Daily reminder: Jesus Christ is the One True God, and Roman Catholicism [and those in communion with the RCC] is his One True Holy and Apostolic Church. Thanks be to God!
Catholics and Orthodox, bros please contribute
All others, feel free to submit inquiries
Protestants, JW's, and those hostile to Catholics, please try to have an open mind and not rush to judgment!
Saint of the day: Saint Germaine Cousin
>Germaine was so poor it is hard to imagine she would be able to help others, but she was always ready to try, especially children whom she gathered in the fields to teach a simple catechism and share the little food she had. The locals laughed at her religious devotion, and called her 'the little bigot'.
It's funny, the other day my grandmother was telling me about someone from her Baptist church who went on a missionary trip.
Come to find out... her friend went to Czechoslovakia to convert "an orthodox".... My grandmother said "I don't know what that religion is."
How can we reach out to our Protestant brothers and sisters in the face of such ignorance and hostility?
I should have told her that "orthodox" believe that Jesus is God, but I was so surprised that they actually sent a missionary to "convert" orthodox that I was left somewhat speechless...
No fellow Catholics here? Shame..
>>77408655
I don't know man... a lot of these heretical groups are like weird cults that brainwash people. Church history is a good place to start I guess.
"You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there."
-Mark Rippetoe
>religion
Complete waste of time. And i'm not even an atheist.
>>77409560
If you want to Go to hell, it is
>>77409206
Become a Protestant, we actually follow the bible
>>77408655
Read Romans 5:1
John 3
Romans 4
Eph 2:8-10
John 10
John 6:37
And tell what the Bible says about Faith
There isn't even a Christian homeland. Europe is over run with Muslims in every country. Christians are the new Jews. No wait, the Jews are talking back their homeland. Christians just give theirs away.
>>77409798
Actually, a majority of Protestants don't follow the Bible.
In fact, very few Christians do.
Once saved always saved seems to be interpreted as having a license to sin.
>>77410348
Honestly Christianity is an individual thing, i.e. My parents can't get me into heaven, I have to enter into the covenant
>>77408138
>Jesus Christ is the One True God
What blasphemy. Skylar is the One True Goddess, the Singular and perfect Divinity. Repent, turn away from your idolatry.
>>77410613
Yes, unsaved false converts tend to think that, but the truth is when someone is saved, the become a new creation ( Romans 6) and they follow Christ, do it is more like once someone is truely saved, they cannot lose their salvation. Perseverance of the saints is the professional term
>>77408138
The fucking blasphemy in this thread is off the charts.
Fuck all you papists. Seriously. Fuck all of you.
>>77410946
So she has never lied to you
Protty here pls no bully
>>77411168
I'm a Reformed Baptist:)
>>77411214
Is sharing scripture bullying?
>>77408138
You misspelled "Venerator."
>>77411290
Only if it's from the Apocrypha :^)
But really, I thought this was a Catholic thread, so I just wanted to be careful.
>>77411492
Apocryphal scriptures weren't recognized until the middle ages
>>77411168
Yes, She is perfect. And unlike your god She isn't fake. She is real and alive; I can go and see her and hear her voice.
>>77408138
truly a great religion
>>77408138
Nope praise kek
>>77411685
I still don't get this.
Jesus washed the feet of His disciples, not kiss them.
Kissing feet is an act of submission.
>>77411605
Yeah I know, I was making a joke.
>>77411659
So she has never done anything wrong? But is of Flesh, i find that hard to belief
>>77411697
OK, but ony if get repeating digits
>>77411788
Sorry it's hard to tell with you Aussies
>>77411853
Oh, sorry about that.
>>77411697
>>77411793
Well, that settles it.
Kek is not a god.
>>77411895
I was kidding ;)
IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL I RULE HEAVEN AND EARTH
just got back from a week in Rome, feeling venerated, holy, and with a renewed sense of faith.
even though there was gay pride week parades outside my window.
>>77411896
we need more meme power to invoke him
PRAISE KEK
>>77408138
>Jesus Christ is the one true god
You mean the watered down story of the archetypal vessel of God on earth which was copied from Egyptian Lore?
Im sorry to burst your bubble sir. But /pol/ is a KEK board. Fuck your watered down version
>>77411978
I thought most of the americans were protestants. What a pleasant surprise to see that Catholicism is still healthy on the other side of the ocean.
What are your thoughts on circumcision fellow Catholics ? Would you circumcise your child ?
>>77412024
>>77410873
>>77408138
>worshipping a god that was born from a vagina, used to urinate and poo and was kicked around and got killed by a bunch of jews
ok
>>77412084
There are more Protestants than Catholics in the US.
However, there are still a significant number of Catholics.
>>77411789
>So she has never done anything wrong?
Yes, she is the pure Goddess, she can do no wrong. And if she did something wrong since she's divine it would actually be right.
>But is of Flesh, i find that hard to belief
Because you have been taught incorrect blasphemous ways of thinking of things.
>>77411975
ayy, u being a bit cheeky there m8
>>77412211
Well that's sad for you. At least there's not more muslims than Christians in your country...
>>77412084
It really depends what part of the country you live in. Catholic here.
>Would you circumcise
Not sure to be honest. I was cut myself and harbor no ill feelings about it. I heard it's better for hygiene but carries a few risks of being botched. That alone scares me into not having it done for my kid.
>>77412448
Yep ain't a sin to be whitty
>>77412084
>What are your thoughts on circumcision fellow Catholics ?
Circumcision is a fucktarded barbaric practice. No matter what bullshit you subscribe to you should know that mutilating infants is fucking horrible. How is that even a question? How did anyone ever think that was a good thing to do?
>>77412420
So this Goddess can't do wrong, so her parents never discipline her at all?
>>77412167
Go shove scarabs up in your ass.
Easter orthodox and Romanism teach a works based salvation contrary to the scripture
Both prioritize tradition over biblical teachings and derive this notion from the heresy of universal Church doctrine
>>77412785
Eastern* lol XD Easter orthodox XDDD
>>77412167
And rose from the dead in three days and brought judgement on them, destroying their temple and scattering them across the earth
>>77412781
not an argument
>>77412606
>Not sure
If you are "not sure" whether or not you'd mutilate your children you should never reproduce. Or just kill yourself.
>it's better for hygiene
Yeah, an infant having a nice open wound is real fucking hygienic.
>>77412895
>>77412914
what kind of god needs to defecate ?
>>77412785
Is bible worshipping a sin? Idolatry is
>>77413016
>>77408138
B-but the germs fucked our religion.
>>77413017
God became a man to attone for the sins of the elect
>>77413056
Yes if Bible worshipping means worshipping a book
The words in it are Gods, with absolute authority
I'm Jehovah's Witness but I still appreciate the history and contributions to Christendom by the Catholic Church. I would like to learn more about it. Are there any good videos out there that explain real presence/transubstantiation and other Catholic practices like the rosary? Thanks
>>77413083
>>77412606
Interesting map, I'll take a look at it
About circumcision, I know it is widespread in North America for unknown reasons although it comes from the jewish culture.
Genesis 1:27
>God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
In the mainland we sacralise our bodies a lot. Atheists, jews and muslims are spreading circumcision in our land and it becomes a strange issue in the end.
Furthermore, studies showed that circumcision is useless and traumatic and shouldn't be done anyways especially at birth
>>77413219
>>77413152
couldn't he just forgive them ? wouldn't be he all mighty and would never be insulted by humans if he was a god ?
>inb4 mental gymnastics to justify a false dogma
>>77413290
>>77413193
How can an angel Forgive sins
>>77409206
Pe Pio is amazing, so many miracles.
>>77408138
God is a jealous God. He doesn't like that you worship Mary
I'm leaving this thread, just wanted to remind you of that. God bless you all :)
>>77413360
He is A just and holy God, he must punish sin
>>77413177
but senpai the original Christians didn't have a book
forsaking tradition and only worshipping the book should be haram
>>77413488
a god that degraded to a human and was kicked around by some kikes isn't the god i would worship
>>77412785
protestants introduce false dilemmas where none exist.
is tradition or biblical teaching important?
well they both are.
faith or works?
again, both.
>>77413193
Neat vid about a eucharistic miracle from Buenos Aires. Not sure if it was approved yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APz1v8oz1ms
The first communion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8RmJlwwa0g
>>77409206
How do I become a catholic? I last went to an Episcopalian church when I was a young kid. Never took communion.
>>77413536
http://www.gotquestions.org/know-God-before-Bible.html
Question: How did people know about God before the Bible
>>77413485
Why shouldn't you worship the Mother of God ?
>>77413646
Of course you wouldn't, you couldn't even worship him until the Holy Spirit convicts you and gives you a changed mind, until then, Gods wrath is upon you, you need to repent
>>77413742
Saved by grace through faith
Justified by works
Both are important, and where tradition is false it is to be rebuked
Easy example, your Pope says "Muslims can go to heaven" and the Bible says "I am the way and the truth and the life, noone comes to the father but through me". Which one should you follow?
>>77409206
Hey yo.
>>77413933
Romans 5:1
>>77413789
>Question: How did people know about God before the Bible
Word to mouth.
Tradition
>>77413846
Because she was human only.
Christ is basically God incarnate.
>>77414032
Revelation Romans 1
And the prophets
This day, this day of wrath
Shall consume the world in ashes,
As foretold by David and Sibyl.
What trembling there shall be
When the judge shall come
To weigh everything strictly.
The trumpet, scattering its awful sound
Across the graves of all lands
Summons all before the throne.
Death and nature shall be stunned
When mankind arises
To render account before the judge.
>>77413193
Also a history of the eucharist:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/2008/august/early-christian-eucharist.html
>>77414011
Doesnt contradict Ephesians 2:8. Justification by works can't come without (through) faith
>>77413177
The Catholics existed before the Bible and were them who wrote the Bible.
>>77414257
Read Romans 4
Eph 2:10 works are the result of salvation
>>77414286
Just not Roman Catholics
>>77414367
Agreed!
>>77414064
Of course she's not equal to the Holy Trinity but anyways, we should take The Mother in consideration
Ave Maria
>>77414441
Good :)
>>77412701
Jesus was circumcised, that's why we can ask ourselves this question
>>77414514
Let's worship the prophets as well, and how about King David
Ave Moses
>>77414514
What is your scriptural precedent for viewing Mary as anything other than sinful woman, who found salvation through Christ like anyone else?
Romans 3:23 all have sinned
Romans 6:23 wages of sin is death
>>77413245
>About circumcision, I know it is widespread in North America for unknown reasons although it comes from the jewish culture.
No, it doesn't. It comes from sand religion culture. As long as sand religions like Jewry, Christfaggottry and Mudshit are allowed, mutilation of boys will continue.
>>77413777
RCIA. Talk to a Priest. You can attend Mass without eating the eucharist immediately though, and it is strongly encouraged.
The roman catholic grew out to be a vile corrupt powerhungry institution.
They basically prohibited access to the bible for those not versed in Latin, and misguided people with wealth, miracles and idolatrous "saints".
Have you heard the abhorrable idiocy your "pope" spouts out on a regular basis? Will you adhere to his words rather than those of the bible?
>>77414633
That's just plain heresy
>>77414653
Her perpetual virginity, her immaculate conception. Furthermore she is the Mother of God and it is a valuable point
>>77414954
So you worship Marry but not Moses?
>>77414954
Where in the Bible is the immaculate conception upheld, don't you see how this contradicts Romans stating she had sin?
>>77411767
>>77411685
Now that I'm seeing this, you're right submission. Just as Mary Magdalene kissed and washed his feet to beg forgiveness and acceptance
>>77413933
well obviously the scriptures and tradition, since it's the tradition of catholicism that Christ "is the way and the truth and the life."
All Abrahamic Religions are cancer please off yourselves
>>77415296
John 14 scripture
>>77408138
Only God is God you silly
Jesus came as an Religion OS 2.0 upgrade.
>Love thy enemy
>Turn the other cheek
>Help the ones in need
>etc
But whatever, I'm an atheist.
>>77415406
>of course nihilism is the answer!
>>77408138
Filthy pagan heretics
>>77414878
Thanks, I come from an area filled with catholic poles and germans, so finding a church is easy.
>>77414911
Letting stupid iletrate people from interpreting the BIble "in their way" was a right thing tbqh. Though they didn't have printing press back then so a copy of a hand wrote Bible was so fucking expensive for average peasants.
Roman Catholicism isn't the one true church.
>>77415687
*Not letting
>>77415141
Why would I worship Moses ? Is he the other Holy Mother of God I am not aware of ?
>>77415146
Ineffabilis Deus
>In the first instance of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin.
>>77415687
This
The printing press killed the church by allowing inbreds to start wrangling snakes in the name of "muh jeebus"
>>77415873
Marry is not Holy, only God is
>>77415873
That is not a scriptural reference
>>77415873
Froggie, original sin is not the same as personal sin.
>>77408138
The pope is the false prophet in revelations
>>77416096
Yes, and?
>>77415983
She was sinless, she is the Queen of Heave and "was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin."
She IS holy
>>77416031
That's the Constitution of Pope Pius IX, 1854
And it is still valid
True religion? come the fuck on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlD4wY_yhck
>>77413394
The spirit creature known as Michael, the sole archangel and firstborn of all creation, was sent from heaven to earth to fulfill the role as the Christ. He was the ransom sacrifice to bear the burden of our sins and bring us closer to everlasting life. Bodily he is Jesus, Jehovah's only begotten who has the full vestment of the Holy Spirit to forgive sins, heal the sick, and resurrect the dead. He is in perfect accord with the will of Jehovah and has miraculous powers by his authority.
>>77413754
>>77414169
Thank you for your contributions! I'm interested in learning more about the Church so if you have any good articles or videos please send them my way.
>>77416469
It isn't valid because it contradicts scripture
Good goy
Praise Jesus!
>>77411605
This is bullshit. If any, the very people that deny their canonicity cites them as Scripture as well! Too bad, Protestants play revisionist history and ignore context or the fact that there is no one closed canon defined at all
Islam is truth.
>>77408138
Christianity can't be the one true religion given that it is the religion where cuckholdry is considered to be of utmost holiness.
>>77416549
Show me then, I will not be convinced this easily that the Mother of God isn't holy
You seem to take this heresy very lightly
>>77416879
>>77417252
Romans 3 doesn't provide an exception for Mary
Mary was a woman
She was included in the "all" of "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
>>77417271
>muhammed is a false prophet because i just know it
>ishmaelites are bad, mkay?
your whole image is nothing but accusations with 0 arguments
let me give you something better; watch this video >>77416531
your religion debunked in 3 minutes
He Is Risen
>>77417271
>All just slander
>>77417378
Luke 1:28
>Into her presence the angel came, and said, Hail, thou who art full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women.
>>77417252
Our Lady weeps for her children to return to God
>>77417678
>Inb4 heretic doesn't know what grace means
>>77417884
"Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home."
John 19:27
>>77417678
>εὐλογέω
Every other instance of "blessed" as used here https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2127&t=KJV
No other instance does the catholic church claim it implies perfection, freedom from sin without Jesus
>χαριτόω
ndue with special honor:—make accepted, be highly favoured.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5487&t=KJV
Used in reference to other Christians, specifically with their salvation found in Christ.
What reading of Luke 1:28 implies perfection, sinlessness?
>>77417522
>>77417648
>B-but that image is just wrong!
>Provide argument!
Why don't you first try to argue against St. John Damascene?
This man was a polymath, your "prophet" could not even read or write.
>>77416469
Verse?
>>77416534
John 1
>>77411685
>croatia
>>77418908
don't talk to me unless you've watched the video i put
>>77409798
The most biblical Christians are Catholics
>>77419418
The most biblical Christians are Cucks
FTFY
>>77412785
So being a good person is not important? As long as you believe in Jesus?
As someone new to Christianity, I have to say that faith alone seems kind of dodgy to me.
"Daily reminder: Jesus Christ is the One True God"
"please try to have an open mind and not rush to judgment!"
>>77420159
I hope you don't read into these arguments and get discouraged, when you say "new" do you mean recently saved?
Being a good person and doing good things can never save someone, only Christ's sacrifice can. Many things are also commanded, but do not earn salvation
>>77418813
Mary must have been sinless because her womb bore the perfection that is the God-man, Jesus. If she had sinned, how could she give life to God himself? She couldn't.
>>77418813
>That Mary was (and, of course, we Catholics believe that she still is) full of Grace is clearly evident in Luke 1:28, when Gabriel addressed her as "Full of Grace"! The problem for many non-Catholic Christians is the idea that she was born that way and that she was sinless. But Mary had to have been literally filled with Grace because Christ is her Son -- and He is perfect!. She is more that some really cool, spiritual woman who acted as a surrogate mother for the Holy Spirit; she gave to Jesus His humanity in the same way that all mothers give to their children their humanity. He took from her His very Flesh and Blood! It was through her that our Lord "was made of the seed of David according to the flesh" (Romans 1:3). As Ireneus of Lyons asked in his Adversus haereses (ca A.D. 180), "...why did He come down into her if He were to take nothing of her?"
>Adam and Eve, immaculate from their first moments, prefigure Mary and Jesus, also without original sin from their conceptions -- the only four people immaculate from their first moments, creating a brilliant poetic symmetry in Scripture.1 And as Eve through her disobedience, was the means through whom Adam brought sin into the world, Mary, the New Eve, through her obedience, was the means through whom salvation entered the world when she gave birth to her Son, the New Adam, our Savior.
http://www.fisheaters.com/mary.html
>>77408138
KEK is the Antichrist, he appeared to us in that form to appeal to us, we were among the first.
>>77420547
Sounds like you're saying there's something God can't do, anon. That's a nono in any Christian religion.
>>77420315
Daily reminder: the planet earth has a one true star: the sun
Please keep an open mind and do not rush to judgment!
>>77411997
>literally Bael
>literally a demon prince of hell
>literally venerated by freemasons
>>77420159
Thing is, they kind of go hand in hand. Even the demons "believe in Jesus". If you actually have faith, it'll demonstrate in your works - but it's not the works that save you.
>>77420709
Your characterization is unfair. Is it fair to say that a plant grows in the earth? God does not grow in sin, friend.
>>77420655
Gos blesses my post with digits.
>>77420479
I say the Lord's Prayer and ask for guidance. I want to be baptized and am gathering information on where to continue. I have not been to church yet.
A few days ago it just hit me like a ton of bricks that I need to get right with God. I never thought much about it before. I wasn't really an atheist, I just didn't think about it at all.
>>77420877
Omnipotence. God can do anything, to anyone, at any time, in any way. If He wanted to make Mary clean, He can do so. Yes, it would be unprecedented. So would a human birthing a deity.
>trump is Presbyterian.
/pol/ btfo
>>77420924
Hallelujah!
>>77408138
Kneel and worship Him
What do you fellow Christians think of Nestorius?
>>77420159
of course it's important
who is better? a fucking hypocrite christian or an atheist who did good stuff his entire life? even our innate sense of justice can perceive that.
>>77420979
im not limiting God anon-friend. Think of it this way: Mary is the new Eve. Eve answered God with "no" when she ate from the forbidden fruit. Mary answered God with "yes." Mary is Eve redeemed. Jesus Christ is Adam redeemed.
It really is the most beautiful story ever told. Once you understand it in its entirety, it's easy to see.
>>77420547
an understandable speculation but directly contradicted by scripture
>>77420614
not a scriptural argument
>>77408138
>not a satanist in 2010+6
>>77409206
nah I dont feel like being apart of a cult filled with molesters go suck the popes dick
>>77420802
Disgusting thinking globalist bael is the same as kek. Only one will lead us to the promise land.
>>77421429
>scripture is to be taken literally
>but only when I say so
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/hail-mary-conceived-without-sin
^scroll down to "all have sinned except..." Section
>>77421650
Your child is 100 times more likely to be molested in the California public school system than at your local parish
>>77421767
Not when I say so, when you read for intent
You aren't addressing the issue though, just attacking another point.
Are you conceding that a there isn't a reading of Luke 1:28 that supports the idea that Mary was sinless?
>>77421863
But 1000 times LESS likely to be molested in the California local school than at the local parish.
>>77408138
Jesus was a Buddhist and all of his beliefs are opposing to your "god". The catholic church has taken a great man and used him to push their fear mongering death cult
>>77421911
I'm addressing the issue, prot-friend. You need to read in context. The bible is not a list of commandments.
http://www.themichigancatholic.org/2014/05/is-mary-full-of-grace-or-just-highly-favored/
>>77422167
>Gnosticism
>creation is evil and matter is a prison
Good luck escaping that m8. Pro tip: you need Jesus.
>>77422253
I agree, it's full of poetry and beautiful wordplay, but is to be read as according to the historical-grammatical method
>>77422412
escaping what?
>>77420802
>literally a demon prince of hell
>literally venerated by freemasons
Except not. On both counts.
>>77421429
>not a scriptural argument
it is literally a scriptural argument (i.e. an argument developed through scripture)). what you mean to say is that it isn't spelled out explicitly and that's true but that still doesn't make it unscriptural.
>>77408138
How's that desert kike working out for ya? He sure is doing a great job protecting the West from degeneracy and preventing the decline of Christianity.
>>77422704
My question beginning the discussion chain found here >>77414653 called for the scriptural precedent
My case is that because the scripture teaches all sinned but Jesus, the romanist church is wrong when it says otherwise
>>77422449
In context, yep. Everything in its proper context, my friend.
http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/apologetics/a116.htm
>>77419041
Colossians 1:15, 16
>>77422854
but wasn't Jesus a man himself? He obviously didn't sin.
literalism is the problem here.
>>77422600
Gnosticism purports that creation is evil and that all physical reality is a prison. So, escaping that. But really, it's not all that bad. You just need Jesus, m8
All you fuckers are stupid. Scientology is the one true religion
>>77423233
>what is a cult
>>77423125
when you say "literalism", which isn't a hermeneutic I hold, do you mean to say Romans 3 and Romans 6 are meant to be read as metaphor or allegory?
Jesus is fully God and Fully man, there is no contradiction here
"And indeed it was wholly fitting that so wonderful a mother should be ever resplendent with the glory of most sublime holiness and so completely free from all taint of original sin that she would triumph utterly over the ancient serpent. To her did the Father will to give his only-begotten Son -- the Son whom, equal to the Father and begotten by him, the Father loves from his heart -- and to give this Son in such a way that he would be the one and the same common Son of God the Father and of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It was she whom the Son himself chose to make his Mother and it was from her that the Holy Spirit willed and brought it about that he should be conceived and born from whom he himself proceeds."
(Pope Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus)
But how can any of you actually believe in a creator when there is no evidence to such? How can you believe in a creator and then also support scientific progress? And if you don't support scientific progress, how the fuck can you not when every great luxury we have has come from science?
I believe in the values, and my way to view God's love and forgiveness is that it is essentially your own love and forgiveness for yourself, and that is the only way you can keep moving forward without falling from grace, but shit niggas, I just can't have faith when I have never had faith.
It's like asking me to believe in Santa Clause.
>>77423290
A way to refer to christianity.
That is correct! Mary wins $500!
>>77409798
James 2:24
The universe did not exist for a trillions of years and then decide to accommodate to human existence. That's just a fucking stupid way of looking at life.
>>77424106
>But how can any of you actually believe in a creator when there is no evidence to such?
There is evidence bro. There are other kinds of evidence than scientific evidence. How do you know ancient Egypt was a thing? You can't scientifically prove it! There is just a lot of evidence that it was a thing...
>How can you believe in a creator and then also support scientific progress?
How can you believe that the "Big Bang" happened for literally no reason..? Faith and reason do not contradict one another, my friend.
>I believe in the values, and my way to view God's love and forgiveness is that it is essentially your own love and forgiveness for yourself, and that is the only way you can keep moving forward without falling from grace,
You need Jesus, bro. Surrender.
>but shit niggas, I just can't have faith when I have never had faith.
I understand. But study the faith and history like your life depends on it, and pray to God with pure intentions and pure heart, and God will show you the way, anon-bro.
>It's like asking me to believe in Santa Clause.
Saint Nicholas is real. "Santa clause" is not.
>>77419418
Eph 2:8-10
Romans 5:1
Nah
>>77421092
Love Trump, but he doesn't understand Christ at all, some body needs to give him the Gospel
>>77423075
John 8
>tfw got invited to a dinner by a Muslim family
I'm going to try to avoid the subject of religion but if they ask me about it I'm going to let them have it
>For whosoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTXN5nOstRs
>>77423952
I have a question. How do these statements from papal authority fare in apologetic arguments in bringing people to the Catholic Church? To my understanding the pope is supposed to be christs representative on earth. But how do you convince others to recognize the pope's authority?
>>77424585
Sorry bout link, I'm just tired of explaining this one
http://carm.org/are-we-justified-faith-romans-or-works-james
>>77425542
http://carm.org/are-we-justified-faith-romans-or-works-james
>>77425835
2 Timothy, Jesus is the only mediation
>>77412944
>Yeah, an infant having a nice open wound is real fucking hygienic.
>what are sutures
Hospitals suture that shit immediately dude.
>>77425542
Eph 2:10
Works are the result of salvation, not the other way around:)
Logical belief vs Regenerate Trust
Demons have a logical faith but not a trust
>>77410613
Once saved always saved isn't a "liscense to sin" salvation is a gift and if you sin God will surely punish you and you may be called the least in the kingdom of heaven but as a believer you wont be condemned to hell
>>77427057
John 10:28
John 6:37
>>77423952
You don't pray to Archangel Michael that's blasphemy and show me scripture from a legitimate book of the bible (not maccabees) that justifies any Catholic doctrine and isn't just cherry picked out of context that quote from a pope who was probably a pedophile does noting for anyone
>>77427057
>>77426137
both the protestant and orthodox /Catholic doctrines leave room for people to fall
anyone can willfully sin without repentance right it off at confession or willfully sin and right it off with "always saved"
people will abuse both systems if their hearts are in the wrong place, in the end that's what it comes down to and as we know only God can see our hearts
Is this pope really a communist?
>>77425390
>How can you believe that the "Big Bang" happened for literally no reason
I don't.
Also, you have told me nothing of value.
I know ancient Egypt because people recorded history, and there are artifacts, and there are ruins.
Pretend to talk to imaginary friends and you will believe it's true?
Nah man. I was baptized as a child, still didn't believe in it. I was spoken to by many pastors, and other people of faith, still didn't believe it. Never believed it as a child when praying either.
It all just smells like bullshit. I would like to have faith, just to be a part of the club, and because atheists are full of angry faggots with random values and full of sin, but I cannot believe. I have witnessed no miracle, I have felt no love from God, and I do not believe benevolent God would condemn one of his children to damnation for not believing but still being good people.
That, and the gospel can be taken too seriously into extremes and be manipulated by evil people in the name of good. If the separation of Church and State never happened, the Church would still be an evil entity, committing atrocities with the power of the state and state funding.
I dunno man, seems like everything is crazy, I believe in what I can experience, and what I can reason, and I can't reason a God.
>>77427679
Perseverance of the saints and irresistible Grace
Look them up, there is more to OSAS than people think
>>77408138
Daily reminder, priests fuck children.
>>77427844
Not a Catholic:) just a redneck baptist
>>77408138
>>2016
>>Still worshiping a Jew
>>Still following Jew Religion
Fucking grow up
>>77427699
>the Church would still be an evil entity, committing atrocities with the power of the state and state funding.
Literally talking out of your ignorant American ass
>>77408138
>>77427831
>Calvanism in the Catholic Church
I don't know how you guys put up with this
>>77427699
Your not a child of God, you are a child of wrath.
God isn't all benevolent, just all Good, and Good must punish evil,
Romans 1 God has Revealed to you his existence, but you suppress this truth in your unrighteousness, but when you stand before God on judgement, you will be without excuse for your sins against a just and holy God
I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings:(
But God offered you away out
Jesus Christ was is and forever will be a dirty kike
>>77428410
>>77428288
I'm a Reformed Baptist and Calvinism is Biblical
Eph 1
John 6:37
>>77408138
>Thinking that we need priests to be intercessors to God when Christ died for that purpose.
>>77428410
Either put your trust in him, or stand guilty before a just and Holy God
>>77408138
If God is real? Why did he created Allah to kill your littler Christian cocksuckers during the crusade war?
>>77428371
Delusional garbage.
>>77428714
Allah is an idol from a false prophet
Without Christ, you will answer for your sins to a just and holy God
>>77428749
By what standard can you call me delusional? Can you even know anything?
Romans 1
Psalms 14
Thanks OP
God loves you!
>Hung on a cross so people didn't have to feel bad
>Not hanging from a tree for unlimited knowledge and plucking an eye to use it
That's cute.
https://youtu.be/_ACt2MrkeHE
>>77429379
Hung on a cross to pay for the sins of the Elect col 2:14
A lot of people will be feeling bad on Judgement day
>>77429576
I won't be feeling bad on Ragnarök, Odin would not want such a thing.
>>77427699
eh, from a certain point of view your position makes a degree of sense, but it's too committed to materialism, which itself has no foundation in reality. literally everything within the universe betrays design, and that there should be a designer naturally follows.
the strangest claim you make however is that Christ and his followers are somehow untrustworthy. you better be very sure that that is so, because you're in trouble.
also aristotle made a simple yet powerful argument for the immateriality of the mind and will:
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/01/aristotle_on_th093021.html
>>77408138
Catholics will all burn in Hell
>>77429697
Not according to what I have studied, there is a hell in pagan folklore, but of course your only larping and breaking the second commandment
Fuck organized religion, it's just a way for pseudo Jews to steal your shekels.
Deism is based.
>they still project the egoic dogma of Sky Daddy and the seditious Jew of Rome on the Cosmic Consciousness
>>77408138
The Gnostics were the first and only true belibers
Anglican Catholicism is pretty based. It's like a western Orthodoxy.
>>77429839
There is an equivalent to your hell, you are correct but you're not to show fear in the Ragnarök. It is the final battle, no reason to be afraid.
>>77429992
So you take the pagan tradition literally?
>>77408138
>Jesus
>White
What the fuck
>>77430072
As literal as one may take it. Sadly a lot of text and information has been lost in time and as such cannot be followed as fully as one may want.
>>77408138
Christianity is a Middle Eastern Jew Cult... it is not the true culture or religion of the European male.
>>77430175
So do you hold your Gods as the perfect moral standard?
>>77430307
(((You)))
>>77430307
If you don't wish to face the Judgement of a Just and Holy God
>>77430307
You need Christ
>>77430307
This. Judaism is the true redpill.
