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Why does /pol/ hate atheists?
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>>77225237
>atheists
everyone here is one. its just no longer edgy. so polfags role play orthodoxy
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>>77225237
Because they are degenerates and jews are promoting atheism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVC1gZInxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LhabQJ_-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NQOnjswuFI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.669381
http://www.shj.org/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/secular-humanistic-judaism-rejecting-god/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/must-a-jew-believe-in-god/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/atheist-jews-judaism-without-god_n_978418.html
http://thehumanist.com/magazine/september-october-2014/humanist-living/jewish-atheists-and-koufax-jews
https://secularpolicyinstitute.net/numbers-the-rise-of-jewish-atheists/
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Because they're obnoxious
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Most lefties are Atheist and they are responsible for degrading Christianity while protecting Islam
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Athiests can not be define as someone who chimps out at the slightest mention of religion.
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because of reasons.

chiefly that atheist are seldom content to ignore religion.

Instead they persecute christians/jews and give buddhism, hinduism, islam, satanism and all the other kook beliefs a pass....
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>Why does /pol/ hate atheists?
>Why does /pol/ hate SJWs?

See a difference? I don't.
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>>77225731
This honestly.

It's fine if you're an atheist. Beliefs are whatever. Yet the stereotypical atheist is so fucking obnoxious, they're like the fags in the streets wearing fishnets crying muhhh equality.

Shut the fuck up no one cares what u believe.
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>>77225237

I don't.

I hate evolutionary biologists who aren't theologians that speak on behalf of tens of millions of people across the planet to MAKE MONEY.
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>>77225604
*tips fedora
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Another shill thread
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Same reason they hate vegans, anyone who uses logic is a threat to them.
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>>77225237
Atheism is the catalyst for degeneracy
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Time to dump the red pills
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>>77229781
giusto un italiano poteva postare sta scemenza
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>>77225237
Dawkins has honestly redeemed himself in my eyes. Of course that's when liberals started to hate him.
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>>77225237
Outspoken atheists are jewish agents to keep Christians and whites from banning jews from owning assets and land in their societies.

Notice how top atheists are often jewish. Hitchens, Krauss, Harris. Dawkins is the only non jew, but he works at Oxford, whcih has been hijacked by the parasite since the early 1920's.
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>>77230028
I am sorry you are an atheist bro, hope you are enjoying your hopefully lubed bananas up your ass like your totally non degenerate cult figures
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>>77230261
This, they just keep peddling filth to the dumb goyim so they can merrily trash the civilizations that their fathers left them with loans, multiculturalism, relativism and all out degeneracy
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>>77229781
Czech Republic is one of the most atheistic countries in the world and they don't want any refugees either.
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>>77229834
True religious prophets have always been madmen eating mushrooms alone in the desert, only going out in public to rail against the bankers of their time.

Really makes you think...
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>>77230395
Pretty much. The only solution to jews is outright sterilization or murder.
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>>77225237
We just hate retarded fedora autists. Dawkins is actually a bro for not pulling punches with Islam and can eloquently state his case, as opposed to whining about having to attend church when he was a child.
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>>77229781
Absolute majority of people who call themselves christian here dont do anything christian except for calling themselves christian. Its really not atheists vs christians, its ex-east block vs west block.
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>>77225237
You form a group to dismantle Christian values exclusively rather than just quietly living by your own.
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>>77230607
Christianity, like alot of things here, is purely a reaction against what's seen as an attack on the normal way of life by opposing radicals. Fighting fire with fire, if you will.
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>>77230607
Hello Seghei, how's your jewish oligarchy treating your 11% muslim country ruled by your rightful chechen overlords?
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Because atheist propaganda is something that jews want the most- it causes the destruction of all white man values and rise of a cucks like amazing atheist or sargon that think they are so much more clever than normal human being.
Just compare western secular societys with eastern traditional ones

Or like just watch my vid rel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
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Because it is the sister idology of Logical Positivism, which, in turn, is a larval form of Solipsism, basically.

And the world 's state today is the direct result of mass spreading of Solipsism among plebes
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>>77230398
Just go to Prague or Brno and report back
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>>77230607
People have always been like that to some degree.
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I am an atheist and a stoic.
I don't believe in God. However I believe logic and progress towards a better future should be the drive behind everyone's action's.
Be it legalizing substances, allowing gay marriage, killing off a race of people that are inherently less intelligent etc.
I don't see a spectrum of good and evil, I don't believe in divine punishment.
I think humanity is it's own God and should do away with the problems slowing it's progress down aka. jews/niggers.
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>>77225237
because they say they are annoyed at religions for how much prosthelytizing and moral soapboxing they do, but do more of that shit themselves than 90% of other religions (cept islam)

they are far more self righteous cunts than most religious people (cept mudslimes)

they rarely speak out against mudslimes but whine non stop about christianity because its safe to do so, so its not about religion or intellectualism, but about narcissism
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>>77225237
Atheism is the destroyer of civilization. Atheism propagates degeneracy. All the fags, trannies, and sexual deviancy and drug abuse are pushed for by the atheists. Atheists also force religions to "accept" them and legalize gay marriage and bake fag cakes for them. Atheists must be purged along with the muslims.
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>>77225237
Tool of the kikes to make degenerate societies.
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>>77231427
Yes good goy, divide white people even further.
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Because /pol/ is a brainwashed hivemind and atheists are not brainwashed by definition.
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>>77231513
>good goy
Hey tell me, out of the four latest recipients of the "Richard Dawkins Award" given by the "Atheist Alliance International" whose directors are Stuart Bechman, Elida Radig, et al. who deserved it the most? Steven Pinker (2013), Rebecca Goldstein (2014), Jerry Coyne (2015) or Lawrence Krauss (2016)?
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>>77231427
If only you knew that Christians are usually the most liberal out of all religions and push for the acceptance of fags.
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>>77225237
Most atheists are lefties
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>>77225237
Because God is the only logical answer. the only possibility at the end of the rabbit hole.
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>>77231725
>Christians
>promoting LGBT trash
'no'
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>>77231631
>atheists are not brainwashed

literally fedora cult
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>>77230879
Atheism is as much an ideology as disbelief in santa claus is an ideology, in other words it is not an ideology. It is a position on one and only one question: 'Are there gods?' - No. That's all. An atheist can hold any political and philosophical beliefs.
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>>77230932
Oooh, what a surprise, big cities are full of foreign scum. Doesn't change anything about the typical Czech mentality, by western standards, we oppress the shit of our Mudslimes and we hate them because they're our anti-thesis.
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>>77231513
>implying that the atheists are not the ones dividing society
Morals are the best thing that unites people, and christian morals are foundation of the european culture.
But I'm not suprised that this sort of posts come from a Belgian poster, propably a Waal or een man uit Brussel
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>>77225237
i think it doesn't fucking matter what you believe as long as you have good morals, and religion helps enforce this, but we should not go around telling others how to live their lives
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>>77231847
Clearly you've never talked with one of those crazy fucks from the U.S (mostly women).
They're only Christians in name though.
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>>77231982
>An atheist can hold any political and philosophical beliefs.

Actually just one. The one peddled by Marx the jew
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>>77231725
>protestants
>christians
pick one, they are (mostly) degenerates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZzXqkh491Q
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>>77231982
You know language evolves, Vitaly. Say "atheist" around most people and more will pop in their heads than just "someone who doesn't believe in a deity".
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>>77230607
Pretty much this. It doesn't matter whether you're a Christian or an atheist, it's about the level of comfort you have. Ex-soviet block isn't well-off financially, so 'muh feels' tactics don't work on us when other people try to guilt trip us into helping parasites. We have to think of ourselves first.
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>>77225604
Because of posters like this
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>>77231987
>Oooh, what a surprise, big cities are full of foreign scum
just a little more in the north we don't have this problem pepik.
Not to mention your decriminalization of drugs including heroine gave your local gypsy gangs a whole new market for drug tourists
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>>77231722
>Implying I care about Murican memetheism

>>77231996
>Morals are the best thing that unites people, and christian morals are foundation of the european culture.
When did I refute this? I just want Muslims to get the fuck out.

>propably a Waal or een man uit Brussel
No, I work.
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>>77225604
Pretty much this.
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>>77231725
>>77231725
you do realize that most of the "Christians" of today are heavily influenced by the outside influences such as atheists love of fag sucking each others cocks? The Christians who still have spines would never condone such degeneracy.
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>>77232089
You're one to talk Samir.
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>>77232224
In here its no big deal, maybe in America its different
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>>77231996
While I'm an atheist myself, I do agree that Christian morals are useful for bonding (and that they're worthy of following, obviously.) It's just that I can't bring myself to believe all of it, it all seems too fantastical to me. Plus, I believe we can be unified by other things as well, like our history, our language, culture that has nothing to do with religion and - of course - a common enemy.
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Because they are know-it-all fedora-tipping faggots with no sense of anything beyond the material.
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>>77225237
Richard Dawkins is an embarrassing puddle of piss who hasn't written anything relevant in years.

He's essentially still on his book tour for the god delusion.
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>>77232530
this is a kind of thinking that makes 90% of your country's participate in black gangang porn
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>>77232408
>When did I refute this? I just want Muslims to get the fuck out.
but they won't go out because you reject your christian morals and made society weak. The only principle now is to be a good goy... I mean guy- that means accepting everyone no matter how degenerated they are. And when a society becomes weak that the stronger one takes over- in your case muslims.
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>>77232374
You kind of do, I've been to Poland. I practically live on the borders and the level of infestation is about the same. (Most shitskins in our cities are tourists anyway, so I don't count them.)
Also wtf, we didn't decriminalize heroin, where are you getting your info from?
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>>77232772
Country's women*
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They're annoying. They act like obnoxious little cunts and think they're so much smarter than everyone else. If you question their shit beliefs they just insult you or laugh and never give good answers back. And i'm not even religious but this will trigger atheists so hard. They legitimately believe you have to be religious or atheist and there is no in between. They are stupid.
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>>77232772
Nice argument you've got there. Does an independent thought really trigger you that much?
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>>77232484
Slovenian posters are always foaming at their mouth whenever they see an italian flag.
I don't know if it's because they are insecure about their turko albanian ancestors, or it's because Mario and Guido use systematically their women as cumrags for summer before departing back home
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>>77232474
Very few of you have spines, you should try growing them back before mudslimes get out of control.

>>77232541
>know-it-all
Ironic.
The ones claiming to know everything in detail are theists and forcing their side of the story down everyone's throat.
>sense of anything beyond the material
>>>/x/
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/pol/ack like to jack off to being superior for biological reasons
atheists like to jack off to being superior for having the right opinions
conflict is inevitable
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>>77232530
And I don't have a problem with you being atheist- but a muslim would have.
Christian society doesn't discriminate atheists so I don't understand why so many of them are so against it. Or wait I understand (((())))
>I believe we can be unified by other things as well, like our history, our language, culture that has nothing to do with religion and - of course - a common enemy.
I would disagree that our history, language, culture has nothing to do with religion. In fact christian religion had a huuge impact on those in Europe (especially the culture). But I understand what are you saying- not only religion can bond us. But look at secular societys in the West- they rejected the christianity and mocked them and how did it end for them?
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>>77232951
>independent thought
Your rejection of God is because you want to be able to live a lifestyle of sexual deviance where you convince yourself that there will be no consequences in sucking other men's cocks and also other forms of hypersexuality. Your atheism does not stem from independent thought, it comes from your thirst of carnal desires.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u-h2CBAMRk
prepare your butthole athefags
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prepare your butthole atefags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u-h2CBAMRk
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They are often annoying, loud, pseudo-intellectual fuckwits. Especially when they bash christianity, but dont dare to say a single bad word against islam. I am kinda ashamed to call myself an atheist because of these.
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>>77233045

Yeah which is why fundamentalist-theist and atheist are the same fucking thing. Telling you exactly what happens outside the material. Often, they worship the state instead of a deity. Swine.
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>>77232960
>albanian ancestors
>Implying Mussolini didn't occupy the land of Italian ancestors in april 1939.
>Implying Slovenians don't go to Gorica to fuck Italian women.
>Implying Trst isn't a city filled with Serbs.
Wew lad
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Atheists have the luxury of being allowed to claim any religion to benefit themselves and their lives in any given situation. Checkmate.

Honestly I'm with /pol/ on 95% of issues. Yet, I can't hate myself for not believing in fairy tales. I do my best to stop degeneracy without infringing upon the rights of others and try to do my best to help those less fortunate. It's a lot more than I can say about all the religious people I've met over the years that don't believe anything they say and assume they can just ask for forgiveness after being a terrible human being.
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>>77225604
I dont get what edgy is in atheism. Religious people are freaks nowdays.
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>>77232867
>God doesn't exist,
>God or Gods do exist.
> No fucking idea.

There are only three answers and the third is the only correct one currently. Don't be so ridiculous. There isn't really anything besides that. I agree but a lot of the pompous cunts are just young teenagers trying to seem more intelligent than they actually are. No surprise.
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>>77225237

Most of them are incredibly annoying. They're like vegans in that they literally can't wait to tell you how they're an atheist and wrong you are for not being one. It's made even worse by the fact that most of them tunnel vision Christianity whenever a single Christian does anything remotely wrong but are amongst the first to come out with shit like #notallmuslims.

There are exceptions and all honesty I actually quite like Dawkin's. Those who are critical of all religions when it does something bad but also respect another's right to personal belief are generally okay in my book.
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>>77232853
I don't know I lived in Cracow, Warsaw and Lublin and the very small number of shitskins and niggers were students who go the fuck out when they end their universitety's
>Also wtf, we didn't decriminalize heroin, where are you getting your info from?
https://hempempire.net/hempblog/2015/01/12/prawo-narkotykowe-obowiazujace-w-czechach/
http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/w-czechach-zaostrzono-przepisy-ws-narkotykow/7ls8n
I don't have a czech link but I think you gonna manage to understand this basically that is saying that you can legally have
>10 grams of weed
>1,5 grams of amphetamine
>4 extasy's
>1 gram of coke
>1,5 gram of heroin
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>>77233224
I know. That's why I hate Muslims and not you. I don't mind Christians, I consider them my brothers and I've never implied otherwise. I believe most of my countrymen are like that.
And I'm very well aware of the influence and impact, but I'm just saying I don't think it's necessary. Historically, we've always been a nation of heretics because we considered the church our enemy and it worked out nicely for us. Czech atheism is mainly rejection of higher authority and eternal pessimism, not faggy fedora-tipping.
>>77233246
Are we projecting here a little? It's not normal to jump to such detailed conclusion while knowing exactly nothing about your opponent in a debate.
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>>77233788
The other two are

>a god or being exists but idk what happens after death

Or

>no god exists but idk what happens after death

You fuckers are so stupid.
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>>77225604
About that:
I'm pretty much this, although I don't claim to be religious. I just think that Christianity is essential to the identity of white people and Europe. You know, traditionalism.
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>>77232960
praise italy
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>>77233974
Responding with that and claiming I'm stupid. Yeahh.. Nobody knows what happens after death. God does or doesn't exist. Knowing what happens after death doesn't come into question with the argument. 2/10 b8 faggot.
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>>77233854
You are an atheist. Outside of the autismos who can't imagine anything abstract, most atheists deny God with emotional reasons. Then they try to rationalize, quite pathetically and futilely, why God does not exists. the atheists willfully remains ignorant and refuse to understand God, and instead chooses to see God and Santa Claus/spaghetti monster as an equivalence. This is why atheists must be purged.
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>>77233848
Yes, that's pretty much our cause as well, plus we have a lot of tourists. Very few shitskins live in our big cities, but you see them a lot because, well, tourists. They're everywhere.
Ah okay, I googled it and it appears you really can have a small amount of these drugs. I didn't know because I don't care about them at all.
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>>77225237
/pol/ is a mostly atheist/agnostic board now aside of fantasy DEUS VULT posters.
The thing is we are not hostile to christanity on the contrary of the libturds places.

Everybody want here to nuke muslims though.
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>>77225604
so so right
kremlin bots are paid to push for orthodoxy on 4chan
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Because it's great to annoy wannabe-Christians here who act like their book of lies is relevant anymore
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>>77225237
Because they are part of satanic agenda. Everything satanic is degenerate, so /pol/ hates it.
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>>77229781
Atheists protect Muslims yet hate Christians. It's the ultimate blue-pill paradox.
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>>77225237
Why is /pol/ one person?
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>>77234217
Protip, ask cucktheists what consciousness is and why and how does one arise from a chunk of grey organic matter
Then watch them how they deny that consciousness exists
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>>77225321
Because Richard Dawkins and co. were the one responsible that helped the SJW get in power.

Now they regret but still they made a big damage.
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>>77225604
>the left has gone so insane with their bashing of traditional christians that even atheists on 4chan who read dawkins' and hitchens' books now find themselves running to defense of traditional christian theology/ideology
WAKE ME UP INSIDE (CAN'T WAKE UP)
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>>77233854
And have no problem with that way of thinking but 90% of atheist in the west or even here are the same or almost the same as sjw's
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>>77225237
bc they are closet fags, jewish friends and overall kike enablers.

By promoting anti-Christian '"Views'" they promote a materialistic, nihilistic, talmudo-Satanic World of Shit (The Promised Land) AKA Hell.
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>>77233749
its mostly to get replies from bait, atheists usually bite
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>>77234479
Obligatory
>>77234480
It's not a paradox, they are useful idiots and fifth columns needed to destoy our civilization.
I'm not even christian (deist here) but the idea of a higher power is necessary to keep degeneracy in check and far more logical than materialism

Every man is born with the idea of a higher power, even the spearchuckers from Nigeria. Atheism is denying a basic human need, another form of degeneracy.
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>>77225237
They won't have the motivation necessary to help out on the 10th Crusade
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>>77234480
As an Atheist I have seen the light and how western societies must be shaped by Christian principles to keep them stable societies.
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>>77234828
>being this mad
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>>77234217
It is really low of you to assume the worst of someone just because they don't share your views, kinda Mudslime-ish. Lots of assumptions you make. I've tried to understand, I've studied many religions, not just Christianity, and while I appreciated the philosophy behind many of them, I just couldn't believe it. Not really. I think I would even enjoy being a believer because you have the kind of certainty I will never know, but I'm not gonna pretend, that would be intellectually dishonest.
Frankly, I don't get why you choose to be this bitter. I have never made fun of your beliefs or anything and yet all I get is this level of saltiness.
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>>77225237
Newfags fell for the meme that this is a Christian board.
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>>77225731
this
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>>77235070
Do you as an atheist feel sorry why you brought the cucks and sjws to power?
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>>77235132
Here, revert to theism once more
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
Feel free to read Bhaghavad Gita shortly thereafter, then Sepher Zohar and then the Gnostic Gospels.
Congratulations, you know how the universe works, what happens when you die, you can stop being a cuck
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>>77234816
>in the West
Maybe, I have no experience with them aside from online spaces and people on the internet tend to voice more extremist opinions, so I'm not sure whether I can take them seriously.
>here
Doubtful, I don't know anyone who's even close to sjw-ism and pretty much everyone I know is either an atheist or doesn't care about religion at all.
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>>77225237
All reasonable men should disregard atheists. Aetheism is unreasonable on the count of an extremely unreasonable wager that a God does not exist. Unreasonable in that the stakes are enormously penalizing should one be incorrect. Any reasonable man who rejects religion would find himself an agnostic by virtue of not wanting to take a most unreasonable stake against a God, denying an unknown variable is illogical as it is assinine. It is much easier, pragmatic, even scientific, to say perhaps a God does exist, as opposed to vehemently denying such existence.
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>>77235269
Yes, I used to be for that PC crap, but then I realized it just makes a society weaker.
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>>77234828
Need to believe Jesus died for your sins and all will be forgiven if you waste time begging and now you're a complete degenerate enabler. Okay..

>I hate Muslims
>I hate annoying Christians not Christian values
>I hate degenerancy
>I want to treat mental illness not enable their disease
>I hate Feminism
>Want nuclear families
>Murder is wrong and so is abortion but they kill blacks and it's needed
>Treat others how you want to be treated

Yep. I'm such a kike enabling anti-Christian.

Believe what you want I don't talk about this outside of these stupid fucking threads. Yet, if any of you believed in the shit you talk about in regards to Christianity then I expect to see you dancing in joy when God sends a lightning bolt for that sweet little baby of yours. We both know that won't happen cause you really don't believe in the garbage that's spewed. Nobody knows so get over it.

captcha pancakes.. comfy
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>>77225237
I don't hate them personally But I can see why Conservatives hate them, Because they are a cesspool of Leftism, Cultural Marxism That aids the left and destroys the cultural preservation that the right entails.
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>>77235132
Atheism is a dishonest position. The very idea of morality, justice, and meaning is not possible without a higher being. Yet atheists claim that a higher being absolutely does not exist and at the same time push for their own ill conceived morality, justice, and meaning. In the midst of such hypocrisy, they enable the destruction of society. Considering all of this, shouldn't an agnosticism be a more reasonable position. Not to the atheist, because he fears the consequences and implications of the being a higher power who will one day bring justice for his sins on earth. Then the atheist will convince himself and those around him that meaning is relative and for people to choose, enabling the faggot that we see today. I am not bitter against you particularly, it's just that atheism is quite possibly the worst worldview that humanity can possibly subscribe too. It's a shame that the West sees it as the "logical" one.
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http://www.skepticalaboutskeptics.org/investigating-skeptics/whos-who-of-media-skeptics/richard-dawkins/

Dawkins habitually dismisses psychic phenomena as illusory, for example: “The paranormal is bunk. Those who try to sell it are fakes and charlatans” (Sunday Mirror, February 8, 1998). Nevertheless, Dawkins concedes that an interest in the subject could have a positive side: “The popularity of the paranormal, oddly enough, might even be grounds for encouragement. I think that the appetite for mystery, the enthusiasm for that which we don’t understand, are healthy and to be fostered. It’s the same appetite which drives the best of true science, and it’s an appetite which true science is best qualified to satisfy.” (1996 BBC Dimbleby Lecture.)

Dawkins’ bestselling book The God Delusion was published in 2006, and he has now become the world’s most prominent atheist. Together with the materialist philosopher Daniel Dennett, he is a leader of the “bright” movement, trying to rebrand atheists as brights. But this campaign has met with little success, perhaps because it seems arrogant to imply that people who are not atheists are dim.
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>matter created consciousness
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>>77225237
Because most of us are obnoxious cunts who don't know when to stop pushing.

Then again, if you're crying about someone saying mean things about your beliefs, maybe you shouldn't express them so vehemently.
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>>77235857
>Atheism is a dishonest position. The very idea of morality, justice, and meaning is not possible without a higher being.

So you can't have empathy or a sense of justice and ethics without believing in heaven and hell? I mean... wouldn't the concept of heaven and hell logically be predicated on an internal understanding of right and wrong to start with?
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>yes goyim, religion is a lie, trust me, your friend Shlomo
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>>77225237
hmm one post, hmmm
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>>77235384
I have read Bhagavadgíta, not Sepher Zohar or Gnostic Gospels. I'll give it a try, I enjoy this type of literature.
>>77235857
You see, and that's what I don't believe. I don't think there needs to be a higher being for you to be moral, yet I've seen many Christians claim this. Could you explain what you mean by that? Do you think we can not recognize evil on our own?
Also, most atheists are in the agnostic atheist camp, ie. our position can be summarized by: "Well, god may exist, but I don't think so," rather than by "I know for sure he doesn't exist."
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>Matter and energy cannot be created from nothing

>living things cannot come from nonliving things

Yes, atheism is totally valid
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>Atheists hate Christianity
>Jews hate Christianity
>Atheists are being good goyim
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This is why /pol/ hates atheists
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>>77235857
Agnostics have a freeloader mentality. They think that having no belief yet (apparently or they'd be theists at that point) allows them to enjoy the luxuries of an honest dedicated believer at the end.

Atheists expect nothing in return for the 0 amount of effort they put into their spirituality.

Tell me which is worse for society?
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>>77236285
>why doesn't the OP samefag and attentionwhore in every thread
You need to fuck off back to ribbit you huge fucking faggot.
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>>77236248
>So you can't have empathy or a sense of justice and ethics without believing in heaven and hell?
Justice and ethics in a godless world are ideas that arbitrarily categorize right and wrong, in the same way we would say pizza is better than french fries. Sure an atheist can have morals but he cannot explain or justify them. At best, the atheist can try to say muh evolutionary ethics or muh empathy. which is baseless.

>wouldn't the concept of heaven and hell logically be predicated on an internal understanding of right and wrong to start with?
> internal understanding of right and wrong
this is only possible with a higher being
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>>77236496
>christians worship a dead jew

>>77236532
>Doesn't understand the a part in atheism

Silly theist. Pic related is the bullshit you belive in.
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>>77225237
I am somewhere between Agnostic and Nihilist. Atheism deconstructs aspects of Christianity which are useful for Western civilization.
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>>77236138
>american education system1
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>>77225237
Because pic related
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>>77234206
Yeah it does retard. That's literally the biggest argumemt ever. Hindus think its reincarnation. Christians think it's Heaven. Muslims think its 72 virgins. Atheists think its literally nothing.
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>>77235476
I hope you are honest.
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>HAHAHAHAHA, these athirst goyim are so good!!!
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>>77236373
>I don't think there needs to be a higher being for you to be moral
I never said that. Anyone can be moral, but only those who believe in a higher power can justify their morals. Otherwise, morality is simply a preference, and objective goods and evils are nonexistent.
This goes in a bit more in depth.
>>77236577
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>>77235857
Good post.

Why does God have to exists for morality and justice?
>I don't want to die.
>Don't kill me, I won't kill you.

>I don't want to get raped.
>Don't rape me, I won't rape you.

>Don't want to get tortured.
>Don't torture me, I won't torture you.

Justice is eye for an eye in most cases even in Christian dominated countries. Don't need God to figure that one out.

>Murder people.
>Death Penalty.

God even throws a wrench (in some religions) to justice. Theft results in not imprisonment but the removal of your hand. Homosexuality is an abomination that results in Eternal Hell or thrown off of a building. Adultery gets you stoned to death.

Can't ignore a major religion. If anything God skews justice and morality.

Agnostic is master race guys. Nobody knows just do what you know is right without some ancient book and treat people with dignity. Family/Community #1 what else is there to life?
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>>77236735
>unable to form a counterargument
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You faggots are going to need us in the upcoming racewar. There are conservative, right wing atheists out there, you know.
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>>77235857
>The very idea of morality, justice, and meaning is not possible without a higher being.
This is 10/10 bait christbro
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>>77233749
>Religious people are freaks nowdays.
All you have to do is take the word of the Gospel and follow it. Try and be more like Christ. Some people do take it too far but I think a very good majority (mostly Lutherans) just try to be good people.
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>>77236884
>There are conservative, right wing atheists out there, you know.
They are just as degenerate as a faggot too
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>>77236552
The agnostic however, cannot in a honestly attempt to convince society to embrace degeneracy.
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>>77236691
This is true. Once Christianity is death, there will be no more for this guilt complex. Originally coming from religious people beleiving they comiteed a sinn. than the left uses to impose on white people.
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>>77236683
yup, thats what all people with faith believe in

how daft are you?
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>>77229781
Correlation != causation
and I would hardly even call that correlation
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>>77225237
The argument goes that religions cause stupid people to do stupid things because of their beliefs.

If you remove God, the stupid people still exist. There religion just becomes Marxism.
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I honestly don't give a fuck that a few people on /pol/ dislike me because I'm an atheist.

All I want to do is:

>remove kebab
>make america great again
>subvert the jews

What's so wrong with that?
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>>77225237
Because your insistence that there is no god leads to the conclusion that there is no absolute truth. That's not a world I want to live in.
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>>77236771
>God exists I don't know what happens when dead.
>God exists I still don't know what happens when dead but I think I do.
>God exists I don't know what happens when dead.
>God exists I still don't know what happens when dead but I think I do.

Yep. That makes a load of difference to what I was saying.
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>>77236815
That's not true. Morality isn't a preference, it is still the best way to maintain a healthy, high-trust society. And why is evolutionary ethics or empathy baseless? I can say that your justification is baseless to me since I don't believe in a god.
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if people stop believing in god the world would cease to exist

that is proof that god exists
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>>77236683
>Christians worship a dead jew
We worship the Holy Trinity
>Doesn't the a part in atheism
Doesn't make the picture false

>Silly atheist calling a theist silly
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>>77236816
The eye for an eye system cannot be grounded in objectivity without a higher being.

>If anything God skews justice and morality.

depends on the God, and also depends on whether the believer and skeptic are wilfully misinterpreting the religion
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>>77237115
Nothing
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>>77237145
You fucking godless Czechs, I am so embarrassed of my ancestral homeland.

MAKE MORAVIA CATHOLIC AGAIN
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>>77231135
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>>77237054

You're a logical nihilist. You are ready to gobble anything a jew with a piece of paper that entitles him of some "Scientific" PHD down your gullible throat. Nice try faggot
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>>77237024
>some people were praying

>>77237164
>nothing out of nothing
>mentions magic
Come on, try harder.
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>>77237133
Lol you still put "i don't know" when a majority of people do think they know. You're one of those "hur dur im so smurt" faggots.
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>>77237322
>muh heritage
Don't worry, you have nothing in common with us. You're just another mutt.
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>>77237156
No idea what you're trying to say
Miracles, however, prove the existence of God
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If atheism is true, then our minds are reducible to physics. Since physics is fundamentally deterministic, we have no free will. Ergo, I have no 'choice' whether to adopt atheism or not, and you're wasting your time by trying to convince me of anything.
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>>77237164
>pic
I just keep imagining some preacher in the bible belt saying that and people eating it up.
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>>77237145
> Morality isn't a preference
You cannot make that claim without without an objective frame of reference. Otherwise, the only position you can take is moral relativity or morals are nonexistent.

>it is still the best way to maintain a healthy, high-trust society
Well, let's ask all the past moral philosophers on what they think is a healthy and high trust society. Do we have a prevailing theory on morality for this society? Nope, over thousand different branches of moral ideology and very little agreement between them. Seems relative without God doesn't it?

>evolutionary ethics and empathy
Advocates slavery, racism, and what not. Also, evolution transitions to ethics are highly debated and very little grounds on the dynamics of morality and survival
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Atheism is the height of dindu spirituality

>i dindu
>you can't prove i did du
>can't prove it
>nope not proof
>prove i did du
>still doesn't prove it
>nope
>can't prove i din dindu
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Bible Man is amused
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>>77237453
No you're one of those "hur dur i'm such an imbecile faggot" faggots that think their subjective opinion changes objective truth.. They don't know either way it's why Christians cry and whine when Sandy Hook occurs. God is sending those little kids to Hell? No? Why not be happy? Oh wait, you don't fucking know. Nobody does. Still responding to shitposts. fml
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>>77237591
That would be true if there weren't an inherent randomness within physics.
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>>77225237
religions just don't make sense to me.
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>>77237724
morals are nonexistent
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>>77236971
Nothing is more degenerate than drinking the milk of the poppy that is religion
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People hate Fedoras for being condescending cunts, while just being the clssic pseudo-intelectual fool that believes he is super smart,
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>>77225846
Hell naw. I dislike Islam, the SJW movement and American Atheists for the same exact reason I hate Christianity. Retarded black and white mentality and false dichtonomies.
Only American "atheists" and "liberals" (american liberals = authoritarians) are fucking retarded enough to completely miss the point of whatever they're supposed to represent. If you're an atheist you represent NOTHING. So shut the fuck up about being an atheist. I don't go around describing myself as an AChessist.

Hell, whenever I see an "atheist" here I suspect it's a really retarded Christian trying to troll other Christians to hate atheists.

I literally couldn't give a slightest shit what people believe or don't.

This is exactly why I find these discourses retarded. You guys are busy hating each-other for the most irrelevant of bullshits, while certai people happily take advantage of that.
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>>77237823
>"responds to shitposts"
The only shitposts here are yours, atheistfag

Even if they are sent to Heaven, the death of a child is no joyous thing.

>Oh wait, you don't fucking know
Don't presume I don't know
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>>77237823
You're a fucking idiot. Lf course in reality absolutely zero people alive know what happens when you die but they still think they know. That's the point of having different religions you tremendous fucking pretentious bitch. Who cares if they all beleive in God what they care about is what it is like after they die.
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>>77238237
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>>77238029
Yes, ahmed raping sven is ok and there is nothing wrong with it
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>>77237446
>>77236683
>Pic related is the bullshit you belive in
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>>77238153
>Nothing is more degenerate than drinking the milk of the poppy that is religion
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>>77238418
>pic related
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why are people so butthurt with each other, like shit take a chill pill niggas
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>>77238429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5-Hf0MzkvM
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>>77238599
>take a chill pill niggas
Negros are not welcome in this board
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>>77238278
>>77233974
Literally being this retarded.
You're the one who tried to add new subcategories irrelevantly while being a cunt about it.. Have a nice day imbecile.

I'm sure you'll be dancing in a fluffy cloud hand in hand with Jesus in eternal bliss.

Wew. Good day.
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>>77238237
>Don't presume I don't know
But he can, you don't know it exists, you don't know there's an afterlife, you believe.
And I wouldn't want to take that away from you, and anybody who tries should be strung up, because whatever gets you through the day is what's important, not the specifics.
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>>77238404
ahmed is raping sven because his morals tells him sven is infidel and it's ok to rape infidels
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>>77238721
This video is just too good
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>>77238735
Just like in King Kong
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Should I go protestant or orthodox?
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>>77238556
you sure got me there buddy

nothing you say can change my faith, and nothing i say can change your degeneracy
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>>77238854
Because Sven is a Swedish cuckold and can't fight for himself
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>>77238854
yes, ahmed thinks his morality is objective, so he can rape sven everyday. Sven is an atheist and therefore thinks morals are relative or nonexistent, so he cannot judge ahmed for raping him. So he offers his daughter instead.
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>>77238837
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>>77238941
Orthodox
Unless you want to be a Protestant cuck
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>>77238957
>faith
>this retarded
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>>77238236
Yeah, there is a HUGE difference between American "atheists" and European ones.

Their SJWs and etc. are much worse too. All of this shit comes from the US.
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>>77239130
>doing nothing but posting meme pictures

wew, look at me changing my mind
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>>77239130
>Runs out of "logical" arguments
>Resorts to insults

>>>/lgbt
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>>77239130
Mate stop false flagging, it's honestly getting annoying at this point.
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>>77239295
>>77239257
>implying you had an argument
kek.
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>>77239257
ever consider that he's not trying to change your mind but just make fun of you?
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>>77239406
It builds their faith, it's good exercise.
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>>77235857
>What is existentialism?
>What is social frameworks?

Bait.
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>>77225237
Because they characterize religions (read: Christianity) as belief in a sky-wizard, and they still can't explain what caused the big bang. And when you call them on it, they respond with insults because they literally believe that they're superior intellectually because they're "le supreme logix"

tl;dr - they're immature, and can't reason well
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>>77239576
Everybody thinks everybody else is retarded, everybody can go home now, more at 11
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>>77239650
I don't think everybody else is retarded, but feel free to go home now :^)
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>>77239411
nowhere did i come with an argument against you, and neither have you. all you've done is post pictures. thank god that i was born so far away from you
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>>77239411
I've actually presented several arguments and facts throughout this thread
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>>77225237
Becuase apparently atheism leads to degeneracy. Most /pol/acks retards so there may be a correlation. The American south is some how the most religious and degenerate place in north america but i guess that doesn't mean anything to these people.
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>>77238854
therefore moralism is the cancer as it allows Ahmed to justify his actions by appealing to his objective morals, instead of consciously evaluating those actions and their implications
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>>77239224
>All of this shit comes from the US.
As usually. USA is like some huge social experiment where all the corruption, preversion and abominations are tried before they spread to the world.
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>>77239022
>>77239851
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>>77238763
Those aren't unnecessary categories, they are what people believe. You fucking atheists think you're so smart you can change what people actually believe. Jesus christ dude just hang up the fedora and kill yourself.
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>>77225237
Because Atheism turned into being everything anti conservative Christian, which is being therefore leftist degenerate. I am Agnostic leaning more toward Atheism myself.
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>atheism is bluepill
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>>77239736
You must think I'm retarded at least, retard ',:v)
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>>77239799
>arguments
Ad hominems don't count.

>>77239763
Thank god you nords won't exist in a few decades.
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>>77239224
>All of this shit comes from the US.
Exactly. I've never heard about atheists until I started visiting sites with American users. The amount of misinformation and retarded propaganda they spit out is just mind-boggling.

And yeah, even feminism and SJW movement seems completely fucked in the head by anyone that hears about it here. Wether they are christian or atheists.

Not to mention that a catholic priest came up with the whole Social Justice retardation. Just more proof that the SJW and American atheists couldn't really escape the religious mentality, despite lacking belief in deities.
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>>77239851
>not realizing the possiblity of showing that ahmed's morality is objectively false
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>>77239576
>tl;dr - they're immature, and can't reason well
>can't reason well
>can't reason
>reason

Kind of ironic that your entire post is a strawman fallacy.
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>>77240105
>Not to mention that a catholic priest came up with the whole Social Justice retardation
Except the idea of "social justice" isn't retarded. We can all admit that Jesus was the first SJW "take care of the poor and sick and hungry, or I'll say i never knew you" it's just that it's been twisted and perverted by jewry
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>>77240462
>entire post
>tl;dr
choose one
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>>77240055

See:
>>77237164
>>77236422
>>77237591

Quite odd how you are the one posting the ad hominem arguments

See:
>>77239130
>>77239411
>>77238556
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>>77240177
moralism implies mechanically following rules, you're no longer in touch with your real nature, and that allows you to justify actions you wouldn't do otherwise
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>>77240462
>Strawman fallacy
More like truth
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>>77240055
>Ad hominems don't count.
the only thing you've been doing

>Thank god you nords won't exist in a few decades.
pretty sure we'll outlast you subhumans
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>>77240702
>in touch with your real nature
quite the opposite, morality helps humans overcome their base nature. Otherwise I would rape sven also
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>>77225237
Because they just can't stand William Lane Craig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET-0Vcp1vXs
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>>77239886
Yeah, it's hard to believe that the US is a superpower with a population this ignorant of the world.

>>77240105
Yeah - and Americanism spread like wildfire. All the fucked up Neo-Feminist/SJW-movements are inspired by American movements.

The pro-refugee shit comes from GB/Germany/France though.
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>>77240809
>subhumans
kek, nice one achmed, prep the bull now.

>>77240645
> I have no 'choice' whether to adopt atheism or not
>picture
>living things cannot come from nonliving things
>what are bacterias
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>>77240702
actually, morality is the only mechanism we have by which we can *denounce* certain actions
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>>77234043
>Christianity
>traditional
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Pope Francis is traditional as fuck, the media just jewifies whatever he says to make it sound like he's so liberal. He literally has stated trannies and gays can't go to heaven.
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>>77240563
Yes, I took your entire post into consideration. It's a strawman fallacy right from the start.

The tl:dr part was just pure irony.

>>77240757
>More like truth
Only if you're completely retarded. Are you completely retarded?
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>>77241220
Hear here
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>>77241319
>right from the start
>the start
>Because they characterize religions (read: Christianity) as belief in a sky-wizard, and they still can't explain what caused the big bang
I was responding to OP who posted a picture of Dick Dawkins who is notorious for (see above)
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>>77230224
this. He's an asshole but he can recognize that Islam is a cancer, moreso than any other religion and is honestly just as much of a conservative as anyone here politically, just very scientifically minded and opinionated
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>>77240941
You know what's really sad.
How everyone's afraid and angry at Mulisms and immigrants, while the Americans destabilised the whole region and caused all of this.

It's literally their fault that Muslims are fucked in the head. And the only ones suffering are innocent people.
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>>77241063
keep calling me a cuck subhuman, wont change your genetics
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>>77241663
>genetics
Kek, the subhuman speak.
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>>77231427
>Atheists must be purged along with the Muslims
All what you said applied to Atheists, AND Christians. You guys on the same basket.

The only degeneracy-free religions today are Orthodox Judaism (not Israel Jews ofc, biggest fag parade in the world happen there...), and Islam.

Christians gave up on their Christianity's value with a small campaign again them and now they are waging it against other. While Muslims don't while there's a huge campaign against them.

Take the father's shouter as an example that news paper after news paper is asking him about his opinion in fags, then writing a click-bait out of context... and still, he still hold his opinion. Being fag is a sin and always will be.
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>>77241618
>conservative
>supports the MURDER OF BABIES
yeah, no.
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>>77241650
>America did this
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>>77225237

Because Atheists really get the most mad when you make fun of their religion.
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>>77229217
> aren't theologians
Holy kek. That's the same level of stupidity as a Muslim dismissing your criticism of Islam because you didn't go to Allah school and study the Koran.
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>>77241786
Nice fake quote.
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>>77241786
german =/= danish

amazing reading comprehension
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>>77225237
Because most of them are arrogant cunts.
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