I can't believe that there's not even one positive thing said about the EU on /pol/
Yes, it has major flaws, but I can't believe you see no positives to it at all?
The EU is quite amazing if you think about it. It's an empire, but unlike the Roman Empire, it was created peacefully - no wars involved
And Europe was war ridden all history, the EU is is successful at keeping peace among the European nations
The EU does a LOT of good stuff to protect us against global, international predatory corporations, but that doesn't get a lot of media coverage... such as the recent roaming charges removal - which is great
Many will say :" hhuehuhuhueuhe of course you're pro -EU cuz ur SLovenian u get EU moneys heuehuehe"
Not fuck you, it's not that. I don't need any of your filthy snownigger money. First of all, Slovenia is EU average, so we neither give, nor receive.
Secondly, yes, as a Slovenian I'm pro EU but not because of money. Because I'm surrounded by Austra, Italy, Hungary, Croatia,.. and do you know how annoying it is to travel molested by border control
It facilitates trade, it facilitates movement of people.... Can we agree that there are positive things about the EU as well?
I agree with most of /pol/ criticism but you guys make it so black and white, as if the EU is the root of all evil and without the EU it would all be lollipops and rainbows
Just look at other places in the world... would you rather be in USA, where you have to move into your car and careful not to break your leg if you lose your job cause they''ll leave you to die
I believe in the European Union, it's sick, but I want to heal it, not kill it, because nothing good can come out of its disintegration
The future of the world is China, India, USA, Brazil, Russia - wil lhave tremendous power, and if we are not united as a single entitiy to represent OUR interests and our values, do you think anyone wil lgive a shit about nothingburgers like Estonia, Latvia, even Finland? And even the UK
>>77947395
Yea you get some """benefits""" from EU but just till you get to the average or a little bit more than that.
After that point you're forced to join """ the eurozone""" and to suck bureaucracy dick all day
Also didn't read everything so fuck you.
BTW: Europe has always been united ( even though many countries have rivalries, but that's something that will happen everytime probably) without your fucking """Union""", it has been Christianity which has holded all of us together.
>>77947395
Can you hear it, the little voice in your head repeating again and again cuck cuck cuck?
>>77947395
>>77948468
>le juif meme
>form a political union without a fiscal union
Everyone, act surprised when it fails.
I can leave my shit country, and travel free that's a benefit
EU needs better leaders to be great again, all it takes is someone like Trump or Putin
>>77948555
>le butthurt jew replying to a jew name calling meme
>>77947395
The drawbacks outweighs the fex advantages.
>not to break your leg if you lose your job cause they''ll leave you to die
How is this true ? And how is this fucking related to the EU ? What are you smoking ?
>I believe in the European Union, it's sick, but I want to heal it, not kill it, because nothing good can come out of its disintegration
Sovereinty.
>>77947395
Don't try to bring a voice of reason to the /pol/ dear compatriot. This board is not about that.
>>77947395
i found the only good thing about EU, Turkey isn't in it... yet.
>>77948629
Trump, Putin? Why do you get examples from inferior places such as America and Russia?
You don't need to look outside Europe mate. Julius Ceasar, Napoleon Bonaparte, We've had the best.
It's true, you're right, we need to bring back such leaders.
Even a Bismarck would be enough!
Or a Charles de Gaulle.
It's not about seeing no positives, the problem is that the negatives are way heavier than the positives.
The EU costs us money, jobs, continues to enforce petty laws and regulations on us and we can't do anything about it.
We can't disagree with any of their proposals, they'll shove it down our throat anyway just like the EU constitution.
Facilitating movement of people is really shitty when you live in a prosperous area, it attracts all the fleas and leeches.
>>77947395
>blooducker who gets billions from euro taxpayers
>knows his shithole country will never contribute and he will never have to pay
>EU IS GREAT GUYS!!!!!
eastern europeans are like fucking niggers
>>77947395
>no wars involved
Are you fucking retarded? It happened because people were sick of wars, it was a direct result of war... and the NWO agenda.
>EU is is successful at keeping peace among the European nations
True, and it seems that this peace has defeated us. Our society is declining. Societys need struggle to survive.
>The EU does a LOT of good stuff to protect us against global, international predatory corporations,
Tell that to Poland which is nearly owned by german corporations and media
>Slovenia is EU average
Not to be rude but that just shows that the EU is shit and the "well off" countries will be dragged down. Muh socialism
>how annoying it is to travel molested by border control
Actually it was kinda fun when you were younger. Border were a part of vacation, good memories actually and makes you feel going into another countries, with another language and another culture. Now you just don´t give a fuck and keep driving.
>It facilitates trade
You can do that without the EU
> it facilitates movement of people
Multiculti and racemixing, destroying everything in the long run, great
>agree that there are positive things about the EU as well?
Yes there are, but the negatives outweigh the positives. Basically the only good thing about the EU is being a strong combined economic force against the US and China.
>without the EU it would all be lollipops and rainbows
No it won´t, but the EU is just a small step in what is to come. It will expand, probably further south into north africa. More multiculti, more destruction of culture long term
>because nothing good can come out of its disintegration
Really? Is this some prophecy you have seen in your glass ball? Stop fear mongering you emotional wreck.
>The future of the world is China, India, USA, Brazil, Russia
>US if they don´t get a civil war
>China is at it´s limit, was close to an economic collapse
>India has still a looong way to go
>Brazil literally wat
>Russia ... fkn post limit
>>77947395
The EU is a retirement home for dank politicians.
>>77948861
>voice of reason
>no real reasons to stay in EU besides open borders, as it was needed right now
>as we can't open border through treaties instead of wasting money in this shit tier union
>>77947395
It seems that only poor European countries like the EU, or it's irrelevant to more developed European countries like UK, France, Norway, Germany, etc....thats just an american perspective, so whatever.
>>77948786
>How is this true ? And how is this fucking related to the EU ? What are you smoking ?
because people from post communist shitholes can now go to western europe for free medical care.
>>77948995
Stopped reading at "racemixing"
If you want me to take you seriously, you gotta do better than being a retarded vacuumhead Stormnigger
>Slovenia
>Population of 2 million
>England
>Population of 54.3 million
Sure, open borders work great for you, but I'm surrounded by ocean and pakis. Do you seriously think I give two fucks about remaining in a political union to benefit some Slovenians? Perhaps I'll vote Remain to satisfy some Czechs in a tiny village pub somewhere? No, I'll vote to crash this shitty corrupt union the same way they piss MY money away on other nations and give me a spoonful of it back, but write in huge letters "OY LADS THIS PROJECT COST 6 MILLION BONGS, SAY FANKS TO THEM PROPER SOUND EU LADS INNIT FOR FORKIN AAAHT A BITTA FUNDIN!!"
>>77947395
>but unlike the Roman Empire, it was created peacefully - no wars involved
What? Explain yourself
>>77947395
The european union was designed by a nazi.
this destroy /pol/ logic.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Hallstein
Even though he was in the wehrmacht his surname sounds jewish
>>77949233
>because people from post communist shitholes can now go to western europe for free medical care.
You're a retard if you believe that's true.
>>77947395
It's like this, bro:
The idea, the concept of a police officer, the idea of a man empowered by the State to enforce the law and keep the peace and watch over the community, is a good idea and most people would say completely necessary.
But if you hire a cop and he's selling drugs and running a prostitution ring and taking bribes and occasionally killing people, you don't say, "Oh, well, the concept of a cop is so good, I guess you have to take the bad with the good."
You fire the bad cop and you hire a different cop.
The people who actually rule and run the EU are all anti-human, anti-sovereignty, pro-eugenics psychopaths. In real life.
Is the concept of a European Union a good concept? Arguably yes.
That doesn't mean you should just accept whatever version falls in your lap.
>>77947395
Its not an empire because its not a nation and every member state can do whatever they like if they decide so.
Also its not because of EU that people can move easily around the Europe etc. It was like this before the EU, we dont a complex undemocratic and bureaucratic system for that.
>>77949276
>but I'm surrounded by ocean and pakis
I feel you mate, but THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE EU.
>>77948903
>Russia
>outside Europe
This is that famous Slovene education isn't it
>>77947395
>pro EU post
>look at flag
>eastern europe
Every time
>>77949238
>comes shitposting on pol
>gets answers anyone would expect
>becomes mad because he doesn´t like the answer
>implying racemixing is only for "stormnigger"
>butthurt slavshit
90% of Eu shills on this board are Slovshitians, how come?
You are the biggest cuck I have ever had to watch abusing the Slovenian flag. People have died to not have you gangraped by Croats, Serbs, Muslims, Fascists, Nazis and whatever Hungary is. All you do is shit on them. Do you have any idea how long it took to break out of the empires that abused, raped, stole and killed your compatriots? WTF is wrong with you.
Yes, there are few good things about this clusterfuck of a union. They are the same as in Yugoslavia. You could move freely up and down the shithole that is the Balkans. The shitpeople from the Balkans could move to you. The shithole got shittier with the time. It's the same with the EU. Congratulations, you broke out of Yugoslavia to join the next Yugoslavia on a larger scale.
You already pay money. You are a net contributor. You are being mugged by the facists and croats again. You clap your hands and think that if the germans rule over you, it will be better than if its the slavs. Let me break the news to you: They don't give a shit about you. They hate you. They tried to erase your culture and your language. You are allowing them to try again.
In 5 days, there will be independence day. Remember the people who died in the last 1000 years to give you the freedom to shit on them. Be grateful instead of being a cuck.
BTW. You wish you lived in a country as good as the USA or Switzerland is.
>>77949690
Slovshits have all the cuckery of Swedes with all the braindead stupidity of Slavs
>>77949572
Sei anche un po stronzo pero, perche' la Slovenia e' Europa centrale
Guarda su Wikipedia, cazzone.
>>77949683
You can greentext all you want but your posts show you're underage and undereducated. Sorry bro, come back in a few years when you read a book.
>>77949506
> but THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE EU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA
>Frans Timmermans: EU will be diverse or war
>Franciscus Cornelis Gerardus Maria "Frans" Timmermans (born 6 May 1961) is a Dutch politician and diplomat who currently serves as the First Vice-President of the European Commission and the European Commissioner for the portfolio of Better Regulation, Inter-Institutional Relations, Rule of Law and Charter of Fundamental Rights in the Juncker Commission from 1 November 2014.
>>77949782
Hahaha that post actually made me laugh.
Thanks mate.
>>77947395
Fuck off shill.
>protect us against global, international predatory corporations
That's exactly what the EU is.
>It facilitates trade, it facilitates movement of people
This can be done without the EU on a nation by nation basis. If a country doesn't want another country to be allowed in, they should be the ones to decide. Don't want Turks? Too bad, once the EU lets them in there is nothing you can do.
> I want to heal it
Not possible. Do you know how the EU presidents are elected? Of course you don't, because it's not something you get a say in. The representatives that a country sends have no authority, and by extension your entire country has no authority in the EU. The EU is the ruling class of Europe and only EU leaders have any say in the laws that you must abide by.
The ONLY thing you can do is try to leave the EU, but for most that isn't even possible. Those on the EU paycheck will just throw out results they don't like or repeat the vote until they get the result they want.
>>77949841
>>77949976
Your country shouldn't even exist. You should just be part of Austria again
>>77949572
>west euro leftist created and fucked up the union
>ids da iistrn uroopsoors (who btw are the only thing stopping your libtards from going all out 1984 in the euro parlament)
Protip, pastafag, the same liberals that shill for immigrants in the EU today, will continue to shill for immigrants after leaving the EU. Just look at Germany, nobody forced them to take rapefugees, their own libtards forced the government.
>>77947395
>Federal government with no connection to member states is able to enforce legislation
>Big states take control, smaller must obey and are put in subjugated position
>>77949690
Big part of our right wing is pro EU because they see it as opportunity to suck german cock and our right wing leader is big EU fan
>>77950043
Nah hes right, Slovenes here always vote the greens, all the time
>>77949976
>ad hominem the person who gave the longest answer in the thread
>go read a book
Listen below average IQ degenerate, you instantly resorted to shitposting when you got an answer you didn´t like so shut the fuck up. Don´t project your shortcomings on me.
>>77950207
Good!
Green politics is the politics of the future!
>>77947395
Why pushing the fucking immigrants all over? In what fucking way this benefit anyone on Europe at all? Even more, when they are infested with extremist ideology and 80% of them are males in military age. Why the fuck, someone would push that rationally???
>>77950109
>the same liberals that shill for immigrants in the EU today, will continue to shill for immigrants after leaving the EU
I'm completely aware of this, the argument about the EU and immigration is just a british thing anyway
>>77947395
shut your mouth yuropoor!
the eternal anglo has awoken! and we have deicded it was a bad idea and must be stopped
DEUS VULT!
>unelected psychos who receive massive amounts of money for ruining nation states in persuit of some librul multicultural dream is a good idea
>a currency that ties together countries with enormously different productivity and stance on inflation is a good idea
>>77950522
Stay with us mate. Let's make Europa great again!
>>77947395
EU is a joke. It's second in worthlessness next to NATO.
>>77949690
because broke ass nigga states are dependant on euro bennies
where as western europe isnt as much so.
the uk can go it alone...eastern europe needs it to survive
i refuse to be a cash cow for yuropoors
i want to restore the empire....cant do that with euro dumps sucking our wealth
>>77947395
>a person from a shit country can freely move to a country with a better ecinomy and live off their wealth
sounds great for europoors, but everyone else is getting fucked with all the dirty east european immigrants and their dirty gypsy cultures.
>>77950557
>implying nation states are a good thing
it's 2016
we need superstates mate
>>77950357
If you're a mudslime maybe. There's a reason no other race advocates "multiculturalism" for themselves, they know how self-destructive that nonsense is.
>>77950522
Dont listen to my retarded conational >>77950656. Im counting on you to crash this union.
>>77950656
sorry mate...reform yugoslavia
i dream of the new empire
>>77950749
>>77950739
>le poor country meme
Slovenia is poor when compared to Switzerland, USA, UK, Qatar, etc.
But Slovenia is not poor when compared to Spain, Italy, South Korea - it's in that category.
That is not "poor" by any sensible definition of the word. We live comfortably here.
I own a HTC Vive... I'm not dying of hunger here mate.
>>77949506
And I never said it was, lad. Unfortunately, with the EU, open borders are a mandate for EU residents, and we also can't control border policy for other nations either to the degree Britain would a) like, and b) needs. You aren't horrifically overpopulated, and have a broadly homogenous nation state and populace. Bongland doesn't. Irregardless of whether everyone ends up brown-skinned in a hundred years or so, it matters not if my country doesn't still exist because it was run into the ground.
>>77949434
We've got one who can SEE!
>>77950836
European Union is the shit.
Yugoslavia was SHIT tout court.
>>77947395
free monies is literally the only good thing about the EU
>>77947395
>if you think about it
why is it everyone who says this has actually done no thinking whatsoever
I liked banging chicks on Erasmus, that's about it.
>>77947395
>>77951048
RESTORE THE EMPIRE OF EMPIRES!
DEUS VULT!
>>77951048
Yugoslavia was the only time your little shithole country was relevant
>>77951154
Because you're a filthy Slavshit from Chechnya?
EU is the sole reason why Russia isn't fucking us all in the ass.
>>77947395
>>77947811
>>77948197
>>77948468
>>77948703
>>77948861
>>77948995
>>77949036
>>77949233
>>77949342
I'm European. Born and raised.
The bureaucracy thing is a meme.
Compared to Italian or French bureaucracy, EU is easy-peasy.
I've never had an issue with it.
Plus, many talk of "unelected foreigners" ruling from Bruxelles. But what is the EU Parliament?
I cannot wait for USE to be a thing so we will get rid of corrupt motherfuckers in our own countries.
Long live USE! Let the Überdemocracy clean our local sins!
Let it defend us from both USA and Russia.
Actually, USE is the best chance for lingusitic minorities. Manny of us don't need Italy or Spain, but Catalunya, Asturias, Triveneto, and more.
The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES (like Italy, cemented by bourgeois and fascism) and involve each true nation into Europe.
Anybody ever heard the motto: Europe for the Peoples, not for the States?
>>77951391
uk and frances nukes are the only reason
or do you think germany and sweden are holding them back lol?
>>77951259
I won't object
That's true
But I don't want to be relevant
USA is the most relevant. That's why 9/11 happened to you, and not to us.
Being irrelevant has its perks. You're left alone.
I want a good, comfortable life.
I don't care about being relevant or known.
Do a Google Image Search of "slovenia" and you'll see I live in a little Paradise here.
My live is extremely comfortable, I work 6 hours a day, have enough money to buy whatever I want including the latest technology from Burger land
Relevance is overrated mate
>>77951261
i dont think thats it
>>77951229
Fuck you
>>77951391
Good post Finnbro
Only good post in this whole thread
>>77950557
>the last shot Europe, as a continent, has at world relevance is bad
Maybe if you hadn't destroyed the continent with your meme wars, you fucking kraut, we wouldn't be the US' and China's bitches by 2030. Even Indonesia will outrun your meme economy by 2020. Do you think gooks and russians will have mercy on tiny "nation-states" like Estonia and Croatia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IMF_ranked_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(PPP)#IMF_estimates_for_2020
>tfw huns trying to destroy the white race for the third time this century
Epin
>>77951467
STFU TRAITOR!
THE UK MUST BE FREE AND THE EMPIRE NEEDS MEN!
>>77949238
>gets a good response with arguments
>ignores it because it used a term he didnt like
Wew lad. You are just acting like a liberetard that ignores all reason and evidence.
>>77951467
>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES
a nation without a state has little protection. why should i think EU will care when they can liquidize it for cash and territory
>>77951580
shut your mouth traitor!
>>77947395
Fuck
Right
Off
you absolute jew
Death to the abomination that is the EU
Glory to all sovereign nations
>>77950702
Good. When do you leave?
>>77951467
>Let it defend us from both USA and Russia.
>Implying a USE wouldn't be America's bitch
>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES
So merging 28 states into one is better for linguistic minorities?
>>77950758
Fuck your superstates, every large country in this world is a complete shithole except for USA and Canada who benefit from having the same culture as western Europe.
And dont even start with "muh military", our defence ministers are women and pretty much no one in the EU wants to die fighting for some other country on the other side of the continent.
I would never even dream to defend your country with my life, and if you got half a brain, you certainly wouldnt want to die for mine.
>>77951467
>Compared to Italian or French bureaucracy, EU is easy-peasy.
They're on top of each other
>Plus, many talk of "unelected foreigners" ruling from Bruxelles. But what is the EU Parliament?
The place where laws that can only be proposed by unelected bureaucrats gets voted according to who lobbied the most
>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES
You say you're european but disregarding history and culture like this is very american of you
>>77951467
>The best chance for those NATIONS to exist is to abolish STATES (like Italy,
Kindly fuck off.
Thank you.
>>77951733
I a priori ignore Nazis sorry
I can't waste time with braindeads
Would you discuss with someone who bleieves in Reptilians?
Or someone who believes in the Illuminati?
I guess not.
That's why I don't waste time with Stormfaggots.
>>77950557
>unelected psychos
Kek.
Eu is ruled by an elected parliament and then in turn by representatives of your elected states.
You don't even fucking know how it works
>>77950357
"The future," he says . . .
"The future." lol
Sweet Jesus we got a lot of retards in this world.
Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame;
All their attempts to bend thee down
Will but arouse thy generous flame,
But work their woe and thy renown.
RULE BRITANNIA! BRITANNIA! RULE THE WAVES! BRITONS NEVER EVER EVER SHALL BE SLAVES!
>>77950087
>That's exactly what the EU is.
Fuck me Amerifag. True story is EU forced many so-called corporations to fucking comply.
Most class actions in Europe succeed because of EU... reason is local gov are too corrupt and involved to help the people. Europe is the only hope.
>>77951960
>>77951467
Good posts bro
Brought a tear to my eye
There are still good Europeans like You in the world!
Freude, schoener Goetterfunken,
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische dein Heiligtum.
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Brueder,
Wo dein sanfter Fluegel weilt.
>>77951901
Pretty much this.
Nobody in Europe feels "european", it's a fucking meme created by Americans after WW2 to try and unite us against the Soviets.
I'm Italian, AND THAT'S IT.
>>77952324
So imagine you're in a room with a German, a Frenchman, 2 Africans, a Texan, a Chinaman and a Japanese.
Would you see them all as equally "foreign"?
>>77947395
>an empire
With no emperor or imperial army.
you are a genius OP
>>77947395
>Slovenia
>cuckiest slavs
opinion discarded
Brexit would definitely do no good to me personally, but I'd rather you leave, that would be a step forward for you guys. The prospect of working in the UK, as I have for several years now would be uncertain.
Good luck guys.
>>77952287
you mean people who shaft their own country to throw away their power to unelected bureaucrats and ustase?
get fucked
>>77952287
>relying on an Aussie shitposter as your only backer
That's just pathetic, libcuk
>>77950207
Yes, but you Germans are too stupid to see why.
I too was dragged into that Hofer euphoric until a Slobro enlightened me. It was us, Slovenian minority, who were responsible for the outcome of your elections. Take that faggot, enjoy your refugees.
>>77951923
Italy is a meme.
You became a country just because some Jews decided it was the case.
You're just a geographic shape on a map.
I've spoken with many Italians. Only uneducated wogs think Mussolini was a thing. Most want to separate and stop paying shills for the poorest parts of the country.
Italians basically hate their own country and rightfully so. They don't trust their politicians. Corrupt as fuck. Cannot wait for Italy to dissolve. Unless you merge into USE, you will end up balkanized with the usual civil war.
Fuck you. I hope your borders get deleted. Cannot even keep shitskins away from your coasts.
>>77951932
>I a priori ignore Nazis sorry
a priori ignoring anyone or anything is the mark of a pseudo intellectual.
You're supposed to listen to everybody and believe nobody, not the other way around.
>>77952617
>Slav calling Germans stupid
>>77947395
>EU is is successful at keeping peace among the European nations
kek no, we had peace 50 years without the EU.
>>77951915
>You say you're european but disregarding history and culture like this is very american of you
Idiot. I have just said ethnicities and cultural identities get more respect form Europe than their respective countries.
Tell me one good thing Italian politicians have done for you
>>77947395
"Representative" democracy on this scale is too undemocratic and too trivially corrupted by Jews. It simply doesn't work.
Nationalism is a necessity to protect other races from Jews and their dark skinned armies. Any good the EU can or has done will be destroyed as the Jewish destruction spreads.
>>77952781
yeah becasuse the richest nations kept bailing out the poorest
we have nukes other than france no one in the eu has any
chat shit get bombed will be our modus operandi
>>77952467
I said other side of the continent, you bring me a guy from my own conutry and a neighbouring country, Nice strawman.
Bonus points because the Frenchie would never speak a single word of English, so the first foreign guy I could relate to would be the Texan.
Then comes the Jap, were on 4chan here.
Next, thanks to our great leader Merkel, Im now in more contact with Africans than people from the EU, so theyre less foreign than the Frenchie or some EU-slav in a way.
>>77949276
>UK talking about open borders.
>>77952992
"Chat shit get bombed"
I kekked
>>77947395
The only bad things about EU are Merkel and Schengen area law.
>>77947395
so why did you destroy Yugoslavia when peaceful empires are such a great idea?
I want EU to fall apart so we get back Kosovo and Bosnia in fire and blood.
>>77952870
How about you tell me one good thing the EU did for us
You're not completely wrong though, since the unification the government has tried to suppress local identities to make us all italians but this argument doesn't make any sense regarding the EU
>>77951867
>So merging 28 states into one is better for linguistic minorities?
Surprisingly, many minorities saw their rights acknowledged by EU.
I'll redpill you on how it works.
When nation-States emerged... some had been existing for a long time (France). Other ones where just meme-tier (Italy).
Considering the meme States, they have always had the urge to repress linguistic minorities, because diversity was considered poisonous for the unitary State.
So Northeners got flooded by resettled wogs, etc.
All minorities in Europe have had to compete with States that wanted them to disappear... and perpetually mocked them in MSM. To the point talking your own language at home was considered barbarian.
But Europe somewhat doesn't care about creating a homogeneous identity. It is more like a big Switzerland... or that's the idea. So current States and corrupt national elites are now under fire:
>from minorities, for benefits and shit...
>from EU, which doesn't tolerate corrupt locals
I'll make an example. Sicilians have always wanted some degree of independence. With EU they will have a better chance to rule themselves as part of an insular EU region than now as part of oppressive Italy. So they can be autonomous, pay a share to EU for common market and defense (to avoid being FUCKED by foreign powers), and for.all that matters they will be able.to.rule themselves at will.
>>77951757
Please leave EU
>>77953356
>>77953812
we will make you proud of the jack once again if we do m8
>>77951745
>a nation without a state has little protection. why should i think EU will care when they can liquidize it for cash and territory
Implying current states haven't already cucked their own people well enough.
Think of Sweden.
Cucked by EU? No! Cucked by their own government!
EU must dissolve national states, which are poisonous entities that only foster war and conflict and reduce them to a series of rationally divided regions of 5-10,000,000 people each
>>77951637
USE NOW
>>77954022
Eat shit. We don't want you
>>77954098
marxists and regressives under EU funded cucks destroyed sweden
we dont need more europe we need less of it
>>77954227
your opinon is irrelevant, australia must answer the call of the fatherland!
>>77952708
eh, slovenia is based. theyre more like germans than slavs.
>>77948555
>le
You have to go back!
EU is nothing more than an economic regime. Merkel's plans don't even benefit the Germans!
>>77947395
FUCK EU
they are responsable for the vermin invasion of gypsies
DESTROY THE EU! EVEN IF IT MEANS WAR! DESTROY THE ETERNAL ARYAN!
>>77949459
you had a pretty good post untill
>EU are all anti-human
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>>77953608
>How about you tell me one good thing the EU did for us
You're fucking degree is worth the same from Sicily to Scotland.
No need for paperworks.
All the fucking money Italians are awarded every fucking year in research funds because Italy is unable to allocate a decent amount of its GDP to schooling and education and research in general.
Wasn't it for EU you would still be around studying with the Croce/Gentile system.
Even the Common Agricultural Politics has been good... with your ability (Italian) to impose fucking food standards all over the place.
I know milk producers were pissed off, but that was a problem of the quotas. You wouldn't be selling tomatoes in Ausfailia (believe me you are) if it wasn't for EU shilling for your produce.
Plus... EU is the best chance Italy and France have to go and tell NATO to fuck itself.
Otherwise you will be FOREVER am American outpost.
Instead, UNITED EUROPE is the best chance at having a third (or fourth) military power that is not America's puppet and that can compete with Russia and China as well.
>>77954098
so you are saying the EU wont try to cuck me? or just that national governments cuck too? because czech isnt cucking me and i dont want to share a society with a bunch of subsaharan africans, if the EU could stick to a european white caucasoid citizenry i would think about it
>>77947395
It's basically big businesses way of trying to eliminate nations states and create a single world market where legislation is homogenized to their advantage.
Free trade is cancerous and so is globalism.
>>77954391
Gib me Australian citizenship first
>>77954584
Apparently not if this thread is any indication
>>77954022
Wow thanks dad
>>77954243
>marxists and regressives under EU funded cucks destroyed sweden
Bullshit and you know it.
You're making a huge bundle in which EU and libtards are the same thing, which they are not.
>>77948468
>27 Shekels
Add this
>>77947395
Maybe because its a cucked Jewish Commuist Union
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tezeW1uDXCs
Can't wait for Turkey to join the EU.
Then these "i'm so european" people will taste a full swing of their own medicine.
I mean, they're already taking little sips (Bataclan and whatnot), but they're still in denial.
Just let them burn, all of them.
>>77947395
>Slovenia
its objectively true you want stay in eu cause eu moneys
the more impressive economies like britain have to fund your ass to even it out
its one big socialist superstate.
>>77955088
>so you are saying the EU wont try to cuck me?
Not at the cultural identity level. They won't impose Esperanto on you the same way Nation-States imposed languages over minorities.
>>77955210
It absolutely is. Liberal ideology and globalism are intrinsic to the EU. But you knew this already because you're baiting
>>77955172
sorry son but you turned your back on the crown,no hard feelings you are still our fav though :)
>>77955210
the regressives destroyed the EU,its why we are having the brexit in the 1st place...why you mad anyway? do you understand that your dad is back in the game now and it benefits your economy with global trade now?
>>77947395
>The EU is quite amazing if you think about it. It's an empire, but unlike the Roman Empire, it was created peacefully - no wars involved
a bunch of US colonies were grouped up into something called EU - after the cold war new colonies joined
>And Europe was war ridden all history, the EU is is successful at keeping peace among the European nations
nukes not EU
>The EU does a LOT of good stuff to protect us against global, international predatory corporations, but that doesn't get a lot of media coverage... such as the recent roaming charges removal - which is great
kek faggot I guess TTIP is something you've never heard of
>Not fuck you, it's not that. I don't need any of your filthy snownigger money. First of all, Slovenia is EU average, so we neither give, nor receive.
you have no idea how this shit works apparently - the EU is only a part of the process alongside multinational corporations and lobbies
>It facilitates trade, it facilitates movement of people.... Can we agree that there are positive things about the EU as well?
all of it can be done better and more efficient with international agreements
>I agree with most of /pol/ criticism but...
without the EU things would be better than they are now
>Just look at other places in the world... would you rather be in USA, where you have to move into your car and careful not to break your leg if you lose your job cause they''ll leave you to die
YOU
>I believe in the European Union, it's sick, but I want to heal it, not kill it, because nothing good can come out of its disintegration
ARE
>The future of the world is China, India, USA, Brazil, Russia - wil lhave tremendous power, and if we are not united as a single entitiy to represent OUR interests and our values, do you think anyone wil lgive a shit about nothingburgers like Estonia, Latvia, even Finland? And even the UK
RETARDED
>>77954973
>You're fucking degree is worth the same from Sicily to Scotland.
Literally who the fuck cares
>No need for paperworks.
Except the huge mountain of paperwork you need for the italian bureaucracy plus the huge mountain of paperwork you need for the european bureaucracy
>All the fucking money Italians are awarded every fucking year in research funds because Italy is unable to allocate a decent amount of its GDP to schooling and education and research in general.
How nice of them to give us a part of our money back!
>Even the Common Agricultural Politics has been good... with your ability (Italian) to impose fucking food standards all over the place.
Yeah try talking with the producers, see how happy they are
>Plus... EU is the best chance Italy and France have to go and tell NATO to fuck itself.
You don't need the EU to tell them to go fuck themselves if you want to
>>77947395
Are you that german pro eu-army poster with a proxy?
First of all
>It facilitates trade, it facilitates movement of people.... Can we agree that there are positive things about the EU as well?
You don't need EU for that. EU is a totalitarian supernation that needs to be destroyed. We can and should go back to the genesis of EU and stick with it - open markets and open borders.
>>77955412
>muh duh eberyfing I dun like is all da same
I'm.not even replying to this. If you cannot discriminate, your bad.
I am not debating with an uneducated American who tries to sell me ideas that were just brainwashing coming from the McCarthy era.
Basically you are mistaking MSM-induced braindamage from the 50s for an actual red pill.
>>77955396
genetics is the fundamental core of cultural identity. coudenhove kalergi plan is a no go sorry need to crash this union and hopefully build something better
>>77947395
>but I can't believe you see no positives to it at all?
List the positives.
That's all the Pro-EU shills have had to do now since 2013.
Yet not one of them has, because... there are no positives for European citizens.
Not even one. It's amazing they got away with it for so very long, really.
>>77948903
>A literal subhuman
>Shit talking Spurdo
>>77955628
>Except the huge mountain of paperwork you need for the italian bureaucracy plus the huge mountain of paperwork you need for the european bureaucracy
Make a fucking example!!! Take pics of the paperwork.
Show.me please. Make a fucking example.
You're all talk and no evidence
Italians are renowned lazy motherfuckers who are unable to make a phone call... so don't sell me the idea bureaucracy is excessive just because it requires you to do some actual work every now and then.
Make fucking examples of how Europe ruins your daily life with bureaucracy.
>>77951467
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>>77955724
Top fucking kek. Are you really trying to tell me the transnational superstate is not globalist? By the very nature of its existence it is. And the EU has been pretty active it's entire existence promoting feminism, multiculti, and leftist ideology in general. Are you retarded or something?
>>77955628
>How nice of them to give us a part of our money back!
Implying Italy doesn't get more than it gives.
>>77947395
We just want more wars, friendo.
>>77956046
>one example
Counting votes from European countries takes more time than Austalian. Now stop bullying our neighbours
>>77956125
Italy pays more than it gets
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9643193/EU-budget-who-pays-what-and-how-it-is-spent.html
>>77947395
I'll admit one thing, their flag makes a great firestarter, probably from all the stolen souls
>>77956227
YES! AMERICA! FUCKING HELL!
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>>77955628
>You don't need the EU to tell them to go fuck themselves if you want to
Hahahahahahahah
You must be a countryfag or something.
One of those people who think European armies would be relevant without international agreements.
No matter how well trained the Italian army is, its only way to compete with the USA is to team up.
Same goes for Putin who can close the gas tap whenever he wants.
All this idea you can tell Americans and NATO to fuck off and be alone and uncucked for the rest of eternity is just a silly dream. You fucking have to team up to be relevant.
And the clock is ticking.
How many people do you have in Italy? 50 millions? 60? What will you do when your neighbours or even distant countries such as Indonesia reach the same industrial output of your country? You will be fucked.
Unless, of course, you team up and create your own rules and then whoever wants to join team EU must comply with the rules Italt contributed to draft.
>>77956494
>skeleton of fire
>>77951968
To late, you are our slaves:DDD
>>77951467
I'd almost have been up for your EU Superstate if the EU hadn't proved it loves the idea of flooding the continent with Africans and Muslims.
>>77956111
>transnational superstate is not globalist
So when do you leave your federation?
>>77956697
You thought I was joking?
>>77956804
this basically
damn globalist jews
>>77956125
We literally don't
I'm done talking with you, you clearly don't know what you're talking about and base every point in your argument on stereotypes and memes, go school someone else on how great the EU was for their country
>>77951932
>Would you discuss with someone who bleieves in Reptilians?
Yes
>Or someone who believes in the Illuminati?
Yes
>I guess not.
For all the reptilian/illuminatifags may be, they can sometimes find interesting things.
>>77956855
A soon as the US becomes more than one dominant culture you fucking baloneyhead, hence the term "transnational"
>>77956261
Is this a joke?
Tell.me of serious bureaucratic impediments!
Aw well. Here's one.
Europe didn't allow Greece to get away with corruption.
So when your governments started faking accounts, suddenly you found yourself cucked by your own criminal behaviour.
>muh ebil EU
Think again, Ελλάδα. Maybe the bad guy is you.
>>77947395
fuck off cunt
>>77957105
Globalist is anything encroaching on another races land.
>>77956773
we aint trapped in here with you...you are trapped in here with us!
13 colonies WILL be ours again!
>>77956480
>Italy pays more than it gets
The extant payments is Italy's ticket to have a say in EU. Of course you have to pay *something* to join a club.
But guess what... do you know Italy's submerged economy is so huge when Greece fuckup threatened the Eurozone Italy simply put some hands in its hidden mafia pocket and suddenly it was out of danger?
Italy didn't even need to solve its problem of endemic African-style corruption to get out of the Greek fuckup. They merely needed to tackle the issue a bit.
>>77956494
Delete this
>>77956804
Then get a fucking party, go to EU and change this shit.
>>77956494
And then the burning soul shot out of the burning flag in a flash of firey light, screaming and screaching while it ascended into the crowd, killing five bystanders as it shot away into the horizon, singing the Ode to Joy by Beethoven...
>>77957838
Nah, I'll just leave that mess behind.
Giant conglomerations of member states into one government is always a bad idea because it further removes the citizens from their representatives. Frankly the United States is a bad idea, we should split back up into our individual state countries. You want to start a war overseas CA? Good luck getting Texas to help you.
>>77956906
Okay, but that's the price for your relevance in the international scenario
>>77951467
>But what is the EU Parliament?
Literally a shitshow with no governing power. They are literally paid for doing nothing.
>>77957257
>Is this a joke?
We vote for a fucking euro-council when in fact, Merkel and her buddies have their own agenda!!
>Europe didn't allow Greece to get away with corruption.
Do you hink I like corruption and what Greece has become?
This doesn't change the fact of the economical slavery imposed by the forth reich
>>77957105
Who are negroes.
What is Latinos.
Give it 59 years or more... and USA will habe it's own shit.
>>77947395
I'm voting to remain in the EU because all of the sexy women in London are from Europe.
Cheers.
There is no benefit to this authoritarian superstatism.
>>77947395
Well, we certainly need eurocentrism (the real kind) in european politics, and the EU could have been the tool for that, but looking at the clusterfuck it is now it`s just shit
>>77948996
this
>>77958088
Greek people are so stupid. They prefer to drown in their own shit than have someone force them to wipe their ass.
You are just a source of problem.
But you're clearly a minority. Because to date you are still within EU. This means the majority of your population is still pro-EU.
And if you answer to the contrary... i.e. the majority is for grexit... then the problem is not between you and EU. Rather, you have a problem of communication between you and your fucking governing body.
>>77949486
>and every member state can do whatever they like if they decide so.
hahahahahaha, that's exactly why people hate the EU, because our elected leaders do everything the EU says regardless of our opinions or national interests.
>>77958521
>Greek
>People
Straya at it again
>>77956494
What kind of a third world scum burns flags?
Fuck you.
>>77958753
death to EU, through peace or war EU must fall.
>>77958521
>Rather, you have a problem of communication between you and your fucking governing body.
Cant't you get it shitposter? THERE IS NO governing body! The politicians are all-for the people pre-elections, and all-for the money after them. They don't care about us for 40 conscecutive years, and nothong will change unless the people take power thus leaving EU. I have nothing against European citizens. i HATE THE FUCKING LIARS
>>77959027
>Stupid good goys keep electing useless traitor again and again
>IT`S THE EU GUYZ
And that`s why you will remain a shithole forever
>>77958158
>Negroes
>Culture
Oh I'm a laffin
>>77947395
The good does not wash out the bad. An unaccountable, unelected triumvirate has no right to govern. The bEUROcrats and their lackeys should be hanged for treason against the European people.
>>77959276
Let's face it, Greeks are not a bright example when it come to elections. Maybe you could learn a few things from us Ahmed, so next time you don't vote for Merkel
>>77951960
The elected parliament doesn't have legislative power. Fuck off shill.
>>77947395
As bare minimum we should be a race. If you not even a race, then you are nothing at all. There is no use in EU even if they give everybody billion dollars if i wake up being a negro.
>>77947395
your country should be divided between italia and osterreich
>>77959881
It has no legislative initiative, other than that it has normal legislative powers.
But it`s not that facts interest you, no?
>>77948555
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/trash/
>>>/out/
god damn.
>>77947395
Its not an empire its a union.
a modern version of the communist union and it needs to die.
Please nigels dont trust postal votes, go out and vote at the ballots so you dont get buggered like austria.
>>77947395
>The future of the world is China, India, USA, Brazil, Russia
Kill yourself
>>77947395
>I can't believe that there's not even one positive thing said about the EU on /pol/
What are you talking about.I always speak positively about the EU.It brings me great joy to watch all the little /pol/tards foaming on their mouths and saying how evil the EU is.
Especially the americlaps. Their unspeakable butthurt and hostility towards the EU can mean only one thing.
The EU is doing some thing right.
>>77961288
Or the muricans are freedom loving bastards that can't stand tyranny
>>77961259
this
>>77947395
It's easy to be pro-EU when you don't have to pay for it.
>>77961599
checked and fucking this
The only people who are happy with the EU are the leech countries and Germany.
>>77961469
>Or the muricans are freedom loving bastards that can't stand tyranny
>living in a police state
>where their government can blackbag them at any time
>under constant watch
>afraid to speak or they will get their asses sued till they bleed
What freedom are you talking about Jamal?Their freedom to get shot by a nigger?
>>77947395
Who replaced Croatia's flag with UK's?
>>77947395
> it was created peacefully
economic warfare is still warfare
Even the Swiss are having to bow to the massive pressure the EU is hammering them with now the jewgold is running out
>>77961777
Why don't you go and check how much each country is getting in EU money.
I just checked and guess who is the country that plans to take the most EU money.
None other than Great Britain actually.
You don't believe me?Google this shit up.
>>77961989
freedom to wield guns and shoot down people who are breaking and entering :^)
The EU was a wonderful place in the 50's with De Gaulle leading the Union. He wanted an union of nations, the most wonderful alliance of all time between ancient people. Then french and german j... leftistfs did it a mix and destruction of the traditional cultures and people. They refuses the french army to become the official defense of the Continent, like under the great Napoleonian Empire, and then they opened the union to fucking underdevelopped eastern countries. That is the story.
>>77962583
Fuck you leech.
Check how much each country pays too.
>>77963689
napeolean belongs on his prison island
>>77964067
I did.
Did you?
We are very close to transitioning.That is the idea behind EU funding.Not that you will understand.
While you are at is check against population numbers,economy growth and current minimal wage.
The only country that really stands out is Greece and they are ''special''.
>>77954973
Lol every country in EU is basically murrican outpost. If any of you cucks read Brzezinski's policy papers, the goal is
1.contain Russia
2.prevent the rise of independent central euro power (aka Germany)
All those NATO bases in EU countries, Germany telling NATO bases to fuck off from is first step to get rid of EU.
Best case scenario would be for Europe to get its own version of NATO and NATO to scrapped for true independence. But that would never happen especially now with all the Russian fear mongering and the eastern EU countries begging for American cock (troops n bases) in their countries. EU will never actively challenge USA in foreign policy unless drastic change happens.
Look how quick EU politicians are considering TTIP
I'll tell you why OP. Because the population of pol is on average younger than 20 and when you are that young majority don't think clearly. Once they'll be 30+ they'll se different.
>>77947395
It was created by LYING THROUGH IT'S TEETH.
Any sane normal human being is PRO EU. That doesn't mean ofc that you actually have to agree with everything EU does and occasional is must, but no sane person is against the concept of EU.
Op you are forgetting the biggest thing in all of this and that is: you are posting on board full of losers filled with hate and quite possibly a shit ton of mental disorders. Wrong place you came to ask about EU imo. It's like trying to discuss some top shit math problem with retards. They'll just throw shit at you....
>>77952218
No, the more powerful global companies lobby the EU to fuck over smaller companies.
>>77951960
Nope, the Commission and the Council are unelected. The Parliament only exists to rubber stamp law proposed by the Commission and the Council. It can't even have a say on financial matters. It's literally worse than the Duma.
>>77965536
>ITS THE CURRENT YEAR
>ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
solid leftist argument
>>77965245
I am becoming more and more convinced that De Gaulle was right all along when he didn't let your lot in EU.
>>77956027
M-MUH NO ROAMING CHARGES WHEN ON HOLIDAY FOR A FEW DAYS THO!
>>77965705
I wish he hadn't! We thought we were joining a Free Trade Bloc. That's how it was sold to us. Instead it's trying to become a superstate.
>>77949735
underrated savagery
>>77947395
> EU has done a lot to protect against multinational mega cooperations
> TTIP
PICK ONE SHILL.
>>77947395
>a bunch of burocrats deciding what laws and regulations to pass without the member nation to have a single say or even the possibility to not accept the law
Im filled with hatred
It's like, boo hoo, you are governed by a bunch of bureaucrats that can't be voted out of office. Why don't you just take it because it's like peaceful, and stuff.
>>77952218
Those class actions are literally just robbery to support a failed union.
>gee i wonder who's pushing TTIP so hard
>surely not the anti-corporative based EU
Jesus Christ, I'm disgusted by seeing so many Slovenians here with a pro-EU sentiment.
We've only pretty much had 13 years of sovereignty before selling out to another overlord.
Are you the same people who put up stickers like "FCK NZS" "STOMP FASCISM" "RACISTS OUT" everywhere?
>>77966186
>most of the class actions are against americap jewrporations
Fuck off Jamal and go back to sucking that jew cock.
>>77965761
Yeah was kekking all the way when I read the finnish comments on the tabloid site
>finally
>oh yes eu is good
And they dont even understand that its just the tip of the carrot. Just wait for the stick, or well they wont see the stick since it has already been burried up their asses
>>77947395
I'm a tiny island. I don't even mind being or not being in the EU to a certain point.
Sure, local businesses were damaged since taxes on previously foreign EU countries were removed due to us joining the EU. We can't push back illegals coming by boat because of the EU. But on the other hand we receive more money than we contribute and I believe that's alright.
The UK is a totally different story.
>>77964786
REEEEEEEE. You Anglo's can't have any competition is all that was. Naopleon did nothing wrong and you continuous came after him. FACT Napoleon didn't start a single conflict with Britain YOU started them and have to have a fucking coalition every fucking time.
>>77966489
Now imagine competing with the EU and they high taxes and tons of trade regulations. If you did that who knows maybe your nation would be making more money as corporations both move, and get founded there.
>>77966303
What Jews? The EU fined Google 3 billion Euros. They fined Intel 1 billion Euros. They fined Microsoft over 1 billion Euros. Go back to the USSR you failed communist piece of shit.
>>77963689
DeGaul was a smart goy to keep UK out, with home France was actually independent
>>77966917
>What Jews?
>living in a jew controlled state and not knowing it
Americlaps are so detached from reality it is not even funny.
>The EU fined Google 3 billion Euros. They fined Intel 1 billion Euros. They fined Microsoft over 1 billion Euros.
Epic!They should fine them again.
>Go back to the USSR you failed communist piece of shit.
Your butthurt is showing.
>>77966730
For my country I believe it was a good decision. The people themselves decided through a referendum whether or not to join the EU and they said yes.
For example my country mostly depends on tourism. We don't have resources like other big countries and our gorgeous summer and Mediterranean climate makes foreigners from the North go crazy.
The EU in general helped us boost tourism.
Another example is the amount of investment from European based companies in Malta which totally increased when we entered the EU.
For a small country like Malta the EU helped us. The opposite can be said on larger countries or in this case specifically the UK.
>>77957924
That's why Washington warned against foreign entanglements.
>>77966685
>invades several countries
>Napoleon dindu nuffin
>>77966685
its the eternal anglos holy duty to ensure no one nation other than the anglo controls the EU
the brexit collapsing the eu is part of that.
london is the business capital of the world..new york is 2nd
we win again deus vult!
>>77947395
You are correct - it is a modern German empire. The problem with it is all benefits are void when the people leading it are statist, self-hating cucks desperate to flood the entire continent with Muslims.
>>77967300
Why would I be butthurt? I live in a great country, you live in a middling HDI ex-Soviet shithole that depends on the corporate Jews you so fear to exist.
>>77965536
nigger you're retarded
Erasmus is fine
>>77947395
>slovenia
>the eastern european version of sweden
the EU is so shit on so many levels, the free movement of workers is a horrible idea between east and west europe. the euro is a disaster. open market is a disaster for eastern europe. migrant policy is a big fuck up and so on...
>>77947395
>The EU does a LOT of good stuff to protect us against global, international predatory corporations
What, by serving their agenda?
>>77947395
Yeah I suppose its fine if you arent paying for it...
>>77947395
There must be a trend toward smaller governments rather than larger in this day of mass communication and instant travel because smaller governments are more agile and able to meet the differing needs of the people. Also, racism and hate.
Proof: if Iraq had been broken up into three countries of Kurds, Shiites, and Sunnis, then there would be stable governments instead of one corrupt government persecuting two minority groups.
