Is he actually a cult leader like some have claimed? What's the truth behind that?
>>76316998
He has no hair
>>76316998
No, people used to criticize Socrates in the same way and eventually gave him the hemlock. They said he was corrupting the youth and that he had to go and die instead.
So people calling Stefan a cult leader is not surprising when he uses the same methods as Socrates and his inquiries lead to unorthodox ideals. People don't like having their preconceived notions challenged, many philosophers have died this way. But if you simply watch his videos you can see he is rational and reasonable. He always has sources for his information, it really is nothing like a cult.
>>76316998
He is the next Fuhrer.
>>76316998
how is he a cult leader in any way? he doesn't even want people to do anything, normally a cult leader basically hypnotizes or seduces people, and then moves forward with some other thing after corralling
dude just talks on a radio show and youtube, occasionally asks for donations
>>76317587
Please, Molymeme, don't compare yourself with Socrates.
I heard he was a jew, any truth to that?
>>76316998
Simply in love with the sound of his own voice. I challenge anyone to watch one of his videos to the end.
What do you guys think of based Bill Whittle?
Is he red pilled?
>>76318060
You deserve death.
>>76316998
He is the greatest philosopher of our time
>>76318012
not an argument
>>76317929
not an argument
>>76317854
Fuck off, your criticisms of his ideas are garbage so you have to resort to "He's corrupting the youth" and that is exactly like Socrates. Fact.
>>76318126
Mine was an argument you massive cunt.
>>76318169
not an argument
>>76318012
I do it all the time.
>>76318235
Guess what your post wasn't.
>>76318060
>(((Bill Whittle)))
Typical two faced RINO kike
>>76316998
He's just overdosed on red pills. He should be a warning for all /pol/tards what will become of them.
>>76317587
Are you actually comparing Socrates to Stefan Molyneux? He's a third rate youtube snakeoil salesman not a serious thinker.
>>76317587
An actual redpill. Guaranteed though /pol/ will be stupid as fuck.
>>76318060
What do you guys think of based Red Pill?
Is he bill whittled?
>>76318270
Maybe Stefan Molyneux cannot be compared to Socrates, however I think the audience of Stefan Molyneux can be compared to the audience of Socrates. Both act irrationally in the face of unorthodox ideas. Both would rather discredit the philosopher than to actually address what the philosopher is saying.
>>76316998
Molymeme is a national socialist. Of course he's a cult leader. He intends on bringing forth the Fourth Reich in Canada.
>>76316998
Wouldn't't a cult leader have to have an actual cult?
Where is his compound and can I get a bunk?
>>76318515
get off the proxy, stephan
SPONGEBOB
>>76318546
Don't give me false hopes, anon
>>76318774
kek
>>76317587
Second post best post.
>>76316998
He will be when he goes so far down the rabbit hole he starts teaching people how to meme like this
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>>76318634
Do you feel like arguing with me today any time soon? I've built a solid case against the people who make irrational criticisms against Stefan, what the fuck are you doing? Incompetent non-arguments.
>>76318126
Name me one cult leader that ever has a full head of hair.
>>76318546
He'd be lynched sooner than you can say "not an argument"
Canadians would sooner turn to full blown communism.
maybe but even worse the guy is an idiot when it comes to philosophy, cringiest shit ever
>>76318807
All in good time
https://youtu.be/_3yAulC10qI?t=2069
>>76319151
No I just want you to get off the proxy, Stephen.
Jesus fuck the shit posting in here. Real reason people criticize stef:
He's intellectually dishonest. He cannot handle any criticism to his theories at all. Look up Universally preferable behaviour debunked/refuted/whatever and read the stories of what happens everytime someone proves him wrong.
If he is a cult leader, he's either bad at it or still in the starting phases. As it stands now, no, I don't think he is but he def has the potential to be.
If you want to see a real modern day cult leader look at Anita Sarkisian
>>76316998
>like some have claimed
pretty sure it's only one type of 'person' who claims that
>typical jidf tactic
>>76319192
Could name a few.
He's just a reboot of Glenn Beck
Stefan Molyneux admits to being jewish
http://youtu.be/edtWe759KIw?t=57s
Stefan Molyneux runs a cult where he convinces vulnerable people who had a decent childhood that they were abused by their parents
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/nov/15/family-relationships-fdr-defoo-cult
http://youtu.be/Spe9JbmDOms?t=52m
Here's what happens when you give Stefan Molyneux money but not as much money as he wants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CM_--di7L8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znWSgJfsho
Stefan Molyneux Claims 'No War from 1815-1914 in Western Europe'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3T-SMoqc_M
Stefan Molyneux and defoo, defined (ignore the libertarian claptrap)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPwjUmS7Vw
Stefan debates Stefan on whether or not concepts exist and contradicts himself left and right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I1JdbGBFRs
Stefan Molyneux: "Fuck physics, make iPhones."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDoIilJ-_Z0
Stefan Molyneux: "Nothing I say is original"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEq--iEm5oI
Stefan Molyneux tells followers to cut off all family that disagrees with his ideology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZASruN-mIA
Stefan Molyneux believes the world needs his show for its survival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVa8VtsSQZY
Stefan Molyneux forgives his mother by not killing her
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jIMLKBVt00
Stefan Molyneux caims he doesn't think about his mother any more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HvUE5Odb9s
Stefan Molyneux initiates force, proving all of his moral arguments invalid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxT24kBnHD0
Joe Rogan, Stefan Molyneux Lied To You About DeFOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqCXpDFm4N0
Stefan Molyneux: A lot of people in my head are desperate for me to fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstVtJVItf4
Adventures in Stefan Molyneux's parenting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Aby3fpY8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXAxAxQ4HeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQvxz6gg4HA
>>76319027
Can we meme Molymeme into this the same way we memed Ben 'One Man Auschwitz' Garrison?
>>76317587
Good argument
>>76320096
we already did
>>76318060
Fuck off bill your a good guy and everything but you gotta cool it with the shilling in the stefan threads
>>76316998
What do you guys think of based Bill Whittle?
Is he red pilled?
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>>76320361
not an argument
where is arguments?
Only arguments past this point please
>>76316998
What do you guys think of based Bill Whittle?
Is he red pilled?
>>76316998
Now that he has come out of the red-pilled-closet, he'll be mercilessly dragged through the mud until dead.
>>76316998
Phil Collins being a cult leader? Geez..
>>76316998
yes, you can recognize his followers who say "not an argument".
>>76317587
Socrates didn't go around telling men that they're all poor victims and that the world has wronged them and needs to apologize. The way Stefan approaches his topics is akin to religious evangelism (i.e: here's a problem you didn't know you have and here is how my philosophy can fix said problem).
I would respect him more and compare him to Socrates if he gave the same tenacious questioning to all of the people that share his worldview, playing devils advocate to show that they actually have logic to back up their arguments.
>>76320991
See this earlier clarification of mine.
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>>76318060
THERE IT IS EVERYBODY
WORD FOR WORD
>>76320475
Not an argument.
>>76319805
I think any honest person who listens to Stefan Molyneux will admit he has some problem on a personal level. Stefan Molyneux seems to moved away from most of his vices. It seems the only videos that shows his vices are his predominantly philosophy videos and call-ins. His videos such as "The Truth About" series are generally based on facts rather than philosophy. If there is any philosophy, it's at the end summarizing the material and giving an analysis. Take the good and leave the DeFoo.
>>76319805
>Stefan Molyneux admits to being jewish
So?
>Stefan Molyneux runs a cult where he convinces vulnerable people who had a decent childhood that they were abused by their parents
She outright lies about his arguments.
>Here's what happens when you give Stefan Molyneux money but not as much money as he wants
Oh, no, he shames me for being a moocher, what a cult leader!
>Stefan Molyneux Claims 'No War from 1815-1914 in Western Europe'
Yeah, well, his point is still somewhat valid, there was relative peace during that time. Nobody is infallible, though.
>Stefan Molyneux and defoo, defined (ignore the libertarian claptrap)
fdrliberated? Not going to bother with this video, but everything I ever saw from that site was pure sophistry. Not an argument, admittedly.
>Stefan Molyneux: "Fuck physics, make iPhones."
No, actually "fuck living off stolen money, do something that people actually are willing to pay for".
>Stefan Molyneux: "Nothing I say is original"
Well, he contributes an amalgamation of a lot of disciplines, but I would definitely say that people should read other philosophers, too.
>Stefan Molyneux tells followers to cut off all family that disagrees with his ideology
PhilosophyLines is a sophist who only ever attacks strawman versions of the object of his obsession. Funnily, if Molyneux made the same argument about defooing race-mixing family members, the white nationalists would probably agree wholeheartedly. "If your sister gets impregnated by Tyrone, ends as a single-mother and asks for handouts, she wants you enslaved or shot".
>Stefan Molyneux believes the world needs his show for its survival
He is a bit full of himself, but do you really disagree that the masses need someone who brings wisdom to them?
>Stefan Molyneux forgives his mother by not killing her
I don't get the people who fail to understand this.
>Stefan Molyneux initiates force, proving all of his moral arguments invalid
Pure sophistry, even the title is just a fallacy.
>>76316998
>Is he actually a cult leader like some have claimed? What's the truth behind that?
I think he has chosen to position himself as a republican in the Radio Market. He is much more based that a "Glenn Beck" that pulls on your emotions and heart strings with propaganda type programing.
- But I would image him like a professor of history in describing him to someone
Michael Hoffman videos describe some history of white slavery which matches up well with Stefan Molyneux video. Check it out.
>>76321999
He himself goes into his own problems on a personal level. And also he extrapolates all the details of an abusive or neglectful home and the impacts on the child. Some people have said that this is a cult to get young men disassociated with their parents. First of all, that is not an argument. Calling someone a cult leader is not an argument in the same way that the mob saying that Socrates was "corrupting the youth" is not an argument. Second of all, you are assuming that young men disassociating with their parents is a bad thing, in the same way that a battered wife goes back to her husband is a bad thing right? Of course that is not wrong, if your parents were going to the club instead of raising you, if your parents were concerned with themselves and not you, if your parents didn't feed or give you clothing, if your mother divorced your father with no consideration of the effects on you, of course you should not have a good relationship with them.
>>76322632
is not a bad thing*
>>76320488
What do you guys think of
Craig B. Hulet?
Michael Hoffman?
Paul Craig Roberts?
V the Guerrilla Economist on Rogue Money?
Bill Whittle is like a Neocon isn't he???
>>76319805
Please tell me that anti-physics video was a joke.
>>76319027
No Evidence Provided.
Lazy Student or Lazy Academics.
>>76322632
The problem with Stefan Molyneux is that he extends disassociating with family beyond child abuse. He actually says that if any family or friends would initiate force on them through the state (e.g., taxation) then his listeners should DeFood from them. See the following video. There is no other way to interpret it.
Cultish Molyneux Tells Followers to Cut Off All Non-Ancap Family & Friends as 'They Want You Dead!'
@ 2:05
https://youtu.be/SZASruN-mIA?t=2m5s
>>76316998
Watch him get fucking destroyed in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GbDnZD0upU
>>76323495
I didn't hear him tell anyone that they should do it, but even if, I just don't see how his argument is wrong.
>>76323792
Ryan Dawson is fucking based beyond belief.
>>76316998
I don't know or care if he is. It seems like its just a smear tactic so people don't take his politically incorrect views seriously. He's not trying to defoo me in the middle of a video about trump, so I don't mind.
>>76317587
>No, people used to criticize Socrates in the same way
It sounds like you're comparing the guy in OP's pic to fucking Socrates. You serious? rofl
>>76324653
See the clarification here
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>>76316998
>Is he actually a cult leader like some have claimed? What's the truth behind that?
No, anyone like him that gets popular gets called a cult leader.
>>76323495
Sometimes the reality is uncomfortable, but typically people don't associate people who have radically different ideology from them.
![Nelson-Mandela-What-can-one-person-do[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9XPUSwE.jpg "Nelson-Mandela-What-can-one-person-do[1].jpg")
>>76318973
I have to say, these signs triggered the hell out of me.
>>76316998
It had to do with what he was preaching a couple of years ago. He was somewhere between a libertarian and a socialist. His politics were sort of entry-level and the advice he gave for developing and maintaining your relationships was just outright insane.
He talked a lot about how much he hates regulation and The State™, and a lot about how he hated his single mother for spanking him. He advised a lot of people to just throw away their families and any friends who were not willing to change their beliefs. He made a lot of Rand Paul-esque comparisons with government-funded violence and police action and blamed normies for allowing it to happen, advising all followers to cut ties with everyone except for other "enlightened" folk.
It was really weird and even though he never said it, his advice made him sound really edgy and like a cult leader. He was not actually a cult leader. He's calmed down a lot as he has observed the political world more, but he is still prone to sweeping generalizations that compare almost everything to child abuse and gun violence.
He usually sounds more like a typical professor or activist nowadays, but before he did a very poor job of explaining himself and came off as a weird terrorist. His core ideas have not changed but he emphasizes realpolitik much more than he used to.
>>76316998
Wouldnt a cult require that people are punished or stalked if they leave it?
>>76325708
kek
Thats exactly how those Libtards are. Well memed.
>>76316998
this entire thread is not an argument
>>76318012
I love the sound of my voice and I have trouble making my own ideas succinct, preferring to flesh out my thought processes in a more meandering manner.
His intonation and vocal cadence cam get annoying, for sure, but I can't let myself argue against the length of his pieces without feeling like a hypocrite.
Plus, his stuff makes for a decent alternative to music or NPR when I'm commuting.
>>76320475
>76320475
Did we turn him to the dark side?
