Not to be totally crass here but...
Is this one of the rare cases of "good riddance?" Or is this one of the few instances of a plausible false flag.
As RamZPual mentioned in his video, there's historical precedent for false flag.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/06/the-selective-compassion-of-jo-cox/
She was a useful idiot- your typical do-good leftist whose too stupid to know any better, but she was definitely killed as a way to smear Brexit.
I'd say that she deserved it, but the people who killed her are even more of a threat.
im not sheddign a single tear. bitch was actively working on fucking over her own people by bringing in more rapefugees. if anybody deserves death, it's disgusting traitors like her.
still, the whole thing seems fishy to me. anybody with half a brain would know that a public assassination immediately before a referendum would only hurt his cause.
it is possible that it was what they say it was - some moronic lunatic who just wanted to go full breivik on somebody. but the timing of the whole thing is too damn suspicious to not think about the possibility of a false-flag operation.
>>78132255
It's not just that... but the fact that his own brother claims he wasn't political and then all of a sudden he starts registering his name as "Britain first, death to traitors" or w/e.
wtf?
>>78131093
Come on man, she was dope in Parks and Recreation.
>>78136170
nice
>>78132255
Her funeral was on her birthday, mere days before the referendum.
I talked about it with my normie dad and even he calls bullshit.
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>>78138501
Her Birthday is today. Her funeral date has not been announced yet.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/22/jo-cox-husband-children-tributes-birthday-trafalgar-square
>International events will also take place in Beirut, Brussels, Melbourne, Nairobi, New York and Washington DC, as well as Cox’s hometown of Batley, to pay tribute to her “love, energy, passion, flair, Yorkshire heritage and belief in the humanity of every person in every place”, organisers said.
>A similar tribute is expected to be held at Glastonbury’s Park Stage, while a charity album of music recorded by bands including Coldplay and Muse at the festival this weekend will be released in Cox’s honour.
>A moment of silence will be observed at 4.25pm in London and around the world.
>>78139451
>Person that was killed had birthday the day before referendum
People love to roll their eyes at conspiracy theories and false flags, but it can't be overstated how simple it would be to carry one out and sway popular opinion.
Think about it in terms of incentives. You can sway the entire public and change the outcome of a vote... just by shooting _one_person_. That's it. That's so fucking easy to do. These jews spend millions of dollars on massive campaigns, but an equally effective move is to just shoot one little MP. It's so fucking simple that I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't do it.
no one deserves to die for having political ideals that differ from yours, that's a pretty dangerous can of worms to open
the fact that I disagree with what she was doing and believed in, doesn't mean I am happy she died or that she had it coming or needed to die, and I still find it regrettable. This should not happen in western civilization
>>78140322
I agree with you, but there is one problem with the mentality of "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
And the problem is this only works if EVERYONE is willing to allow free speech. And a major issue is that the leftists want to crush our free speech, no-platform our believes, and get us locked in jail for "hate speech" and banning any information that goes against their marxist narrative. So what happens is we end up defending the marxist's right to free speech, and they return the favor by completely destroying OUR free speech.
Same thing happens when the lolbertarians argue for open borders and minimal government. Okay great, you got your minimal government, but a bunch of pacos from mexico are flooding in who then vote 70% in favor of socialism. you think they're going to respect your libertarian principles? Of course not, they'll just turn it into another failed socialist state.
That's why I agree with Hoppe on this one. Communists need to be physically fucking removed.
>>78140322
You have to make the distinction between an opponent and an enemy. An opponent disagrees with you but doesn't want to harm you or destroy your society, whereas the enemy is actively fighting for the erasure of your culture, and wouldn't mind you dying.
Jo Cox was working toward the extinction of European peoples and cultures, and as such, she was an enemy of ours (even though it's entirely possible she didn't realize it). She had it coming.
>>78132255
Plausible deniability ring a bell. I wish this was satire.
>>78140696
If you're going to abandon your principles as soon as they're inconvenient what's even the point of having them? Why do you drape yourself in the American flag like a patriot when we can all see you're wearing a brownshirt underneath?
You're actually worse than Communists, because at least they believe in their cause enough to starve and die for it.
>>78141286
Communists have been successful, not because they're ready to die fo their beliefs, but because they were ready to kill for them, they didn't have any misplaced mercy.
People die in equally tragic circumstances every single day, and literally no one gives a shit.
How many mothers and fathers have been murdered or died of cancer since she got ventilated? Probably a couple at least, but nobody gives a shit because it doesn't forward their agenda.
>>78141286
>as soon as they're inconvenient
More like as soon as they're irrelevant
>You're actually worse than Communists, because at least they believe in their cause enough to starve and die for it.
this is some nice meta shitposting
>>78141286
strawman argument. I never defined what principles I have.
The most important principle is self-preservation. Being "principled" means jack fucking shit if it results in you getting steamrolled by marxists that won't play by the same principled rules that you handicap yourself with.
But find, go ahead and believe that principles matter above all. And when the sea of diversity rises up and the vibrancy is at your doorstep and a horde of dindus chimps out, rips you from your home, and smashes your head in with a brick, you can say "well at least I stood by my principles"
She wasn't exaclty a shill (like Cameron/osborne), nor was she an SJW. She was just some standard bluepill.
She was a false flag though, and more blood on the sly kike parasite hands.
>the eternal elite will even kill their own useful idiots just to make slight progress
>>78131093
What the guy did was wrong, both morally and politically.
But, no, I'm not upset by it.
Politicians, police and military probably are the closest to targets that count as "legitimate" in terrorist attacks.
I doubt many Irish Republicans cried over pic related, for instance.
Further; This wasn't even an act of organized, political violence really. It was a autismo retard having a breakdown.
If the left and NeoCons keep heading down the same path, it's only going to get worse. Full Yugo Tier Sectarian Balkanization. They should be prepared for it.
The easiest way to lower the rate of extremists is to practice less extreme politics.
In regards to it being a false flag - It reeks of one, but it's most likely that the autist had his emotions and mental instability triggered by such a hugely public and important moment in British history.
>>78141609
Necessity is not a defence to murder.
>To preserve one's life is generally speaking a duty, but it may be the plainest and the highest duty to sacrifice it. War is full of instances in which it is a man's duty not to live, but to die. The duty, in case of shipwreck, of a captain to his crew, of the crew to the passengers, of soldiers to women and children, as in the noble case of the Birkenhead; these duties impose on men the moral necessity, not of the preservation, but of the sacrifice of their lives for others, from which in no country, least of all, it is to be hoped, in England, will men ever shrink, as indeed, they have not shrunk.
>It would be a very easy and cheap display of commonplace learning to quote from Greek and Latin authors, from Horace, from Juvenal, from Cicero, from Euripides, passage after passage, in which the duty of dying for others has been laid down in glowing and emphatic language as resulting from the principles of heathen ethics; it is enough in a Christian country to remind ourselves of the Great Example whom we profess to follow.
R v Dudley and Stephens, 1884.
You act as if death is something to be forestalled, avoided, and thwarted at every turn. Well, I've got bad news for you anon. You're going to die, and whether it's today or in 40 years is such an infinitesimal difference in the grand scale of the universe that it hardly matters.
Death is not the enemy. It's part of life. The most important part of a life worth living, is a death worth dying for.
Truly pathetic, /pol/
>>78139998
liberals are racists, they will happily believe that wars are started and hundreds of thousands of brown people are killed for oil or military contract profiteering but you suggest 1 white person is killed to protect a political union and they lose their minds
they are just coincidences!
>>78140322
The problem is that people on the left do want to harm you for having different political opinions, and are carrying out rather dangerous policies.
That said; This was not one of those cases.
Political violence, the likes of which you see in Northern Ireland, have 500 years of escalation behind them.
This was literally a case where a democratic, peaceful solution was being UNDERTAKEN at that very moment, and there was zero need for violence.
He was just a fucking mental patient.
Like I said above - I disagree with what he did, and it was unnecessary and wrong.
But it's not something that upsets me.
>>78131093
Oh it's definitely a false flag, but good riddance anyway.
>>78141986
>you shouldn't uphold society because you're mortal and you'll die anyway! nunnadismatters!
What sort of tactical nihilist bullshit is this? Not an argument.
It's terrible what happened to her but the amount of coverage her murder is getting makes it hard to believe that agendas are not being pushed.
The massacre in Orlando has barely been mentioned to the point that it's nearly forgotten about since Jo Cox was killed.
>>78141286
It does seem like an abandonment of your principles but truth is you just have to adapt and be flexible with your decision making and this applies to a society just the same it does to an individual: there is just no right answer unfortunately, you have to be smart and do the best with what you've got to survive and move forward, that's all humans have been doing since the start and it's all you'll ever be able to do, when it comes down to it: adhering to one thing can leave you behind in the dust and leaping from one stance to another can leave you not knowing which way is up, so you have to just find the balance.
>>78142237
>he seeks to uphold society
>by throwing it away to secure his own comfort
k senpai
>>78142928
>>by throwing it away to secure his own comfort
what? I fail to see how preventing the country from being taken over by socialist mudskins is "personal comfort'
>>78143137
Well it's certainly not an act of principle or ethics according to you.
So what is it?
>>78143195
preservation of society
>>78143306
Why bother?
Don't pretend the reason is anything other than your own comfort. Your claims to be "doing it for others" or "for the greater good" are bullshit, because you and I both know you'd shit all over that if it was convenient.
>>78142237
It sounds stoical to me
