, especially since many past republican donors are worried about trumps economic policy and most either privately or publicly are backing a democrat this election.
>>78160109
>dont vote for trump because it will only get hillary more votes
literally shill yourself
>>78164138
no you see its not. he is saying dont vote for trump if you hate hillary.
it means 1 less vote fro trump. its still shilling for hillary by removing trump votes
>>78164890
thats because you are correct. its a retarded premise because if it was jeb, either hillary would win or jeb and the dynasty of merica would continue
Nice shill thread faggot.
sage
>>78165473
Why would those donors be in favor of deregulation and smaller government? Corporations are the biggest welfare queens in the country.
>>78165516
>>78165679
Being this entrenched in two party "vote against the other" thinking. Can't you see that they have the country completely cucked by this?
>>78165473
Put the Johnson 2016 bumper sticker on your car and be done with it.
There is no room in the psyche of the US people for a third party candidate, nor is the media ever going to open the airwaves for him.
>>78165244
Naturalized Latino here.
Lived in El Paso.
I know trump is full of shit and I know that his wall plan will be utterly inneffective.
You don't speak for us you idiot.
What WILL stop cartel and drug violence is a revamp of Americas drug laws and prison systems.
If there is a buyer there will ALWAYS be a seller.
If mexico was glassed this instant, china and the the rest of latin america would be the first ones to meet american drug addict needs.
Nothing would change.
How's about we first fix our populations massive drug problem first?
>>78164000
Nice trips, but you are wrong friend even though you have the best intentions in mind.
It would be nice if a filet mignon was the 3rd option to the choice between the two shit sandwiches we have now, but its not the case. It might be the biggest turnout for an independent this year ever, but not enough to take it from the two party system.
I like Trump for a multitude of reasons, but he wasn't my first choice. I wouldnt say he's the best for the country, but certainly the best remaining choice. He has my vote, and he would have to be caught red handed jerking off onto the Constitution and then selling it on ebay for money to make a LGBT youth indoctrination camp for him to lose it.
>Trump is a government plant to get the real evil dictator Hillary Clinton elected president.
This was pretty obvious a year ago. Trump's whole purpose was to split the Rep. vote so that a real candidate isn't nominated.
Honest question:
Are y'all pulling my leg by taking any of these candidates seriously, ever? I get holding the crimson tide at bay, but of all the ideas of what a man is, in all the ways a man can be a man, Trump just takes the fucking cake huh?
> but, buuut, keep Hilary from office
So what? So that Trump can come in and do the same exact fucking things as ANY other Pres has done? (War, expanding government, etc.)
You have a serious rift between the people of America, caused by its leaders. These people are on the same team, they don't give two fucks about the promises they make, they know they can't keep them, too much foundation layed for the fuckiness that's ahead, and that's how they planned it. If they hadn't planned it then they would see what a shitfest it all has become (economy, middle East, this huge rift between dick flaying crony capitalists and the mass of overly dependant pushover man children, etc etc) and the serious jeopardy we are in and made some honest moves to prevent it. How much evidence do you need? How shitty does your life need to get before you realize that no matter the gender, race, ideology or religion, these people in power want to stay there and that that means keeping you down? That means feeding you shit. That means galavanting about just for your pleasure. You know the ratings they get with this whole "presidential race" bullshit? They have you eating right out of their hands.
>>78166507
I dated a latina from El Paso once. She was gorgeous. A literature student, dumb as shit, thought parts of the US should be given back to Mexico, even though it's a shithole and that land was paid through conquest and even money.
You don't speak for anyone but yourself either. However, there are many reports from naturalized latinos in border towns such as Hidalgo, etc saying exactly what I've said. They don't want their efforts to assimilate being undermined by thugs. Pretty simple.
But I see you have an agenda here, you obviously like drugs. Nobody was talking about them before you. You know this administration arms the cartels? Our government has worked in direct collusion with these people for decades bringing drugs in. You also don't seem to have a grasp on the fact that we do actually have border patrol in this country and immigration procedures that are being deliberately flanked. Patrol can't do their jobs and the worst are shepherded in.
We can work on the American drug problem once we start enforcing patrols on our Southern border and deporting illegals.
>>78164000
>Johnson can win
No he can't. And when Clinton grants blanket amnesty to 30 million Mexicans who love socialism, libertarianism will be permanently killed in America.
Good job fag.
>>78163837
>>78164138
>>78166184
Daily reminder that #CorrectTheRecord is a thing and Hillary is actively spending money on shills like OP.
Hello you POS shill. Explain how Trump was expressing the same concerns and trade policies in books and interviews decades ago, before he had any desire to run for president?
>>78166820
refute this >>78164890
>>78168160
Yeah, you're right. I am shilling for Clinton so much that I am suggesting that she and the establishment she represents are subverting democracy and rigging the election for her to win. I'm sure I'm convincing a ton of people to like her!
Just face it, they are going to rig the general election votes. Vote for Trump if you support him, but don't be surprised when he loses. I'm just warning the disillusioned so that they are ready for what's coming.
>>78160109
You guys aren't even trying hard anymore.
>>78166966
You can't be old enough to post here. Usually people have grasped this underbelly of the democratic process enough by the time they reach 18 that they don't feel compelled to blather about it as if it's the first time anyone's ever said it.
What OP believes is what I've believed all the time. Trump is just too much of a meme to be real. The 'Build a beautiful wall kek' was the most shameless retarded pandering to non-educated Americans I've heard since the 'hope and change'-magical negro mantra or the 'wooooooorld star' hypnotism that niggers do on youtube.
Sorry to shit on your parade /pol/ but you need to start feeling the Johnson.
Shill thread, plz delete. Welcome to 14 months ago. Trump has been vetted. It's time to stop smoking the dope. Trump is a revolution that defies all odds because the media was 100% against him yet his number were great because people went to the source and stopped getting their info from jewish controlled media outlets. It's time to hang up the tinfoil hat
>>78164338
>Trump might not even be real
>still better than Johnson
U wot
>>78168791
You're shilling for a goober candidate who has zero chance of winning. Go out and show a photo of Gary Johnson on the street and see the taint quivering amount of *literally who's* you get.
I don't think Trump is planted by Hillary but if he was then he wouldn't be acting any differently.
>>78169067
You're the shill, fag.
Lots of people know who Johnson is you fucking retard.
>>78169054
Being aware of the possibility that a candidate may not fulfill their promises once elected does not mean I'm going to vote or even waste my time acknowledging a candidate who has absolutely no chance of winning.
>>78168730
The "final boss" candidate had to be an outsider so it was easier to paint him as a loony fascist. Plus Trump is weak on policy details, which are Clintons only strong points. They strategically picked the candidate who would set the stage for exploitable fear. Fear is always the complacency tactic.
>>78169017
Yea the media was so against him with non-stop daily coverage
Yes, good goy, ignore the fact that the media pushed hard for ted cruz and John kasich and Marco rubio, yesssssss, reject nationalism and the zeitgeist and throw your vote away for a meme candidate, ensuring a Shillary presidency
Trump Flip-Flops
>>78169285
You should spend more time in the real world and less time in cyberspace
>>78169285
Gee Bill! Lotsa people know!
Go outside and ride your bike, you shitty bastard. I don't know what you don't get about the overall psychology of a nation and why the two-party system is so popular. Coke and Pepsi, Chevy and Ford, Microsoft and Apple, Clinton and Trump.
Your frumpy fucking Libertarian candidate just isn't going to cut the mustard, and when he doesn't win, I'll revel my spot behind you in traffic with your shitty weathered Johnson 2016 bumper sticker.
>>78160761
You're so obviously full of shit
>Hey guys, you don't want clinton to win right?
>Well all we have to do is split the republican vote and create a situation where Clinton is certain to win!
>That will show her! #feelthejohnson
fuck off
>>78169381
>Johnson polls in the double digits and can easily pull voters from both sides where neither Clinton or Trump can
H-he has no chance! R-right guys?
>>78160109
Hello everyone Donald J Trump here,
OP is lying let me be the first to tell you I haaaaaate the clintons! Theres no way I would do them any favors! I only do favors for my friends, like real friends who I could feel comfortable inviting to my weddings. Not those slimy clintons, I hate them!
So in conclusion, vote for me, a person who HATES the Clinton's. Lets keep them out of the white house! I haaaaaaaaaate them!
>>78169471
Non stop daily hit pieces, he used the media to his advantage, he has always maintained the idea that bad publicity is better than no publicity since the 80s
The controllers seriously underestimated the fact that Americans are waking up to the semetic lies
>>78169638
Johnson is gonna be on CNN, is that normie enough for you?
>>78169452
>look at me I can spread memes!
>le Trump has no policies
>I've never bothered to check his actual policies
>le fear mongering, everything is fine just enjoy the ride down to the bottom of the sinking ship
I'm convinced Trump is going to win.
Right now we got hilldogs and trumpets who are polarized in views. Trumpets are basically stupid and will vote for Trump no matter what, but there's the middle ground people who dislike both candidates and go to Johnson. American people will never never elect a third party candidate. Middle ground Americans will go for Johnson making a significant impact on voters who vote Hilldog, but Johnson isn't a threat. People are too unaware. At most, he'll get 20% of the vote.
tl;dr Trumpets are more loyal than Hilldogs and the more indecisive Hilldog voters will go to Johnson.
>>78170178
Wow, CNN! SO CREDIBLE AND PRESTIGIOUS, TOTALLY NOT CONTROLLED MEDIA
Surely this is the end for the Trump campaign
>>78169807
>people are generally polarized, that's my whole argument and reasoning!!
>>78170359
Middle ground = milquetoast cowards afraid to take action or a firm stance on anything
>>78166323
>>78169942
>>78169807
>>78169067
>>78166687
Even if the media is reluctant to cover Johnson, he will be in the debates and will smoke Trump and Clinton. After the first debate, the media will have no choice but to cover him. Don't forget, these debates are going to be the most watched debates in history.
Johnson is a mess.
>>78170511
>pshh get off cyberspace, kid
>pshh get off mainstream media
Backpedaling harder than a liberal.
>>78169373
>believing anything republishits say
>>78170637
Or maybe actually decided that deporting all illegals and accepting Mohammad to cuck you are impractical solutions.
>>78170031
The media knew what they were doing. They had their cake and ate it. They could be as anti trump as they wanted while simultaneously giving him billions in free publicity. They know as well as any non brainwashed person that it doesn't matter what angle they gave, there would be millions who would support trump after seeing him on TV nonstop.
I've voted for Johnson before but the stakes are too high this election to not vote Trump. I don't care what anyone says, Johnson doesn't have a chance in hell. Even if Hillary and Trump killed a puppy and raped a baby to death on live TV Johnson would still not win.
>>78170359
>libertarian gets 20%
are you fucking 12 years old
>>78160761
>If you vote for Trump she wins
I see the correct the record Canadian outreach program is moving long nicely.
>>78171162
The fuck is that
>>78170359
Why would Hillary voters default to Johnson? Trump's policies fall more in line with Libertarians.
No one in their right mind would vote for Hillary Clinton. Probably why I've never actually met someone who was voting for her. But I can still make the estimation they're very separated from reality and don't read a damn thing beyond Twitter.
>>78171162
what is this
>>78160109
>Trumps campaign isn't spending or getting donor funding since the end of the primaries
>YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SPENDING.
Worked pretty well in the primaries.
>Trump has deep ties to the Clinton family
This one has been debunked time and time again. If you aren't in public office and can make more money by being close to those that are, you will do it regardless of your political leanings. To not do so is undercutting yourself and your business.
>Trump has deployed political strategies that are intentionally good for the primaries but terrible for the general election
Latinos vote differently than blacks do as blacks and hispanics do not have the same level of grievance culture. To call back to previous election cycles for this particular election is meaningless. Even if Trump had a 20% lead it wouldn't mean shit until the final vote is counted on November. The pundits and political media that has relied so hard on polls in the passed were almost completely wrong when it came to Trump, so why are you being so reliant on it?
>His Hillary attacks are weak
He called her out pretty hard a few hours ago desu familam.
>Trump was a character on reality TV
Nigga...
>Its just all too convenient/fishy/likely
If yo-
>that closing
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAA.
You got me pretty good there OP, thought you were being serious for a bit there.
>>78170318
Idiot. Trump has serious problems on foreign policy details which is a huge weak spot against Clinton. I'm not saying hers is better, I'm saying in a debate it will look like Hillary won on everything because she, her campaign ads, and the media will be spinning every debate to make Trump look clueless because she is "better with specifics". The painted picture will that Trump is unfit to be president because he can't name certain country's leaders etc.
>>78171491
>>78171536
A white girl who had her face eaten by a pitbull.
>>78160109
If Trump is "getting Hillary to win", why is he talking smack on her about all the shit she wants to keep quiet?
>>78171834
She looks awfully happy
>it's a IM A TRUMP SUPPORTER BUT IUM REALLY NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER BUT YOU SHOULD READ WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AND FOLLOW IT CUSS IM A TRUMP SUPPORTER BUT IM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER "VOTE FOR JOHNSON" Episode
>>78160109
Hillary is a trump ad.
>>78172082
aren't you a tough guy
Is it so much harder to believe that Trump was playing them and planning his attack all along than him being a memeber of their secret club? Trump has been planning this for a long time. Over 16 years.
I hope lots of SRS faggots see these webms.
>>78171711
Would you mind elucidating on the serious problems Trump has in his foreign policy details?
I don't think you grasp what sheer level of criminality and psychopathy you're dealing with when it comes to Hillary Clinton. The speech Trump gave today pulled punches, and only grazed a surface of the usual Benghazi, email scandal stuff, which should be sufficient if we didn't live in the Twilight Zone. It was still a good speech, and I linked it in one of the very early posts.
>>78171711
Hmmmm just like Mitt was predicted to win in a landslide because of all his "policy" in the debates instead of Obama's "muh change"?
>>78172185
fuck im so tired of this shit
at this point these videos are like watching paint dry
nothing new and nothing changes
>>78171565
she didn't even flinch
>>78172219
>>78172185
hitler was right
>>78172256
just some Argentinians doing the tango
>>78169942
>I don't know how American politics work
Even if he managed to pull a significant amount from both sides he wouldn't get enough of the electoral college to win because it would be up to the house to then vote which at this point is a Republican win.
>inb4 someone calls this a good thing
No, we already have low voter turnout deciding the future of this country, dividing those people who the president represents even more would be disastrous and result in even more division amongst our already 50/50 country.
>>78166507
>What WILL stop cartel and drug violence is a revamp of Americas drug laws and prison systems.
>If there is a buyer there will ALWAYS be a seller.
and yet somehow the violence in Mexico is the fault of American guns....
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/17/obama-blames-us-guns-in-mexico/
Funny how that works.
It's almost as if Mexicans are incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions and liberals enable their buck shifting incompetence.
Build a fucking wall.
I'm sick of you uppity fucking Mexicans tying your crypto-revanchism to the Hispanic identity, as if we owe you and your shit country loyalty for some reason.
Fuck Mexico.
>>78173036
Even then the electoral college has a choice on whether to vote for the state or for themselves so the popular vote has some merit to it.
>>78160109
>red pilling hard for the past few days
Wtfamireading.mp4
>real evil dictator Hillary Clinton
>>78172525
As I've stated earlier, it isn't about who is actually better on foreign policy but who is vulnerable to the "not enough details" edge that Clinton uses as her main political strategy. Besides the woman card, its the only thing she has to boast about, because she spends hours and hours preparing for debates and press interviews/conferences (which is why she hardly does them). In order to maintain the illusion that she is the most qualified thing to ever grace us with her presence, she memorizes an encyclopedia of political talking points and internalized memo speak.
but where's that image of trump's face as hillary's vagina, though
>>78164000
>We can't trust Trump hes working for Clinton
>vote Johnson
fucking shills man
I don't give a flying fuck about the election and I generally consider Hillary to be an evil, corrupt turbocunt.
I don't care much for the Donald, either. To me, he is just what OP said: A reality TV personality. He's not an actor, but he's a guy who can be given a script and follow it.
Having said that, I've thought from the beginning that Trump was running so that we would elect Hillary. I've had a shit feeling the entire time that she was meant to win.
>>78170704
Johnson supports amnesty
Even if Jeb was the Republican candidate I wouldn't bother voting Johnson out of that simple fact
Johnson polls well NOW because Republicans who are afraid of publicly admitting they'll vote Trump need a guy to stand in for them but not only will they end up voting Trump but the great bulk of people who voted Libertarian in 2012 will also vote Trump because Johnson is too far left to appeal to any of the disaffected people who voted for him in 2012.
>>78173804
But you didn't explain how Trump was weak on his foreign policy. This just seems to fall in line with the "Trump has no policies" meme, which you use to construct your view and advocate a third party candidate who will never win. I've been watching your posts, and it's what I believe is the case. You're deflecting votes from a person who advocates the 2nd amendment, advocated immigration policies on the grounds of national security and public health (7 new illnesses formerly eradicated from the US have been re-introduced thanks to wanton immigration). His policies are entirely Libertarian and there are hoards of them that will vote Trump, yet you want to deflect this attention to a nobody candidate.
>>78166507
>legalize weed
>problem solved
The wall exists to reduce the flow, not stop it completely you useless faggot
>>78160109
Shills always write for too long, and without any of the presuppositions of a real person.
I like how OP's point is that we should vote for Hillary. Real mind you got there, OP.
>>78174832
Yeah I am admittedly shilling for Johnson but more importantly I'm shilling for a third party presidency so that they can't pull this psych op shit with the two parties again. You seriously think that if it works, every election in the future isn't going to be similar orchestrated?
>replying to the same obvious b8 threads we've been getting since last june
fuck is wrong with y'all, you know shills get paid per reply
>>78175875
>Johnson
>paid trolls
I hope he doesn't spend that whopping 700k in one place.
>>78174436
>doesn't care for Trump
>thinks Trump was needed as a plant to ensure a Republican loss
Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush were by far better candidates to ensure a Republican loss
>>78175707
>destroy the Republicans
>somehow the Libertarians won't also then be infiltrated by elites and subverted
Johnson is subverting it without anyone's help by appointing an anti-gun retard as his VP
>>78175707
>sophisticated two-party system of the power elite
>I'll just shuffle in with my goober candidate and waste my vote
Tell me you see your sheer stupidity.
>>78160109
>. YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SPENDING. Media and propaganda are everything in American politics
and here we have the biggest problem with american " politics"
>>78172335
Wow that's actually NOT a shitpost
>>78176617
This election is a wild card. I supported Trump when everyone was saying he had no chance and I continued to support him until I discovered the truth. Once I realized how much I liked Johnson's policies he seems like the only hope to avoid a Clinton presidency in my eyes. You might realize the truth sooner or later as well, what option will you have then?
>>78177492
The truth of what? That a third party can win or that you've fabricated this MO in your mind to support your ends? Trump is running on Americana and they fall in line with Libertarian ideals. I can only surmise that you're either brain damaged or paid to deflect votes from Trump on your silly premise.
>>78160109
Wait. I thought Obama was the evil one who would end democracy. Make up your mind.
>>78160109
they'te both elected in their respective parties already, which means that it'll make no difference according to you what you vote, and then your real motive is revealed as a shill, sage.
>>78160109
You are fucking stupid.
Why would they get Trump to ruin his reputation in the eyes of most dumb liberals in the world, spent a shit ton of money, just so Hillary could become president?
That's what JEB was for, dumbfuck.
>>78177944
Even if I still believed that Trump was legit, my hopes of him winning would still be low as I've outlined. A literal commie polls above BOTH of them and Hillary is continually edging Trump n the polls. Even if Trump is real and we agree on his policies you can't deny that he isn't strong enough of a candidate against the propaganda machine to be the outsider who wins. This makes my theory more plausible because it proves that they probably knew there was going to be support for the outsider in 2016 and planted Trump to undermine it.
>>78163750
Haha, Mexicans coming over the wall using jet packs?! Kill yourself, FAGGOT!
>>78160109
Based on the way he has voted in the past, his consistency on policies, and past statements in general, I think Trump truly loves America, and I think he really wants to turn the country around and make it a better place.
>The entire establishment will stop at nothing to make sure she is in power.
This doesn't mean they will be successful. What people need to realize is that the globalists are very low IQ, incompetent people. They're not smart. They're not skilled. People overestimate them so severely. No matter how much election fraud the globalists and the Hillary campaign has in store, November is going to be a staunch reminder that they're not really in control of anything, and they can't even win when they cheat. Sad!
>>78160109
It doesn't matter OP. No one is gonna believe you. Trumpkins are so fucking delusional at this point, it doesn't matter. Trump could admit it and they still would vote for him.
Trump isn't running a political campaign, he is running a cult of personality. A cult that will end up in a lot suicides.
Just sit back and enjoy the show OP. If America is too dumb to see an obvious shill like Trump, then we really do deserve Hillary. /pol/ would rather rejoice in dank memes than actually support conservative principles.
they're both plants dum dum
just enjoy the ride and stop worrying
>>78168103
EVERY SINGLE polling done on Johnson vs Hillary vs trump and compared to Hillary vs trump has Johnson taking away more point from Hillary then from trump.
Trumpfags are so retarded they hurt there own chances at the presidency by shilling against Johnson.
>>78160109
I hope Hillary wins, I've never seen a president of a first world country get assassinated in my life time
didn't trump call hillary a straight-up lair recently?
>>78180300
So in the best case scenario, say hello to president Fauxcahontas?
Not neglecting anything you've said, but considering Trump's personality he just wants to be President because it's the next step in his life as 'winner'
>>78171954
>>78180772
Backwards psychology or confirmation bias also utilized in Fox's Bob Beckel or MSNBC's Morning Joe. You paint someone as wrong or the enemy, then everything they say after that surrounded by the "correct" opionions is disregarded by the people who were already brainwashed to think they are wrong. The same psychological strategies are EXACTLY how she has escaped persecution by the people this whole time.
Saging this thread
Trump is spending so little money but has everyone talking about him, everyone knows (in a bad way or another) his policies, he's the talk of the world and yet he spends way less than Clinton, who's wasting money trying to cover her lies
Trump is not wasting his big guns until he gets close to the final lap, he's waiting for the debates where he will show who Hillary Clinton really is
Why waste so much money now, the attention span of the people is 3 minutes, they'll forget most of the stuff
>>78181096
He's been spouting the same policies and same disdain on trade and the same sentiments on the US getting fucked by bad leadership for over 30 years. If you knew how to use a website other than 4chan, you might have seen some of that footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM
>>78179558
You might have one of the dumbest posts in the entire thread, and that's saying a lot.
>>78181505
I never claimed anything you've said.
Are you just replying to yourself?
>>78160109
WTF! I'm #cruzmissile now!
>>78160761
Hopefully Gary Johnson isn't crazy and doesn't preach what he can't get passed by the Senate.
Why should I not vote for Gary Johnson, other than the C-SPAN thing with the fat hairy bastard?
>>78160109
the fact she's still allowed to run and not in deep shit means the whole world is confirmed a lie. most normal people agree that it's possible everything is rigged and the government lies etc., not on the same level as how a tinfoil believes anything however.
the events of this election proved to even the most basic casual that things are indeed pretty corrupt in the developed world and not just conspiracy theories any longer. no one wants to do shit though because life in the US is the best you're gonna get so, not like I want to risk my comfy life over it.
>>78181622
You claimed that he had some ulterior narcissist motive and was only running for the presidency to further serve himself.
I claimed he has been witnessing this for over 30 years, has made a lot of money in business, sees the way the country has been going for a long time and has taken it upon himself to change it because perhaps he feels a principle obligation.
How is that not your claim again?
>>78182113
I never claimed anything. You're strawmanning
>>78179846
hey nigger
why did ron paul and his son run on the republican ticket
>>78171834
>
This fuck is up with this shit, the guy literally takes his hands off his gun to take the bike from him. Thats when you grab the pistol
Motherfucker almost got a free gun but instead lost his bike
>>78181505
>Infowars video
I'm about to foil your tin bitch
Alex Jones has been paid by the government his entire career. The goal of infowars is to devise conspiracy theories so asinine that everyone dismisses any theory of the government's actual conspiratorial behavior.
That being said, what he believes politically means nothing. Any con man can have deeply held political beliefs and still kowtow to the power structure that keeps their businesses and wealth at bay. You think he's really risking it all and wants to undermine the power of his BEST FRIENDS who have hooked him up for decades?
>>78182242
You made half-baked judgments on his 'personality' and implied his motives were purely out of self-interest. "Strawmanning" my asshole. Just eat your cheese and pay attention to your own downfall and stay out of American politics, how's that?
>>78160761
That's it #Imtakingthejohnson now!
>>78182642
Infowars didn't make the video, you fucking moron. In case you haven't realized it yet, beyond Jones' tirades, their news organization acts as an AGGREGATE. They pick news up from other sources and give it their analysis. It doesn't detract from any one piece of news or video in and of itself. If you didn't have shit for brains, and weren't obsessed with dangling it over everyone's head how enlightened you are exposing people from being government shills, you'd have realized this.
But thanks for your contribution.
>>78182752
I didn't. You're strawmanning
>>78182642
Name for me TWO "asinine conspiracy theories" that are provably false that have been propagated by Infowars in the past 3 years.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
>implying a man with an ego like donald would ruin his and his family's legacy with out really meaning it.
Dont care we already won.
>>78160109
Ok, but answer this. What would Trump have to gain from this? What are the Clintons giving him? They guy is a multi billionaire with global fame and a healthy family. What could the Clintons give him that would be worth it for him to lose a 5 year contract with NBC and his clothing line being dropped from Macys? Not to mention the millions he has spend of his own money. What is Trump being bribed with?
>>78162732
>Every fucking election is rigged. Since, like, Lincoln.
This is the truth.
They are still using dead people to rig elections.
Shit will never end.
I think majority of people are to young or to bluepilled when it come to elections.
>>78183081
You literally said the only reason he was running for president was to further solidify himself in his own mind as a "winner", given his personality.
Don't know what else to do for you, bud.
Sort of undermines the whole campaign when he might actually have an interest in the betterment of the country, don't you think? But there's not point in dignifying you with a response, because you're fucking Dutch!
>>78183688
I didn't. You're strawmanning
>>78160109
>YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SPENDING.
stopped reading there.
>>78183473
>More money, really wants Hillary to be the next president
>>78183351
From the past few days:
>Left-wing windup toy attempts Trump assassination
>California trendy system designed to bring down america
>Orlando shooting was a false flag
>John McCain directly responsible for ISIS
>Obama is gay
>NASA wants to clone human body parts
If you really believe this shit, then all hope is lost for you. Can't believe people are this gullible.
>>78171162
bona fide nightmare fuel
>>78160109
enlightening stuff lad, ive never heard this take before
>>78183940
You think you're so clever because he won the republican primaries. The general election is an entirely different ballgame. He will lose unless he starts spending now. Her spending is inching her up in the polls.
>>78163837
>bragging about spending all your time on this shitty board
>>78181491
This desu, I don't think the guy can waste money unless it's on shitty steaks.
>>78174824
You're must be literally retarded to think that a fucking WALL will decrease drug flow into the US
>>78163308
It might actually be affective. They fit in with all conspiracy theorists here. It still won't work though. Its too low energy.
>The media is backing trump
>posts this schlock after his anti-hillarity speech earlier today
oy vey
>>78184454
Could you point out what's wrong with any of those articles aside from "C'MON!"?
>>78183351
Illegals being injected with Ebola to bring into the US
>>78181792
Because he's a libertarian; that's reason enough to put him into an asylum.
>>78161195
They are resorting to reruns again.
Wow so I was just watching some tranny porn and the tranny could not get her dick hard and I figured its cause of hormones or some shit but then I go to this trannys twitter page and she has multiple pics of her with a throbbing hard large cock so clearly she CAN get hard
What the fuck ? I feel totally ripped off
>>78185865
He's not drawing parallels between what makes her establishment and him the outsider. That's how he wins this election and he should know it. But that's not what he's doing. He's just using old right wing media attacks that didn't work then and won't work now.
>>78165679
IM saying quit with the bullshit where we pretend like our votes matter.
>always rich and powerful people, some with zero background in politics, some in politics so long they forget which server to use when dealing with top secret info, everything in between: these people claim fucking lordship over us in asking you to vote for them, and they are the ONLY ones with enough power money and influence (all 3 according to our Western perception, mind you, little to do with quality of character) to pull the wool over our eyes via ANY access we have to the outside world (internet, TV, radio, fucking postcards, what have you), they tell you who we are and what were doing and how much we should like it, and people are happy to be cuckolded so.
Fuck me, dude, there was a reason why America started and it was for the same shit that we see today: a push for GLOBAL taxation, huge gaps in the quality of life between whos up and who's down, the ever looming threat towards towards your ability to defend yourself however you want to see it, et-fucking-cetera. Votes do not matter when you have no choice in WHO your voting for.
Fuckin merrica.
>>78168855
So the America that the world literally hates is the America you want to be?
Nothing to see here, friends! Don't question authority or how it's established!!
shouldn't you be voting for Trump then to foil her plans?
>>78186957
If he's part of the plan he will either purposely lose, or will be the same president hillary would have been. If he's not part of the plan and wins, the govt. will either assassinate him, set him up or frame him. Trump will lose in the end no matter what way you look at it (assuming my theory is correct).
>>78186794
What world is that? UK or Western Europe being overrun with migrants? Citizens who have no freedom of speech, and no guns, and they are so warped that they pretend they weren't things they ever wanted in the first place?
Where are we talking about? Brazil? Mexico? Australia? Save your platitudes and just shut the fuck up already because it's just tired. When you're legally able to move out, then you can criticize the US from afar.
>>78163137
I would vote for malcolm x and im white and racist
>>78183473
>guy is a multi billionaire
No. Not really.
>>78186794
>>78186794
As an aside. Your self-importance isn't impressive anymore. Your tired Tim Leary style, 60-year old "Question Authority"! bullshit is damaging. Put up or shut up already. You're not doing or saying anything new or good.
The only reason you spout this dogshit is to make yourself feel superior to the "sheeple" because you know that by any real measure, you don't amount to jack shit.
>>78171970
>>78172053
i find it odd you people let this happen while they are still a minority...
>>78163061
he used 500k to pay his sons wine company and the venue which he already owns to rent to an event with campaign contributions.
and he loaned his campaign the money,its defiantly at not as well greased as it needs to be to win its already july he needs to get shit together if he is to win
>>78171162
did she died
>>78160109
Why go through all that effort though? If it hadn't been for Trump, someone like Cruz or Bush would have been a free win for Clinton.
>>78160109
I dont know if this has been said yet....
Pertaining to the campaign funds, and how HRC has ''''''''42'''''' million in the ''''bank''''
What if this Trumps First Magic Trick,
Ok so first, he gets the media to bite on how he's "only got 1.4 million left."
Second: Slander HRC's donations by phrasing it as " blood money.
and re affirm the people by saying he's
"Literally just starting."
3 the waiting game: """If"""" he gets tremendous amounts of money from the american people and his friends.
He can label his campaign: Paid for by the American people, and not ________ saudis,goldman sachs... etc
Thats pretty a pretty stable start to he's campaign, it puts in the minds of HRC voters that are voting to fatten the "saudi" pockets
>>78171448
lol'd when he goes back to close the till
>>78166507
Nobody said anything about drugs.
We just want you low IQ, stupid, mouthbreathing beaners sent back to where you belong and a wall built to keep you there.
>>78160109
That's why we support trump.
He may be a plant, but if he did will he's too much of an egomaniac to hand over that power.
>>78176445
>>78198897
Cruz beat Hillary in polling all winter long, only falling behind when the nuclear option was used against him.
Bush v Clinton was the expected shit vs turd that would have been within the margin of error right down to the wire. No shoe in.
Trump was always going to lose.
>>78160109
Even though I am not an american. I follow the american presidential race very closely. I have always believed Trump has the best polices and would be good for the United States.
However I have always doubted his sincerity there is something about him that puts me off. My instincts are telling me he is not genuine.
>>78160109
You're a fag.
Not even convincing either. I hope Shillary fires your ass.
Kill yourself.
