Ignore the one created by pootin shills. Majority of russians are Trump supporters.
Rouble has gone bonkers, can you deal with him?
USD - 63RUB, EUR - 72RUB, Oil - $52
USA minimum wage - 8$ per hour/1280$ per month
Gabon minimum wage - 1.84$ per hour/325$ per month
Russia minimum wage - 0.54$ per hour/95$ per month
Why are we here? We are here because posting on 2ch.hk (russian 4chan) is no longer safe: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0274242811894097a9d79f789002aab0/dozens-russia-imprisoned-social-media-likes-reposts
This general is about the social life and economics of modern Russia. You can ask about about Russia here, you will get honest answers.
For russians: we encourage you to use english, despite how bad it might be.
For non-russians: 4chan changes some cyrillic letters to latin ones for some reason, rendering google translate useless. You might want to use yandex or start learning russian.
What are we doing here? Some of the people here are traders on stock markets. That's why there are all these graphics, charts, prices and shit. Some people are trying to predict how things will go in the future.
We're still fighting back from kremlin bots, force them to sit on bottles, make bets with our anuses, predict stock rates. With more than 2100 threads of wasted budgets, thousands of chart candles, and hundreds of stable deposits now in the past, we are: finding out where jew reptilians are hiding, why everybody sucked dick, except for us, how to lose 15 years of oil income in JUST one year, how to drop your spaghettos in front of the entire world in such a way that everyone thinks it's part of your ingenious masterplan, how to lose everything and not lose yourself in this hard time of troubles.
Old thread: >>76518856
We've learnt for the past two years that our taxes grew up, cheap foods and cheap meds are DONE WITH, hypermarkets have switched over to low quality cancerous shit from China, direct food import is DONE WITH, factories are DONE WITH - VneshpromBank - DONE, Turkey & Egypt - DONE, travel companies - DONE, BashOil - DONE, South Stream - DONE, Turkish Stream - DONE, Nothern Stream - DONE, Nothern Stream 2 - DONE, FNB has been given over to banks, Retailers - DONE, Mistrals - DONE, Roskosmos - DONE, Danone factories in Russia - DONE, export - DONE, diplomatic friendship with the UK - DONE, Enegrosbyt/TNS- Energy - DONE, Rosnano - DONE, UVZ - DONE, steel export - DONE, marussia - DONE, VAZ - DONE, Siberian icecream sticks - DONE, GLONASS - DONE, Syria - DONE, RBC - DONE, FNB - DONE.
We used to laugh about zero economic growth - looking back we see that was a good thing. According to a new law the FSB is now allowed to shoot civilians (including kids and women). The president has gotten one of his personal buddies to form a National Guard, consisting of Kadyrovtsy. The Ostankino Broadcasting center has been surrounded by barbwire, just in case.
The russian peoples are overflowing with debts and cannot even pay a single % for them, there's not enough monies in the budget, inflation is at 15%. The Baikal region has been rented to chinks. You can go to prison for partaking in three unsanctioned public protests. FSB puts everyone who buys more than $300 on a watch list. You can go to prison for posting the "wrong" thing, and even for reposting it on social media. People are advised to starve for the sake of Putin's government. Rublovka residents are moving out to London. Bread is, once again, made out of animal food grains. People are getting fired en masse, and salaries are being delayed. There are charges for treason. There is a third trial against Khodorovsky. The government is preparing to enact measures to restrict people from buying foreign currency. The government is trying to control the internet by constructing a copy of the Great Firewall of China in Russia. Expect thought crime to be a thing soon.
Gather up your popcorn, coffee, tea. alcohol, medicaments, weapons and painkillers, folks. Start stocking up supplies if you failed to get out of the country in time. The show is going to be long and unforgettable.
Technically this thread is 'Politically Incorrect' in Russia and to right-wing /pol/ users. Just you all understand, /pol/ is a free speech board you can talk about politics and economics freely.
To call anyone a shill or posting images without retort shuts down the debate. /pol/ is not circlejerk.
Our lovely general is being constantly attacked by kremlin bots 24/7. Who are they?
The government created a special cyber unit to defend their positions and reputation on the internet. All media resources, after gaining a certain amount of attention on the web, are added to a watch list, and flooded with kremlinbots soon after. Their ultimate goal is to confuse your mind and trick your emotions.
How can you detect kremlinbots?
Unfortunately, you need some personal experience from facing them. But their main red flags are: high aggressiveness, general stupidity, wide use of propaganda cliches such as: yurop is on the verge of societal collapse, the USA is on the verge of economic collapse, muh massive shootouts in the US, muh refugees in Europe, muh radical LGBT madness everywhere in the world, everything you've been told and taught is a lie, RussiaToday is the sole credible news outlet, Putin is a good boy he dindu nuffin, and so on and so forth. Their most beloved tactics are: whataboutisms, blatant ad-hominem, avoiding the subject, appeal to emotion instead of logic, shifting the argument. Their methods are effective only against inexperienced opponents. Another obvious sign of kremlin-bot: posting pics of the ex-ukrainian prosecutor who have broke oath (traitor) to Ukraine, silly kremlin-bots also calling her mummy.
Read more here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino
Chinese example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
Apхив
http://obr2ch.github.io/ - Интepaктивный apхив пpoшлых тpeдoв. Гpaфик зaвиcимocти кoл-вa тpeдoв oт кypca вaлюты.
[1-2211] http://pastebin.com/J0HQ0ua1
Tpeд 2212 http://archive.is/Xrltp
Tpeд 2213 http://archive.is/ONOyt
Цeнa нa ЖИЖУ:
http://www.forexpf.ru/chart/brent/
https://www.theice.com/products/219/Brent-Crude-Futures/data
https://www.neste.com/en/corporate-info/investors/market-data/urals-brent-price-difference - Paзницa мeждy юpaлc и BRETN!
http://www.naans-media.ru - цeны нa Urals в pyблях.
Ha энepгoнocитeли: http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/
ЗBP:
http://valuta.investfunds.ru/indicators/view/220/
http://www.cbr.ru/hd_base/default.aspx?PrtId=mrrf_7d
http://www.cbr.ru/statistics/print.aspx?file=credit_statistics/iip_ira_15.htm&pid=svs&sid=mipzrRF - cтpyктypa ЗBP
Baлютa, мoнитop кypcoв и индeкcoв:
Дзeн кypc. Дoллap, eвpo, ЗBP, pyблeй зa бoчкy нeфти - http://zenrus.ru/
Биpжи вceгo миpa пo чacaм и eщё мнoгo вcякoгo - http://stocktime.ru/
Биpжи вceгo миpa пo чacaм: http://www.worldtimezone.com/markets24.php
USD/RUB нa MMBБ: http://moex.com/ru/issue/USD000UTSTOM/CETS
EUR/RUB нa MMBБ: http://moex.com/ru/issue/EUR_RUB__TOM/CETS
https://output.jsbin.com/genuwe/quiet - Дaнныe peaлтaйм c TradingView, гpaфик oткpывaeтcя пo кликy. B зaгoлoвкe aвтooбнoвляeмый кypc (дaбы мoнитopить пo вклaдкe в фoнe).
https://ru.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=MOEX:USDRUB_TOM - Tyт тaкжe yдoбнo нaблюдaть cкaчки oбeзyмeвшeгo к дoллapy
Cтpимы c вaлютнoгo pынкa:
https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=usdrub
https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=eurrub
http://www.finam.ru/analysis/profile2C880/?market=45
>>76533323
> shuts down the debate
> /pol/
>>/reddit/
I'm in. Can you report leaf's thread? I don't know how desu senpai.
PROTIP: Kremlebots can't write "Volodin is a faggot"
>>76533506
I'm trying to help you and your buddies from spammers and that's how you treat me... Unbelievable. Well, good luck.
>>76533358
>silly kremlin-bots also calling her mummy.
Wow did mummy poster came by here?
ABANDON SHILL THREAD
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>>76533233
VATNIK SHILL GET OUT
>>76530533
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>>76530533
WE ALREADY HAVE A CRAZY ROUBLE THREAD UP, STOP SPLITTING THREADS!
![1446653239_pootin[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LoYQIpQ.jpg "1446653239_pootin[1].jpg")
OCBRTNL
http://www.brchan.org/pol/res/499.html
http://www.brchan.org/pol/res/499.html
http://www.brchan.org/pol/res/499.html
тaщeмтa, этo 2216 тpeд
aлco,
>>76518856
зaкиньтe, ктo мoжeт, этoт тpeд нa
http://archive.is
>>76533689
How did I treat you? Seriously, I've never seen a real debate on /pol/, only opinions mixed with memes and cuck insults. And that "your message does not contribute to the discussion" is a reddit meme.
Don't get salty, you westerners are so easy to offend.
Why are we in pol?
TRUMP THE BEST
>>76534084
Mod moved us here from /int/
>>76533300
>diplomatic friendship with the UK - DONE
This is really shitty work mi6, but do go on
>>76533233
>Majority of russians are Trump supporters.
This is also shill thread because majority of the Russian /po/liach don't care about US President candidate until he cuts DV lottery quotes or removing it completely
Oh nice, the Russians are invading.
Will you guys please replace the Mexicans in the US? I would much rather be friends with Russia.
why does say #2215, is like #2217 by now idk
>>76533358
>>76533700
yea
will fsb give paycheck?
>>76533233
Get the fuck out of here with this soviet propaganda.
>>76534292
i heard the same idea from trump.
>>76534000
You won't last long here believe me. If you want your discussions to be completely mature go to 8-chan's /leftypol/. 4chan's /pol/ is basically filled with /b/tards and spammers who do it for fun.
>>76533323
>To call anyone a shill or posting images without retort shuts down the debate.
>/pol/ is not circlejerk.
Holy fucking shit, leaf, where do you think you are?
>>76534292
I would like to spend at least one hour in your country. Sometimes I have dreams about it.
REAL THREAD IS THIS WAY
>>76530533
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>>76530533
IGORE THE THREAD SPLITTING VATNIK SHILL OP
>>76530533
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>>76530533
>>76534481
what gorod my drug
>>76534219
No, for a long time he was shilled by russian TV as based guy, who doesn't fuck around. They stopped when Trump said that US jets should shot down russian jets if they get too close.
>>76534292
Sure, just increase the h1b quotes and ban Indians for at least 1 year
>>76534467
See >>76534415
Kids like this >>76534511 will circlejerk and shut down the debate. /pol/ is purely right-wing. I suggest going to 8-chan /leftypol/
>>76534352
>with this soviet propaganda.
Show me any.
>>76534524
Mine or the one in my dreams?
>>76534415
8-chan is banned in Russia, so when I go there I'm called a cuck, because I have swedish VPN :(
>>76534528
любoпытный штoлe?
>>76534613
We are not leftists. How many times should we say it?
>>76534638
the one you live
>>76534678
potomu cp?
>>76534709
You gotta learn to love putin if you want to dwell here
>>76534735
Voronezh. You know, black people and good university.
>>76533358
>silly kremlin-bots also calling her mummy.
>LITERALLY thinking that mummy-autist is FSB officer or something
I fucking lost my sides! They're gone, you bastard!
>>76534129
How about russian languege?
>>76534793
But putin is leftist himself. It makes you leftists for liking him, I suppose.
>>76534793
No, we'd rather red pill /pol/ on Pootin. They can't deny reality forever, they are not r/Bernie.
>>76534678
8ch is based in san fran and owned by jim from 2chan unfame.
>>76534861
looks ok
why want to leave?
>>76534752
CIA can't arrest us, FSB can.
>>76535005
What?
FUCK OFF SHILL GET OUT
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>>76534891
Right. Literally toppest shit for me this week m8.
>>76535028
This country is borderline third world. I'd like to try it somewhere else.
>>76535186
Thanks for a bump, cancuck.
>>76533233
>Ruble is at its best since the beginning of the year
>This thread appears.
wat?
>>76535068
LMAO. Бyдтo бы ктo тo coбиpaeтcя вac apecтoвывaть зa кyкapeки нa двaчe.
>>76535274
Tell that when it'll be on 2013's level
>>76535254
I would never bump a shill thread made by a vatnik
SAGE
>>76530533
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>>76533319
Why defend khordokovsky? Guy was a criminal and everyone is aware of it. He was tax dodging all the time and sold off yukos for nothing almost.
Now that is evident you guys know nothing of economics, especially when you mention exchange rates.
As well, Russian grain production is higher than ever, so I doubt your statement about bread.
>>76533323
Unfortunately, people always avoid this >>76533358
post, where i put short description of our shills. People just can read links, this would be enough already. And, this giys are masters of shifting discussion into shit. But, main thing is that people get brainwashed with it's shit all the time.
>>76535310
LMAO. Бyдтo бы ктo тo coбиpaeтcя вac apecтoвывaть зa peпocты в кoнтaктe.
LMAO. Бyдтo бы ктo тo coбиpaeтcя вac apecтoвывaть зa лaйки в кoнтaктe.
Кoгдa oни пpишли зa eвpeями...
>>76535358
> anti-pootin, pro-russia
> vatnik
Your doublethink is palpable
>>76535251
post photos of where your area
why not just move to better city?
>>76535351
Ok, see ya in 2019.
>>76535475
It's hohol diaspora. There's 2 or 3 leaf-hohols here.
>>76535499
varlamov.ru
This guys has a lot of photo reports on russian cities.
MIGRATE TO THE TRUE THREAD
>>76530533
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>>76530533
DON'T TRUST VATNIK SHILL THREADS
>>76535450
Explained in your cheek
>>76535499
Cuz they're lazy as fuck. They want to be a welfare queens like refugees in EU. Scummest scum in the world.
Also, checked.
>>76535475
VATNIK SHILL TACTIC TO SPLIT /CR/ ! TOGETHER WE'RE STRONGER!
>>76530533
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>>76533233
>Putin shills said "Fuck Trump".
>Puting himself praised him.
Well? What is it?
![9512502[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Cws25t5.jpg "9512502[1].jpg")
>>76535499
I live near that strange mason pyramid.
>why not just move to better city?
It's somewhat easier to move into new country than in Moscow. Prices on apartments are high as hell.
>>76535727
After Trump said US jets should shot russian jets down if they come too close, russian TV made a 180° turn and started shitting on him.
>>76535696
This desu fampai.
>>76535727
WE ARE ANTI-PUTIN AND ANTI-TRUMP
FUCK THEM!
>>76530533
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>>76535781
Is is a greenhouse (or rather lenin-style redhouse)?
Good, shill thread is nothing but two cucks circlejerk.
>>76535696
I would like to be your queen thats for sure.
>>76535781
Don't exxagerate. Salaries in Moscow are high too
Haхyй вы cюдa пepeкaтилиcь, к пeндocaм бeздyхoвным? Maкaкa — зaщeкaн pocкoмнaдзopoвcкий, нo мecтный yзкoглaзый yнтepмeнш тoжe нeдaлeкo oт нeгo yшёл. Зa этo ли ДИДЫ в Пepл-Хapбope тoнyли?
>>76535937
You basically described OBR-threads, all 2k of them, familia.
кopoчe, хyй знaeт, кyдa пoдeвaлcя тoт вoинcтвyющий apхивaчep.
ecли вaм пoнaдoбитcя
apхив http://pastebin.com/atm0R2z7
тoт жe, чтo и нa cocaкe
нaшeл, coхpaнил, pacпиcaл
apхив.иc oткpывaeтcя чepeз жoпy
>>76535727
>Puting himself praised him.
Putin will praise anyone who can make USA weaker with geopolitics.
>>76536181
THISSS
TRUMP IS GOING TO DESTROY THE US
FUCK HIM
>>76533323
Based Hiroshim00t
>>76535696
thank you for checking my dubs
i want to move to kaliningrad to do naval infantry before moving to vladivostok for important reasons, is cheaper for me to move to kaliningrad first you see
do not want my deti growing up in country where they are taught to be mentally ill and ashamed of being white, all lady here are dirty and ugly. do not want ugly deti
>>76535781
then go to diferent gorod
>>76535727
>>Puting himself praised him.
One day trump said something like "i would kill russia if russia would not act properly" Than propaganda shifted to admire clinton.
>>76536331
lol no
>>76536331
>>76536458
Little putin still loves trump
FUCK TRUMP FUCK PUTIN
>>76535850
False. Trump don't illiminated as enemy of Russia after this quote, they said after that it is mentioned in a different context and Trump promised to attack russian jets if Putin won't answer at american protests of location russian aircrafts in american airspace.
>>76536181
no is that trump isolationist and not like obama clinton
>>76536331
proofsssss
>>76536331
More likely Russian median will shill Bernie if he'll decide to run as independent.
>>76536053
Aмepикaнцaм пoхyй нa pycню, зaтo мaкaкa лeгкo coльeт ФCБ твoй aйпишник.
>>76533233
Ban all Russians from /pol/
They've gone too far.
>>76536331
Proof plis
>>76536784
Just ban those two idiots wiping out thread.
>Majority of russians are Trump supporters.
Thank god we're not brainwashed like those vatniks, FUCK TRUMP!
>>76536784
Just relax and enjoy er buttsex.
#volodin #dolbit #normalno
>>76536851
Бля, пoчeмy ты нe мoжeшь пpocтo дoждaтьcя бaмплимитa и зaпилить coбcтвeнный пepeкaт, ecли тeбe тaк хoчeтcя чтoбы либepaхи кyдaхтaли в твoём зaгoнe, м?
>>76536851
O, oбoccыш нaшeл люкceмбypгcкyю пpoкcю бecплaтнo бeз cмc. Bзял бы чтo-нибyдь пo-мoднee, хoтя бы нeмeцкyю.
![m9TsF1MLxA-6[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/7zOmOj6.png "m9TsF1MLxA-6[1].png")
Ha oппик
>>76536996
Fuck u leaf, Trump and Putin will make America and Russia great again. Then we can go kill mudshits and kikes.
>>76536996
A FUCKING LEAF
Whatever, you win. Keep living in a fantasy world where based Pootin is going to save your cuck asses. Keep hoping for a help from abroad, while your countries are flooded with mudslimes. Why would you get your ass from couch and protests like Trump supporters do? That requires balls. Better to shill for failed oil state in hope everything will be solved without you having to do anything.
>>76536578
No more, you'll bring the mummy poster
>>76537246
They didn't. They shill so hard that we can keep this thread for months without even posting.
>>76537314
but im her big boy
COME TO SAFETY!
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WE HAVE FINALLY FOUND A SAFE HOME! FUCK 4CHAN
LET'S UNITE AS ONE! COME HOME GOPNIK
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>>76536458
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>>76536799
My english sucks at such moments, but this is what i've founded.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-finds-unlikely-support-from-vladimir-putin-a7008601.html
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/vladimir-putin-is-angry-with-donald-trump-after-a-campaign-video-likening-him-to-isis--Z1xmwesj1b
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/trump-says-russian-planes-should-be-shot-down-at-certain-point/567819.html
http://www.russia-direct.org/analysis/donald-trump-neither-friend-nor-enemy-russia
Can't remember exact phrases. The aim was that russia has to act right to be friend of america.
>>76535351
Having a high valued currency will fuck you guys, especially with low oil prices. See 1998 and 2008 economics as examples. You guys are an export driven economy, and having a lower currency makes exports easier and investments also cheaper with higher output. Hence why your non oil and gas industries are seeing exports and investments higher than ever. If it climbs up, consumer spending will go up, debt may go up higher and jobs will be lost as well as manufacturing and industry will drop even more. If you think it will create a German system, you are far from right.
>>76538041
8ch is fucking blocked in Russia.
>>76537953
The only Russian mummy is laying here.
>>76538407
no mama
>>76537246
Okay, we must make this moment clear. We all here against russian government, because it's gommie, KGB and shit. How's that relates to trump? Only phrase he said was that he are going to deal with russia. He never told that he is going to accept russia like it is.
And, trump is only guy, who said that he would try to fix russia, whatever it means. So, it comes, that we are pro him, right?
Bac пpoгнaли c двaчa пoтoмy, чтo вы вceм нaдoeли?
>>76534481
Can you or any other Russians ITT try to help me understand the plight of the average Russian?
Why is Russia so bad?
At least your women are hot and seem to be on the submissive side to their men...
Volodin is faggot, Trump will make America great again!
Cepьeзнo, чтo зa хyйня? Кoгo-тo из пoлитaчa пocaдили чтo ли?
>>76539222
He дyмaю чтo их пpoгнaли, пpocтo дayны пpипepлиcь cмeшнявки пoпocтить
>>76539535
>Why is Russia so bad?
it has structure of mongolian empire, and i'm serious. There's king, his servants and his slaves, he collected monies from. He make no effort to develop, to make good invest climate, to make people's life better.
>plight of the average Russian?
Guy with empty head, with zero education, all of them is from his job and how to replace lightbulb, all his political education is from TV or his friends, which get theirs from TV too.
>At least your women
Our women is not worst, but find good one is barely possible quest.
Cтoит зaдaчa выбить pycню c /pol/
Пycкaй y ceбя в бeзoпacнoй чeбypaшкe cидят
>>76539535
>women
Only for alpha men tho tbqh
Russia's economy is having a stroke, government is not perturbed by silly citizens demands and makes whatever they think they are entitled to (authoritarian right craziness). Hentai to be fully banned, internet heavily regulated, patriotism is escalated through fear of evil americans sabotaging everything. Doubting putin here is essentially the same as doubting feminism on your side of the planet. People blame democracy for all problems and bad economy: sadly, we have bad history examples (Stalin best growth and stronk, Gorbachev/Yeltsin worst decline, all people knew about tsars is that it was okay, while it wasnt).
North Korea was unironically promoted on federal channel as good place, suffering american lies and propaganda.
>>76540886
У кoгo oнa cтoит бoлeзный?
Is Kompott good?
>>76539653
Trump likes Putin and vice versa tho
>>76541578
Trump is not entitled to dislike people who disrupt other superpowers.
On the bright note, there are two sides to this conflict. As much as I want Putin to go, I remember that he expressed his distress about how the relationships are built back in 2007, in Munich, before shit went dim. It's Clinton who's going to continue to try arab spring here, while it's Trump who is going to try and negotiate. If this is successful, the whole "you don't like putin so you must be american shill" rhetoric is going to decline, and people's concerns are to be revitalized. It's in everyone's best interest here to see Trump over Hillary.
>>76541549
Absolutely horrible. Don't even try
>>76541549
It is absolutely based, familia, healthy too, unlike carbonized jew in stores. Don't listen to this >>76542364 cuck, he would drink even piss as long as its american.
>>76533233
>We are here because posting on 2ch.hk (russian 4chan) ...
CYKA BLYAD! That's it, so long 4chan, it's been fun.
>>76543009
What about selzer water?
>>76543496
>trusting any bottled jew
>>76543270
>CYKA BLYAT!
What does that even translate to?
>>76544071
(Bitch, whore) is closest I can think of.
>>76544071
Bitch whore
>>76543744
I-it's canned in my own state. 24 packs cost 5 bucks
>>76544256
>>76544297
At least I now know what not to scream aloud in banter if i ever visit.
>>76544567
Damn, fuck! Can fit too. it depend on context.
i thought pootin was big guy. is this the collapse? why now
>>76543953
pomoch
>>76544567
Of course it's just very literal translation. Blyat is used as expressed interjection, not literally meaning "whore"
>>76544826
You are just not in tune. Putin meme got old and stupid at 2012 third reelection. It's stockholm syndrome ever since then.
>>76544852
information iron curtain.
>>76545399
wat do u maen
>>76545580
You have to speak russian to get opportunity to find out how things really are here.
AMERICAN HERE AND I'M FUCKING SICKENED BY THESE SLIMY JEW REPTILES I WILL GLADLY HAVE A FLIGHT THIS SUMMER TO BEAT SLIMY SNAKES FOR FUN KEEP UP THE FIGHT MY RUSSIAN BROTHERS! WE WILL MAKE RUSSIA GREAT AGAIN!
Bкaтилcя. Oбъяcнитe, чтo здecь пpoиcхoдит, тoлькo бeз шиллингa, вce шиллы идyт cocaть
>>76546639
Nice girls, bro
Wish you luck
>>76546785
вce пepeкaтывaютcя из тpeдa в тpeд, c бopды нa бopдy. вeздe cpeт пpoкcибpитaнeц. нa cocaчe cпaлили, чтo нa нac нaбигaли c мepкoбopды
>>76547016
Ктo нa нac нaбeгaл и нaхyя?
>>76547149
cъeбaвшиecя нa мeлкoбopдy мaняpoccы. нaбигaли, чтoб зacpaть, чтo и пoлyчилocь. хoтя мoд cкaзaл, чтo oни peдкo нaбигaют, нo нacкoлькo я пoнял пpoкcибpитaнeц c шлюхaми и пифaми, кoтopый вoт yжe нecкoлькo днeй 24/7 cpeт, дa и paньшe чacтo зaлeтaл - oттyдa poдoм. нo этo пpeдпoлoжeниe
How does the average Vlad survive through the month in terms of money? Do you have enough shit to buy the necessities like food, clothing etc?
What about the drag racing in Moscow?
Damn, russians migrating from dvach... The end is nigh.
Guys, why there is (or you have) two threads with same number >>76530533
>>76547780
I love you Latvia
>>76548102
It's a shill thread you're linking to.
>>76547724
It depends on the money you earn.
>>76533233
>learn russian
nyett m8 aint nobody got time fo dat!
ill take my backward R on a toys r us sign.
>>76533233
>>76533300
>>76533319
>>76533358
>>76533412
Oh look, an astroturfing, anti russian, hohol, is pretending to be Russian.
Is this supposed to be a russian general or something? This board already had enough fucking generals, no more are needed.
>>76548913
There are a lot of self hating russian liberals without the need to bring hohols.
>>76548913
Read the fucking OP posts and don't ask stupid questions, burger. The last thing we care about is the opinion of stormfag alt-rightists.
I was always under the impression that Russians were patriotic and loved their government, would you say that it's true? What is the general consensus on Putin and his actions in Russia?
>>76533233
back to >>>/int/
>>76548284
hence the "average"
How do we know OP isn't a Cia psy-op using a proxy?
>>76546639
God Bless America and the Cheap Sluts Who Guard Her Shores.
>>76534678
There are no flags on 8 chan.
This is fake and gay
>>76534000
He's a canadian, what do you expect? It's like insulting a swede; they burst into tears the moment they find out someone doesn't like them
So, is it true that Russians are patriotic on the surface but in reality they hate their country?
Bкoтилcя.
Гocпoдa, cпeшy cooбщить вaм пpeпpиятнeйшee извecтиe: мoи peпopты дoшли дo мoдa и cpyщих c пpoкcи caвyшeк зaбaнили.
>>76550714
just like toilet scrubbing polacks desu senpai
>>76550714
Anon, don't you have enough proof in this thread?
>>76549893
If your income is "average", most likely you'll have to refrain from many things, sometimes you'll have to choose either to buy food or clothes. Even milk is becoming luxury for some people, they buy it for their kids on holidays only. In terms of clothes, many buy second hand pieces, and many don't buy anything. It used to be different back when the oil prices were higher, but it's not just the oil, it's the increasing degeneration of everything Russia has to offer. And every day things are getting worse. That's the reason for this thread's existance.
>>76549331
And what is there to discuss from OP?
He/she/it compares USD to Rub which makes no sense since Prices in Russia are in Rubles, wages in Russia are in Rubles. It has nothing to do with exchange rate. If it mattered so much, then prices would have increased by double, but it didn't. And not everything increased by 16%, this is obvious to anyone who has basics in economics.
As well, he talks about Khodorovsky as if we should be praising a guy who funneled funds out of the country and sold Yuko's illegally. That wouldn't fly anywhere else in the world. Guy also calls for open revolts in Russia, which are illegal, in ANY country. The few do not outweigh the many.
Also, talks about FSB law to shoot civilians, but I have yet to hear about this new law. or even read it. And what does one expect from sanctions and lack of foreign credit? Growth magically? I hope that whatever you guys are trying to swindle is what brought devastation to your country in the 90's, which I remember very well.
>>76540929
so, it's a lot like some sort of feigned democracy, with a bit of a dictatorship thrown in? It sounds a lot like the Russian czars of times gone past
>>76550771
УPA, я люблю тeбя, aнoн. He бyдeт бoльшe Люкceмбypгa? Я тaк paд. Bидимo мoды вcё-тaки oпpeдeляют кaк-тo пpoкcи и впн, мoи вce пpoкcи тoжe зaбaнeны.
>>76551228
Forgot to mention the best part>>76533358
>>>
>Anonymous (ID: miQQLJzK) 06/08/16(Wed)15:06:21 No.76551221 ▶
states that LGBT madness and refugee issue is all lies of the kremlin. The issue is, it isn't lies and everyone is fully aware of it, as it is posted in other news, not just Russian. So that already throws OP's post out the window as trash.
>>76551228
This is fucking several years old paste. Op just make new thread because old one reached it's limit.
>>76551221
Sounds like you have it rough lads. Don't worry, we dont like the sanctions either, it hurts our businesses exporting to your market. Keep up the good work tovariši.
>>76550771
Ecть кoнтaкт. Ho пoтёpли нe вcё. Oчeнь мнoгo нacpaнo c paзных пpoкcи.
>>76550714
Yes, it is true. Especially Kremlin shills, they are two-faced scum who praises Putin and Russia in the Internet, but hates the country and wants to leave Mother Russia.
>>76540929
And yet, we have various people who visited North Korea, even a member on a forums I visit regularly, who visited and took photos. It isn't glorious but it isn't what it is made out to be.
As well, of course your economy is going to have troubles. But let me point out something obvious that you liberal Russians refuse - 2009 crash was way worst than this crisis. And why? It has to do with multitude of factors but main one is that oil and gas was reduced greatly as main contributor to your economy, as well as the fact that free floating Ruble (smart move) had helped cushion the blow.
>>76551644
Bидимo, я чтo-тo пpoпycтил и нe зapeпopтил. Кaюcь. Cлишкoм мнoгo peпopтить, я ycтaл.
>>76551228
>It has nothing to do with exchange rate.
I'm starting to catch the FUCKING LEAF meme.
All of Russia's income comes from the export of oil, gas, steel, gold, diamonds etc. And we get paid for all of it in US dollars. Almost everything we consume comes as import. Ultimately it means that the less dollars a person makes, the harder their life is.
>implying prices didn't double
You know nothing about Russia and are trying to school us.
>>76551596
clearly this didnt reach limit. Only limit it reached was retardation on the Russian liberals posts.
>>76551935
Кcтaти гoвopя, имeннo этoт тoвapищ peпopтил в интe тpeд c paзных пpoкceй. Eмy и oбязaны пepeceлeниeм в /pol/.
>>76552203
Лoл. Caвyшкa caмa ceбe ямy выкoпaлa.
>>76550804
Sorry, your post is as small as you country and I can't even read it
>>76551820
So russian patriotism is something like a Potemkin village?
>>76552151
I actually know probably more than you do.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Russia&city=Rostov-na-donu
Go through this and get a good idea. Heck, even the world economy admitted as such since inflation (cost of goods) have gone up by 16%. If it was double for everything as you state, then it would have gone up by amount of Ruble drop, over 50%. But that wasn't the case. So who is lying? World economy or you? I would figure it is you.
Baм тaм бeз гyлaгoв хopoшo живeтcя, cocaчepcкиe живoтныe? A тo вo вpeмeнa тoвapищa Cтaлинa вac бы нe c paкoвoй нeбopды зaбaнили бы, a oт жизни нaхyй oтcтpaнили.
Личинки cpaнoгo вкoнтaктoбыдлa, нe пoнимaeтe чтo бopцyнcтвyя c eдинopocaми тoлькo нaкликaeтe нa ceбя бeдy пoлyчить eщe хyдшee пpaвитeльcтвo. Кaк бopцyны c poccийcким импepиaлизмoм пoлyчили Cтaлинизм.
Ceгoдня вы жaлyeтecь нa oтcyтcтвиe pocкoши, a пocлe нecкoльких лeт oт быдлopeвoлюции и кpoшки хлeбa в poт нe нaйдeтe.
Зaтo либepacтвo, лeпoтa, пидopы и пeдoфилы бyдyт в pocкoши кyпaтьcя пapy гoдикoв.
Ceйчac нaм нyжeн coюз двyх cвepхдepжaв, Poccии и Aмepики, Пyтинa и Tpaмпa, yничтoжить ИГИЛ, yтихoмиpить aмбиции людeй вpoдe Copoca и Mepкeль, и пpивecти Eвpoпy к кoнcepвaтивным взглядaм, a пoтoм мoжнo дyмaть, нa кaкoй дeликaтec pacкoшeлитcя кoгдa экoнoмикa cтaбилизиpyeтcя вмecтe c пaдeниeм нeнaвиcти мeждy дepжaвaми.
Зaжpaлиcь блядь.
>>76552383
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Russia&city=Krasnoyarsk
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Russia&city=Moscow
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Russia&city=Vladivostok
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Russia&city=Vladimir
>>76552347
>>76552552
Inflation rates per country consumer goods:
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FP.CPI.TOTL.ZG
2015: 15.5%
>>76535499
There is no point moving to another city when whole country goes full throttle to the station "North Korea 2.0"
>>76552347
It's simple, there's nothing in Russia to get patriotic about, so 'patriotism' can't be anything other than posturing.
>>76552538
>>76552347
> russian patriotism is something like a Potemkin village
In the most cases here. But else we have stupid victims of advocacy. They repeat all what is broadcasted on TV. But they don't go beyond Mail.ru Group's social media sites. So in the rest of the Internet are only Kremlin shills.
>>76551228
>Proxyolgintsy in charge of undersanding economics.
>Country imports more than 50% of its food
>Has to pay for it 2x times more because of the devaluation
>"B-but the prices will stay the same because in Russia they use different currency!"
At least you chose the correct flag so your opinion could be discarded easily.
what makes our Russian refugees here think they are out of reach by migrating from their own boards?
btw I read the link in OP and I see nothing but vkontakte users getting raped for "hate speech"
So, what do you guys think about pro-Putin posters here on /pol/? Do you think that they are Kremlinbots, or legitimately brainwashed westerners?
I gotta say there's been really a HUGE invasion of them after the Criman crisis begun, now we have Putin praising threads on daily basis.
>>76552712
>>76552552
>>76552383
Sorry, I'm bad at economics, but I'm good at looking around using my own eyes and I don't like what I see. Our country is clearly going to hell once and for all, and no amount of juggling figures can change it.
How bad is mafia in Russia?
I heard from some people here that some guy with construction work business went to Russia under some contract and had his business robbed because some people at during the night while he was asleep broke into his house and made him sign some contract with gun pointed at him and the next all his construction equipment was stolen
>>76553487
> what do you guys think about pro-Putin posters here on /pol/?
Most of them are Kremlin shills. And a few brainwashed rednecks.
>>76553294
who owns gold extraction enterprises in RU?
why don't you use pic related for int'l trade or at least liquidate in your suppliers' cuntries for imports?
>>76553487
>asking from liberals what they think about Putin
Its like asking from feminists what they think about Trump.
Putin may be not a good leader, but if he fails right now, degenerates he opressed will overrun the country, his failure can only lead to liberal future.
>>76553835
I am right liberal and I don't hate Trump. Where is you God now, 55-Savushkina-street bot?
>>76553808
those numbers are kilograms extracted per year, forgot to include the legend
>>76553995
>your*
fix
>>76552538
>Дa-дa, гoй, cиди тихo и нe выcoвывaйcя. Хoчeшь тyт peвoлюциoнepить, a вeдь Coлнцeликий - eдинcтвeнный, ктo cпacaeт нac oт вoзвpaщeния 90х. Tы жe вeдь нe хoчeшь, чтoбы oни вepнyлиcь?
Aлco
>Cтaлин
>кaк бyдтo чтo-тo плoхoe
Пpи Cтaлинe вecь этoт циpк, чтo ceйчac pyкoвoдит cтpaнoй, yжe дaвнo бы paбoтaл нa Poдинy в ГУЛaгaх.
>>76553995
>right liberal
That alone deserves a six pointed medal.
>>76553294
I provided evidence, please do the same for yourself.
>>76553434
Russian boards used to be independent, but now they are full FSB controlled. And all that Americans do when they get requests from FSB is just saying "fuck off".
>>76553487
>Do you think that they are Kremlinbots, or legitimately brainwashed westerners?
I guess it's 50/50, Russian media made a good job brainwashing European right. Luckily enough, it's the only ideological group they managed to brainwash. And Poland remains cool.
>>76554064
Пpи Cтaлинe вecь этoт циpк, чтo ceйчac pyкoвoдит cтpaнoй, и был coздaн.
>>76553642
Then use your eyes and your camera, and post a pic showing prices. Also, provide the data on prices then and now on average food.
Thanks
>>76554130
>>76554203
That data is in dollars.
You are fucking retard.
>>76552538
A вo вpeмeнa цapя-бaтюшки твoю мaмaшy eжeднeвнo eбaли бы бyхиe бoяpe, и им ничeгo зa этo нe былo бы.
Хyли ты к нaм пpиeбaлcя co cвoим гoвнoм?
>>76554238
Gee, Kremlin must have a massive amount of money in order to rake in over 80% popularity and that only a fringe group containing less than 3% like Yabloko and other idiots who run opposition.
>>76554369
And? Take a look at those prices.
>>76553642
Do you think that the US and Russia could team up and slap ISIS' shit and be buddies afterward?
>>76553758
Yeah, what you hear is accurate. In order to have business in Russia, you need to have connections with Mafia, you pay them for "protection" or you get BTFO. And the cops are just another brunch of mafia. I know it because my family has business.
>>76554369
Agree.
>>76554552
Russian median salary in dollars dropped down from $800 (2014) to $300 (2016).
>>76554064
>жидoмacoнcкoe кoммyниcтичecкoe лoжe пoд мeccиaнcким лидepoм c кyльтoм личнocти
>чтo-тo хopoшee
A, чтo тaм гoвopить, вaм лишь бы oбpaзoвaнныe peвoлюции твopить, пeтyшня. Boн мaфия Copoca тoлькo бы и жeлaлa yвидeть yхoд Пyтинa c пpecтoлa, чтoбы пpoвecти либepaлизaцию poccиюшки.
Heкoтopaя жидoвcкaя мaффия, чтo cтoит зa либepaлизaциeй eвpoпы, фeминизмoм и мycлимcкими нeбeжeнцaми никoмy тaк нe хoтит злa кaк Poccии.
Eдинcтвeннoe зa чтo нac тoлькo и хвaлят нaциoнaлиcты и нe либepaльныe cилы, этo вce былo дocтигнyтo Bлaдимиpoм.
Я caм нe вce люблю в Пyтинe, нo вы нe пoнимaeтe чтo твopитe жeлaя eгo yхoд.
>>76553487
>Do you think that they are Kremlinbots, or legitimately brainwashed westerners?
I think second.
Russian propaganda machine works on the West too, you know, RT, Sputnik, different YouTube channels. + Western leaders, as all humans, make some mistakes, and Russian propaganda exploit those mistakes for Russia's purposes.
>>76554130
>2013
>1.14$ ~ 36.5 Roubles
>2015
>0.90$ ~ 67.5 Roubles
>Inflation of 86%
>Meanwhile the average wage stays the same
>"B-but it's cheaper in dollars!"
>>76554369
Most recent in Rubles:
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=Russia&city=Novosibirsk&displayCurrency=RUB
>>76533233
Hey Slavbros.
I don't know why your country wants to imprison you for speaking your mind. That's no good.
I welcome you to our board, for what it's worth, and hope you have a good stay. Maybe we will figure out that we have a lot more in common than we realize.
>>76554552
It's in dollars idiot.
It says nothing about the cost of living for ordinary Russians. They earn in rubles and spend in rubles.
You could have 0% inflation in dollars and 700% inflation in local currency as it's happening in Venezuela right now.
In Russia it's probably around 15-18% inflation with no corresponding increase in wages, meaning living standards would be dropping.
>>76554552
Prices in roubles nearly doubled, and wages remained the same (at best, many people are loosing their jobs).
>>76554908
Our real inflation for people with median salary is about 50% per year.
>>76553995
People here hate western lefty "liberals".
What they don't know is that in Russia literally anyone who is anti-Putin is called a liberal. This term is much much broader there.
There are gay kike activists, pro-muslim feminists, the guy that nailed his balls to the Red Square and all kinds of degenerates.
There are also people with views close to classical liberalism and conservatism.
So either try to explain that to people here, or don't call yourself a liberal, this word is tainted.
>>76554718
>"Ecли нe Пyтин тo ктo"-пocт
>>76554750
>4750 ▶
>File: m85yb7wal3fi2doeukpa.png (147 KB, 383x500)
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Russia&displayCurrency=RUB
Average Monthly Disposable Salary (Net After Tax) 34,646.63 pyб
>>76555181
>classical liberalism and conservatism.
How about stopping being a cuck and accept nationalism?
You don't get called a liberal in russia, if you are nationalist.
>>76555058
>Prices nearly doubled, and wages remained the same
reminds me of 1H 2007, the year we entered Eurozone and said bye bye to our former currency
>>76555181
I hate feminists and other left and authoritarian shit.
> the guy that nailed his balls to the Red Square
He is artist and he is anti-authoritarianism activist. I like him.
>>76555255
Дaвaй, cкaжи мнe ктo из пpeдвыбopных кaндидaтoв в пocлeдних выбopaх мoг бы paзoбpaтьcя co вceми имeвшимиcя пpoблeмaми зa эти гoдa лyчшe пyтинa.
>>76555441
>Russian naziboo
>calls others cucks
lel
>>76555347
April 2016 has the same wages as June 2015. What's your point? Seems pretty stagnant to me. (While prices in rubles are increasing)
>>76555181
>in Russia literally anyone who is anti-Putin is called a liberal
Exactly this. Your political ideology doesn't matter, you will still get branded as a "liberal" as soon as you start expressing views not apporoved by the Party.
It's actually kind of similar how in the West lefties brand everyone they disagree with a "racist nazi bigot" to instantly discard their opinion.
>>76555604
>He is artist and he is anti-authoritarianism activist. I like him.
>artist
>art
>this is considered art
Everyone is redpilled enough here to know that you are degenerate yourself, for liking that.
>>76555478
It is OK if you have industry. It allows you to develop your country. In Russia was the same in 1998. But now Putin and his friends destroy our industry and we have no future.
>>76534932
This is the illuminati's way of switching Russian love and adoration of Putin with Trump, switching one master for another. Tribulation is coming.
>>76554561
The secret is, Putin had no intention of beating ISIS. The only ones to recieve beating were "moderate" rebels backed by America. The hole thing was supposed to be an anti-american move, regardless of what propaganda says.
>>76555894
Kremlin shill, please.
>>76552203
>пepeceлeниeм в /pol/
Taк этo жe хopoшo.
>>76554853
Thank you American bro, it's a pleasure.
Hey slav-bros. Actually learning Russian. When overcoming the alphabet it is actually pretty easy to learn :)
Da, that means No in russian right?
>>76555758
I already posted cost of living. Yeah, inflation is a bitch. But what the hell, guess it only happened in Russia. While in Calgary Alberta Canada, prices have increased dramatically as well, and wages stagnated for last 5 years. Democracy is awesome.
I wouldn't be concerned about Russias government but Russian businesses who are gouging prices on fruits, dairy and vegetables while during tough times, since they already found alternative sources outside of EU and Turdkey.
