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>>75905022
Christian information: http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
> Christian
> in a right-wing board concerned about civilizational survival
> following a religion that makes earthly concerns pointless
> following a religion which promise renders concerns about arabs taking over Europe pointless, insofar the Jewish War God will destroy the World the same
> following a religion which prophecy is that their followers will be oppressed and destroyed before the return of the Jewish War God, making defense of such civilization either pointless or outright anti-divine
> thinking that martyrhood-obsessed early christians, self-flagellating monks, self-castrating cathars, life-denying puritans, apocalypse-obssesed zionists, Jonestown and the current Pope and Churches actually have it wrong, and christian morality actually means the opposite of everything that Jesus said or did.
> thinking that Crusaders were "real christians" even when they pillaged and destroyed christian towns, including Constantinople itself
>>75921661
What makes the Catholic church responsible for their population growth?
>>75921873
> lolz dont use condoms XD
>>75921638
Good Job OP.
Posting Templar Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsA3J_3kEA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2VSpj08ejA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZkekS8NQU
>>75921638
Daily reminder there is no scientific evidence of God, and thus, cannot be accepted into a civilized, scientifical evindence-based society.
Inb4, "mexican intellectuals".
>>75921931
>Claim to be right-wing
>Encourage contraception and abortion
>Not wanting large traditional god-fearing families.
>>75921985
> I try making a new thread
Oh boy, I forgot about the daily reminders /pol/ must be subjected to
> there is no scientific evidence of proving something outside the limitations of science
lurk harder
>>75922040
The immediate result of abortion never being legal in USA would be 50 million extra blacks in USA
White people are NOT the majority of abortions, blacks are!
Why do you assume that would be a good thing is beyond me!
>>75921985
>Scientific Evidence of God
There is scientific evidence of higher dimensions, therefore making a supreme being that exists outside of time and space itself to be theoretically possible.
>>75921931
I would say that the fault lies with the European countries who made a commitment to develop the African countries when they colonized them, but failed to develop sufficient agriculture for them.
The african continent is fertile and physically capable of supporting its population, it is just underutilized.
>>75921638
Begone with your Jewish religions
![27822_122423381124857_100000715866935_157225_8325860_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9dl26Rv.jpg "27822_122423381124857_100000715866935_157225_8325860_n[1].jpg")
I am calling upon all Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, and even Pagans to help get Islam out of Europe and Western Civilization.
Currently, in America, I will do my civic duty to help strengthen my Church. Although I live in a non-Muslim majority place, I will still do my best to strengthen Christ's influence.
Pottstown is a largely Jewish Borough, so I will do my best to convert Jews into Christians, making connections to the Torah and New Testament.
Remember, do nothing until the happening happens.
>>75922189
I would rather have 50 million more blacks, than have the burden of supporting a country that killed 50 million black babies
>>75922189
>Abortion is a good thing
Explain Poland then.
>>75922102
Unfalsifiable non-scientific ideas are useless for a technological society
Christianity is based around the absurd idea that there is a place of eternal fire where you will be thrown unless you submit to a jewish prophet. that is absurd!
Who the fuck believes that kind of bullshit
>>75922102
You done good OP.
>>75922281
I forgot to add
> inb4 da jooz
To the OP.
> its autralia
disregarded
Remember, the Jews hate Christians
They would love us if we were part of a "Jewish" religion
>>75922425
>Who the fuck believes that kind of bullshit
I wish you would be willing to discuss rationally with people instead of coming in and telling people how stupid they are.
It makes you look immature.
>>75922361
Do you people that Civilization is some sort of population race with the poointheloos and chinks?
Poles have to migrate to Britain because they can't find a job there
>>75922189
It's too bad we can't just kill all the blacks but ban abortions for whites. Damn 14th amendment.
>>75921770
>Le crusaders attacked Constantinople meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r376MkZwLI
Kill yourself also if the crusades never happened then you wouldn't be alive at all and live in central america
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMjUFBYEzqQ
>>75922548
The only immature people here are those that believe that because Jews said there is a scary place of eternal fire where you go unless you interpret a bizarre book filled with insane anti-advice, that means that place is real
Why are you so scared of falling into a fiery place that does not even exist?
>>75921770
Our civilisation is based on Christianity. You're part of the problem.
>>75922040
A God that takes sides in wars, promotes the murder of innocents, abuse of women, the abolition of free will and the inmorality of its time does not deserve my attention or respect.
Well, good thing there is no evidence of him existing.
>>75922102
That's right.
You and the rest of the christian community believe (aka. Are convinced of ) that there is a God even if said being should exist in a higher plane based on an contradictory book that has similarities with other belief-based books made well before it.
Also, you were tought to believe in God, why is a being all powerful, omnipotent and all knowing blocked by cultural barriers?
Not so sure now, are you?
>>75922238
Theorically possible?
Even if there is still no evidence of said being, there isn't evidence of that entidy being the one expressed in the bible.
>>75922361
>Good and evil exist.
Kek
>>75922425
>>75922548
What EL INFIEL DE PANAMÁ has to do is called Mental Gymnastics
>>75922667
they did attack Constantinople
>>75922571
>Poles have to migrate to Britain because they can't find a job there
That has nothing to do with the fact that they have stronger National Spirit and a love of their country than probably anyone in Europe.
Christians are fighting against ideology, not against race.
Your ideology would encourage Poland to abort their babies, and be subject to feminist bullshit.
Vid related is what Poland is like as long as it's Catholic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
>>75922744
> Our Civilization is based on a promise that a Jewish War God will come and destroy the world
That is absurd
Western Law is Roman, and Western Philosophy is Greek in origin
The only jewish part of western world is religion, and that is a source of endless problem and jewish control
>>75921638
Daily reminder: pol/ is a Christian board brothers... and sisters (you never know).
I have prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy for the second time (finding out yesterday apparently I didn't pray it correctly).
I advice all of you to do it. I started crying and even after, I could not stop crying for about 30 minutes. Such an amazing chaplet, felt my heart burning with love for Christ and especially with His love for me.
>>75922826
Watch the video faggot and I never said I did but the meme that they attack it just to sack and conquer it is bullshit.
>>75922571
No, but part of keeping our civilization in existence is raising our birthrates.
The banning of abortion in Poland will certainly pay dividends to the Poles, who were afflicted by Communism for so long.
I respect Poland.
>>75922709
> Jews said there is a scary place of eternal fire where you go
Jews don't believe that though, they don't even want to THINK about the idea that there is eternal fire.
You have more in common with them than you think.
>>75922940
*they did not I did
>>75922667
> telling someone else to take away the life that God gave them
Please keep that out of a Christian thread
>[CURRENTYEAR]
>Having an imaginary friend in the sky
KEK
>>75922851
Hungary is far more nationalistic than Poland, and only 45 % of hungarians believe in God
Poland's catholicism is more of a product of being cucked by protestant germans and orthodox russians than any sort of realization of the supposed "truth" of a bizarre jewish apocalyptic religion
>>75921638
SO, do you guys still go to church?
I kinda lost the feeling of going to it. Every time i go there it is a bore fest and i don't like going there in low spirits.
>>75922922
Hah.
Fuck that.
>>75922938
Woah, you have crossed the line of sanity.
>>75923061
This
>>75923092
You shouldn't believe in God anyways, but a start is a start.
>>75922940
Constantinople was not the only city they raided
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine–Seljuq_wars#Crusades
they were mercenaries, and all they needed was an excuse to raid other christians
Good on ya OP for this thread.
>>75923092
>SO, do you guys still go to church?
I've only been going since February. And its been my favourite part of the week since then. And I only just recently became a member of the Church and became able to partake in communion.
>>75922762
>Even if there is still no evidence of said being, there isn't evidence of that entidy being the one expressed in the bible.
I won't try to convince you of that.
But I will show you that there are many scientific theories that suggest that there is higher dimensions.
Such as Fibonacci Sequence, which tells us that there is an incredible mathematic precision to the universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-C1cpG6TLc
>>75922916
Roman culture is only a part of our civilisation via the Renaissance, a cultural movement within Christian society. There is no contiguous cultural inheritance between Rome and early modern Europe. Latin itself was already a dead language. Christianity is the religion of our civilisation. It pervaded every aspect of every second of life for every man, woman and child during the period known as Western civilisation.
>>75922970
No shit Sherlock
Jews don't actually believe any of the bullshit about loving your enemies and going to hell if you call someone a fool that they taught to the stupid goyim
>>75923352
Like i said, this is no evidence of the christian God.
Higher dimentions or not, it is not related to the thread at hand.
>>75923083
So what if they are more nationalistic?
Are you Christians because of 4chan memes?
>>75923083
>Poland's catholicism is more of a product of being cucked by protestant germans and orthodox russians than any sort of realization of the supposed "truth" of a bizarre jewish apocalyptic religion
No it's a result of them realizing that they wanted to keep their culture despite anyone insisting that they should be something else.
Even in the face of idiots like you
>>75922955
banning abortion without an eugenic program to take its place is outright dysgenic
>>75923038
>2/3 of christian lands get taken over by muslims and christians get converted by sword
>Moors and Turks invade both sides of the remaining christian lands
>Pope calls crusade to unite Christendom against these invaders
>OH NO JESUS DOESN'T WANT US TO USE VIOLENCE THAT IS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE HE WAS PEACEFUL!
I am sick of you fags that meme Jesus as peaceful even though there are moments of the bible he uses violence
>>75921638
>>75923061
>>75923168
>>75923168
> mostly one word replies
Shitposting: Exibit A
>>75923168
>Woah, you have crossed the line of sanity.
I am the most rational person you will ever find. When you give in to the love of God, you will realise it is the most real and powerful thing in the whole Universe.
Fun thing. The chaplet of divine Mercy was given to a Catholic nun by Jesus himself, with this motivation: "Write this: Before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy"
Repent anon, before it is too late
>>75923410
That is an ahistorical claim
Heck, even the Germans tried to keep the historical continuity with Rome in the form of the HRE
>>75922851
lol the poles that go to England are just lower class apes, their women racemix tons and their men are lower class criminals. Plus in Poland they go outside of the nation to have aboritions
>>75923608
Religion is also beginning to die in Poland among the youth.
>>75923492
Sure, because Christianity is their culture
it is not like it was imported by the Catholic Church by the sword and by bribing the upper classes
it is not like slavic languages and cultures already existed before Kikestianity
>>75923519
Saved that image you posted, thanks.
>>75923483
It's very related actually.
Since there is a high probability of there being higher dimensions, that means that there are most likely entities within those dimensions.
The level of interaction goes up.
The 3rd dimension can perceive the 2nd and 1st dimension, but can't perceive the 4th dimension.
A 4th dimensional being could easily interact with the 3rd dimension, and in doing so it may be perceived by 3rd dimensional beings as some kind of God, or maybe a Ghost.
>>75923705
source?
>>75923517
And inmoral.
Abortion is a choice that everyone must have.
>>75923554
...?
>>75923491
Or, they are just gullibe and ignorant of reality.
>>75923561
Well, most of your arguments crumble on themselves alone, so it doesnt deserve my effort.
>>75923574
Actually, rational refers to your ability to be able to perceive reality.
You believe in a inmoral higher power without evidence.
That is not very rational at all.
>>75923705
Kek.
Thank "God".
>>75923760
Probability is meaningless compared to evidence.
Also, we are talking about the Christian God, which makes this even easier to debunk.
>>75923826
God?
Delutional jews.
Found an italian document where someone gathered all approved prophecies by the Church given by mystics throughout the centuries and from all parts of the world. What is spooky is how they are all very similar to each other. A recurring theme are the 3 days of darkness.
Since I mentioned the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. Here is what Jesus told St.Faustina:
>Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort:
>All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Savior were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day (Diary, 83).
>>75923519
Jesus stopped his followers from using the sword when they tried to defend themselves, Peter and Paul had to resign to their death by martyrhood
The actions of Jesus don't contradict the explicit demands he made out of his followers, specially given that at the end he did submit to his cross and martyrhood as well
>>75923491
Why should that matter? Have your opinions stayed the same since you came to 4chan?
(I converted to Christianity in 2002 and was confirmed in 2009.)
>>75923710
Right, but see how you're having an intelligent discussion with me now?
That's all I wanted from you.
Poland has the lowest levels of abortion because they don't want to see their people fall to the leftist propaganda that European feminists throw at them.
They don't WANT to see their nation fall to radical feminism.
and what a surprise that Christianity is the best way to fight back culturally.
Because Christianity has a strong set of principles that set a guideline for what to do to avoid degeneracy.
One of those things is the murder of babies, another of those things is to defend yourself if necessary and practice moderation.
>>75923890
I was talking about the Russians post, and also
>that guy that responds to every post
>>75923897
yeah I read that, pretty spooky
>>75923269
That is true that some "crusaders" raided and sacked Byzantine towns during the first but they weren't crusaders and were followers of peter the hermit whom went against the pope's rules of getting approval from the catholic church and was denounced by Urban the II for their pillaging and therefore weren't part of the crusade and were just basically bandits which Urban the II was trying to stop in europe with bickering nobles and shit.
>TL;DR People's Crusade =/= Official Crusades
>>75923826
The young generation of Poles reject faith faster, although as many as 71 percent of representatives of this generation consider themselves to believe or seriously believe in God. Still, this is 20 % less than the entire population of Poles. 57.7 percent of young people say they simply “believe in God”, while 12.4 % are profound believers. Over the past two decades the number of serious believers has decreased among young people by 5.5 percent, and the number of “believers” by 4.1 percent.
http://www.pope2016.com/en/faith/catholic-church-in-poland/polish-catholics/news,474268,faith-and-religious-practice-in-poland.html
>>75923961
>Have your opinions stayed the same since you came to 4chan?
Pretty much the same.
>>75923598
Germany isn't Rome. And the Holy Roman Empire was Christian.
>>75923897
Could you link to this document?
>>75923990
they are doing it in spite of Christianity, not because of it
Shall I remind you that the Pope has called out Poland on refusing to welcome muslim refugees?
Thread so far confirms earlier science, interesting!
>>75924058
The HRE include Rome during most of its existence
Christianity is a detail of the history of Rome and the West, not the other way around
Rome existed before Christianity, so did Germans
>>75924162
Atheists and pagans welcome refugees too. On the other hand, when the church was the real power in Europe we had crusades.
>>75923890
>Actually, rational refers to your ability to be able to perceive reality.
Nice made up definition. Rational is something that is grounded in reason. My faith is much more reasonable than your blind edgy atheism.
>You believe in a inmoral higher power without evidence.
inmoral? God is the ultimate source of morality.
>>75924027
this part is also spooky, because it seems to imply the time of mercy is near its end. Noticed how Pope Francis instituted the jugilee of Mercy this year? He even released this "little mercy", which has a rosary and the chaplet of divine mercy written in it, even distributed it for free in the Vatican. I am really afraid shit's about to happen
https://www.amazon.it/Gdanskie-Seminarium-Duchowne-Misericordina-Francesco/dp/B00H9HD0D6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464920361&sr=8-1&keywords=misericordina
>Today I am sending you with My mercy to the people of the whole world. I do not want to punish aching mankind, but I desire to heal it, pressing it to My merciful Heart. I use punishment when they themselves force me to do so; My hand is reluctant to take hold of the sword of justice. Before the Day of Justice, I am sending the Day of Mercy. ... I am prolonging the time of mercy for the sake of [sinners]. But woe to them if they do not recognize this time of My visitation (Diary, 1588 and 1160).
>>75924162
If you understood Catholicism you would know that there have been horrible Popes throughout the generations.
That has never stopped good Christians.
and if you think Christianity is dying, then you have another thing coming.
Christianity is currently at a 3% growth rate.
The Chinese Christians for example are growing at an alarming rate, despite their Governments attempts to curb them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9dsbbe4zXc
>>75924279
Catholic Rome. The Roman Empire literally came into being during the life of Jesus.
>>75921985
If I take you to the Kiev Caves and put the myrrh streaming skulls of saints in front of you I doubt you'd believe because you worship your false god of science
>>75923953
This was the debated about issue that Pope Urban II had with himself and he wrote it down too on whether or not Jesus's Teaching would support self-defense (as in the Muslims taking christian lands and such) and it was concluded that as long as the knight denounced sin and didn't commit unnecessary sins like murder/rape/sacking then you are allowed to fight (Reasons why the people's crusade was denounced and everyone excommunicated and same with knights of the 4th that did the bidding of Venice)
>>75924283
But the Christian Churches HAVE power RIGHT NOW in Europe
The Church of England has been one of the main drivers of the push for mass immigration in UK through their influence in the Tory party, the same with the Christian Democrats in Germany
That the Church does not use its influence to call for crusades has more to do with crusades being anti-christian than anything else. "Do not resist evil" is quite explicit
>>75924381
>Christianity is currently at a 3% growth rate.
Among third world, savage, retarded, Africans mainly.
>>75924283
Also, who are these atheistic and pagan organizations that are welcoming refugees?
the pagan-linked identitarians of France and Austria have actually done the opposite, the same with Varg
One god is like saying one being is the best at everything. If anything there are multiple gods.
Only Jews make such overlording religions. All arabs decended from Jews.
>>75924381
I never said that Christianity is dying
To the opposite! It is growing in power, and it is using that power to push for insane anti-world legislation
>>75923752
Welcome
>>75924033
yeah what sample size and location of it? probably in some city shithole
>>75924345
well only god truly knows when the time is near. Hopefully not soon because I still need to convert to Catholicism, im doing it undercover ATM
>>75924620
>anti-world legislation
Like what?
>>75924345
If the christian God is all knowing, then you have no free will based in the fact that it must know your future actions well befoee you are born.
If you were destined to kill someone and thus, burn in hell, God created you for he puepouse of killing someone and going to hell.
You know, i can tell you how wanting homosexuals to be slain or drowning the entire earth is inmoral by our standards, you do not seem stable enough to comprehend such facts.
>>75924620
It is.
It's a joke and shouls be demolished soon so the future generations can prosper and have a better life outsude of mysticism and inmorality.
>>75924457
Pope Urban II completely ignored "DO not resist evil" and the fact that Christians are SUPPOSED to be persecuted, that way they can get great rewards in Heaven, Jesus himself said so
>>75924464
No they don't. The church has been completely cucked by marxists and jews like you.
>>75924724
It was a survey done by the Catholic church in Poland.
>>75924470
It is growing in Europe again as well.
>>75924620
>anti-world legislation
Are you in favor of Globalism?
>>75924464
>But the Christian Churches HAVE power RIGHT NOW in Europe
top lel, the leadership has been coopted by jewish masons since the French revolution, and namely since the turn of the century and cemented it during the 60s
>>75923897
So when that happens, I'll repent and I'll be saved and it will be all good yeah?
>>75924738
https://www.churchofengland.org/media-centre/news/2016/04/digest-report-on-bishop's-asylum-call-for-child-refugees.aspx
they are the ones that forced the recent tory turn-out on the rapefugees
As long as Christianity is a thing, Europeans are slaves to the poor, wretched, meek masses of the world
>>75924771
yes but what of the survey size and location they did it in?
>>75924764
I am a fucking spic, why the hell would a be a fucking jew
Come on
Also your statement is bizarre. The Church has been Jewish from day on
What ethnicity do you think Paul and Peter were? Come on!
>>75924470
So what if 3rd worlders come to Christ?
I think that it is great
Also, much of East Asia is not 3rd world
>>75924033
>>75924771
>Implying that the younger generations haven't been routinely donning their Fedoras for the last 50 years.
Many of them mature.
>>75924888
anti-world as in "rejection of the world and life in the name of virtue signalling"
aka inviting rapefugees to prove how much of saint deserving of heaven you are
>>75924620
> anti world
wat
> it is growing in power
cool!
>>75924898
The leadership of the Church has been jewish from day one
it is as if you people think that Peter and Paul were germans or italians!
>>75924760
Okay give me those bible passages were he said that Christians should be killed for being christian to get rewards in heaven then also did not Jesus resist evil by questioning the authority of several organizations in Palestine?
>>75924995
they rejected the true messiah (Christ) and left the old jewish covenant, jews had Christ you fool. Theyre industries use every moment to undermine him
>>75925114
yeah they accepted Christ as their messiah and the son of god, unlike most of them at the time. Jews today hate Christ
>>75925016
>So what if 3rd worlders come to Christ?
Any hope of africans using condomns and abortion = gone
it is like you people want a mindless starving mass of nignogs to move into Europe AS LONG as that mindless mass is christian
>>75925107
You better be happy then, because in USA it is using that power to promote more mexican immigration
>>75925055
Even you americans are actually starting to be more sane
>>75924888
>Evangelicals
Yes, my Dad is one. However you are not looking at total amounts.
>>75924963
1005 people, from all over Poland. Sample is taken as representative. Before you go >1005 I would recommend you take a statistics class.
>>75925016
>So what if 3rd worlders come to Christ?
The last thing we need is more Africans around and church teaching encourages that.
>Also, much of East Asia is not 3rd world
Only South Korea, Taiwan and Japan are not third world in East Asia.
>>75925055
There is no maturity in God though.
>>75924757
>If the christian God is all knowing, then you have no free will
Calvin pls go
> it must know your future actions
>it
HE knows future actions, but he allows them exactly because we have free will.
>If you were destined to kill someone and thus, burn in hell, God created you for he puepouse of killing someone and going to hell
Nobody is destined to kill someone because everybody has the choice not to do so. God knows who we are, know our will, therefore he knows if we will kill someone. He usually does not stop us exactly because we have free will.
Stop blaming God for your degeneracy.
>>75924724
>well only god truly knows when the time is near.
Of course. Just pointing out that we are in a time of mercy right now and should be on the lookout because we don't know when it will end
>Hopefully not soon because I still need to convert to Catholicism, im doing it undercover ATM
I am sure that if it happened before you convert, God would keep in consideration that you didn't have time to do it before the chastisement, but count your will to do so as righteousness. Just like the thief on the cross was saved even though he simply believed: he was about to die but he was saved anyway because God knew that if he had lived, he would have become a good Christian and followed His commands.
>>75924911
>So when that happens, I'll repent and I'll be saved and it will be all good yeah?
The fact that you have thought about this as a way to escape chastisement invalidates your repentance. God knows your heart better than yourself. Since you have entertained the idea to repent only because you are about to die, when it really happens that will be taken into account against you. You could have repented much sooner but you didn't, therefore your repentance will most likely be fake. Not judging you, maybe you will be really repentant and God will save you...just saying that you should change your attitude if you want that to happen
>>75925059
That's an absurdly inaccurate claim.
You're in Panama so you don't understand what it's like around here.
If I say I am against refugees coming in, they will tell me that I am just a privileged white CHRISTIAN male oppressor.
Those are the words they will use.
It is the leftists who want refugees.
>>75925059
> he still thinks that it is Christian to invite foreign invaders of which 70% are fighting age Muislim males into the Western world
I thought we settled this in the last thread?
>>75925244
> implying that a Christian Europe would let them all in
>>75921638
christianity is degenerate (not to mention dumb)
>>75925119
Do not resist evil != not questioning anything
The whole idea was to convert people as you suffered a horrible death, which is exactly what the endless christian martyrs tried to do as the romans tried to destroy the plague
as for the verses, check out the sermon of the mount
The ones that receive blessings in Heaven are those persecuted, those that are meek, those that are poor and unhappy, those that suffer
the ones that receive the woes are the people that are happy and enjoying life in this world
it is very explicit, and fix very well with the rest of the ideas of the Gospel
Your blessing in Heaven is extremely dependant on having a fucked up life on this Earth
>>75925398
If you have free will, then God shouldn't know the future of your actions.
Thus, he is not all knowing.
If God does now your future, then all of your actions have already been seen and predestined.
Checkmate, faggot.
>>75925398
Thank you for being in this thread, based Italian. Your replies are some of the most well thought out and detailed.
Peace of Christ be with you!
>>75925447
>its a turn the other cheeke episode
>In his books "Engaging the Powers" and "The Powers That Be," Wink argues that Jesus rejected two common ways of responding to injustice: violent resistance and passive acceptance. Instead, Jesus advocated a "third way," an assertive but non-violent form of protest.
>The key to understanding Wink's argument is rigorous attention to the social customs of the Jewish homeland in the first century and what these sayings would have meant in that context.
>To illustrate with the saying about turning the other cheek: it specifies that the person has been struck on the right cheek. How can you be struck on the right cheek? As Wink emphasizes, you have to act this out in order to get the point: you can be struck on the right cheek only by an overhand blow with the left hand, or with a backhand blow from the right hand. (Try it).
>But in that world, people did not use the left hand to strike people. It was reserved for "unseemly" uses. Thus, being struck on the right cheek meant that one had been backhanded with the right hand. Given the social customs of the day, a backhand blow was the way a superior hit an inferior, whereas one fought social equals with fists".
>>75925148
That Jesus is the "enemy" of Jews is a typical case of misdirection
Thanks to Christianity, Jews got a monopoly on medieval finances that made them extremely rich by 1600s, and by the 1900s they had a huge mass of zionist christians ready to do their bidding so that israel could exist again (after pagan romans almost destroyed it forever) and the world could finally end
>>75925597
>>>/trash/
Christianity is the solution for Western degeneracy.
Its values indisputably counter all the leftist degeneracy.
>>75924995
Christians aren't jews.
>>75925673
>>75925632
as people who don't believe in Christianity let alone god why do you come in here? I get its a free board but why waste your time with us who believe in Christ?
>>75925556
Christian Europe IS
The Christian Catholic POPE, the Christian Democrat Leader MERKEL, and the Archbishop of England are singing "COME IN NOW PLEASE!"
>>75925726
> cites a book other than the bible as something that represents Christian beliefs
>>75925834
It was the pagan Romans who destroyed the temple and spread the jews through Europe.
>>75925869
Christians claim to be the true Jews. For example Catholics and Orthodox claim that the church is Israel, and that the Christians are the Jews, ie. the people of Israel.
>>75925673
>If you have free will, then God shouldn't know the future of your actions.
this is a non-sequitur. I will explain in the simplest way possible. If I open my hand in front of a 12-year-old and have a candy in my hand, I know for sure he will take the candy and eat it. Does that mean that kid does not have a free choice to take the candy or not? No, it just means I know better than him, and in no way I am forcing him to do anything he does not want to. God does not just know better than us, he knows literally everything, He is Wisdom
>If God does now your future
He does
>then all of your actions have already been seen and predestined.
Not at all, two separate matters
>>75925721
Thank you anon, it's nice to receive compliments once in a while. God bless you!
>>75925834
yeah that was because jews were let in for usury, and jews have been expelled from every nation in Europe and the ME. Jews are disgusting Christ killers family. And the only ''christians' that like Israel are evangelicals
look up the jewish blood rituals they do to muslims and Christian kids, for that fresh gentile blood
>>75925949
The only one of those who has political power is a former marxist propagandist.
>>75925949
Merkel is literally a former Stasi officer
The Pope is not Christian
>>75925447
not really. I didn't get any answer as to why a real christian would not embrace muslim immigration as a way to be martyred and get divine prizes in Heaven
>>75925982
think you got the wrong guy
>>75925632
>Do not resist evil != not questioning anything
That is not what Jesus meant by turning the other cheek. He's saying not to respond to evil with evil.
>>75925889
Because i feel the need to help you realize the lie you have been indoctrinated in.
If you were born in other country that believes in a different God, would you worship it over Jesus?
Answer that.
>>75926138
>>75926119
Merkel is the daughter of a Lutheran priest.
>>75925988
No they don't.
>>75925988
> Christians claim to be true Jews
No, we don't, tovarisch Ivan
>>75926146
because god gave us this body to live for as long as we can and worship him, it like saying kill yourself so you can see god. That's not how it works
>>75926237
Stalin was a priest.
>>75925889
Because /pol/ is supposed to be a place for logical discussion
not a place where blue-pilled people engage in paranoid delusions about a land of eternal fiery damnation that exists because Jews said so
>>75925988
No, we don't
>>75926138
>The Pope is not Christian
He is not Christian.... for actually embracing Christian morality?
that is absurd
>>75926055
In your example, God would have already known that the child would take the candy millions of years before the child was evem conceived.
Thus, your choice has no meaning since the conclution the child would have was already decided before his will was a thing.
>>75926240
Yes they do. I studied this at a church. The church is Israel, and accordingly the members of the church are the Jews.
>>75926256
>>75926399
See above.
>>75926349
Stalin went to a priest school, he never completed it.
>>75926226
>Because i feel the need to help you realize the lie you have been indoctrinated in.
Going on tangents and trying to provoke people doesn't help them realize shit, it makes them think you're retarded.
>If you were born in other country that believes in a different God, would you worship it over Jesus?
I was an Atheist, so yes.
>>75926226
>If you were born in other country that believes in a different God, would you worship it over Jesus?
I would seek the truth, the one truth and would end up with Christ. Which I did
>>75926237
and? How does that make a jewish women (which she is) Christian? she is a masonic agent in europe
>>75926351
Okay oh so enlightened one which religion should we follow to stop degeneracy then?
>>75926146
Yes you did.
Here >>75918874
And here >>75920403
>>75926146
Christians have no obligation to destroy our own civilization
There is your answer
>>75926351
>Because /pol/ is supposed to be a place for logical discussion
lmao, go on a different website or debate club for that
>>75925988
The Church is Israel, but we are not "jews", we are simply the continuation of the ever-renewing covenant God made with man, through the OT and then the NT Testament.
"Jews" broke off that covenant when they refused to accept Jesus as their Messiah. I don't see what you find wrong with that.
>>75926256
>>75926240
>>75926399
he is right. It's called supersessionism
>>75926138
>The Pope is not Christian
before I jump on you like do you mean Pope Francis or all Popes? I agree with you on Pope Francis though if that is the case
>>75925869
Are you trying to say that Paul wasn't jewish? Because that is a lie
>>75925987
The diaspora had existed all the way back to Babylonia
>>75926083
An economical system can't work without a financing sector. Christianity is retarded in that it believes that saving treasures in this world is somehow bad and pointless
>>75926211
> In his books "Engaging the Powers" and "The Powers That Be," Wink argues
Doesn't sound like the Bible to me
>>75926498
>How does that make a jewish women (which she is) Christian?
She is a Christian. She believes in Christianity, was raised Christian and is a member of the Christian party of Germany.
>>75926621
I was not making a statement of it being wrong or right, just making an argument of it.
>>75926660
He was Jewish when he was Saul
Then he became Paul, a Christian
>>75921638
OP i have a question.
I have considered myself Christian for as long as I can remember. I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and I am actually starting to really try and study the Bible for the first time. Problem is, is that I constantly do stupid stuff (ie..drink too much, act un-Godly, sleep with a lot of women..)
I understand the theory of repentance and that I need to not only specifically request to be forgiven but that I also need to not do/desire to do the things that have caused me to sin in the first place. I feel bad because i know what I am doing would shame God, but I have trouble convincing myself that i do not ENJOY the things that are getting me in trouble. I do not WANT to sin, but I also cannot find a way to lie to myself that going out drinking beers and talking to women, is not an enjoyable thing.
How do you reconcile this?
>>75926478
>>75926621
No he's not. Christians are not jews. Jews persecuted Christians when they had power. And Christians persecuted jews when they had power.
>>75926660
>Are you trying to say that Paul wasn't jewish? Because that is a lie
That doesn't even remotely suggest that Christians in general are Jews.
>>75926536
Christianity has no civilizational concerns
it does not need to destroy anything, it just needs not to care and allow foreign hordes to do it
>>75926527
I answered both:
I am not the one trying to turn Christianity into something else. Both the leaders of Ancient Christianity and Modern Christianity interpret it this way, and that is why they embraced martyrhood by roman back then, and why they wanna embrace martyrhood by mudslime now
Why do you assume Christianity is a religion that gives room to wordly concerns is beyond me: The fact that many christians try to forget the terrible moral implications does not mean that the poison will vanish, and that it won't morally disarm whites as it is happening now
Do you think what is happening is some sort of historical accident?
Never mind, that you seem to be scared of martyrhood, as if you actually didn't believe into any of this jewish bullshit about rewards for self-destruction, and you actually love the world and wanted Britain to last forever, jewish apocalyptic bullshit be damned
>>75926660
It is possible to have a financial sector without money becoming an idol to people
It is not inherently un-christian
>>75926703
Im on your side fool, im talking about how when athiests say just turn the other cheek and let millions of immigrants in or just ignore injustice that they phrase it wrong and only use it to exploit their viewpoint let alone theyre not Christians
>>75926660
It worked fine before usury, and islam has no usury. Nations cant work well with jews in them
>>75926527
>God endorses ethno-nationalism
For Jews
As for the new testament...
> There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
I really recommend you to read Acts again, you will readily notice that the first christian communities were egalitarian in nature
> it was secure
No it wasn't. While Mongols were destroying europe and turks occupied the balkans, the demented monks were flagellating themselves asking for the end of the world
it would not be until after the industrial revolutions of the 1800s that Europe started to BTFO Islam in a consistent manner while stopping the idiot fights about what color Jesus' blood was or some other bullshit
> Now it is not Christian, our cities are filled with low iq unaesthetic parasites and popular culture is the definition of mediocrity.
How do you know it is not Christian? The government is doing exactly what the Church of England is demanding
Your cities were free of low iq unaesthetic parasites only insofar your warriors were great conquerors that looked for great treasures and territories in the world and gave a fuck about "saving treasures in Heaven instead" and virtal signalling
>>75926829
Christians are the "true Jews" in the view of Christianity because they are Israel and they are the ones actually following God's covenant. That is my point. According to Christianity the Jews are the "untrue Jews" who refused to follow the covenant fully.
>>75926621
>he is right. It's called supersessionism
Oh I thought he was meaning that we were Jews like "we are le chosen people and no one else can join our secret club!!!1111111111"
>>75926525
Heathen
>>75926475
>In your example, God would have already known that the child would take the candy millions of years before the child was evem conceived.
Yes
>Thus, your choice has no meaning since the conclution the child would have was already decided before his will was a thing.
Again, this is a non-sequitur. There are things God decides and are immutable, like the laws of the Universe for example. Our free will is free exactly because God allows it. He decided that our actions are not his to decide. Even if he knows we'll do something bad, he does not stop us so that our free will can be upholded.
>>75926748
lmao, shes a masonic shill with jewish ancestary. Just because she parades as a Christian does not mean that she is. She is a Satanist like all the other EU leaders
>>75926965
Sorry I should have paid more attention.
My mistake.
>>75926846
It proves that Christian and Jewish are not exclusive terms
>>75926805
Christian is NOT an ethnicity
>>75926950
>>75926965
Jesus does not criticize usury tho
he criticizes the very act of saving treasures for tomorrow, the very basis of a forward-thinking economy
>>75926968
why do you care about ethno-nationalism anyway? You are a mutt from panama ffs.
>>75923061
SWEDEN YES!
stay atheist@stay cucked
>>75927022
Are you calling me a heathen or are you saying that we should follow heathenism?
>>75926829
They are one and the same. The only ones who act otherwise are their pawns. Elites will stop at nothing to rule people.
>>75926864
When Europe was Christian, it was homogeneous, secure, cultured and non-degenerate.
Now that Europe is not Christian, thanks to people like you, it is full of shitskin fifth columns and degeneracy.
You are the problem. The enemy of the West. As bad as jews. As bad as marxists. Even worse because you are attacking your own kind. The lowest of the low.
>>75927228
I am aware of that
In that context, you are using Judaism as a religion
There is nothing wrong with an ethnic Jew being Christian
>>75926828
>Problem is, is that I constantly do stupid stuff (ie..drink too much, act un-Godly, sleep with a lot of women..)
Everyone has vices. Self-improvement is always good, but you shouldn't feel too bad about it.
>I understand the theory of repentance and that I need to not only specifically request to be forgiven but that I also need to not do/desire to do the things that have caused me to sin in the first place.
I have a Priest who I talk to about these things and I'll often tell him how I always fall back into sin even though I try not to.
Here's something you have to understand.
WHO YOU ARE IS OKAY.
You are exactly who you are supposed to be. You have to work on self-improvement, and ask God to help you do this.
Because of course there is a part of you that wants to live degenerately, that's the fleshly part of you.
You will never NOT sin.
But you can get better and better over time.
>>75927235
> Italians talking about who is mutt after having its southern part occupied by arabs for 200 years
Not an argument
>>75927266
Second one my fellow dubs man.
>>75926920
No you didn't. You ignored both and carried on making strawmans.
>>75927202
np dude
>>75927228
http://starthere.the11thcommandment.org/
>>75927228
>It proves that Christian and Jewish are not exclusive terms
No it proves that Christians came out of Judaism.
Doesn't prove that they aren't exclusive terms.
>>75927421
I thought this was just a meme
>>75927297
You attacked Germany as Christian soldiers against fellow white men for your Jewish-Christian masters.
>>75926829
you are obsessing over the term "jew". The point is that we are in a covenant of God. The covenant is always the same, since Adam to the current year. Those who identify as jews gave up the covenant, broke out of it, whereas those who identify as christians didn't. You could argue that gentiles weren't always part of the covenant and are a later addition, but God always knew gentiles would be part of it so it makes perfect sense to say we were always in the covenant. Hope you understand my point.
>>75927421
I am not the one talking about ethno-nationalism. Why do you care about an ideology in which you would have literally no place? You are basically a LARPer for an ideology where you would be the first one to be gassed. >not an argument
Quite the opposite, it is a very good argument.
>>75921638
>visit /pol/
>learn about nationalism and preservation of culture
>my family is catholic (we wuz romans n sheeit)
>mfw catholics are niggers of the christians world, pope is a heretic and vatican is LITERALLY SATAN
>>75927292
Christians aren't elite. 99%+ of European people pre-WW2 when the jews took over our society and created people like >>75927421
were Christian.
>>75927636
BritAnon wasn't alive then
>>75926403
The pope is an idolator, not Christian.
>>75927678
> le niggers in le christian world
Doesn't sound like a Christian attitude to me
>>75927678
http://www.tldm.org/News3/impostor.htm
>>75927636
I didn't attack anyone.
>>75927703
Next you're going to tell me the High Priests of Christianity aren't Elite. Those 99% were pawns.
>>75927297
Your definitions are outright strange
There is nothing in Christianity that guarantees a homogeneous, secure, cultured and non-degenerate.
I hope that you are aware that the most racially mixed country in the world, Brazil, is Christian and very devoted at that
Meanwhile, there is a long line of atheists from Friedrich Nietzsche to H. P. Lovecraft, which pointed out the very same problems I notice now with Christianity
Do you really believe that if HP Lovecraft would have been the leader of Britain instead of the Queen, he would have allowed the current situation to happen?
Atheism has nothing to do with cucking for Islam
in order to cuck for Islam, you have to be convinced that victimism is a path to holiness, and the only way there is through Christianity
>>75927678
can niggers do this?
>>75927922
>brazil
>Devout catholic
lel, theyre """"catholics""""" as in the wear a cross,but do not receive communion or live the life that god commanded. Its a sexual brothel the country with some Christians in it
>>75927979
They can do you one better
>>75928077
that is not a real picture though, mine are
>>75927861
Explain to me why the metal crafting that was able to craft Tutenkamen's dagger was 'lost'. You faggots destroyed the great library just because they didn't follow you. You are essentially the left of the current world.
>>75927646
I don't see how endorsing Ethnic-Nationalist resistance to Islam would lead to me being gassed, unless you believe in the Turner Diaries meme of "nuking all countries except Europe and USA"
>>75928130
I don't mean to say piramids aren't real, just that they don't fly.
Also they weren't made by blacks
>>75928133
>you destroyed
>>75927922
I'm afraid they were wrong. The enemies of Christianity have destroyed Western civilsiation. Destroyed our culture. Opened the pandora's box of degeneracy. Atheism is the cause of the fall of the West.
>you have to be convinced that victimism is a path to holiness
Strawman.
Also if Christianity is against fags why do priests rape young boys? Is that not a Jewish act?
>>75927462
Calling something a strawman does not make it a strawman
For example, I clearly pointed out that Europe was not secure until the Industrial Revolution, refuting your claim that Christianity made europe secure
I didn't get a proper answer to that
>>75928077
>>75928252
I was just joking :)
>>75928243
>I don't see how endorsing Ethnic-Nationalist resistance to Islam would lead to me being gassed
Ethno-nationalism isn't something that you can cherrypick only in one matter and not in all the others.
You would be gassed because
1) you are a mutt
2) you live in a non-country
Don' like it? Then you don't like ethno-nationalism
>>75928379
:^)
>>75927870
They were not elite because of Christianity, They were elites who happened to be Christian. And they ran our society a hell of a lot better than the current cucks.
>>75927517
If a jew can be a christian, then it can
don't mix up religion and ethnicity
>>75928277
All Christians pay for the sins of their religion and their treason of the white race.
>>75928133
That wasn't me.
>>75928308
>all people are perfect
>no one sins
But those priests that do should be hung, and the increase was due to modernists in the 60s and the attention received is much greater due to the media owners (jews) who hate catholics but the very rates are greater and public schools and protestant churches
>>75928308
> was about to reply
> noticed the flag
> mfw
its obvious that we do not approve of that
>>75928439
>looks at flag
Huh, neat!
>>75928403
Let me get it straight: Because Front National is an ethno-nationalist party, it means it wanna gas Panama?
how does that make any sense?
There is nothing about ethno-nationalism that involves gassing other countries, unless you believe in the liberal meme that "nationalists are actually nazis that wanna kill everyone non blonde", in which case a lot of italians would die as well
>>75928439
>>75928512
>>75928526
>>75928560
Australian IP blocks should be automatically banned
>>75928419
Exactly. The Elite have many religions based off the original script of control. They use whichever is in power and force them against each other in a game. The lives lost are just pawns to them.
Currently Islam is going for cultural victory which they will get if we dont cull their numbers.
>>75928296
Why is it a strawman? Do you even know what a strawman is?
The Pope is not a strawman, he is fucking real
>>75924724
What made you decide to convert and how old are you? Just curious.
T. Catholic
>>75928608
Just another shitskin trying to destroy Western civilisation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama#Ethnic_groups
>>75928807
22,
and searching for the truth but a lot of other supernatural shit that happened. I haven't converted yet, though soon
>>75927922
>>75928243
>>75928349
>>75928431
>>75928608
All you talk about is ethnicity
Christianity is a religion for everyone in the world
That does not mean that it promotes the ethnic mixing of everyone in the world
For mixing together all cultures would destroy them all
End of story.
>>75928782
Christians don't intentionally victimise themselves. They never have. It's a strawman.
>>75928869
Not an argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London#Ethnicity
>>75928308
I had written a lenghty reply and then google chrome fucked up. Not going to write that again.
Summary:
>CC has more than 1 billion members
>creeps from the degenerate world can creep in sometimes
>the source of evil therefore not the Church, but the degenerate world
>degenerate world disregards this and calls others pedos
>they don't give a shit about the abused children, if they did they would highlight many other scandals of such manner (rotherham, green part in germany, pedowood, etc. etc.)
>the only thing they care about is convince the Church to abolish celibacy for priests
>that way, they will prove to the world that you cannot live without sex and that being chaste is always a "repressive" act, and never a "liberating" one. They will have succeeded in subverting the Logos (i.e. Truth) on sexual ethics in pretty much the only place where they are preserved.
>>75928922
Good luck and God bless
>>75928431
That's true.
So what's your problem?
>>75928945
But they have?
He literally told his followers that they would be persecuted for spreading his cult
>>75928980
I don't live in London jamal.
>>75928935
This.
>>75928608
>how does that make any sense?
You are looking at it the wrong way. Why do you like an ideology that is not applicable to you so much? The fact that it is only applicable to certain countries means that it is a flawed one. It does not have the mark of real truth, which is, something that is always true no matter the context.
>>75929057
thanks dude!
>>75929044
look at his flag
>>75928935
I am not saying that Christianity wanna mix everyone (that is arguable even if there is some evidence)
I am saying that Christianity turns being a victim into something good, which is disastreous
>>75929249
How does Jewishness fit into that argument at all?
>>75927448
That only got us to were we are now m8
>>75928349
The last major muslim victory in Europe was the fall of Constantinople. Literally the exact same time that Europe was fully Christianised and modern Western civilisation began in the Renaissance.
>>75929128
Believing something because you believe it is true, doesn't mean you're asking to be a victim or that you're following and idea because you want to be a victim. As for why it happens anyways? Pic related.
>>75921638
Get out, kikes.
>>75929464
Not in the least. The religion has been dead for centuries.
>>75929242
Is that a pic of your office? Cozy as fuck
>look at his flag
I took it as an opportunity to deal with the matter, even if it was just a shitpost
>>75922548
>>75929211
There is no shirt that is good forevery size
That some policies are better for some countries, does not imply that they are somehow wrong
The liberal myth that everyone is equal and every law can work with every human group in the same way is just that: a myth
the ideas that I like for Europe certainly are different from the ones I would prefer for Panama, which would be concentrated around eugenics instead of simple immigrational issues
That does not change the fact that christianity is damaging in both areas, in Latin America, the church is a terrible dysgenic force, always involved in ensuring the endless ground of the underclasses
>>75929044
Non rispondere a questi stronzi australiani, fratello, ignorali.
>>75929584
>the scientific case against racism
Get out, scientists.
>>75929646
>>75922040
You can't outbreed mud people, stupid.
That means in order for Europeans to prevail, you have to close the borders and kick out illegals, both of which are policies that the religious "right" vehemently oppose, because dumbing down the population and breeding a race of subhumans is strategy #1 for the perpetuation of organized religious bodies. See history.
Educate yourself. If Europeans manage to preserve Western Civilization, it will be done against the efforts of organized religion.
>>75929545
Renaissance was taking ideas from pre-Christ Rome.
>>75922922
/pol/ was NEVER a jewish board and it never will be no matter how much you kikes whine about it.
>>75929128
>But they have?
When. Name one time that a Christian has intentionally sought to be victimised.
>>75929646
There is never an argument anyways. That's exactly why atheists only get fedoras in response.
>>75929763
Kicking them out is no good if they lesrn to survive while thriving in number. You have to get far more violent.
>>75929639
Nah, just have a bunch of comfy catholic photos
