>Mfw I just ordered an AR15 from S&W because they will be banned in the USA and thus will be impossible to get here in Switzerland.
Any fellow Eurofags grabbing the last ARs before they get banned?
>>77727625
>grabbing the last ARs
Why? Isn't it a relatively under-powered rifle? Why do you want one of those, in particular?
>>77727625
It is literally political suicide to propose anti-gun legislation in the US with a republican lead congress, even with the Florida shooting.
Democrat incumbents who support those bills, barring a few in deep left states, often lose their incumbency to republicans or other dems.
Guns aren't going anywhere in the US.
Hillary will propose a ban on "assault weapons" which basically means sporting weapons that look like military weapons. It will either be unenforceable in the unlikely event it's passed (10th amendment and so on), or it will never pass.
>>77727737
Tell us o forger of great weapons, which is the best Rifle to buy?
>>77727625
Oh fuck off. It will never be banned again. People have had enough of this hippie shit.
>>77727988
FS-2000 is sexy if you've got 2k+ to spend
They won't be banned. In fact, we have multiple states with clauses in their constitution stating they have no obligation to obey any federal law. Firearms obviously are included in this.
Here in Kentucky we only obey the federal government if it coincides with our state laws, otherwise we tell them to fuck off.
>>77727737
Ar-15 is ideal for social work. Most US police departments have ditched their submachine guns in favor of AR-15s.
Ever seen the effect of M193 5.56 on a target at 150 yards or less? 5.56 military M193 ball is more damaging due to its construction at 150 yards or less than .308 is.
https://www.ar15.com/ammo/
Read it. It's good info.
>>77727988
You, too. Read it.
>>77727737
5.56 will kill anything under a moose deader than dead what are you talking about.
>>77727625
Gib citizenship pls
>>77727988
There is no best. It is subjective considering user and use.
>>77727625
Smith and Wesson? Really? Go get an Anderson or go for gold and buy a Colt since they have the actual military contracts.
Most of those S&Ws are shit. Never heard a good thing about them.
>>77728805
Market is limited because it's imported rifle.
The only "nice" ARs we can buy are 3k obscure high end brands from the US or 3k German made ARs that are only chambered in .223.
A nice MP15 will cost 1200 CHF so it's all good.
>>77728805
Military contracts mean bare minimum quality.
>>77728360
>social work
>>77728805
Colt doesn't really anymore. Their contract is token and small. Most M16s in service anymore are actually FN made. FN makes a nicer rifle at a cheaper price point. Colt is dying because they're living in the 80s.
>>77727737
>under-powered
Ok, let me shoot you with it and tell me that again.
>>77728936
That's what it's often called here to spare the sensitivities of the softer among us.
>>77727625
>AR
i want mk17s desu, no money tough
>>77727625
State nullification.
We've been getting more liberal on gun laws over the past decades and violence has been going down as well.
Realistically gun crime is low in the US considering with have more guns than people.
Remove niggers from that count its even lower, removing spics drops it even more.
>>77729162
How are gun laws in Estonia?
Also, I've been wanting to vacation to your country. Is it worth it? Will I be murdered?
>>77729162
I also want one, but it's too expensive.
I don't like to spend too much money on guns.
>>77729164
Basically this. out of the ~11,000 homicides by firearm in the US (excluding suicide) anuualy, ~8000 is organized crime or gang related and about ~7000 of that is black on black crime. Another 2,000 is police or civilian lawful use of deadly force.
So basically if you aren't gang related or a criminal, the us is as safe as most European countries.
>>77728360
With proper ammunition .308 would be quite a bit more deadly. You're right on ball ammo, though.
They are banned, but manufacture will continue. I will wait for the sale :^)
>>77727625
Don't you guys get a better rifle after conscription?
>>77727625
Why bying AR at all? It was not intended for civil use, like AK was.
>>77729511
Yeah Hornady 110 grain .308 TAP basically flies apart within 4" of hitting the target, nasty stuff. Swat snipers seem to like it. Probably one of the most potentially lethal cartridges I can think of.
>>77727625
>buying disgusting ameriburger guns when you have a based Stgw
why???
>>77729284
>How are gun laws in Estonia?
prove your not insane and know first aid, get gun.
cant own a pistol until you are 21 tough
>Also, I've been wanting to vacation to your country. Is it worth it? Will I be murdered?
no murder is just a gopnik in fight
>>77729341
I realy want a fg42, but fug reproduction is like 7k$ and a long wait list
>>77729383
The problem is they also consider suicides committed by firearms as part of those statistics as well sadly. Which is just taking advantage of the immediate situation, claiming that it is too high (Gun violence).
>>77727625
>banning guns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRSxf87WfLw
>>77729284
>>77729781
forgot to add, join militia get full auto ak4 or galil from government
>>77727625
They're not going to be banned, Nancy Pelosi herself said as much. The U.S. is not Britain/Australia.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/17/pelosi-rejects-gretchen-carlsons-assault-weapons-ban/
>>77729781
>fg42
Giggle switch is allow?
Anti-legislation targets *firearms*.
Semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns are what they are, definitions long secured by legislation and judicial precedent. A sawed off shotgun, an AR modified with the intent for fully automatic fire or short barrel rifles are examples of firearms, having features which sit outside constitutionally protected 'regular' arms.
Thus anti-legislation must, to get around the 2nd amendment's provision for private militia, must create entire new regimes of copyrighted code and administrative review and it's own procedural adherence to UCC (ATF). So if the 'citizen' is racketeered to contract for benefits (licensing) in exchange of rights, it will be done in a way to avoid the language of unrepealable congressional acts, by law merchants selling new and meaningless terms like assault rifle or firearm. Any lawyer could argue that a soda bottle is both an assault rifle and a firearm.
To ban armalite patterns according to existing laws it would have to be argued that the weapon is somehow unusual.
>banning AR-15's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz8mlB1hZ-o
>>77728313
it doesn't matter if a state has a clause in the state's constitution if it comes down to a fed law vs a state law, the fed will win and can enforce shit with the military.
I'm not saying I don't agree with the sentiment but that's like stating I don't need to obey my local laws because I only follow my own laws.
>>77729627
I already have an AK.
>>77729773
Not as fun as the AR.
>>77727625
I bought mine months ago fearing a Hillary presidency. I'm still afraid of a Hillary presidency.
>>77727625
>because they will be banned in the USA
Says who?
>>77730115
But the fed doesn't. Even rulings by district courts are ignored by states. Look at how many rulings the 9th district has made only for states like Nevada or Arizona to completely ignore them.
The US is going to Balkanize much like the Roman empire did in its twilight. The states will send politicians to the capital to pay lip service and keep up appearances, but will mostly behave unilaterally or with local provinces without federal sponsorship or even knowledge. This is the next 100 years for the US.
I don't think they're going to ban AR-15's here.
Mostly because we already banned the import of new civilian guns last I heard.
>>77727988
Depends on what you want to do with it.
AR-15's are accurate and allow for a great deal of customization.
>>77730115
>if it comes down to a fed law vs a state law, the fed will win and can enforce shit with the military.
that leads to civil wars
states do have rights and federal overreach being enforced by military will cause a war.
>>77727625
>S&W
At least get a fucking BCM.
>>77729627
Mikhail himself said that he intended for the AK to defend the Soviet Union.
>>77730544
>paying $200 extra for a Colt with BCM stamped all over it
>>77728253
>FS-2000
this plastic abomination is worth 2k? wew
>>77730881
$200 is worth the customer service difference in my opinion.
>>77731024
Mainly because they're out of production. Combine that with their unique action and ejection system and you have a collector piece, driving up price.
>>77730881
Colt doesn't do 16 inch barrels with midlength gas systems.
>s&w
just build one you lazy faggot
>>77729627
Platform isn't modular. It was intended as cheap as fuck rifle to hand out to sheep herders. It's aged incredibly poorly with little to no development to modernize it.
Doing something as having a threaded barrel is a task that requires a gunsmith for the AK platform.
>banned in the US
Nah.
Doesn't mean we're not fighting their horseshit.
>>77731033
Unless they're going to supply you with an extra barrel and bcg, you wasted your money.
>>77731108
If you are going to go midlength anyway then just build a free float gucci upper.
>>77728805
If you want premium go bravo or rock river
>>77731108
Build your own. ARs are stupidly easy to build.
>>77731314
on the other hand it's simple enough so an illiterate goatfucker or illiterate child soldier can easily maintain it.
>>77731093
what about the sig sg 550, it seems like a very robust and well crafted rifle, for what price can you get it in mil spec the us?
M16 is fun to shoot and I guess AR-15 is similar, but it's too damn expensive.
>>77729627
If ammo production is restricted, .223 will be easier to get than 7.62-39 or whichever the AK shoots I forget. At least in america
>>77729058
Jokes on you, I have been shooting myself with smaller bullets for years so the bigger ones won't hurt.
>>77727930
>Democrat incumbents who support those bills, barring a few in deep left states, often lose their incumbency to republicans or other dems.
In the house they will do fine, since the districts are so fucking gerrymandered.
>>77731672
Swiss made SIGs in the US cost a lot.
http://www.prebanarmory.com/sig-sg-551-2sp/
US made SIG-Sauer rifles, while not up to the outright build quality of the Swiss made riles are still good, and much much more affordable. ~$1,500.
>>77728360
Thank you for a serious reply.
>>77727625
>M&P15
poorfag AR
I expected better from you, Swiss.
>>77730037
Ofcourse not.
>>77731914
They stopped making the swiss clones though, now all they make ar ARs, the MCX and 556XI
>tfw I will probably never own a sig 550 or clone
>>77729781
>>77729955
Neat.
Hopefully I'll be able to visit your country one day.
>>77731983
He isn't talking about the sport.
>>77731645
If there's an abundance of parts. If a huge civilian population in the US had AKs and the US govt wanted to disarm them, all they would need to do is stop imports from Eastern Europe and Asia.
Most ammo you find in the store chambered in 7.62x34 is imported. Most parts you find are imported. The only exception to this are full built rifles and receivers that are built in the US due to current import restrictions.
>>77728658
This
>>77732167
*7.62x39
>>77727625
Sucking cock for citizenship
>>77731874
thats kinda like what girls do
except with dicks
>>77732062
You can still find gently used SIG-Sauer A1s for mid $1700ish
>>77731914
>>77732062
>tfw when I'll probably never own a gun in my life
>>77732368
I can't justify it to myself over building a super AR or a myriad of other purchases that seem much more practical.
>>77732606
Move to Canada.
>>77727625
The rats of the Democrat Party have already performed their cold calculation and determined that 50 wasted fags are not worth more than 28 dead white kids so Pelosi has already said she's not going to bother pursuing a vote on an Assault Weapons Ban.
>>77727625
US/UK citizen, all of my guns are at my bro's house in the US, including my .223 AR.
Get me Swiss citizenship.
>>77730115
Tell that to colorado
>>77731743
>.223 will be easier to get
When china produces tons of ak munition in cans and any ex-soviet have it 100 times needed for ww3?
>>77731314
> Platform isn't (((modular™®))).
Oh, ok.
> It's aged
Not an argument.
>>77732719
Pelosi gave up? What a wonderful timeline this is. Praise Trump!
>>77733903
In america, I said. If production gets limited, so will importing spamcans
>>77730657
He is NRA life-member and his quote is: My dream for Russia is - the land, where men and woman are not afraid of armed citizens, like it is in USA.
AK is for civil use, as declared by it`s original developer.
AR is not, as declared by it`s original developer.
>>77734208
How do you know .223 production wont be limited in favor of AK ammunition?
>this thread
>>77728910
Hey look! Someone who understands what milspec means!
>>77734497
If they were to put in a limit or ban it would either be comprehensive or anything more that 22lr. No way 20 caliber would be more heavily restricted than 30
At least I would think. Maybe gun grabbers are that stupid
>>77734743
As far as AR15 goes milspec does have one positive, that it will for sure shoot 5.56 nato
>>77734497
Because we own a fuckload more ARs than AKs
>>77734390
Eugene Stoner has been dead for a while now.
I also doubt that army use only was his intention since he allowed it to be sold to civilians back in the 1960's.
>>77734497
AR's can shoot other calibers if you get conversion kits.
Both .22lr and 9x19mm kits exist for the AR-15.
>>77735837
>conversion kits.
>not just building a dedicated upper in that caliber
>>77727988
AK-74
AR-15 > AK
AR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPjlcJ3rtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYfGq1yk66Q
AK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHlFfhrDn2c
Slavshit rifles belong in the trash
>>77736753
now post a video in an actual combat scenario and not imagined mall ninja shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xst-TrZeirU
>>77737029
reminds my ak4 with blank rounds
>>77736753
How much is Colt paying you?
>>77736753
no...the trash is reserved for star chamber bull shit
What are the gun Laws in Switzerlands
>>77730197
>>77731743
We in bulgaria make ak in .223. You have to get waffle mags for it and those in .223 are hard to find even here.
>>77727625
>not making your own from an 80% lower so your government doesn't know about it
>>77737029
>>77737279
>>77737283
>can't refute clear evidence
>>77737029
>now post a video in an actual combat scenario
>posts two POGs fumbling with 16s during practice
>>77737589
>t-the stories of vietnam vets dropping shit m-16s for superior slav guns are russiaboo disinfo t-trust me guys
>>77737029
To be fair ARs are better rifles
but they're a fucking nightmare to clean and maintain
The main advantage of the AK is you can put it through hell and it will still function while being very easy to maintain.
It doesn't matter anyways the FNFAL platform will always be the best
>>77732183
join army, get FAMAS
>>77737747
ARs might be better at like 200+ yards out by a few MOA compared to ak-74 and recoil but besides that AK does everything better
>>77737738
>given dirty as fuck corrosive ammo
>told that their rifle cleans itself
>rifle eventually stops functioning
>the ar15 of 2016 is the ar15 of the 60s!
>we still use corrosive ammo and lie about cleaning your gun!
Slavshitters on suicide watch
>>77738031
Literally the only environment an AK outperforms an AR is underwater.
>>77738215
not ease of use which is the main reason I prefer AK
>>77738054
>ur not lubin it right!
>>77737738
M16A1 is the best AR imo
>that full auto
Far better than AK47 or SKS or Nagant.
AK74 is where it truly got challenged.
>>77738031
Depends on the AK. Milled ak are more accurate. Good ak do 2-2.5 moa witch is standart for that kind of rifle, 2k rifles like tavor or sig 550 series do 2 moa. Also I'm tired of comparing 2k AR with match ammo to no frills but good quality AK with some el cheapo steelcase ammo that cost 5 times less. There are good military ammo (brass) that performs like match ammo and most ak get around 2 moa. That kind of ammo don't get imported because is in short demand and usually whats left go on local market where hunters buy it all for like 2 week and then you have to wait 2 months for new batch.
>>77727625
Good. No one needs an assault rifle.
>>77738354
>insert magazine
>pull charging handle back
>let go
>pull trigger
Same manual of arms
But look!
>push button free falling magazines instead of rocking in and out
Seems like a + for ease of use to the AR
>bolt hold open and release
Another + for the AR
>>77738469
>you are not lubing it at all and shooting thousands upon thousands of rounds of corrosive ammunition in a very humid environment 47 years ago
wow Ak
such advantage
very impress
>>77727625
From my understanding its a shitty weapon, James Holmeses jammed up twice and he actually had to throw it away and use his pistols.
He had to stop, under a light, in the middle of his massacre and was trying to unjam it.
>>77738553
What's the best quality AK parts kit and best place to get it right now?
This thread is making me want another AK
>>77727625
you're now on a watchlist
>>77738215
The Fins did some tests with various rifles back in the 80's when they adopted the RK-95.
Turns out that the sheer cold of the Finnish winter caused the AR to seize up while AK derived rifles like the AK-74 and Galil worked just fine.
Then again I don't assume that he's going to use the rifle in freezing environments.
>>77737747
How is the FNFAL better than AR and AK?
>>77738719
that's why they have a button for jams
>>77727625
>>77729627
Just get a battle riffle, its superior to the AR and AK in every way.
>>77727625
How do I move to your country? I have a sought after degree.
>>77738553
>Milled ak are more accurate
This is horse shit
>Also I'm tired of comparing 2k AR with match ammo to no frills but good quality AK
a $600 beater AR will outshoot and outperform a $1200 Arsenal
>>77738807
Need to change to arctic lubes
>>77738909
that's if it is actually able to fire a round
>>77728141
Can't wait to see your face after new regulations are passed Jeb. Lmao
>>77738848
Well apparently it doesnt work, or Im not understanding the humor in a joke.
IIRC from the news I think related to the trial, it said he just threw it away because it was useless, big AR with a massive drum clip, I think it said he was 30 rounds in.
>>77727625
fucking retard, euro produce their own kind of AR15 you don't need usa
>>77738808
>How is the FNFAL better than AR and AK?
Its a battle rifle for starters so right off the bat it has superior cartridge.
>>77739010
I think it had more to do with the tolerances and the parts shrinking in the cold.
The tighter tolerances mean that the rifle is more accurate but it also means that insane drops in temperature will result in parts not working properly.
Then again you might as well get a rifle that's designed to work in the cold like the Sig SG-550
>>77739046
Again, the only "evidence" you have is retards that can barely point the firearm in the right direction let alone chamber a round.
>>77739154
.308 AR > FAL
>>77739113
yea AR is finicky with it's magazines and the button is only useful for certain jams where the bullet didn't chamber all the way
>>77739240
I thought you said it was easy to operate. Does the army let anyone have a gun now without any training?
>>77727737
Not sure how much ammo is lying about in Sweden, but in the US we have literally billions of 5.56 and .223 rounds stockpiled between military and private stores. (Shit, DHS bought two billion rounds themselves just to prepare for the upcoming civil war, when the Government has to kill lots of Americans...)
In a SHTF situation the gun you can keep fed is better than a more exotic weapon that can shoot through tanks.
Obv. in countries where the 7.62 is king that's how you should go there.
It's still a fine round and will still penetrate a car door or 3/8" of mild steel to kill whatever is behind it. That's not bad.
Both 5.56 and 7.62 will cut through a standard police issue LIII-A vest. Neither a 5.56 nor a 7.62 FMJ will penetrate LIII (rifle rated) body armor plate unless you're firing AP. (Civilian legal "steel penetrators" can't do it.) In that case both rounds will penetrate LIII, but both will be stopped by LIV. If a SWAT team wearing ceramic plates is busting down your door to seize your guns, you want enough accuracy to be able to shoot for the face, which the AR will do just fine.
>>77739244
I should probably start a /k/ thread but I dont care that much, I heard the orlando guy used a gas recoil based AR and that the AR-15 is a "direct impingement"
Pros cons between them? Pretty sure AK's are gas recoil systems like that too, his was uhh.. swiss I think.
>>77739189
US uses artic lube and ARs will work fine, hell it's preferable to run the AR dry than to use lube that freezes
Even if you are using an ak/sig you should use arctic lube so that you don't just have frozen lubed parts/dry parts wearing eachother down.
>>77739370
It's very easy, some people have problems with simple things.
Like you and accepting that the AR is better than the AK.
>>77739566
they are both gas recoil
the Orlando guy had a piston gas recoil AR which is superior like the AK
>>77739753
>>77739753
Yea the word piston was included, I didnt realize there was that subtle of a difference.
Someone called it a "piston gun" now that you reminded me.
![811_big[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/nXJH6Xb.gif "811_big[1].gif")
>>77738732
I don't know what is imported to USA but i can tell you what is the best one made here if you like.
Notice 3 things if you look for this rifle - milled, safety lever on right side of the grip, and barrell is shorter than usual ak lenght - its 280mm. If you can get one like this it is the best. Shorter barreled ones cant stabilise the bullet like they have to, and this shorter barrel is more stiff + stiff milled recever make it way more accurate than normal ak.
>>77739661
It's ultimately a matter of preference. You keep your range toy I'll be getting stuff done with my slavshit ;)
>>77739863
>>77739753
So its just a recoil thing then, it shows they both redirect gasses, but the piston vents it where as the DI puts it into the gun again.
>>77739566
He used a Sig Sauer MCX
>Pros cons between them?
AR was designed on DI
less moving parts
Quieter
Suppresses better
Can't shoot them when the gas tube is full of water and it directs gas backwards whereas a piston vents it at the handguard
>>77739896
>It's ultimately a matter of preference
Not really, the AR is objectively better.
>You keep your range toy I'll be getting stuff done with my slavshit
Sure you will, just make sure not to ever take it outside and I'm sure it will work most of the time.
>>77727625
>Little assault rifles
Yanks are fucking pussies. Can't handle a real weapon. Pic related.
Can we stop comparing AKs to ARs now?
Also, battle rifles are a pain in the ass, they only work well if you're in a squad, otherwise, they're just a handicap imo.
>>77739877
Wow, that looks nice.
Im in Harrogate
an last nite I had a browning 9mil .. an sig sayer .. p220 ....15 rounds .. both .. weapons on uk streets easy ..:)
>>77739877
>Shorter barreled ones cant stabilise the bullet like they have to
Is it's 5.45 that's not an issue
>and this shorter barrel is more stiff + stiff milled receiver make it way more accurate than normal ak.
Stiff receivers have no affect on accuracy, the bullet has left the barrel before receiver flex occurs and milled AK receivers have been known to crack through heavy use or dropping.
Stamped receivers flex and will lead to a longer receiver life and more durable to drops/being run over.
>>77727625
How is your country in term of demographics?
Free of shit skins?
>>77727988
>scar 17
>sig 551
>some ars, like d defense, knight armament etc.
>>77727988
also get the damn ak and get over it
>>77740107
*Real* men fight with *real* weapons, faggot.
>>77740427
Nope the one on pic is .223 its not 5.45x39.
I'd rather get an AK-47 or a decent variant thereof. Yeah, it's unAmerican as fuck since I'm a clapistani, but it's more reliable and cheaper so I don't really mind. AR-15 is a meme at this point.
also op, are bt aprs civil owned in switzerland?
have you shot one?
probably sexiest sniper rifle with pgm
>>77740560
>Pussy wheels for pussy leaf
I expected nothing less. Fucking queer.
>>77740662
Then you can go pretty short, I have a 7 inch AR pistol that can ring steel at 182 meters
Although you can't take advantage of screaming .223/5.56 exploding on impact without a longer barrel.
>>77740672
>but it's more reliable
This is a meme
>and cheaper
You can build a quality AR for like $650
>>77740428
not OP but
>How is your country in term of demographics?
On paper shit, 25% foreigners but once you look behind that, it's almost all western european. pic related.
>Free of shit skins?
We have some and one city that is actually a lost cause (Geneva) else it's pretty good.
>>77738553
>milled AK are more accurate
[citation needed]
>>77737747
Pull the bolt out and lube it once every few hundred rounds
Run some solvent through the chamber and bore every thousand.
ARs aren't hard to clean you lazy faggot. You want a gun even a little hard to break down and maintain, look at the mini 14
>>77740707
Bent-tooth faggots like you are so limp-wristed it makes me puke. I bet you wear water-wings in the tub.
>>77730521
To the delight of local gun manufacturers, I bet. Lack of importation creates an unnecessary monopoly.
>>77741460
>look at the mini 14
Dear god
>now take the bolt and twist it 180 degress inside the receiver without touching the edges or a buzzer goes off
>>77741039
>>but it's more reliable
>This is a meme
How so? Everything I've ever read said so.
>>77741039
>This is a meme
Ive seen an AK put in a bucket of water, submerged in mud, mud packed into the spaces where it could be put into, the barrel end and breech etc... been run over by a hummer and more, and it fired like it was brand new.
You cant do that to almost any other weapon, besides maybe some special purpose high tech military gear.
>>77741529
>Implying there isn't a risk of drowning
>>77741452
What cittation. I have tried enough AK. We make both, we have russian ones selling here as well if someone is stupid enough to buy it. You have arsenal junk that sells here for around 300 usd and you buy them for 1000 because you have more money than sence. You haven touch good ak in your life. Case and point the "godlike" ak with walther barres and all bells and whistles you pay 2k usd for they sell here for little more than 570 usd locally.
>>77727625
>I'm going to buy a killing machine
>because they might be banned, preventing needless death
????
What went wrong with humanity?
>>77741993
I'm guessing you heat the water up to a comfortable temperature. Like a woman. Sad.
>>77741907
Minus the hummer, I've done all of that with my No 4. Combat rifles were built to take a beating, friend. The AK is not unique in this regard.
>>77742208
>>because they might be banned, preventing needless death
>less than 300 people killed a year with all rifles
>ar15s used to kill people are a subsection of that fraction of a percentage of guns
>easily the most effect home defense tool in the world
>What went wrong with humanity?
It spat your pussy ass out.
>>77742403
i bet he uses soap too. hahah what a pussy
>>77742668
>Don't be a pussy man, just live in a society where mass murders are a regular thing, you pussy
Why don't you go live in Africa if you want to compensate for your tiny penis? Don't take your sexual incompetence out on the rest of us
>>77742921
>just live in a society where mass murders are a regular thing
>more people killed by lightning that mass shootings
>tens of millions of AR15s laying around
Why don't you move to a faggot country instead of trying to change mine?
Wish I could just buy a Sig 551. We can't get legit 551s here without paying a fortune because of Bill Clinton. And his wife will finish off the AR to boot.
Fucking sucks.
>>77728805
>S&W is shit
Uhhhh I have an M&P10 and it's an excellent battle rifle.
>>77740672
>decent variant of AK
>cheaper
protip: they're not
