ITT: I translate (fuck me I'm crazy) a blog post.
SAUCE is: http://bagniproeliator.it/la-strepitosa-vita-di-uno-stragista/
All credits go to Nebo, who is a motherfucking genius. I don't want credits, etc. So I post it here, as the Anon I am.
I am doing this for posterity, so fuck you if you don't care.
P.S.: There might be typos of mistakes, but fuck you again, I have been up all night long.
>>78079170
### 1. HIS MOTHER ###
Shahla Mateen is an beautician. When at the parlour, her colleagues think she is "bad tempered and paranoid". Once, Shahala showed up at the salon screaming and accusing a co-worker of having thrown rotten eggs at her door and having pinched her tyres. She never met with her son's teacher, even when he started being suspended for religion-related fights. In 20 years of marriage she had become increasingly violent, and especially with her husband who, in 2002, filed a report for domestic violence. She got arrested with a 5,000 bail, but eventually released when her husband decided not to press charges.
After all, if a woman beats up a man, it is not real violence. Come on.
>>78079253
### 2. HIS FATHER ###
Seddique Mateen considers himself an important and renowned political analyst. On his YouTube channel, he claims Pakistan is sending spyes to the US to have him killed. He also has a show in a satellite tv channel, where he rants against Pakistan, the letters he writes to Obama, and declares he supports Talebans -- whom he regards to be real patriots. He even creates a no-profit organization to fund them -- but assigns it to his daughters. Later, he registers his corporation as PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN.
>see below
Anyway, in Afghanistan they all think he is an idiot... not unlike Andrea Diprè. He later candidates himself to the presidency of Afghanistan (seriously) while in his real life he is an insurance salesman. He and his wife are reported three times for not having paid their debts, and four more times it is them who try to scam their insurance or employers... but eventually they miserably fail. So here's how a normal family conversation unfolds:
>FATHER: Darling, how was your day?
>MOTHER: My co-workers conspire; I can hear them walking in the dark, out there.
>FATHER: Maybe it's just Pakistan killers.
>SON: THOSE FAGGOTS!
>>78079343
>provisional gov of Afghanistan (Florida)
>>78079419
### 3. HIM ###
When at school, Omar tries to show off by declaring his uncle Osama Bin Laden taught him how to use a rifle. But, unexpectedly, his bullshit doesn't go through and he is beaten up more than once. So he opts for Jack's and Grindr, which are Applications for gay hookups; he also goes at drag shows. All of this, without the knowledge of his father, who nonetheless starts wondering if his beloved son may be a banana lover. Of course, Omar tries to hide it, and end up marrying Sitora Yusufiy. He beats her for laughable reasons, such as forgetting to do the washing or being able to stand on high heels while he cannot. When his father visits his son, he calls Omar "a faggot". In his perpetual fight to mask his identity, Omar gets a gym subscription and tries to join the police. He visits the Mosque four times a week, writes anti-Western slur on Facebook and praises terrorists. In 2013 he manages to become a security guard. But he never loses the habit of shooting his mouth off, so he tells his colleagues he is in touch with Al-Qaeda.
Is it real? No.
But it is now time to introduce the true and only absolute idol of the story.
>>78079493
### 4. THE FBI ###
The interview room of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is grey, and its walls are fodded with leather. There is a steel table nailed to the floor, two chairs, a small led-light coming from the ceiling, a camera at one corner, and a big mirror. Omar is sitting there, handcuffed. Behind the mirror, the best minds of United States examine him carefully, while the screens display his biometrics. The gaps between the monitors are filled with Starbucks coffee mugs. Twenty special agents are waiting for orders.
>>78079726
>"Well, ladies and gentlemen, let's recap." Says the head officer: "Mr Mateen's father is a madman who supports the Talebans and thinks he is in touch with Barak Obama. His son told his colleagues he is linked to Al Qaeda, and his Facebook feed is a jubilee of insults to the West and oaths of fealty sworn to Hezbollah, Talebans, ISIS, and the Eldeans who are sworn enemies of Terrestrials."
>"He looks disoriented," comments an agent, who wears a pinstriped pants suit: "Al-Qaeda and ISIS hate each other. Recently... Sorry. My apologies". She blushes and stares at her feet.
>"That's way better, officer. The world is made of good guys and bad guys. Let's not even start with alla that crap about Wahabbites, Falafelites, or messed up shit that ends like Syriana."
>("How did Syriana end?" Asks an officer.
>"Google it".)
>"Have I been properly understood? Good guys. Bad guys. Otherwise nobody will ever understand. Now let McCallan in."
>>78079828
>McCallan enters the room. He is wearing an anthracite black suit and a blue tie. He is in his early 30s. He has a pin in his buttonhole -- a tiny USA flag. He grabs the chair with consummated slowness, sits down, lays his fingers across, and stares at Omar:
>"Mr Mateen -- he says -- with absolute respect and without a shade of racial, religious, or sexual prejudice, given my current role, training, and experience as an officer of the bureau, and being aware of my gulty condition of cis white male..."
>"Can we skip the disclaimer?" Says Omar.
>"Are you a terrorist?"
>"No."
>"Well, okay."
Omar is discharged.
>>78079937
### 2014 ###
The FBI receives a phone call from the cashier of a weapon shop. The guy tells of an Arabian who showed up asking for three bulletproof vests and several boxes of ammo, then had a conversation over the phone in which he repeated "Allah u akbar" and then left. FBI investigates and discovers it was Mateen. Mateen himself is heard saying, when talking to a colleague in the security industry: "if FBI killed my wife and my son, I would feel free to become a martyr".
It really sounds like: "if Poland invaded me, I'd feel free to invade it".
>>78080157
This time, FBI tries a different approach, and puts Omar under digital surveillance. The g-men discover he used to be friend of Mohammad Abusalha, who had just blown himself up in Syria... but they don't see a problem with it, since Omar is Arabian, and everyone is aware Arabians all know each other. Omar goes often to the Pulse, which is a gay club in ORlando where he complains at home his wife and kid forbid him to drink; so he gets drunk there and starts some fights. But this is what makes a proper American out of a good man. People like these are allowed to pilot Jaegers, after all.
It is a fact that, during the day, Omar discusses terrorist attacks with his wife, visits Disneyland with her, makes plans for a massacre, and he even asks her to accompany him to the shop to buy an AR-15. By night, however, he enjoys having his turdcutter drilled by those whom he openly despises in daylight. All of this, while he writes on Facebook a lot of nonsensical bullshit about everything that sounds like terrorism. The FBI, mindful of its first time with Omar, eventually opts for a newer strategy.
-<"Omar, are you a terrorist?"
>"No."
>"Are you sure of that?"
>"Yes."
>Omar is discharged.
After three years of hook-ups at the Pulse, on 18th June he enters the place with a handgun, a long gun, and explosives. This triggers an escalation of mental retardation that has no precedents in World's history. And if you are very sensitive people, don't read any further. That is, because what you're going to read will make your skin crawl.
>>78080356
### THE SLAUGHTER: AS IT HAPPENED ###
At 02.02, an armed policeman within the club hears the gunshots. At first, he thinks they're part of the song. But when he hears people screaming and fleeing, he finally understands. He declares himself outgunned and leaves. He calls for help. Two wild SWATs appear, shoot at Omar in the middle of that complete mess. Omar takes shelter in the restroom, where he finds tens of customers... so he slaughters them like mosquitos.
>>78080538
At 02.07, Eddie Jamoldroy Justice writes to his mother he is hiding in the restroom, and that he is going to die because someone's shooting. First things first, his mother ASKS HIM IF THE GUNMAN IS A POLICEMAN, then she tries to call him -- because, you know, if your son is hiding, ringing him is the best idea ever. Eventually, she concludes with a text: ANSWER THE DAMN PHONE. Not "I love you". Not something sweet, motherly, human.
>I'm calling them now
>U still in there
>Answer our damn phone
>Call them
>call me
>>78080621
AT 2.09 the webpage of Pulse club publishes a status: "everyone get out of pulse and keep running". Why? What's the purpose? If I'm already out, it's useless. If I'm still in, the gunshot is clearly ongoing, and anyway I don't have fucking time to check Facebook while bullets fly above my head... do you reckon? Anyway, the tweet is a success [42,000 likes, 5,100 comments, 14,149 sharings].
I can only imagine the people at home, handling the mouse, tormented by the choice: shall I click on the sad face or on the wow face? It's urgent: it might be a matter of seconds. It's happening. Let's have a look at the comments:
>pic related
>>78080694
At 2.22, when out there a crowd of illiterate monkeys grunts and mumbles, Omar calls 911 and declares his allegiance to ISIS; then he includes the Boston bombers, a friend of his who blew himself up in Syria, and finally concludes by demanding the USA to cease bombing his country.
>"But... man... our war in Afghanistan ended in 2014."
>"Whatever."
>>78080777
At 2.45 Omar calls News 13, talks with Matt Gentili -- a producer -- and declares he did everything for ISIS. Then -- as he keeps slaughtering -- he WRITES A FACEBOOK POST and makes sure social networks will go crazy about him.
>>78080914
At 3.58 police arrives, with all the required tools. As a witness would later recall, when inside Omar was heard and seen calling his wife and telling her HE IS THE FOURTH TERRORIST, AND THAT THERE ARE THREE MORE TERRORISTS IN THE CLUB, PLUS A WOMAN WEARING AN EXPLOSIVE VEST.
>>78081008
At 4.57 SWATs produce an explosion to open a hole in the wall, but it doesn't work. So they use armored vehicles to widen it, but this merely leads them into the main room. Meanwhile, Omar is barricaded in the loo, and has enough time to get mad over the breach and slaughter some more hostages. With effort, SWATs remove the debris and make the armored vehicle advance within the club. Once they reach the restroom, they take it down, by killing everyone who's left inside. That is, watiers, customers, go-go dancers, DJs, actors. And Omar. It's not unusual, you know. In such cases, the police considers hostages to be "temporarily alive murder victims".
>>78081163
### CONCLUSIONS ###
The more I look at such "attackers'" lives, the more I convince myself Islam is irrelevant. Not here, not in Paris, not in Belgium. Everyone blames fundamentalism, the degradation of suburbia, racism... Even repressed homosexuality is blamed. But what strikes me is Omar lied to his wife even at the point of death. How he told her he was part of a fantasy team of ass-kickers, while in fact he was lonely as fuck, forever alone, surrounded by corpses -- in a disco that is a metaphor of his own mind. In his last minutes he wasn't speaking with God: he was looking at Facebook.
That's why, today, I thought that maybe God is "the others". The web. The likes, the shared statuses, the subscriptions. A crowd become entity, and an entity enabled to judge human beings like nobody did beforehand: 10,000 likes have the same value for an Israeli and a Palestinian. For the first time, humanity has created a veritable God, which numerical and discernible. Who has a simple mind will do anything in their power to obtain his approval. There are those who commit suicide on Periscope. Those who die on Instagram to get a good selfie. Those who sell their virginity on eBay. Those who wank on cam4. Those who kill on Facebook. Those who beg for wishes and sharings. This reminds me what the sons of war shouted in Mad Max: "Look at me / Admire me!". It also reminds me the number 42 of the Hitchhikers' Guide. It is a God you can worship by putting yourself on display, and that rewards you by giving you a rating. What a thing. What a squalid, desperate, and immense thing it is.
But, after all, I am a drunkard who writes bullshit at 3 am while sipping bourbon. So it's better if I stop here.
>>78081335
SAUCE ON SEDDIQUE MATEEN'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5MBQ9UhS01swTh860m_tvQ/videos
SAUCE ON SEDDIQUE MATEEN'S CLAIMING HIS LIFE IS IN DANGER: http://bagniproeliator.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/IMG_5990-1.png
SAUCE ON SEDDIQUE MATEEN'S NO-PROFIT ORGANIZATION: http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=OfficerRegisteredAgentName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=SEDDIQUEMARY%20N100000111395&aggregateId=domnp-n10000011139-a1aa0f62-90f6-41d6-8f45-65b36de3c9d5&searchTerm=Seddique%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Mariam&listNameOrder=SEDDIQUEMARIAM%20L140000747140
SAUCE ON SEDDIQUE MATEEN'S RUN FOR THE AFGHAN PRESIDENCY: http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=OfficerRegisteredAgentName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=SEDDIQUEMARY%20N100000111395&aggregateId=domnp-n10000011139-a1aa0f62-90f6-41d6-8f45-65b36de3c9d5&searchTerm=Seddique%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Mariam&listNameOrder=SEDDIQUEMARIAM%20L140000747140
SAUCE ON SEDDIQUE MATEEN'S JOB: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/18/the-unhinged-home-that-raised-orlando-killer-omar-mateen.html
SAUCE ON SEDDIQUE MATEEN'S CRIMINAL FILES: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/18/the-unhinged-home-that-raised-orlando-killer-omar-mateen.html
SAUCE ON SHAHLA MATEEN NOT TALKING TO HER SON'S TEACHERS: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/18/the-unhinged-home-that-raised-orlando-killer-omar-mateen.html
>>78081416
SAUCE ON OMAR PRETENDING TO BE REALTED TO OSAMA BIN LADEN: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article83610402.html
SAUCE ON OMAR GOING AT DRAG QUEEN SHOWS: http://www.corriere.it/esteri/16_giugno_14/omar-mateen-beveva-solo-pulse-chat-gay-orlando-3c48919a-31f4-11e6-9479-1c0658e56669.shtml
SAUCE ON HIS FATHER CALLING HIM A "FAGGOT": http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/mondo/2016/06/13/strage-orlando-50-morti.-isis-rivendica.-trump-pugno-duro-sullislam_487930c9-fad2-4d12-9570-f4ba367cdc91.html
SAUCE ON OMAR TELLING HIS COLLEAGUES HE IS AN AL-QAEDA MAN: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/omar-mateen-early-signs-of-promise-then-abuse-and-suspected-terrorist-ties.html?_r=0
>>78081466
SAUCE ON MOHAMMAD ABUSALHA: http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2016/06/12/news/strage_orlando_ecco_chi_era_omar_mateen_l_autore_della_strage-141876685/
SAUCE ON HIM GETTING DRUNK: http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2016/06/12/news/strage_orlando_ecco_chi_era_omar_mateen_l_autore_della_strage-141876685/
SAUCE ON "ARABIANS ALL KNOW EACH OTHER": http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/orlando-terrorism-fbi-omar-mateen-213971
ON THE POLICEMAN FEELING "OUTGUNNED": http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-shooting-timeline/
ON EDDIE'S MOTHER ASKING IF THE GUNMAN IS A POLICEMAN: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/13/hes-coming-im-gonna-die-sons-text-to-mother-reveals-orlando-shooting-terror
LINK TO PULSE'S FACEBOOK STATUS:
SAUCE ON FB POST: http://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/speciale-strage-di-orlando/strage-di-orlando-omar-mateen-controllava-facebook-mentre-sparava-per-accertarsi-che-il-web-parlasse-di-lui_3014831-201602a.shtml
SAUCE ON OMAR'S PHONE CALL TO HIS WIFE DURING THE SHOOTING: http://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/speciale-strage-di-orlando/strage-di-orlando-omar-mateen-controllava-facebook-mentre-sparava-per-accertarsi-che-il-web-parlasse-di-lui_3014831-201602a.shtml
SAUCE ON TEMPORARILY ALIVE MURDER VICTIMS: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/18/orlando-nightlcub-shooting-pulse-florida-attack-timeline
>>78081416
>>78081466
>>78081510
All sauce has been reported as it appeared in the original blog post.
I am not the author of this post.
Just a translator.
I don't know the author personally.
If the narrative sucks, please feel free to blame my translation. The original is very engaging and easily involves the reader, alternating slur, politically incorrect things, and quality writing.
Of course I have failed to convey all of this, but whatever. It's a good exercise anyway.
Thanks all for reading and sharing.
ALL CREDITS TO NEBO: http://bagniproeliator.it/la-strepitosa-vita-di-uno-stragista/
OP you're a madman but it was kinda worth it. Different perspective I guess.
Basically dude says Mateen was so fucked with his head he basica kept telling tales until police pulled the trigger on him.
Not sure on FBI slaughtering all those people... as a consequence of procedure... fuck that. I might even read the English links
>>78079920
>>78080493
Thanks for the bump guys.
Shitposting never ends. I couldn't even finish posting I was already on p. 10. Next time I'll try to cram everything in a different format.
but whats his name again?
>>78083024
Omar Mateen
>>78081335
Just because he posted it on FB doesn't mean that was his entire motivation. He's been obsessed with terror since his teens - celebrating 9/11 in class. That's pre-FB, pre-myspace and pre-social networking.
>>78083415
>Just because he posted it on FB doesn't mean that was his entire motivation. He's been obsessed with terror since his teens - celebrating 9/11 in class. That's pre-FB, pre-myspace and pre-social networking.
Man, I am not standing by the author's opinion.
But basically this dude was telling bullshit to everyone since childhood. Not even Afghans took his father seriously.
This dude swore allegiance to basically everyone who was remotely linked to anti-Americanism.
I'm not saying terror didn't play a role... but maybe if you don't grow up with your dad calling you a fag and your mum being a paranoid asshole... maybe, I say, you won't end up shooting a bunch of fags who blowed your dick the night before.
Maybe.
>>78083415
Blog is not just about social network. It is also.about basically everyone being a bunch of chimps.
Finale is a bit low key. But it's bot an argument anyway.
Omar must have tried to fit in everywhere. I find it amusing that in the end it is highlighted the fact he had to come up with imaginary terrorist friends.
Of course it was *also* a way to mislead the police... calling hus wife and mentioning accomplices. But it still makes you think: a dude with imaginary terrorist friends.
It reall makes you think
>>78083654
>>78084085
>the way he was treated by other people made him a radical Islamist who hates America and loves terror.
Please explain further how OTHER PEOPLE forced him to love terrorism.
>>78083194
but whats his name again?
>>78084651
This sounds like one of the things it is impossible to explain to Americans because they are so self-absorbed in their own narrative that they cannot appreciate the multifaceted nature of the events.
Namely, from your very post I identify you are kind of obsessed with finding a unique cause for all that happened. Or maybe you think you found it.
Then you project your idea of "unique cause" on all other narratives and say:
> they are wrong
But man, the blog there doesn't say that all responsibility is on others. It said this dude was mistreated AND he ended up worshipping anything that could make him feel accepted and liked under his father's eyes.
Saying
>removing Islam = removing terrorism
is like saying
>removing guns = removing violence
I'm not shilling for Islam. But you must understand that this dude was not enlisted or anything. Had a friend who blew himself up in Syria and wanted to emulate that shit.
>>78085083
Omar "bullet in your spleen" Mateen
>>78085914
Just tell me that it's other people's fault he shot up a nightclub and has been obsessed with terrorism for almost 2 decades.
>>78085914
>Saying
>removing Islam = removing terrorism caused by islam
>is like saying
>removing guns = removing violence caused by guns
there we go
considering there's a campaign against the west by certain muslim groups, it's not unreasonable to block muslims for a while
there are no similar situations with gun owners
>>78086318
I'm not telling you what you want me to tell you because it is not what I am thinking. It is just your projection because the only way you can understand the event is by looking for "faults".
This guy was not crazy, so he has responsibility for what he's done.
Of course we can philosophize and discuss about how what he was in June was the result of social and cultural and individual processes that affected both his brain development and caused his mind to be split in an unhelpful and dangerous way.
But if you say "it's ISIS". You're saying other people's are involved.
But similarly, I can say:
>it's FBI who had no ability or expertise to acknowledge the warning signs of his radicalization
>it's his father who has fucking bullied him since childhood
>it's the family poisonous environment
>it's society that gives you feedback through the internet no matter your values (you get attention for good and bad things alike)
And the list goes on... and the network is complex and shit. But maybe not so complex, actually.
All the story is about the fact the symptoms of his malaise and madness could be spotted since his early teenage. They have always been there. Up for grabs.
But nobody gave a fuck ever. Even FBI didn't take him seriously.
So basically it was like a wolf who cried wolf all the time and nobody took it seriously until it bit someone. And when it happens, the idiots are us; not the wolf. Wolf is just being a wolf.
In which way is this different from what you're saying.
>>78087640
No when I say ISIS I mean he chose to be influenced by ISIS, nobody made that choice for him. It was 100% his choice.
Explain to me the process by which others made him love ISIS
>>78086577
>considering there's a campaign against the west by certain muslim groups, it's not unreasonable to block muslims for a while
I don't disagree... in a strictly American perspective.
But same goes from those Muslim groups that want to block Americans and Jews etc. from interfering with their economies.
Your logic works on both sides.
And this is exactly the kind of logic that fosters neverending conflicts.
Anyway let me add the so-called West you refer to is an artefact, a fiction, a construction.
I come from Europe. We don't have American way of life, we don't have Maccas. We don-t have many other things. I just don't feel Western. I'm not Slav either. But every time I hear this West being talked about, I wonder who the fuck subscribed to it.
Do you mean America? Do you mean NATO? What the fuck is this West? Is it Christianity?
>>78088570
The west is capitalism and science and rule of law.
Compared to barbarism and religion and rule of law based on an ancient religion. (the middle east)
hope I cleared things up for you.
>>78087830
Man, this guy didn't just choose ISIS.
He chose Al-Qaeda.
He chose Terrestrials.
He chose Talebans.
He chose so many things...
So he made this choice of ISIS.
Was it his choice? Yes. Why should I deny this?
The point you miss is another.
If you are in your bed and you feel threatened, you reach for the gun. Right?
But suppose the gun is not there. Will a flashlight do?
Well. Better than nothing, right?
So what I am trying to say is that this guy chose violence. He chose to shoot people, to make a mess. To make it big.
But then, once he got his mind on the genersl strategic goal, he started grasping at the air around him and collected all the things that had been around him all his life. And indeed he surrounded himself of such things.
So once you decide to make it big, you basically follow the quickest path. The optimal one.
Of course this dude was not going to radicalize Hindu. Because it is very unlikely, giving his personal history.
Of course he wasn't going to shoot lumberjacks and chose gays instead. Because he was not a woodsman, but a closet homo.
Violence is like an beam of light: it follows the shortest path from A to B. This guy was basically living in anti-West ideology by day (no.matter Al Qaeda, etc.) and closet homo by night.
When his cognitive dissonance became unbearable, he conflated the two things:
>removal of homos = removal of cognitive dissonance
TL:DR;
>KILLING GAYS AT PULSE'S WAS LIKE a /gif/ ANON DELETING HIS FAPPING FOLDER
There's a Univision interview that just came up that says a gay Puerto Rican gave him HIV, and he shot up the club because he knew a lot of Puerto Ricans would be there
Sounds like a crazy guy making up a story but who knows. Mateen is one of the more interesting mass shooters we've had
>>78079170
dank lad
thanks
>>78089779
>So what I am trying to say is that this guy chose violence. He chose to shoot people, to make a mess. To make it big.
Yeah, that's what I've been saying. He chose to do this. Himself. Earlier you were trying to say he was bullied into it, which is it?
Savage
>>78079493
Just going to say that there's no proof he was on gay dating apps as nobody can find his supposed profiles. Remember, the repressed homo angle is just liberal/MSM obfuscation.
>>78079343
>FATHER: Darling, how was your day?
>MOTHER: My co-workers conspire; I can hear them walking in the dark, out there.
>FATHER: Maybe it's just Pakistan killers.
>SON: THOSE FAGGOTS!
lmao
>>78081335
All of this just to say that Islam is a spook and shill some dumb stoner philosophy. Kill yourself OP.
>>78090369
No. I said I agree with you there are individual responsibilities.
There is a passage of the blog in which it is said he tried ti show off at school by telling lies and got beaten as a result.
In the original I translated this is implied as a joke. Maybe I didn't convey this properly. He kept getting into fight... but mostly on the losing side.
Yet I still maintain that parenting plays a huge role in shaping the kids' psychology. So there is still a case to talk about others' responsibilities in shaping his early personality.
I'm not saying somebody bullied him into killing.
Actually I don't even think he got direct contact with ISIS --except maybe for his friend who left for Syria.
So even if I stick to the lone wolf narrative, I still.maintain that maybe personalities like these can be prevented.
"Prevented" here does not mean that there is a single event or agent that, if eliminated, would solve the issue.
Prevented just means a series of counterfactuals:
>hadn't his father been an idiot
>hadn't FBI let him go
>etc.
>>78090610
Actually I went through the Italian sauce on this.
Article from Corriere is more extensive.
It quotes all witnesses who said things like
>knew him
>been here for 3 years
>he went with me to a drag show
>I chatted with him on Jack'd
But the newspaper also adds that there is still no objective evidence of Mateen's sexual preferences and it comments that
>"American media are going crazy with speculations about the killer's sexuality"
And it makes examples of how some magazines went a bit too far.
So yeah. Not sure if it is a MSM or LGBT propaganda. But anyway it seems the blogger gave it all for granted while in fact his sources are more cautious
bump while i read all this
Why did you link an Italian article?
>>78091260
Man I'm not the author of the blog. just translated it to have a chuckle over:
>FB posting during shooting
>Forces of order fucking up the mission
(not sure if it went that way, would love details)
>Black mom insisting her son calls her
>People clicking like on Fb and sharing and all the embarassing media humdrum while stiffs where still warm
>>78092449
Beacuse I read it and translated it?
And posted my translation on pol?
I translated it for my friends.
I'm no native English speaker so translation surely sucks.
But then I got the file and posted its contents here... and deleted it because I don't want a pile of crappy translations on my desktop
As
Simple
As
This
>>78079170
bump-a-dump.
By the way, how did you discover this trash?
>>78079170
someone cap that shit
>>78093174
Bagniproeliator was suggested to me by a friend.
In Italian is absolutely hilarious and politically incorrect.
My English translation can only convey the idea.
Usually the author alternates news with juicy details to fake exchanged and conversations.
Ome of the most recent amazing stories are about him meeting a dude who is supposed to sell silverware on line... and it turns out this dude is pimping his 59 y.o. wife.
EXCERPTS:
>he looks at me suspiciously and asks
>"are you Italian?"
>"a lot"
...
>"seriously?" My gf says. "Gimme the dude's phone number!"
>"don't you trust me?"
>"if you fucked a wrinkled lady's ass for $ 100 it's all right but if I discover you didn't and paid all $ 122 just for the silverware... I'm gonna kill you"
Another amazing short story was about the Al Qaeda terrorists in Thailand who basically blew themselves up together with all the whores thet were having an orgy with.
Some epic shit ITT.
>>78089779
>So what I am trying to say is that this guy chose violence. He chose to shoot people, to make a mess. To make it big.
>But then, once he got his mind on the genersl strategic goal, he started grasping at the air around him and collected all the things that had been around him all his life. And indeed he surrounded himself of such things.
kinda like an accidental terrorist. alternate view is he was Travis Bickle, swimming in a sewer of degeneracy, that fact and his personal failings came to him eventually, and his violent response flowed from and was informed by cultural/familial.
>>78086158
Omar ''no sucking cock around my glock'' Mateen
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