While the Bernie-to-Trump meme is mostly a lie, a lot of Bernie Brats DO harbor very nasty feelings toward Clinton. Some of these people will just stay home on election day, but a lot more of them will cave to Clinton, as unhappy as they are about it.
However, if they can be convinced that the Green Party is more in line with their political views, and is a viable option, than that would split the leftist vote, and Trump might actually have a shot at winning the general election. Green party nominee Jill Stein has said that she is willing to use her influence to get the Green Party to change their rules and let Sanders become the nominee if he wanted to. She has said that she has reached out to Bernie about this, though hasn't gotten a response from him as of yet.
So, what we should do is start one of dem Twitter hashtag campaigns "#BernieForGreen", and show Bernie that he has a lot of support in this area. Now, as Jill Stein has said, she isn't holding her breath about Bernie actually taking her up on the offer, especially after that meeting with Obama. But honestly, Bernie is such a spoiled, entitled idiot that I don't entirely discount the possibility, if it's clear there is (seemingly) enough interest in such a ticket.
But more importantly, as Jill Stein has also said, whether they can get Bernie or not, is whether they can get most of his voters. To do this, they have to show them that the Green party is the logical second-choice for Bernie supporters, and convince them that, with more independent voters than ever and 2 very unpopular candidates, that a Green Bernie ticket might actually have a shot at winning.
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>>76757334
(Cont.)
If we do it now and frame it with the Bernie-possibility, than Berntards will actually look into it and get pumped about a Green ticket. But is has to be now, so even when Bernie officially rejects the offer and becomes a Clintoris, they'll be too far down the Green rabbit hole to be swayed to vote Clinton.
Yes, this would be more effective if Bernie could actually be convinced to run on the Green ticket, so I hope against hope that this happens, but it could still be effective enough without him if we act now.
What are your thoughts on this, /pol/?
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/6/9/jill_stein_to_bernie_sanders_run
>>76757334
>To do this, they have to show them that the Green Party is the logical second-choice for Bernie supporters
>trying to use logic to sway a bunch of bratty, emotional millennials toward anything
I mean, from an ideological perspective, the Green Party IS the next-best choice for Bernie Bros, but let's be honest. A lot of them are just bandwagoning hipsters who support Bernie just to be cool, or for fuzzy feels. As stupid as some of his supporters are for supporting his ideology, at least those ones know WHAT they're supporting. But a large fraction of them don't even know why they're Berniefags, just that they are.
We need rub it in really bad on Berniebros on how Clinton stole the nomination. It's the truth
>mfw this plan is so effective that it actually backfires and we end up with a Bernie president
>>76758494
>A third party actually gets elected
I would simply be impressed.
>>76758300
>Clinton millions ahead in the popular vote
>stole
Why do people still unironically make this claim?
We should also split the republican ticket, let's get Romney back in the fray. 4 candidates would be based.
>>76758177
Well then that plays more into our favor. If we can stage it that a lot of BernieBros support a Green ticket, than actual Bernie Bros will jump on the bandwagon, and won't be talked out of it by the "a vote for Bernie is a vote for Drumpf" boogeyman. And then when such a ticket is kind of viable cause of the support from the bandwagoning portion, maybe the more "logical" Bernie Bros won't be scared by these attacks. Such rhetoric at them will only make the bandwagoning portion feel cooler and dig their heels in more if they're already committed, assuming your take on his fan base is correct.
>>76757334
This will never work. Bernie's not that dumb. Trump will lose to Clinton get over it.
>>76758769
>Every network shows superdelegates as actual delegates.
>Companies donated millions to her
>Every network acted like she clinched the nomination despite not getting enough pledged delegates
She won fair and square alright
>>76758769
I mean we can still make such a claim anyway. A lot of Berniefags already believe it. Let's make them feel more empowered to play this card indiscriminately.
>>76758494
kek
>>76758678
it would be cool, although if it had to be third party I would prefer Austin Petersen
>>76758991
>Romney for a fourth candidate
>Not Austin Petersen
>>76759322
Bernie may not be that dumb, but his fan base might be. Which is why if we get this rolling before he officially supports Hillary, it may have a shot of being effective. If we get Berntards committed to a Green Party vote, they may continue to support it even after Bernie supports Hillary, so long as they're committed to the idea BEFORE he does so.
>>76759962
>voting third party instead of bending over for the two party establishment makes you dumb
I mean I fucking hate Bernie and Jill Stein, but the whole "wasting your vote" may-may needs to die.
Honestly, as hilarious as Trump is, and as annoyed as I am for the unfair way he gets portrayed in the media (even if that is part of his plan, it doesn't make them right for doing it), I'm voting for Austin Petersen, because he's more qualified to be president. If that means Hillary wins, so be it. I want more parties in the system. If there had already been a viable Libertarian party when Ron Paul was running, he would've gotten the nomination and may have become president.
>>76757334
When attaching Hillary, always use a Green or Socialist burner account. Puts clenched fists, and commie bullshit on your profile, but Green imagery is better.
>>76760597
Remember, Washington warned against political factions--a no party state. A unopposed one party state the same as a no party state. One party state systems are superior.
>>76760597
>Austin Petersen
>qualified to run anything
Don't do this to my sides!
>>76760597
>lolbertarian
rofl
leave
>>76757334
>get the Green Party to change their rules and let Sanders become the nominee if he wanted to.
Bernie is insane, but I don;t think he is stupid.
He'd do WAY better to just launch an independent bid.
2 jews, 1 ticket
Glorious
I'd love to help but I am planning to go off the grid in 1 week and am in the process of scrubbing all my 100+ online accounts, including all the troll ones, and erasing any activity I can. Sorry, OP.
>>76761646
Hit Pst too soon, meant to add that the Greens have essentially NO organization in place, no money, and generally poll worse than the Libertarians, other than one year with Nader when they cracked 2%, a feat which the Libertarians have yet to accomplish.
Liberals who are mad at Hilldawg can just vote for the gun-grabbing open borders nut job with the (L) after his name.
>>76761646
Isn't it too late to get on any ballots? I mean, he could probably get the signatures, but he has no money left. You can say "I'm running as an independent", but if you don't have any ballot access, it's not a "real" campaign. The Greens have the ballot already. That is where all of the attention needs to go.
>>76761976
Theoretically, Jill Stein has some plays she could make as a further left woman than Hillary. They need to start a social media campaign begging for money from the disaffected Bernie supporters, NOW. Nader had more credibility and name recognition than Stein does now, but Stein has the internet. They need to get their shit in gear, and we need to help them.
>>76757334
Bernie would be down.
He traded in his ideals to join the Dems in order to run.
Why wouldn't he do it with the green party?
Fuckin flip floppin kike
>>76762009
Stein wants him as a running mate in her bid I'm assuming... so He'll be on the ticket with her as the candidate...
>>76760597
I would vote for Petersen if I wasn't voting for Trump, but I don't think he's all that qualified to be running the country. Just more qualified than Gary, which doesn't say much.
>>76760741
true
>>76760899
this is good to see, but if we don't act now most of them will cave
>>76761363
he's more qualified than that cuck Gary Johnson. if I HAD to vote third party it would be for him.
>>76761646
Why is that insane? Most of the Greenfags would be ok with it if Jill Stein supported it
>>76761735
kek
>>76761861
kek
>>76762581
>at cuck Gary Johnson. if I HAD to vote third party it would be for him.
I will give Peterson a few points. He is pretty smart, outspoken and doesn't back down easily.
>>76761976
shit well i didn't see this until after I posted>>76762581
>>76758769
The Democrats engaged in unscrupulous tactics to disenfranchise independent and no-party voters, to such a degree that if a Republican had even hinted at half as much the media Jew would have been running stories about it for weeks.
Then there are rumors that criminal organizations were threatening to kill Bernie voters in Puerto Rico, and organizing open ballots to vote for El Shilldog.
Then there is lying about the superdelegates being fluid based on votes, and not locked in from the start. Or the AP calling it before a major vote.
The Dems are up to Michelle Obama's dick in dirty tricks.
>>76761976
Green Party has a shit track record but I honestly think Bernie merged with their forces would be better than Bernie independently. Especially if he merged with Stein, they could play the woman card against Hillary.
>>76761976
Green Party has a shit track record but I honestly think Bernie merged with their forces would be better than Bernie independently. Especially if he merged with Stein, they could play the woman card against Hillary.
>>76757334
>To do this, they have to show them that the Green party is the logical second-choice for Bernie supporters
>logical
>logical
Just appeal to emotion you faggots. These fags operate on feels alone.
>>76764407
Indeed, the term leftists like is "common sense" alternative--quotations included. Never appeal to reason, only "common sense".
This is a good idea but /pol/'s calls to action usually fail (see bronogamy)
Also, you need more meme, OP. Your post is too long for the average /pol/ack attention span.
I have a humor page on Kikebook with 13,000 likes. I use to to post some subtle red pilling in the mix of retarded normies memes.
I guess I could do this.
>>76761861
Pepe should be clicked
>>76766448
do it, fampai.
also link us to the page
If it succeeds then Green party effectively becomes the Communist Party of America.
The Left will be splintered for decades.
>>76768828
Let's make it happen fampai #BernieForGreen
>>76757334
Is the green party even on the ballot for all 50 states?
>>76757334
I live in Michigan, and just the other day I saw a car with a Sanders' sticker on it. It was faded, like it had been on there for a while. Then right next to it, was a brand new Trump sticker. It made me smile.
Rader as Green stole a lot of votes from Gore in 2000
I think Sanders would steal a fuck load more from Clinton if he ran with Stein
Heres hoping
Or Trump picks Sanders as his VP if Sanders is salty enough about how the DNC treated him
>>76757334
>BernieBitches vote Jill Stein
>BernieBros vote for Trump
:)
I'm split between jill and gary johnson.
Bernie fag reporting in despite his distinct lack of meme magic. Feeling pretty cucked by shillary. I voted jill in 2012 but only because i knew PA isn't a swing state.
I had a berniebro message me today about how Gary Johnson isnt that bad and that he might support johnson come november
with that said, the greens are actually mentally retarded, straight up, especially Jill. I dont want to see their party gain traction and thusly have their stupid platform get attention among an already gullible and stupid population.
everyone should probably go read the sandersforpresident subreddit. they seem very unhappy with hillary. didnt see anyone say they were willing to vote for her.
if you thought the system was rigged against your guy why the hell would you help the rigged system by voting hillary?
also, it seems like they want to send a message to the dnc. like they want a trump presidency to punish them. they also seem to think a trump presidency would accomplish their goals more quickly than a hillary presidency. they think trump will be so extreme that after his first term the pendulum will swing to the far left.
i predict many of the bernie people will stay home or vote for trump. if not then their 'revolution' was a complete waste of time.
>>76757334
They know green wont win or they wouldve gone that way to begin with are you a fucking FAS or something whats your fucking problem anyway, you stupid piece of shit? Go fucking die in a fire, please
It don't matter. None of this matters. Bernie bros don't actually vote.
>>76772318
this too. i was laughing my ass off wednesday looking at my fb feed and seeing all the bernie people in cali kicking themselves for not voting. some of the bernie people on reddit seem fairly intelligent and like they're paying attention but i think there's a big group of bernie bros that are just literal retard burnouts.
#JillnotHill
#netflixandJill
#imwithher
OP, you fucking idiot, next time you try this, start a Greens For Bernie facebook page for this cause, and link to the twitter hashtag page on it. /pol/acks are notoriously lazy, and aren't gonna do all your work for you. Have this shit ready next time.
>>76758769
It's already been said, but basically the MSM added 400 or super-delegates to Hillarys count from day one. She had a head start and if that didn't happen, more people would have thought their vote actually mattered early on. Most of her (real delegate) lead came from those early states where she was virtually unopposed.
They are right to be sore, but the DNC is the problem, they enacted super-delegates to prevent an upstart from hijacking the party, not unlike what happened to the GOP.
>>76775291
And I don't even support your cause. I want Austin Petersen to win, even though he's not even the libertarian nominee. But just get a gucking clue, eh?
>>76773969
>netflixandJill
Fucking kek. Lost it
The law of parsimony and game theory both suggest that Bernie is holding out to trigger a pre-emptive move by the Republicans, namely to lull them into a false sense of security so they feel they can field a candidate at the RNC to contest Trump.
If that happens, Bernie suddenly concedes, throws all his supporters at Hillary and the Dems win by a landslide.
It's brilliant theory, but the establishment GOP looks like it is accepting defeat and acquiescing to Trump's popular and electoral victories. The new strategy for Clinton would be to announce Bernie as her running mate and Warren as Sect of Commerce.
We spend half the day calculating this shit.
>>76776421
If Bernie become vp it is game over and he purposefully not ruled out either that or a green party run. I have a feeling you are right, someone is playing a bigger game and being very tight-lipped about it.
