Good evening, Good Morning, Good afternoon and As-salamu alaykum.
Welcome to the /pol/ nightly Islam thread, a space for dialogue and understanding.
Myself and my Muslim brothers and sisters will try our best to clear up any misunderstandings or misgivings you may have about the world's fastest growing and oldest religion, Islam.
As always, serious questions will get serious answers. Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
To my fellow Muslims: How are your fasting preparations coming along?
Talking point: A common misconception is that Muslims are an ethnic or racial group, but that couldn't be further from the truth.
Why do you post this all the time, when you know 96% of posters will just shitpost.
Actually, better question: Do you really Unironicly believe anyone remotely likes Islam on this site, especially with all the Islamic Terrorist attacks in recent years?
Can you be this (you) hungry? Jesus Christ.
>>76051923
>Why do you post this all the time
This is a nest of Islamophobia populated by people who claim to be Christian and socially conservative.
It's essentially just ignorance of Islam, and an obsession with race theory which distracts these people from the truth.
It's also Da'wah, and it makes sense since when I was younger and more stupid I used to come here, and was basically like you.
>when you know 96% of posters will just shitpost.
And I will filter them like always. You'd be surprised how many of the spammers are the same ID.
>>76051565
what are the best preparations for conversion? any recommended readings besides the Koran? also should i learn any Arabic or is that not necessary.
please kill yourself
What would you do if I called Muhammad a faggot to your face?
>>76052537
To convert to Islam is more mental preparation. If (and only if) you accept that Allah (SWT) is the one and only God, and that Muhammad (SWT) is his messenger on earth, you simply need to state it (in Arabic) and then you are a Muslim.
If you're serious about converting, the best advice is to go to your local mosque and talk with someone there.
You could definitely go ahead and read the Qur'an yourself today, but there is very little chance of it making much sense to you, even in translation. The reason is that the context and interpretation is very important (for example, you need to know at least a little about the history of the time it was revealed, and much refers to the Pentateuch and Gospels. What a mosque will offer you is Qur'an reading classes, which will also provide some understanding of the Arabic.
While you're at home there are Christians in the middle east dying because of Islam. My family was one of them. Go fuck yourself. Stop being a sheep, awaken already. Mohammed would've never accepted your race.
>>76053034
*SAW
>>76053074
>Mohammed would've never accepted your race.
Also 49:10
Posting in a Roast Pig thread
>>76051565
Why is Muhammad so revered when Jesus is as great or greater in some aspects? I understand that Jesus was only a prophet for the Israelites, but wouldn't his message of peace be more pure than the way of the sword?
>>76053220
Without reading his book which he stole many versus from the Bible and Torah. Ask yourself, would he accept you? Would Arab's today in Saudi Arabia accept you? They didn't even know what an Asian was.
>>76051565
Now its time for the marxist merchants to say islam is a religion if peace while zionist merchants call them barbaric, pretending to be against each other while following the same agenda: the complete destruction of the West and the rise of Israel as the most powerful country on the planet.
>>76051565
stay in your respective countries and I couldn't care less what you believe.
>>76053354
Are your questions sincere, or were you just building up to an ironic Matthew 10:34 reference?
Regardless, your question is a silly one. On what basis do you presume Muslims reject Jesus? We do not. Jesus is a revered prophet in Islam, and the Gospels have a place in Islam.
It is not Islam that rejects Jesus, but Christians that reject Muhammad (SAW).
Therefore the question works much better in reverse: Why do Christians reject the most recent and final prophet of our Lord to the Earth (Muhammad SAW)? And on what basis do they do so?
The only explanation I can think of is that Christians do not believe in revelation or prophecy any more.
>>76052838
/thread
>>76052263
>All opinions I don't like will be hidden.
Muslims truely are the most childish motherfuckers in the world. Can't even take the bantz.
>>76053762
No, you follow a fucking conman who's the equivalent of a middle eastern Joseph Smith.
>>76053034
thanks, and sorry for the misspelling.
>>76053074
what about the Christians dying because Judaism? never hear much about those do we.
I'm no expert so feel free to correct me, but before the creation of Israel and regular destabilization of the middle east, Christians were considered "people of the book" and in most cases treated well aside from a tax or two (not saying that's not significant).
>>76053451
You're conflating Islam with Arab traditions and culture, many of which persist despite Islam (which is against such race-based nonsense).
Is it sensible to blame Islam for the xenophobia you find in Muslim Arabs, Christian Arabs, Arab Jews, Shia Arabs etc. etc.
What is the appropriate punishment for an infidel calling Muhammad a faggot and drawing a picture of him eating pork while fucking a goat?
>>76051565
Serious question: What would you do if your pedophile prophet come's back and ask for your son's asshole so he can rape him? you can't say no right?.
Reminder: Mudslimes worship a goat fucking pedophile
PART I
Trees- It is narrated on the authority of ‘Abdullah that the Messenger of Allah ordered the date-palms of Banu Nadir to be burnt and cut. These palms were at Buwaira. Qutaibah and Ibn Rumh in their versions of the tradition have added: So Allah, the Glorious and Exalted, revealed the verse:“ Whatever trees you have cut down or left standing on their trunks, it was with the permission of Allah so that He may disgrace the evil-doers"
Children- Muhammed order his men to make the boys pull down their pants, if they had any pubic hair they were slaughtered. The rest enslaved. He also was totally cool with kids being killed as collateral damage. It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: “They are from them.” (Sahih Muslim 4322, see also Bukhari 52:256)
Elderly- Mohammed ordered an old woman ripped in half and then fucked her daughter. She was a very old woman, wife of Malik. Her daughter [and another] were also taken. Zayd ordered Qays to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly by putting a rope between her legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two). (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 980) I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: “Give me that girl.” (Sahih Muslim 4345)
He also had Abu Afak, who was supposedly over 100 executed for a satirical poem mocking Islam. The apostle said, “Who will deal with this rascal for me?” Whereupon [a follower] went forth and killed him. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 995).
>>76053220
>And We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided for them of the good things and preferred them over much of what We have created, with [definite] preference.
>has nothing to do with your pic
>doesn't mean shit anyway
Damn book was wrote by an aussie
>>76051565
I'm a Christian.
And I've seen these threads often.
Would you agree with the following from the New Testament of the Holy Bible?
Also pic is my church.
1 Chronicles 29:11Modern English Version (MEV)
Yours, O Lord, is the greatness, and the power,
and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty,
for everything in the heavens and the earth is Yours.
Yours is the kingdom, O Lord,
and You exalt Yourself as head above all.
Also, peace to you.
>>76051565
>oldest religion
christianity, judaism, greek and roman paganism, and others would like to have a word with you
>>76054058
It's not because of their own will. Muslims HAD to colerate Christians because Christians owned the majority of the muslim world. If they started a Jihad back then, they'd be slaughtered. The reason why Islam is so violent now is because we've left them (muslims) to their own devices. Only Sufis and Ibadhi are tolerant anymore.
>>76054316
PART II
He also ordered the death of another elderly person, The Prophet recited Suratan-Najm (103) at Mecca and prostrated while reciting it and those who were with him did the same except an old man who took a handful of small stones or earth and lifted it to his forehead and said, “This is sufficient for me.” Later on, I saw him killed as a non-believer. (Bukhari 19:173)
Churches temples- Couldn’t find anything, for either one. Just people saying Islam says to protect them, but that’s not actual doctrine and carries no more significance than people saying they should destroy them.
buildings- Same as last.
People who surrendered- Mohammed ordered the execution of hundreds of Jews who surrendered to him. Abu Dawud; see Ibn Ishaq, p. 466
Salamu-alaikum bro
Muhammad Ali passed away today, thoughts?
Also, are you getting prepared for Ramadan?
>>76054316
>>76054361
PART III
Women- Muhammad directly ordered the death of several women in his time. After he captured Mecca in 630, he demanded that two female slaves be put to death along with their master, merely because they had mocked Muhammad in song (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 819, Abu Dawud 2678).The brutal death of Umm Qirfa also refutes this myth. So do the women who were killed in battle (Bukhari 52:257), when Muhammad’s men attacked a town or tribe – although his preference was that women be captured for sexual servitude rather than killed.One account not only speaks of the killing of a defenseless woman, but also refutes the broader misconception that Islam is against attacking others for reasons other than self-defense:We went with the apostle on the raid of Dhatu’l-Riqa of Nakhl and a man killed the wife of one of the polytheists. When the apostle was on his way back, her husband, who had been away, returned and heard the news of her death. He swore that he would not rest until he had taken vengeance. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 665)Muhammad ordered a Jewish woman put to death for literally losing her mind while the male members of her family were being beheaded (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 691). This one could go on for awhile, but I think that’s sufficient.
Sick- Again, no info.
Priests- Nothing specific to them but it most certainly says to kill all infidels. Priests and monks fall into that category. Quran (2:191-193) Quran (3:56) Quran (3:151)
Don’t disfigure the dead- no info.
Animals- don’t give enough of a shit to look up.
Treat prisoners well- Already have verses permitting and ordering the execution, enslavement, and rape of prisoners.
Don’t enforce Islam- Already have verses promoting attacking non Muslims and forcing them to either convert or die. If you leave the faith you are executed, Qur'an (4:89) and those who live in Islamic nations but aren’t Muslims (who aren’t also executed) are second class citizens Qur'an (9:29).
>>76053451
>stole
you do know these books were independently created from many of the same source documents right? that is like saying I copied someones notes cause we read from the same textbook.
>>76053762
They are sincere. I'm just intrigued because most I hardly ever hear Isa or the other prophets, but mostly Muhammad or Allah. Am I just hearing the layman speak like some random Christian would only know Jesus and that's all?
We rejected Muhammad due to his religious claims and how they contradicted previous councils. He was also influenced by Arianism and Nestorianism, both of which are heresies and bring one from the True Church.
>>76054334
No, they seriously think that they own all of the previous prophets and that they're the culmination of all Abrahamic faiths. They think from Abraham to Jesus, everyone was a proto-muslim.
>>76051565
>mulslims in Japan
There is like three people.
Maybe four.
>>76051565
>Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
You must be living in the EU.
>>76053336
>>76053377
>>76053462
>>76053601
Please stop posting them. You are torturing me dear Anzac.
I miss bacon, you can't find it here. I literally munch on that stuff whenever I'm outside the country.
fucking turks and weird weird ass interpretation of islam, alcohol is everywhere yet I can't buy bacon.
>>76054457
>Japanese
>Following a religion as absurd as Islam.
I asume the whole "suicide to meet your ancestors" Shinto thing effectively ruined religion for the Japanese and turned them away from it. I can't imagine even a fragment taking any non-Buddhist-Shinto religion seriously.
>>76051565
Iranian dates are the best t b h famaladingdong
>>76054324
You have a beautiful Church, friend.
Any believing Christian (one who knows, and follows his texts and traditions) is a friend to Islam, and will find friends among true Muslims.
The sad truth is that many people claim to be of your faith (and, indeed, my own), yet have a casual and unrepentant attitude to sin and no respect for tradition.
True believers should stand together.
>>76054596
Didn't even Muhammad drink Date Wine? I never understood why dietary law is even that important to muslims. It just seems like Muhammad incorporated it into his doctrine because the Jews did it and he wanted to look official.
>>76051565
What do I do when captured or stopped by terrorists on the road? Do I admit I'm Christian or say atheist? I imagine it's impossible for me to fake Islam. Can I feign an interest to convert and they might let me leave? I do conversation as a botanist in remote locations and I'm curious as I have some trips in Muslim majority countries coming up.
>>76054701
People here don't take religion seriously. Even Buddhist/Shinto.
In history, religion was NEVER mandatory.
Unlike in Europe where if you weren't christian you would have been killed during the dark age which lasted 1000 years, here people don't care.
Stay in your own country. It's no secret that your brutal religion preaches world domination through force. Everytime a concentration of you pedophile - worshipping fucks tries to form a mirror image of their own shit hole country in a foreign one, we come one step closer, as a united world, to eradicating the scourge of Islam.
>>76051565
Explain how Islam's stance on dogs is reasonable.
>>76054353
>Christians owned the majority of the muslim world.
>1299
i'm not saying Muslims were always kind, on the contrary, they were basically constantly invading Europe. All i am saying is Christians and Muslims can theoretically coexist without international organizations and overreaching governments inciting conflict, at least to the degree of Mexicans in america.
that is to say it is far from perfect and not preferable, but not nearly as bad.
>>76054911
>I'm Christian or say atheist
Smarter would be to say you are a Christian I think. They'll just tax you.
>>76054728
YUSUF TAIYOOB
In all honesty , fuck mudslimes.
>>76054937
The Japanese persecuted and killed plenty of Christians during the Tokugawa era.
>>76055032
:^(
>>76051565
How does it feel that your god is a pedophile?
Sword and the Crescent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk_VwZxN9bA
>Along with detailing new groundbreaking research on the uninspired origins of Koran stories and the corruption of early Koran manuscripts, this film also covers: offensive warfare, Muhammad's immorality and ruthlessness, errors of the Koran, Muhammad and the Bible, absurd Islamic teachings, and Muhammad's demon possession.
Ramadan Mubarak, from an Australian Muslim to you my brother. I wish blessings upon you whilst you observe this holy month.
>>76055027
I am afraid I'll be held for ransom or worse beheaded. I imagine if I feign sympathy with their cause they would leave me alone
>>76055059
For being commie kikes
>>76055008
British Palestine was an okay example of that. You can't deny though that once you give muslims an inch, they'll try to take a mile. I think the chance of any Abrahamic faith coexisting in the modern world is impossible now. Maybe back in the 30's, but no longer.
>>76055203
>Communist kikes
>in 17th century japan
OK.
>>76051565
I am christian and I love you bro.
Dont get attention to jewcucked islamophobic monkeys. 90% of /pol.
>>76055196
Just say that you believe that Jesus is the Messiah and that there is no other deity than God.
>>76051565
Arab muslims > Asian muslims > Black muslims
So youre not the bottom of the pile OP
>>76055275
Thanks bruv. Peace upon you as well.
Know Your Enemy (Part 27 - Allah)
http://youtu.be/x_s5By7s8z0
Know Your Enemy (Part 28 - The Kabah)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fodMC9oTy7Q
Proving Allah is the goddess Isis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VPO47DeoPQ
She says Prophet Muhammad is in Hell (Hell Testimony) النبي محمد في الجحيم
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiL4ClvshN0
Walid Shoebat Exposes Lies of Islam Allah is not God but Satan the deciever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhp7Qaj5NSU
>>76051565
>>76055267
They, just like the Ikko, threated the states stability. Look at the Shimabara Rebellion. Look at the Tokugawa's nativist and isolation philosphies.
>>76054324
By the way, I've never come across the MEV. How does it compare to the KJV/NIV? Is it an entirely new translation?
I first familiarised myself with the KJV (studying the KJV helped to raise my English level immensely) but for quick reference I like to use the NIV because it's written in a more modern style.
>>76054373
Feels sad man.
Religion aside, he is one of the top 10 names in all of sport, easily. His influence is probably greater than any sports fighter in history.
>>76054428
I suspect implicit in that explanation is that you also rejected the revelations because you believed them to not be true.
Muslims tend not to speak much of the prior prophets for similar reasons to how Christians tend to refer more to Jesus: first because the primary texts exist and therefore there is more known about them. Second, and crucially, they brought something new to the table.
For Christians, Jesus brought a new covenant, which replaced or altered much of Mosaic law.
For Muslims, Mohammad (SAW) really corrected the misunderstandings, lies and corruptions that had wormed their way into the tradition after thousands of years of local prophecies being used by humans to advance human agendas.
>>76055275
Belosweden, YES!
>>76055275
Islam is fucked up goyim version of Judaism.
Seems like Lukashenko brainwashes your conscience too.
>>76054804
exactly, Paul et al removed a lot of the judaic laws to make the religion more appealing to gentiles, while mohammad adopted a lot of them to gain legitimacy
>>76055432
>Proclaimes himself political leader of Mecca.
>Totally didn't start his own religion for self gain.
Kek, okay.
Mohammed owned and raped slaved and commanded his companions to rape their slaves.
He was a gold digger who married and older rcih woman.
He fucked a little girl.
He made up a religion by mashing up Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastism a d his tribal customs.
He believed in black magic and that drinking camel piss would cure illnesses.
He was a stinking, backwards piece of shit.
Why do you all deny that its written that you must lie to all non believers?
>>76054804
While it is clearly haram (forbidden) to be drunk (intoxicated) or to do drugs, scholars disagree about consuming alcohol.
Alcohol is clearly not halal, and the Qur'an advises against it but does not go far enough to say it is haram.
At best, alcohol is makruh (strongly advised against) in Islam when consumed in small quantities, and completely tolerated/allowed as a medicine
>>76051565
I hope making muzzies eat their own index fingers becomes a thing on the day of the rope.
>>76051565
My 2nd Ramadan alhamdulillah.
I'm easing into the fasting this year. I've also been trying to learn some new dishes which will be nice Ia. How's your Ramadan looking anon?
>>76055216
yah, you are probably right. the goal at this point ideally would be to:
1. stop breading new generations of Muslims to hate the west.
2.don't let the ones that hate us into our countries.
3.hope our grandchildren don't make the same mistakes.
4. fly away on our magic unicorns that are more likely to exist than this.
>>76051565
another question, i know you probably can;t speak for america, but how are converts typically viewed where you are from and how common are they? what percentage take it seriously?
>>76051565
I spoke to a Muslim yesterday. He true his best to discredit Jews and Christians and promote Muslims. Told me Islam is the answer that fulfills the prophecies of god. Told me that in the original Hebrew bible, Mohammad was written about as the last prophet. Said Christians and Jews are degenerate heathens and that Christians were supposed to not eat pork or drink alcohol. Told me Muslims were peaceful and spread around the world because people believed in Islam. Said that Europe needs Islam. Tried to sell me on the brotherhood it provides as all that.
Every single negative thing I said about Muslims he would never acknowledge or would say Christians and Jews did worse. Bunch of fucking shit. I can see how westerners that are weak willed an disillusioned with modern day society could be convinced to be Muslim.
According to Middle East scholar E.M.Wherry, whose translation of the Koran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Baal, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran, Osnabrück: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973, p. 36).
"In ancient Arabia, the sun-god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars as Alfred Guilluame, the Moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah (op.cit., Islam, p. 7)
"The name Allah was used as the personal name of the Moon god, in addition to the other titles that could be given to him.
"Allah, the Moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called 'the daughters of Allah'. These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
"The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as "high" gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities" (Robert Morey, The Islamic Invasion, Eugene, Oregon, Harvest House Publishers, 1977, pp.50-51).
>>76051565
I'm mulling converting myself.
I actually have not had any alcohol since march. Think I am finally 'over it'. So why not turn over a new leaf in life when I am on a roll, eh?
>>76054767
>Any believing Christian (one who knows, and follows his texts and traditions) is a friend to Islam, and will find friends among true Muslims.
You are not supposed to take Christians as ylur friend you fucking murtadh.
Your bidah is sickening.
>>76055687
So why do so many muslim countries have a state enforced prohibition?
Christians are taught by Christ that they will be persecuted, mocked, and tormented for their beliefs, and that they must endure it and have faith.
So no, they won't get offended by an image of Christ being defiled, they know that is the work of Lucifer. An image of Jesus is not Jesus, just an image, it is not an idol, we do not make idols to worship. .
Muslims on the other hand are taught by Lucifer to direct their prayers to an inanimate object, a rock, and to suffer no insult to their beliefs and act violently to any who dare mock them, to in fact maim and murder anyone who would insult their "God". Lucifer even deceived them of his own true existence, claiming the "Dajjal" was never an Angel, taking away a very important teaching, that Satan may appear as an Angel of Light. Then Lucifer taught them not to create art representing his prophet because he feared people would be so simple as to worship the images, since he taught them to pray to a rock to worship him.
If you think Islam worships the same God as Christianity, you're gravely mistaken.
Islam is perhaps Lucifer's greatest accomplishment, followed by Atheism, for if they won't worship him, they can disbelieve everything instead and still take from God his flock.
>>76055889
Someone obviously never read the Quran
>>76055877
Why would you replace one drug with another?
> Muhammad (SAW)
Seen plenty of those in videos...never want to see a Muhammad saw again, looks very painful.
>>76055687
Drinking alcohol is unambiguously haram. Rubbing alcohol or using it as a disinfectant is another matter.
Muslims want to destroy Western civilization and its values. The freedom to question authority and create better systems of thought was a core tenet of what allowed the West to become the most prosperous civilization in all of human history.
The Muslims themselves flirted briefly with these ideas. When they sacked the Library of Alexandria, they discovered Greek thought. They even called Aristotle "First Teacher," and from the principles of reason and logic they began to actually forge a proper civilization.
Their culture debated the role of reason and faith, and this came to a head with the writings of Al-Ghazali. He explicitly rejected reason in favor of faith, granting all authority to Allah and his spokesmen on earth, and it resonated profoundly throughout Muslim culture. They went into almost immediate decline and never recovered.
Now look at them. They murder people who question Islam. They overrun the streets of modern cities and demand that their hosts succumb to Shariah Law.
What is wrong with Muslims? They are barbaric totalitarians that would destroy everything good the human race has done.
>>76055154
Ramadan Mubarak, brother.
>>76055275
Peace and love to you, Eastern Orthodox friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP4FCRhDxis
>>76056025
Kek.
Christians are taught by Christ that they will be persecuted, mocked, and tormented for their beliefs, and that they must endure it and have faith.
So no, they won't get offended by an image of Christ being defiled, they know that is the work of Lucifer. An image of Jesus is not Jesus, just an image, it is not an idol, we do not make idols to worship. .
Muslims on the other hand are taught by Lucifer to direct their prayers to an inanimate object, a rock, and to suffer no insult to their beliefs and act violently to any who dare mock them, to in fact maim and murder anyone who would insult their "God". Lucifer even deceived them of his own true existence, claiming the "Dajjal" was never an Angel, taking away a very important teaching, that Satan may appear as an Angel of Light. Then Lucifer taught them not to create art representing his prophet because he feared people would be so simple as to worship the images, since he taught them to pray to a rock to worship him.
If you think Islam worships the same God as Christianity, you're gravely mistaken.
Islam is perhaps Lucifer's greatest accomplishment, followed by Atheism, for if they won't worship him, they can disbelieve everything instead and still take from God his flock.
>>76053220
>And so on.
Wow, such an intellectual. Sounds like a common lazy street bum and so on.
>Consider the Koran, for example; this wretched book was sufficient to start a world-religion, to satisfy the metaphysical need of countless millions for twelve hundred years, to become the basis of their morality and of a remarkable contempt for death, and also to inspire them to bloody wars and the most extensive conquests. In this book we find the saddest and poorest form of theism. Much may be lost in translation, but I have not been able to discover in it one single idea of value.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_Notable_Non-Muslims#Arthur_Schopenhauer
>>76051565
>oldest religion, Islam.
lul
>>76051565
will any of you ragheads blow up during ramadamadingdong?
>>76056052
Sorry to break it to you but it isn't all that different from you Mexicans being unable to stop being ruled by corruption and even fucking worshipping a drug dealer who kills people mercilessly, el chapo
The problem is that race is simply not only skin deep
>>76054989
WHY the fuck are dogs haram?
>>76056036
>We were with the messenger of Allah, PBUH and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: "Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?" He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace Be Upon him) asked, “Have you covered it with a twig in a transverse manner” He (Gaber) said, “Yes” and he (Muhammad) drank.
Hadith #3753
>He was with the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him on the night of the jinn when he asked him if he had water. He answered that he had wine in a pot. Mohammed said: Pour me some to do ablution and he did. [The] Prophet peace be upon him [said]: "O Abdullah bin Masood it is a drink and a purifier."
Hadith #3594
Islam is the religion of Satan.
Lets look at what Islam believes, even though they claim to believe the same God as Catholics.
>extreme oppression
>murder is justified
>killing yourself is justifiable if you kill enemies
>lying is permitted and even a tenant
>pedophilia is tolerable
>prophet was a pedophilic warlord
>the world must be muslim and those who dont comply must die
>death for leaving islam
>literally want to bring about the apocalypse
>women are property
>there is no such thing as peace
>peaceful people are on a lower tier than people who murder in the name of islam
Islam is the exact opposite of Christianity. Who is the exact opposite of God? Satan. Islam is a Satanic Death Cult that is trying to destroy the world and drag more souls down to hell. It really seems like the 2nd coming is at hand. Repent my brothers.
im also going to convert to islam, its the future
>>76056372
>>76056114
>>76056110
how do mexibros know this much about Islam
>>76056207
You have other concerns, kid. You may have noticed that two very large secular nations are a mistake away from throwing down and blow torching the entire planet. And when that happens... I guess we'll both see which of us is correct.
>>76056385
In a Catholic country like Poland, good luck with that Pawlowski.
>>76056467
Regardless of what the current puppet pope says, Catholicism is and always will be the natural enemy of Islam.
>>76056372
>Who is the exact opposite of God?
God does not have opposites you silly beaner infidel. Nothing can equal God.
"The name Kubaba or cube, whose sky body was worshipped as a metiorite and who as later called Cybele, comes from Kaaba of Mecca; she was an image of the goddes who was worshipped in Anatolia and Arabia until the rise of Islam"
-Melusine the Serpent Goddess in A. S. Byatt's Possession and in Mythology
https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=JjoBs_u5rigC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=The+name+Kubaba+or+cube,+whose+sky+body+was+worshipped&source=bl&ots=SknouVYDHu&sig=t8lNN_qu8U-YULYqdaQfo7aV1oQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIrKmKuJfLAhUCQyYKHQyoACMQ6AEIGzAA#v=onepage&q=The%20name%20Kubaba%20or%20cube%2C%20whose%20sky%20body%20was%20worshipped&f=false
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-meteorite-worship.htm
The Kaaba At Mecca - IS - The North Pole Of Saturn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwU6bacB7SE
>>76051565
>fasting growing
No, Christianity is by net growth and raw numbers
>oldest religion
Not even close. I know what you're going to say, but historically and scientifically, Islam wasn't invented until the 7th century.
>>76056183
I got into an argument with that Muslim guy because he said Islam is the oldest religion. I told him historical facts and he said that doesn't matter because Islam always existed and that every prophet including Jesus was Muslim. Said Jesus was an ordinary man because all people are the sons of god.
Getting into that argument made me realize that Christianity, judiasm, and Islam are all the same Semitic religion that we should discard.
>>76051565
Kamu Anjing
>>76051565
only question is how in the fuck do you guys go that long without a drink, fuck me...
Remember brother,
Allah swt has already decided who will and who will not have their minds changed. Our job is to realize when we're hitting a brick wall, and to leave for greener pastures when said thing happens. /pol/ is the epitome of fallacy, so they're not going to be convinced anytime soon ia. Don't surround yourself with the sin here. You've tried, that's all that matters.
>>76056546
He was talkig about character, not might. You fucking muslims have no reading comprehension. I guess that's why you love the koran so much.
>>76056546
That's why it's an opposite you dumb fuck
>>76053762
Okay, if you accept the historical Jesus, then say Jesus is God.
What you're doing is a strawman. If I said "I believe in Muhammad, but in reality he is a 3 eyed green alien" would you say we believe in the same Muhammad? Nope. So don't be dishonest. Muhammad invented a character named "Isa" for his religion and copied elements of Jesus' life (also adding pagan and apocryphal elements in his fiction)
>>76056658
Human can survive three days without water.
>>76051565
>oldest religion, Islam.
that isn't Animism, anon
also,
>practising a religion that actively promotes genital mutilation
I swear; Leviathan has such a wicked sense of humour, especially in choosing a do-you-even-meditate tribal chieftain as his messenger.
>>76056302
from Sahih Bukhari
>7.488:
>Narrated Anas bin Malik: I was serving Abu 'Ubaida, Abu Talha
and Ubai bin Ka`b with a drink prepared from ripe and unripe
dates. Then somebody came to them and said, "Alcoholic drinks
have been prohibited." (On hearing that) Abu Talha said, "Get
up. O Anas, and pour (throw) it out! So I poured (threw) it
out.
>7.489:
>Narrated Anas: While I was waiting on my uncles and serving them with (wine
prepared from) dates−−−−and I was the youngest of them−−−−it
was said, "Alcoholic drinks have been prohibited." So they
said (to me), "Throw it away." So I threw it away.
>7.491:
>Narrated `Aisha:
Allah's Apostle was asked about Al−Bit. He said, "All drinks
that intoxicate are unlawful (to drink.)
It wasn't always haram, in fact I remember reading somewhere that many of the brothers that died at Uhud were known drinkers, but it was made so.
>>76051565
Don't you dare start blowing shit up members of Islam.
That will be another downfall for you
Fuck Islam. The sons of Sobieski will keep you pig fuckers out of this part of Europe
>>76051565
The worlds oldest religion that came after Judaism who's prophet was around 1400 years ago? seriously re read what you've posted.
Do muslims intentionally do this shit or are they just that far gone from the brainwashing?
my guess is the latter. Most people confront brainwashing at the end of primary school then confront whatever they used in it's stead in highschool. Muslims live an existence of being in denial and literally believe that you can force co existence.
>>76056674
The only brick wall you're hitting is your negative growth in places such Africa.
https://www.academia.edu/16338087/Believers_in_Christ_from_a_Muslim_Background_A_Global_Census
Jesus "refugees welcome" Christ
What was Mohammed's surname?
>>76051565
Go fuck yourself with an adjustable plier
>>76055804
The hardest part for me is getting to Eid al-Fitr without putting on too much weight. Usually I put on 1-1.5 kg due to the higher calorie intake, mainly from breaking fast with groups of friends so often.
This year I will try to get there without putting on weight. I could stand to lose a few KG anyway.
Strength of spirit and mind, friend. I hope you succeed.
>>76055917
Because drinking alcohol is makruh (the worst a thing can be, without being forbidden) and being drunk is haram (forbidden).
Drunkenness is a serious problem in your country. Literally billions of dollars is spent on health services for the intoxicated in America.
>>76055877
That's great to hear.
Do you mind sharing a bit of your story, Anon?
Other people might benefit.
>>76056036
>unambiguously haram
Except it's not unambiguous.
For example:
http://quran.com/2/219
I do not doubt that some ijtihad considers alcohol to be haram, however "unambiguously" alcohol you can only say alcohol is makruh, and that its most obvious purpose is haram.
>>76056961
Moohamed (pigs be upon him) ali
>>76057041
Kill yourself alone and in sillence
>>76057041
Being drunk is not haram
The quran clearly says that you should not be drunk while praying implying you can drink
Also in some translations it says that therw will be wine in heaven
Others say Milk
Dumb moslems
>>76057041
I also agree ethanol is a plague, not only does it cause destruction of the brain and drunk encumber your neurological responses, but it's one the hugest denials all other drug addicts admit the problem. But we have alcohol to use against the shit economic treatment of the poor, so can't win really, plus ugly chicks need sex
Islam exposed p1 (Kaaba=Saturn)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llnPgLsI_hU
>Muslims are worshippers of a blacksone idol the image of goddess allah.False prophet Mohammad has set up a stone idol connected to kaba in Mecca.None of the Hebrew prophets of the Holy bible worshipped stones As it is written,Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image,neither rear you up a standing image,neither shall ye set up any image of STONE in your land,to bow down unto it;for Iam the lord your God.Leviticus chapter 26 verse 1.One of the five pillars of the cult of Islam is to make Hajj to Mecca and proform TAWAF.The Hajj begans with Tawaf.Tawaf is kissing and caressing the black stone idol attached to kaba and thereafter making counter clockwise circles around kaba black box that has blackstone idol attacted too it .This is Sunnah to Muslims because the false prophet Muhammad kissed the blackstone idol,and holding the stone with such esteem respect and admiration attached it to eastside kaba wall.Muhammad idolized the blackstone,meaning he regarded it with adoration or devotion,On the grounds Mohammed set the stone in so-called Islamic Holy place.
So Ramadan is basically about learning Islam and a month long heavy diet???
Maybe the western world should have a diet month?? Especially fat burgers that drive around on mobility scooters all day
>>76053034
kek islam is for faggots and the vast majority of the human race would choose to do away with you if given the option. The only thing I can appreciate is is how cunning and arrogant muslims are thinking they can force co existence and migrate to already over populated western nations, treat the host nation like dirt and not go so far as to try to conceal said behaviour. It's like they don't give a fuck to the point of people waking up on a daily basis and public opinion being swayed to put down all muslims with lethal injections, children included.
>>76057323
How about you shut the fuck up and let me enjoy my 3 am snack.
>>76055876
please stop comparing pre-Niceaen paganism to Islam, mexibro.
One of them actually has value in a modern sane society (hint: it isn't slummunism)
>>76056510
which nations are you talking about?
>>76057498
The funny thing is that following Christian rule in African, the decline and rise of Christianity is astounding, from about 9 million to 380 million in a 50 year period. Also, many refugees in Europe are converting to Christianity. It seems, when given a choice, muslim usually convert to Christianity.
>>76057668
decline of Islam*
>>76057498
>kek islam is for faggots and the vast majority of the human race would choose to do away with you if given the option.
They already have a option. Just glass every muslim country. What are you waiting for?
>>76057498
Literally muslims only have themselves to blame for me feeling this way. So to all the muslims here, just keep doing what you've been doing all this time. Keep up the good work.
>>76057041
>Do you mind sharing a bit of your story, Anon?
I have come to realize there is a great hole that we Westerners try and fill with what amounts to plastic garbage, hard drugs and the pursuit of wealth and status. So we can buy plastic garbage and more drugs. Which adds social status. That the whole of Western society is about the 'exclusive' and not the 'inclusive'. The idea of the Alpha to us is the man who can book a reservation at a ridiculously hard to get into restaurant for example. If 'anybody can have it', the item has no worth. More perversely if a man has something and you take it from him, the item has even more worth because it was won through conquest. And conquest is valued.
Thus an endless cycle of competition is created that will inevitably escalate into acts of violence. And this as you read this is happening on a global scale.
They will never fill that hole no matter how hard they try. I'm not going down with that ship. I will not.
>>76058022
>for me feeling this way
So now it isn't the majority? It's only you?
>>76055889
You are not supposed to take Christians as ylur friend you fucking murtadh.
Only when islam is weak, when islam is strong they should destroy them
>>76058081
So get the fuck out then. If you hate the west so much, go to one of these lovely islamic countries and don't come back. Go, shoo. Fuck off.
>>76058114
Please stop posting. You have absolutely no reading comprehension.
>>76055951
satan is in a muslim nose btw
>>76058277
But you do? You know exactly everything to the point to the absolute? Like God?
>>76058277
>So get the fuck out then. If you hate the west so much, go to one of these lovely islamic countries and don't come back. Go, shoo. Fuck off.
Isn't it funny you can almost hear the unease in this guy's voice? What's a matter, anon? Looking around your room and realizing you are more of a magpie than a man?
>>76054106
>Is it sensible to blame Islam for the xenophobia you find in Muslim Arabs, Christian Arabs, Arab Jews, Shia Arabs etc. etc.
Yes, they are the reflect of 1400 years of Islam.
Same as europe and peaceful christianity.
>>76058442
No. I don't want you to blow up the next flight I'm on you fucking cockroach. Of course I'm scared of Islam. It is THE greatest evil in the world. Fucking kill yourself.
>>76058114
Not just me, the point I was making is if you want islam to fall and muslims to be put in extermination centres all one has to do co exist with muslims and watch them expose themselves for the animal they are.
>>76058081
So it's materialism that's getting you down? That's not a problem exclusive to the west I'm afraid.
That's more a part of human nature than anything.
>>76058524
You said that majority wants to exterminate muslims. Majority obviously can do that. So what is the majority waiting for?
>>76051565
I'm preparing delicious pork sammiches to eat in front of my muslim coworkers. The sounds of rumbling stomachs appeases me.
>>76058517
The greatest evil in the world is nothing. Because if you put a man in nothing his mind and spirit are torn apart and you end up with a monster.
>>76058687
What the fuck does that even mean? So you're saying you need sky daddy or else you'll go crazy? You sound like the ill one, the monster, here.
>>76058818
Look at you again. Coming off like a know-it-all.
>>76059199
>Ad hominem.
Did I strike a nerve with that last one?
>>76052263
If allah loved ya all so much, why did you all get conqures by western powers and only got released out of mercy and humanitism
>>76052537
Usa no, dont get brainwashed
>>76059273
>Did I strike
What do you think?
>>76054393
Based Kristjan
>>76051565
>fastest growing
sure, no birth control and death for apostasy certainly helps in that regard
>and oldest religion
Now you're just being downright retarded.
>>76059351
Everyone knows Trump is a secret muslim. He is just waiting to scourge degenerate europe and it's low-born ISIS infiltrators and create the true caliphate.
>>76059428
Sorry I hurt your Muhammadan feefees. :3
>>76059455
>https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/islam-fastest-shrinking-religion-in-the-world
>https://www.academia.edu/16338087/Believers_in_Christ_from_a_Muslim_Background_A_Global_Census
That's the funny thing. There is an obvious growth in Christianity in Muslim countries, most converts to Islam leave very quickly, the actually number of muslims in the world is hard to know since most former muslims aren't open about their lack of belief, and yet everywhere you look, people keep claiming Islam is growing. I never understood it.
>>76059486
>has a jewish converted daughter and jewish grandchild
>muslim
Fucking low tier bait or just burger intelligence
>>76059827
>or just kebab intelligence.
FTFY
>>76059486
>everyone
>posted by a faggot who probably knows nobody
The Masonic Roots Of Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxOKiOef5s
>>76059904
I want you on our side of the wall Cathlicbro. :3
Is thread kill?
>>76053762
Jesus never committed a sin
Muhammad fucked children and killed people
>>76051565
KILLLL YOURSELFFFFFFF
>>76053762
Jesus says He alone is the truth
>>76053762
Muhammad teaches hatred of Jews and Christians
>>76051565
https://youtu.be/tU1MzW-Ki_I
>>76053762
Jesus rose from the grave
Muhammed remained dead
>>76051565
Timor is for Timorese
>>76053762
Jesus was born of a virgin
Muhammad was not
Get out of German lands now, sandniggs!
>>76052263
>Christian and socially conservative.
Are you trying to trigger my air fedora, retard? make the world a better place and kys.
>>76051565
If i stop eating bacon can i marry a 9 year old?
>muslims unironically believe any sane human being could live in a society where this shit happens on daily basis
>and this shit
>and this other shit
why haven't you killed yourself yet?
you'll get free virgins if you blow yourself up, what do you have to lose?
there's literally no reason to not blow yourself up
>>76062540
trying hard, i see
what are you waiting for?
just do it
DO IT
>>76062645
Calm down and betray your allies.
Pathetic.
All u need to know https://carm.org/comparison-between-jesus-and-muhammad
>>76062693
Chechens are fighting for independence from russian boot.
>>76052263
Jesus chirst and though jewish sandniggers were delusional
>>76051565
FUCK OFF FILTHY TERRORIST MUDSLIME FILTH
>>76062686
>what are memes
I didn't expect any less from germany honestly, enjoying the cultural enrichment yet?
>>76062982
Im joking you faggot, dont cry.
But you have to admit that italy has a huge communist and union problem
>>76051565
sage
>>76063086
>communist and union problem
Sadly true, I'll leave this place in less than 5 years probably unless Italy and EU in general gets its shit together.
>>76063262
I hope in 5 years there will be a place left to go..
you need some roman discipline again, rocking the fascis
>>76052263
>It's essentially just ignorance of Islam, and an obsession with race theory which distracts these people from the truth.
>And I will filter them like always. You'd be surprised how many of the spammers are the same ID.
Typical shitskin
I love these threads because the amount of people just going "LEL FUCK ISLAM XD" is really great.
I mean, fuck Islam, but you aren't accomplishing anything by telling this guy that.
>>76063638
They are just exercising their freedom of speech. At from that point they are accomplishing a lot.
Daily reminder
Everyday Abrahamic faiths exist
The Jews are winning.
>>76065010
What is your alternative to Abrahamic faith?
>>76065077
I try for hope in humanity rather than an invisible force but global IQ is letting us down so we need to cast off anything under 100, which includes most religious people. Shame, they don't progress except Christians and this is only so we don't rise up against them it keeps society content by bending its rules to liberals.
Jesus "king of slaves" Christ
>>76065253
>hope in humanity
Humanity is limited. God is not limited. You fail. Try again.
>>76051565
you dirty muzzie shithead.
IF YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT CHRISTIANITY YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING TOWEL HEAD
YOU HALF NIGGERS WILL BURN IN THE ETERNAL HELLFIRE FOR BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE TRUE GOD
>>76051565
Why don't you stop raping people and start actually contributing something to the countries taking you in?
>>76065337
He is, to your imagination.
>>76065337
Any breach of this is blasphemy, the intelligence cap.
>>76055951
>this is what Europe wants to import
>>76053377
Where's the apple?
>>76065509
>He is, to your imagination.
That means that I'm limited,not God.
>>76065759
But he does not extend further than your imagination to the physical realm, therefor is limited like yourself.
>>76065868
So God is just imaginary to you?
>>76065759
It's representation of conscience, good is God, evil is Satan, heaven and hell are earth. Jews are making it hell.
>>76054334
>>76054445
They do for Abrahamic prophets, not multi-polytheist one.
But since they also think their religion is the only true one, they come to this conclusion.
>>76065929
It went from sabazios to Dionysus to Jesus.
Greek > Roman > Jewish.
>>76065899
Have you seen him?
When you read the books where are the images made?
I am a recent convert, Islam has treated me very well and so have my brothers at the mosque.
Have a great Ramadan inshallah!
>>76065928
>>76066079
>It's representation of conscience
Who is in control then if there is no God inside and outside of the universe?
>>76065899
Like I understand yes it's nice to manifest the representations of good and evil and label them, but they are constructs of the human mind.
>>76051565
How do you feel, knowing that Mohammed is currently in hell, being raped by pigs?
Do you think he has grown used to the feeling of porcine cock up his worn out asshole by now?
I suspect you will get a chance to find out what he has been going through soon enough. Every Muslim goes to hell, so its only a matter of time. :)
How do I convert to Islam?
>>76066140
You are, what is free will?
Also if lucifer had never said no, then there would of been no free will, as we would all still be serving this alleged God.
>>76066246
>this alleged God
This alleged God is a Creator of all there is. If Lucifer exists then we share the same Creator.
>>76051565
1) Kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammad. (Koran.33;57-61).
2) Kill all Muslims who leave Islam. (Koran.2;217/4;89/Bukhari.9;84-57).
3) Koran can't be doubted. (Koran.2;1).
4) Islam is the only acceptable religion. (Koran.3;85).
5) Muslims must fight (jihad) infidels, even if they don't want to. (Koran 3.151/8,12/2;216).
6) We the non-Muslims are pigs and apes. (Koran. 2;62-65/Koran.5;59-60/Koran.7;166).
7) Muslims cannot be friends with Infidels. (Koran.5;51).
8) We the Infidels are sworn enemies of Muslims and Islam. (Koran.4;101).
9) Infidels can be raped as sex slaves. (Koran.4;3 & 24/5;89/23;5/33;50/58;3/70;30).
10) Infidels the vilest of creatures deserving no mercy. (Koran.98;6).
11) Muslims must terrorize us (Infidels). (Koran.8;12 &59-60/ Bukhari.4;52;220).
12) Muslims must strike terror into non-Muslims hearts. (Koran.8;60).
13) Muslims are allowed to crucify and amputate us (Infidels). Koran.8;12/47;4).
14) Muslims are allowed to behead us (Infidels) (Koran.47;4).
15) Muslims are guaranteed heaven if they kill us (non-Muslims). (Koran.9;111).
16) Marrying and divorcing pre-pubescent children is OK. (Koran.65;4).
17) Wife beating is OK. (Koran.4;34).
18) Raping wives is OK. (Koran.2;223).
19) Proving rape requires 4 (four) male Muslim witnesses. (Koran.24;13).
20) Muslims must lie to us (Infidels) to strengthen and spread Islam. (Koran.3;28?16;106).
>>76051565
your prophet was a warmonger and a pedophile.
>>76066330
The singularity is your so called God, the universe is the mother or womb of all life. Amazonian tribes have no concept of your God, neither would non earth dwelling species.
How many versions of the koran r there?
>>76066245
I went to my local mosque and did my shahada. That's the first and biggest step.
>>76066348
Cow is holy!
t.hindu
>>76066428
What's that?
>>76066412
He was the beginning, and will be the end when the stars all burst and return to a single black hole - singularity.
>>76066456
Pretty much your testimony/initiation.
>>76066452
Nice rebuttal
t. Incest babby
>>76055104
Allah is not a pedophile.
>>76058081
So, frankly speaking, you´re sick of capitalism and the materialism that comes with it ?
Then becoming buddhist would rather fit your need of living a "non-materialistic" life desu
>>76066467
What kind of look is that? Pantheism?
>>76066495
It's really that easy to infiltrate you?
Guess I should become a spy.
>>76066501
Go drink your holy piss river.
>>76051565
How do i execute infidels without anyone seeing? There's this black guy next door who's a atheist and he keeps saying islam is bad. I want to get rid of him but murder is illegal - what do?
>>76066423
Only one. Many translations but only one version
>>76066348
Too bad if you spent like 2 minutes actually reading the verses/tafsir you would realize that the translations are either grossly ripped out of context or you are literally posting bullshit that doesnt exist
>>76051565
War is a terrible thing. I thank God everyday I made it out of Iraq alive. However, I do miss killing you goat fuckers.
>>76051565
If you are still here:
Why is the drawing of Mohamed forbidden?
Does the Quran state anything about the jews and Christians?
What's the difference between shiitas and sunnis? Why do they hate each other?
Ia there a difference between Indonesian muslims and Middle Eastern muslims?
>>76066532
Yeah! As a devout Muslim, I have nothing to hide. Mosques are nothing more than holy places of brotherhood and sharing under the eyes and love of Allah.
Should a muslim wife be allowed to persistently refuse to have sex with her husband?
>>76066574
Arabs are retarded and asians are pretty bro tier.
>>76066543
Nice ad hominem retardo :')
>>76066629
No.
