Shall we have another /Christian/? Yeah we should. Seemed like there were some good convo's going on in the last thread. Everyone is welcome! Please keep in inter-denominational insulting to a minimum; such divisions and in-fighting in Christ's church is exactly what the devil loves to see.
I'm absolutely terrible at making OP's. If anyone has any good links, post them!
An anon early on in the last thread asked to prove to him that he had a soul. I had typed something up but didn't get a chance to post it, so I'll do so in the next couple of posts.
One of science's/physics' biggest goals is to be able to perfectly describe/quantify our world. On simple levels, we can use equations, like if you wanted to plot the movement of a pendulum. Easy stuff. What's not easy is when you're got a pendulum on a chain link that is bobbing up and down as it is swinging, or a ball with some irregular bumps on it falling down a set of breaking stairs. Very difficult to model using pen and paper. That's why we have computers to do it for us. Using certain tricks we can fairly accurately model how things move, interact, etc. in our world. We can also apply this to things like planets and stars, and even atoms and molecules using quantum mechanics. You could still technically do all of this on pen and paper, but it would be very difficult.
No consider the human brain. From a purely materialistic/biological/scientific point of view, the human brain only obeys the laws of physics; it is made up of cells and particles which obey physics. So if we were to somehow model your brain perfectly on a computer, it would act exactly like your real life brain does. So really, if we were to 'talk' to this brain, it would respond exactly like you would. I could have the exact same conversation with this brain as I would have with you. If I asked this brain if it is self-aware, it would tell me that it in fact is, because that's exactly what you would say (I assume). So, does this computer simulation have a consciousness? Is it as alive as you or I? Does it have the same rights as you or I? It certainly would think so!
>>75688228
Let’s take this a step further. I had previously said that that all of this computer simulation could be done on pen and paper. So that means, by a purely materialistic point of view, I could model out you on pen and paper. That 'brain' would respond to inputs the same way you would. It would be your memories, your personality, everything about you all written down in hundreds of thousands of equations on paper. But, does this seem reasonable? Would that really be all there is to you? If the world is only what we can see in front of us, the answer must be yes. But if that isn't true, if I can't just make a notebook called 'Anon's brain' and fill it with everything that is you and be able to determine basically your entire life, then surely there must be an aspect to the mind that exceeds simple physics. If this is not possible, then the mind is not only bound by the laws of physics, but is influenced and bound by some other aspect too. If this other aspect is not of a spiritual nature, what could it possibly be?
Cheeky mobile data bump.
Shameless self bump.
>>75687840
Deus vult
>>75687840
>>75688954
Amen Brother!
>>75689024
You wouldn't happen to have any actually questions, would you Ivan?
>>75689180
No, I wouldn't. Especially since this is /pol/ and not /b/.
Guys what do you think about nudism?
>>75689261
So you'd rather post epic memes, complain about Numales/SJW's, and circle jerk over Donald Trump, than have an actual discussion on /pol/?
>>75689422
I personally prefer modesty, but that's not exactly a religious point of view, just a personal one. I guess it could be argued that in order to prevent lustful thoughts and temptation, modesty should be applied.
Revelation 3:20 (ESV)
" Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me."
Those conversations last thread were probably the most engaging I've had all year.
>>75689858
I know! Unfortunately I wasn't able to get in there before the thread died. That's why I started a new thread; seemed too good to not happen.
>>75690018
Yeah but it's a damn shame the ayythiest fags came in.
is the christian god creator and observer, or does he control everything that happens?
>>75689660
Not to incite anything, but have you heard of "christian naturism"? It's essentially nudism with a Christian twinge to it.
I'm not even sure what is heresy anymore with the amount of justification among 'Christians'. I've heard and seen things that just bother me.
Someone please answer :(
What am I supposed to do about all this heresy and false teaching?
Inform me about orthodox christianity please pretty please
>>75690202
Well in Christendom he is generally viewed as an omnipotent being. But for me he's more than just that.
>in this moment I am euphoric. Not because of any phony science, but because I am enlightened by my faith to the true master of the universe, Lord Yahweh, protector of Yisrael and the twelve tribes
>>75687840
One day we will massacre the nonbelievers until our religion is all that remains.
DEUS VULT
>>75690643
I took a very brief look at the wiki page for it, didn't glean a whole lot. My thoughts would be that if you can honestly say that you can look upon a naked women and have ABSOLUTELY NO sexual thoughts whatsoever, then by all means go for it.
>>75690848
Well technically omnipotent = *can* do anything. Just because God can control absolutely everything, it doesn't mean that we does.
>>75690202
There are some passages in Romans that mention believers being 'predestined', but whether that means God has pre-determined absolutely everything, I don't know?
>>75690796
Very traditional, making gains in the West. Nice music. That's about all I know. Maybe Wolfshiem will show up, I think he's Orthodox?
>>75691236
You seem to be implying that science and religion cannot mix? But science and religion aim to answer different questions.
>>75691380
That is absolutely not what Jesus would do tbqh.
>I simply cannot believe that its 2016 years after the birth of our lord Jesus Christ, and people still deny his divinity. Its almost as if they never even read the ancient Judaic texts that specifically confirm his divinity. I swear to Yahweh, if I wasn't living in this athiest ruled society today I would go all deus vault on these heathens
>>75691473
Let the kiwi dream, Nigel.
>>75691474
I'm not too sure what your point is, but thanks for the bumps :^)
>look all these sad atheists, desperately trying to find truth in human made stuff like science that is constantly changing. Meanwhile I have achieved the highest possible enlightenment by simply reading the ancient and sacred Hebrew texts that remained unchanged throughout times, I am ready to face any challenge in this world while at the same time I am in a constant state of euphoria, due to my closer proximity to the divine
I'm keeping this a bit similar for a good view on things among other reasons.
How about this:
More in touch with God:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSnIHLVa2Qw [Embed]
Looks remarkable, but important. Some things that are taboo-like are like anything else because of the great commandment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivaDS3eWrE [Embed]
One if not the best functioning church at the moment. In Africa: that is how it is not suggested they have to deal with these issues. Of course a longer story why this all like this. It has the same mistakes the whole of Christianity has.
http://emmanuel.tv/
>>75692163
If I keep replying to you, are you gonna come up with more of these?
Why do you feel the need to come here and do this? Did someone hurt you in the past?
>Just as I expected, all the atheist retreated to their holes, no one has the guts to argue with me. Just so you know, I am extensively well read In the Torah, New testament and all the apocrypha texts. I also memorized all the Chronicles from the Old testament in the original Hebrew. I would like to see an """"educated"""" atheist try to argue with me
In for Woden
>>75688228
>>75688295
aristotle has a good proof of this, which i quote from the following link:
"We have knowledge of two kinds of things -- particulars and universals. Particulars are things that exist as discrete objects in nature. An apple is a particular, as is a tree and a man. Universals don't exist as discrete things in nature. Universals are characteristics of particular things. Goodness (say, a good apple), greenness (of a tree), and humanity (said of man) are universals. Universals are concepts, not discrete things existing in nature.
Particulars are substances -- things that exist in their own right. Universals are things that exist in other things -- accidents, in Aristotelian terminology. Particulars have material agency, whereas universals don't. If you are hit by a red truck, you are hit by the truck, not by the red.
Aristotle asked: Is knowledge a material act, or an immaterial act? He noted that certain kinds of knowledge -- such as sense-perception, imagination and memory -- grasp particulars and can be readily understood as material acts. I see a rock, or a tree, or a man. Such perception of particulars can easily be understood as inherently material -- or at least very tightly linked to matter."
...
>>75693052
"Aristotle pointed out that universals are another issue entirely. Knowledge of universals like good and evil -- the kind of knowledge on which free will is based -- is mediated by intellect and will. Intellect and will entail knowledge of concepts, not particular things. Through our intellect we grasp and comprehend universals, not particulars, and our will carries out decisions made by our intellect. For example, we see (perceive) a picture of Nelson Mandela (particular), we ponder (intellect) injustice (universal) done to political prisoners, and we donate (will) to Amnesty International.
How can a concept be instantiated in matter? Well, it can't. Concepts (universals) are not particulars. Therefore concepts cannot be instantiated as a particular in brain tissue or as a particular in any material substrate, such as a brain state. Therefore intellect and will (as well as universals) are immaterial."
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/01/aristotle_on_th093021.html
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/01/free_will_is_re092741.html
>>75688295
Christian intellectuals make this argument a lot recently. However just because you can make an intelligent argument for some divine spiritual force that exists within or beyond our visible reality, that doesn't make Christianity "the religion" to be worshiped. How do we know Jews aren't right? Or Muslims? Or Hindus? There are other religions too. How are they not right?
Personally I consider myself to be a panentheist, meaning I believe in a God or some divine spirit that is intertwined or represented by the physical world but also that transcends and exists beyond it to a point that we cannot comprehend.
>>75692727
So other Christians a response to this?
>>/x/
Piss off there and fucking stay there, you stupid cunts.
>>75687840
I don't believe in any earthly religion. I believe in the possibility of a god, and hope that if there is one he is benevolent. I also agree with alot of what Hoshua(Jesus's real name) said in the sermon on the mount as the first widespread humanitarian philosophy.
If I as a good person get to heaven and Jehovah and Hoshua are standing at the pearly gates and tell me my name isn't in the book of life and I shall burn in the depths of hell until the end of times when hell is thrown into the sulfur pit and extinguished because I denied the sanctity of christ the father and the holy spirit, then I'd probably sign up for demon conversion the moment I got to hell.
Hello /Christian/, I haven't been to church in a very long time. I grew up mainly going to Baptist and nondenominational churches. I never really liked going to these types of churches. I was thinking about trying out Catholicism and maybe some more high church type Protestant denominations. Can anyone recommend anything?
>>75687840
Oh man when humans figure out the I was man-made from them not me creating them. They are going to go nuts.
I always like Christian threads. It's not saying much, but the level of discussion and civility is probably the best on /pol/.
>>75692727
I don't have the time atm to watch that first video, mind telling me what it's about?
>>75693052
>>75693116
If I'm understanding you correctly, he was trying to argue that the nature of concepts means that there must be more to life that the material?
>>75693153
I wasn't trying to prove Christianity to be true there, just that there is something beyond the physical world.
I'm personally going to a Charismatic non-dom and I enjoy it so I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I would recommend just going to mass one day and seeing what's what. I assume there are Catholic churches nearby?
>>75691473
I dunno, anon. You make a good point. As much as I know inherently that nudism presents potential lust, I feel drawn to it. Do you think it's one big delusion?
>>75693707
Maybe some other time then. I plan to post it again in another Christ thread.
>>75693467
This especially.
Through all the shitposting it really puts our knowledge of communications, debating, and discussion to the test.
>>75693356
Yeah, try more protestant types. Assembly of God maybe. It's not radically different than Baptist. But please don't start going to Catholic churches. All those hymns and works based style teaching is not good.
>>75690796
Well that's the only Church, the rest are just roleplayers.
The orthodox Church as the first one and the only Apostolic one - declared the other churches heretic and anathematized them.
>>75689024
You are going to hell and I am making sure of that.
http://www.heavenvisit.net/
I don't mean to scare anyone. So if you are not this double crossing kind of bitch, don't.
>>75693803
Well sin, especially lust, is by its own nature very tempatious. It will draw you in, masquerading as something nice, when really it is disgusting. The book of Leviticus describes the procedures that should be taken if someone gets Leprosy. They are to be removed and quarantined and all sorts. But the point is that the way those boils and sores on our skin look disgusting to us, that's how God see's sin when it's on our souls. Think of it like this: imagine your were to die suddenly, rapture happens right now, and you're standing before God. Can you really justify what you were doing. So if you're in the nude, and happen to be staring at a woman, and then BAM suddenly you're standing before God, do you think you can convince Him that what you were doing was a-OK?
>>75693816
Yeah sure. I've got an exam tmr that I need to study for..
>>75694296
So are you saying that non-Orthodox denominations are illegitimate and not even part of Christ's catholic Church?
>>75687840
Why Catholics believe that the death of Jesus Christ wasn't enough to clean the sin of humanity? Isn't that like saying "Jesus wasn't powerful enough"? I think that they are the first to blaspheme
>>75693356
Catholicism is indeed the answer, anon
>>75693356
Also avoid protestant churches, they are heretical. Only choose among those that have apostolic succession, like catholic and orthodox ones. If yu want kind of a "middle-way" between protestantism and catholicism I would suggest anglican churches
May the Lord protect you brethren .
>>75694637
Do you kiss your daily muslim feet, Catholic-cuck?
>>75694637
Our Lady ha ha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCr1bsOaS2I
I know it's somewhat unrelated but, is there a name for shirts/vests with this modified cross symbol on them? I've seen them a few times around the place, but can't find anything online.
May the Lord bless all of you, fellow Christians.
>>75694526
No, his power levels were just too low the first time around. After 2000 years training in heaven he's ready to do the real deal now.
Brother Dean has been putting up a great job, I would be really proud to be his friend. People are incredibly dumb and violent these days, I know a Christian has to deal with people who are just plain wrong everyday.
There was a video of Brother Dean putting Muslims in their place, there were the famous "YOU DESERVE RAPE" signs to all the sluts and sinners who get raped in this sick society they have made sure to build.
His work, as far as I have seen, is absolutely amazing and useful. If I could say something to him I would say "keep up the good work, brother." and "don't stop improving this great task God has given you". Narcissism is on the rise, people live in an age of abundance, they don't have a sense of guilt, of mistakes, which relates with the orbito-frontal lobe. People are lazy and effortless, their fore-fathers would rage in their graves. People think like a pack of thieves these days, they have run out of resources and they are thirsty for all God's Man possessions. Their passion, hedonism, knows no bounds.
We as Christians should go back to Theology, to militia, to academia, the Earth is our planet, not the Devil's. We should have our imageboard, we should apply Justice to all that is evil and impure. Pagans have low intelligence, and yet incredibly confident, we all know that, so let's put them in their place. We should expand our sense of property, your house doesn't end at the door or the street, home is all around you. Public property is YOURS, we should take it with all our might and put the skills we develop with our daily repentance to use to please God. Let us persecute Pornography, Anti-Social behavior and thought, stupidity, and the devil. This is not a time to be defensive, if you are being defensive you don't know how bad it is, you are denying the Lord. Let us pray daily, so GOD will clear this Earth so that we can raise our boys. Let us take the next step, let us go beyond what feminists expect of our puny selves. God will help us.
>>75695031
what's your point?
>>75694984
how Christian of you, to insult me like this.
>>75695363
Brother Dean is fun to watch yes. But he commite alot of offense to God in each video.
>>75689439
>have an actual discussion
>"It's metaphysical bro, you can't understand it if Jesus didn't touch your soul. Arguments based on facts are overrated"
>>75695564
I know, that is why I said "don't stop improving this great task God has given you"
>>75695363
Brother Dean, like from University of Arizona? I actually go there. I've seen a couple of his 'sermons'. There's actually a group of about 5 evangelicals which preach on the mall. They pretty frequently draw a crowd, sometimes people get angry and shove them around. It's neat how well they take it. I would not have had his persistence.
>>75694445
>So are you saying that non-Orthodox denominations are illegitimate and not even part of Christ's catholic Church?
Yes, this is the position of Church - not my personal opinion.
Church pretty much interdicts having theological discussions with members of cults, reading their books or praying with them.
>>75693348
Hell isn't like supernatural says it is
>>75695363
>persecute Pornography
But how would you classify this as bad in the light of the great commandment?
>>75694445
>So if you're in the nude, and happen to be staring at a woman, and then BAM suddenly you're standing before God, do you think you can convince Him that what you were doing was a-OK?
Kek
>>75694445
N-no.. I don't think God would be pleased at all..
I guess that puts things into perspective. I feel guilty for lending my eyes to blogs about nudism and even porn. It's hard to stop. But.. I'll try not to go back there again. Thanks, fellow Christbro.
>>75695892
Adultery.
>>75695812
I really dislike LARPers on /pol/
>>75696007
It's good to read into these things and gain more wisdom, however I would strongly recommend you make an effort to avoid actually seeing the content of porn/nudism. These things have a tendency of messing with your mind. Block these websites if you need to.
>>75695824
It's actually quite interesting. Many people think Hell is where the devil reigns, but really, Hell is just the place absent of God's presence.
>>75695812
>>75695812
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>>75694445
>do you think you can convince Him that what you were doing was a-OK?
Yes. What gains focus in what you say is this sort of feeling. If you would look at some heathens of which the Bible says they are saved because they live the commandment out of a right mind. Their culture would be different: they don't have this feeling basically.
God created us. So the situation, that focuses on some sort of feeling mainly is different. Like as something that anyone made or that is very known. There is not that kind of speciality. It is neutral. Like was-just-eating or whatever else.
>>75696188
>>75696290
>>75696382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFE3ca7OYrk
^ yet when Pope asks orthodox Patriarch to bless him - the patriarch refuses, and starts to kiss Pope in a sign of submission and respect, the Pope insists but the Patriarch refuses to do that blasphemy.
>>75687840
Christ is risen!
>>75696533
>yet when Pope asks orthodox Patriarch to bless him - the patriarch refuses, and starts to kiss Pope in a sign of submission and respect, the Pope insists but the Patriarch refuses to do that blasphemy.
What is your point?
>>75694445
How would you reply to this?
>>75696428
>>75696027
Ok, so you would say that if one of a marriage does something with someone else and there is a consent between the married couple this is adultery? And it is also sure that it is not going to cause some other problem.
>>75695511
My point is here>>75692727
mainly
Ave Maria from Flanders
>>75696787
I don't see any point being made there, you'll have to be more specific
>>75696288
Thank you. I know I'm carrying on and on, but would you believe me if I told you that I've known the answer to that for years? It's just that over time, so many delusions and false teaching has made even the most radical things sound appealing. I hope God can forgive me for it.
Anon, I'm really sorry but what do you think about bdsm? Masturbation?
>>75696804
>>75696288
I don't know where that myth comes from. The devil got his ass kicked and will burn forever in hell. Never once does it say the devil or demons rule there.
>>75696288
>Hell is just the place absent of God's presence.
Wrong. There is no place absent of God's presence.
>>75696288
>Hell is where the devil reigns
In hell we don't have the protection of God, so demons can hurt us there. They didn't choose to be there either though
Post your church, brothers and sisters.
And one of the verses from the Holy Bible that moves you just now.
Pic is my church interior; It's very old. I'm thinking right now about Phillipians 4:10-13 (Thanks for their gifts)
>10 I rejoiced greatly in the Lord that at last you renewed your concern for me. Indeed, you were concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it.
>11 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances.
>12 I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.
>13 I can do all this through him who gives me strength.
It brings back memories of when I lost everything and was homeless and hungry, and the Lord helped me. Now life is better. And I can help others - at a food bank and after service on Sunday.
God bless, mates. And peace to you all.
>>75696428
I know that we are mad righteous before God because of Jesus, but that still doesn't make it ok to sin. I know that people sin, but it's a good idea to keep in mind so that we can make the best efforts to avoid sin and not put ourselves in a position that we might sin.
>>75696991
Stuff happens I guess. Pop culture goes where it pleases. Either that or the Devil did it, which is certainly possible. Could ask, why do so many people these days think that by being a good enough person you can earn your way into heaven? Kek it's like Westerners have conditioned themselves for Islam.
>>75697133
Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. Demons are fallen angels, so while they didn't choose to be there, they did choose to rebel.
>>75697082
No place on Heaven or on Earth. But Hell is simply a place where God is not.
>>75697322
>But Hell is simply a place where God is not
Wrong again, God is everywhere.
>>75697322
>Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. Demons are fallen angels, so while they didn't choose to be there, they did choose to rebel.
I suggest the visions of St.Faustina Kowalska about hell, purgatory and heaven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Yv3wAP84g
>>75696900
This >>75692727
It is about God being real. This being understandable. And a subject like sex is a subject like a main and central one of some others, that is seen falsely in the light of the great commandment.
>>75697688
and how does any of that relate to this exactly? >>75695031
>>75697322
No no no no no. You say it is a sin. I stated that it is not. Because of the great commandment.
So my question is: how would you see this as a sin while the great commandment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CNcghaW14
>>75697666
>666
>that video
anon....why you trying to spook me like this??
>>75697970
Lust is a sin. Jesus himself said so. The greatest commandment is to love. Looking at a woman lustfully is not loving her/respecting her as the child of God she is.
I want to believe, I really do, in fact I wish I could. It is not possible. I grew up with out religion in a secular home. We didn't denigrate religion, it was just not a part of my life and now it seems silly to me. I cannot believe it because I cannot prove it. I wish I could find the community that religion has. I have thought of just starting to go to church just for that, but I feel like I would be a lying piece of shit, if I went, and did not believe and pretended to. How do I find religion guys, pls help.
>>75697970
sex outside wedlock is sterile and selfish. It is definitely a sin.
>>75698091
>anon....why you trying to spook me like this??
kek. You can look up the description of heaven and purgatory too. That might un-spook you.
>>75697133
Hell is to to be cut off from God.
It's not like the medieval concept of eternal hellfire.
God would not condemn a sinner (as we all are) to damnation.
God offers hope and forgiveness.
God gives us free will to choose between light and darkness.
It is a great gift and can also be a burden. Which is why Christ guides us and teaches us how to live.
Pic is my church from the exterior. I posted the interior in >>75697291
Please post your churches. I love church architecture.
>>75698095
Read The Brothers Karamazov. It had a big impact on me.
A religion that promises that the meek will inherit the Earth is a religion based around a lie
>>75698095
Anon, you don't have to believe in a specific God to be considered a religious person.
Being able uphold the principles and morals of the actual religion itself makes your more of whole human being. Just believing in God is a very small part. It's what you do with the love of God that matters.
Right. Simple.
This: >>75692727
And this discussion: >>75694445
>>75696428 >>75695363(porn)
It can never ever be a sin because not only the great commandment doesn't exact one specific thing. It is only about not being an unacceptable damage to others or God.
So how would this still be a sin according to you?
>>75698262
>God would not condemn a sinner (as we all are) to damnation.
We send ourselves there ultimately. His judgement is what condemns us though.
>God offers hope and forgiveness.
Yes, but not everyone is forgiven
>>75698262
>Hell is to to be cut off from God.
No one can be cut off from God, that's an old Latin myth. To say so is to deny the divinity of Christ and the power of His resurrection.
>christian board
listen up you chuckle fucks. /pol/ isn't christian in the slightest.
>pro-capitalism
See Matthew 6:24 and Matthew 9:24 respectively.
>/pol/ is ethnonationalist in nature
See Acts 10: 34-35, galatians 3:28, colossians 3:11
>/pol/ is full of sanctimonious exclusionary hypocrites
The entireity of matthew 23 would be suitable reading for this.
Fuck off. /pol/ isn't christian in the manner most western nations aren't anymore. They'll do it lipservice when they ass themselves out of bed to get their sacraments and then go right back to sinning and shitposting on a Taiwanese chalk drawing forum about black bulls despoiling blonde aryan pussy.
>>75698348
It's true tho - but it talks about another earth not this one - the paradise which Adam lost.
This world is of satan influence until second coming, when it will be restorted anew - trough fire - but in a new form not dense matter, rather spiritualized matter.
>>75698729
Western countries are hyper-christian
That IS the problem
the values /pol/ fights against are christian in nature
>>75698638
Granted. I'll rephrase it.
>Hell is to deny God.
>>75698496
Jesus literally said lust was a sin. Like nearly word for word.
>>75698968
I can get on board with this. It's like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. If you make it clear enough that you want nothing to do with God, He will honour your desires, He loves us that much.
>>75698729
It would seem that you just prove our point that the ayythiest faggots from leddit cannot into civil conversation and discussion whatsoever.
You see that people are talking about religion and you start to fume and then you go on a tyraid blah blah blah waaaah
Go keep tipping your fedora faggot stay out of OUR /pol/
I started going to a Baptist Church recently, and the pastor is pretty based.
>talks about the March of Islam
>degeneracy
>etc
And I had a meeting with him recently and discussed being dunked(baptisted).
What are your guys experience with Baptist denominations? So far they seem like nice people... Anything I should be wary about?
>>75698915
That is what I mean, and that is why Christianity is so destructive. It makes earthly, civilizational concerns of survival, the very root of the Right, pointless, by promising an utopia after death
Which makes Christianity into an useless religion for the Right at best, or an active hindrance at worst
/pol/ is an anti-christian board by definition, because we reject utopias, and glorify strenght and assertiveness instead of meekness and concessions
>>75690796
Their (bearded) priests can marry, only their (bearded) monks can be bishop and they place a great emphasis on spiritual life : hesechia, theosis, etc
Also you have two of their patriarchates in your country, kek
>>75698729
>western nations aren't anymore
At least: whats important is nations with a healthy and not irrealistic spiritual house. Whoever is not interested?
>>75698438
But anon what does the love of god mean when I cannot find it in myself to believe god is real, or that the concept of god is real. I have moral principles with out religion, but I find I mostly line up with christianity which most of us in the west do I imagine. What bothers me is know friends that believe, they know there is a god and that he is there to help us. They are genuine happy people that have great friends and a church community that I honestly envy. All because they share this faith and belief in god. I have been invited to join them in this but it makes me uncomfortable as I don't believe and he knows it. I guess at least I have the integrity not to lie about it.
>>75699095
>Jesus literally said lust was a sin. Like nearly word for word.
What exact text are you thinking of?
Since God is the creator it is impossible that he would create us with wants that can't be fulfilled at this level. This has nothing to do with destruction. So some lust of murder or violence is in no way a comparison.
>>75699095
>If you make it clear enough that you want nothing to do with God, He will honour your desires
God will never abandon you. He will always love you, but depending on the state of your soul, that love either feels like paradise, or it it feels like hell.
>>75699100
>It would seem that you just prove our point that the ayythiest faggots from leddit cannot into civil conversation and discussion whatsoever.
>You see that people are talking about religion and you start to fume and then you go on a tyraid blah blah blah waaaah
>Go keep tipping your fedora faggot stay out of OUR /pol/
If anything you proved MY point about being exclusionary and sanctimonious, pharisee.
/pol/ isn't religious in the slightest. Don't stand on your """"morals"""" and pontificate to me. We call each other faggot, nigger and all other assorted hateful names.
We conduct ourselves without pity, laughing at the hardship of others. We joke about harming others, and can't wait to post about bad shit. we post porn and gore and other senseless, tasteless sinful material.
Its all a pretense for you. A safety blanket to which we cling.
If you're going to roll around in shit like a pig, at least own up to it.
>>75699256
Maybe you should start out by reading the bible and starting at the right end of the spectrum?
>>75699404
The Sermon of the Mount makes it clear that Jesus sees the word and its desires as an evil temptation to be rejected and whoever suffers is the most sacred one
>>75699188
The majority of western civilization, it would seem.
Being a true apostle of christ would mean that you would have to tear yourself away from shitposting.
God is le sky daddy. But the culture of Christianity somehow doesn't show that. His existence is proven. And next to that, seeing that documentary about Dee and Kelly at least it is clear that this lies in an initiative from man.
>>75699587
Do you have any male friends? Or were you raised by a single mother? Because that's the only way I could think why you can't recognize lads being lads.
This is a male space. Pussies may not apply.
>>75699629
I have read the King James Version.
>>75699481
This. The point is to change you.
>>75699256
The concept of God IS real.
But not in the way you think.
It's really hard to explain without getting all hippy dippy about it.
Read a bit into the bible and look for literary themes that talk about Christianity and what it's about. Basically, through discipline and devotion to other people, you can make yourself whole and happy. That's what the platform is atleast.
>>75699587
>Not denying he's a redditfag
Yeah yeah, we all know how high and mighty and intellectual you are. Go back to spamming the catalogue with "Really makes you think" threads, kiddo.
>>75699164
You're in Canada so you should be fine. Just make sure that they are still talking a lot about Jesus, and the other stuff isn't taking too much time.
>>75699404
Matthew 5:28 (ESV)
"But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
>>75699256
The fact that this is something you envy shows that your soul has a yearning for God, maybe you just have too much pride to say it to yourself. That's one of the philosophical arguments for God's existence, the argument from want. The basic idea is we know God exists because we all want to find God, in the same way an infant knows food exists because it experiences hunger.
>>75700114
> inb4 Jesus didn't mean absolutely anything or what he said
>>75698095
It starts at home, in other words, it starts with you and only you. Don't go out looking for like minded people. You'll meet those people when the time is right, and you'll know when the time is right to do so.
First thing first, I suggest you research prayer. Pro tip: you don't have to close your eyes or kneel down to pray.
Clear your mind. Look/study your actions and interactions. Change what you think is cancerous. Cut it out.
You're officially a seeker. Don't put labels on yourself. Never say I'm this and I'm that etc...Just keep beating your own path.
Others can add to these
>>75699825
Your argument essentially boils down to
>b-but its our board culture!
The way we conduct ourselves here is counter to anything Jesus or his apostles would have acted.
The again, pigs are always used to the smell of sty, so it really doesn't matter.
>>75700025
>Yeah yeah, we all know how high and mighty and intellectual you are. Go back to spamming the catalogue with "Really makes you think" threads, kiddo.
>muh christianity is devoid of higher thought
Drop the tripcode and I will, newfriend :^)
>>75699629
is there anything wrong with reading the NLT? it really clears up some of the hard meaning especially in the OT.
>>75700114
Thanks Britbro
>>75699367
I've started with the point explained - the catholic church is anathematized and declared heretical - that was my point, then you asked me what was my point ... so I thought you just didn't understand and want to ask that forever.
>>75699633
>Jesus sees the word and its desires
The wor L d , a bit confusing maybe.
No. I think you mean the text about ...If your eye tempts you ... ?
- So first of all being a well informed person, how unlivable or livable would YOU set this standard? It can work individually
- Christ brings in some sort of reality. The example he gives has some sort of prejudice. It is known and in the Bible. So to say this: some times a look can have an effect. Now it would be more in a direction of aggression. That sort of situation can be heard or seen sometimes.
- Some other thing could be the Bible as a book and its contents.
>>75700483
I feel like a dick tho - telling a guy who was born in catholic country, inside the tradition and never knew anything except Catholicism that his religion is heretical - but it's the truth, and what use there is for the truth if we keep it hidden?
It's not my opinion, it took me time to get rid of my ecumenical views - but canons and writings left by virtuous saints clearly state that..
>>75700195
What?
>tfw no wife to have pure unprotected missionary sex with every night
>>75700283
My argument is, your autistic enough to consider edgy humor as "rolling around in the filth" and using the word "pigs", completely un-ironically.
That is my argument. Don't take advice from spergs.
>>75700283
>My viewpoint is different therefore I am superior to you
Such is the way of reddit.
>>75700025
>>75700154
>>75700263
Thanks much guys. I really do need to do a lot of soul searching one way or another.
>>75700746
I didn't know this was a feels thread
>>75687840
>posting on pol
>worshiping a jew
>>75701160
>>75700950
That's very good of you, Anon. You give me hope knowing that there are people like you looking for a good path of happiness and virtue.
Goodluck, (Also, I'd start at somewhere like a church or something. Just pop on by at a local christian church just to see what it's about).
>>75698091
This is undeniable: lust is not a sin unless there is a reason. Violence is different from erotic lust. And it works a lot different. Violence is not a problem or issue.
I am not focussion on this, it is just an important central example of some other things.
How would lust be a bad thing to others or God?
>>75701465
I have thought about going to a Catholic church, but I worry about the church having lost it's way. This new Pope does not seem to represent the religion. I also wonder if Catholics and other clergy feel the same way. Any advice here?
>>75701266
Nope.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18733/
Not that you care about/can even comprehend empirical evidence.
>>75702364
>Not that you care about/can even comprehend empirical evidence.
And why do you say that?
Is it ok for your daughter to get blacked as long as the black guy is a Christian?
>>75701873
Go to a different denomination.
>>75702511
Yes, Christ's love extends beyond racial lines.
>>75702511
If they're a good christian I don't see the problem.
Key word being "good", which not many people of any race generally are.
>>75702511
No, it's still a selfish thing to do and she obviously isn't considering anyone other than herself if she does so.
Honour thy father and mother.
>>75698091
>>75701850
>Looking at a woman lustfully is not loving her/respecting her as the child of God she is.
This stands really weak. You would put this up as a reason. While it is something -As Paul says: ,, Sin common to man ''. it is something that belongs under such a title.
How is this THAT different from any other comparable thing. Or in it's solution? Mostly if there is anything these things are socially being taken care of. As an example: all are thankful to someone if something good is done. And special attention. And maybe this is different. But it in no way excludes respect.
True or not?
>>75702500
You're a mindless twit who parrots propaganda to perform contortions to attempt to justify letting your entire reality be formed by the jew, while interloping on this site where people are waking up.
You're not even smart enough to comprehend that when Jesus was discussing those Jews in those passages, he was literally discussing those exactly people in that fucking room.
You've probably never even read it.
You just pick a feel and hold on. It's very clear.
>>75702511
Well first off, that pic isn't Christian.
And second off, marriage is about consideration of how compatible and for will of God a couple is.
Why would anybody trying to follow the will of God, try to marry into a culturally incompatible couple who's childern will be confused as to who they related to?
Sounds more like thinking with your dick.
>>75702936
you sound pretty upset about something
>>75701873
Catholics alike hate the Pope, he's a commie. But the faith still remains in tact.
I'm and Italian Catholic and even I don't like the pope.
But yeah, just experiment around with different religions if you're doing a bit of soul searching. Hell, it doesn't even have to branch from Christianity you can try all sorts of things.
Just don't try being a Muslim.
Check out the different religions to get a better viewpoint.
>>75702893
>>75699776
I think this sort of things aren't as discussable right away. Anyway, true or not what I said?
>>75687840
God, why are Jews superior to everyone else?
>>75705170
They're not. Fortunately for us, they rejected that position. The Jews of those days were like the happeningfags we have here today. They wanted Jesus to show up with thunder and lightning, and help them destroy the Romans etc...but that Jesus was born in a barn. They said nah that's not him...
Is masturbating to monster girls sinful?
It's not technically looking at an actual woman with lust on your heart right??
Hey guys. A friend of mine recently invited me to go to church with him. He's a Lutheran, and I have no idea what that means. Can anyone explain what they believe or what?
>>75705942
How can Jesus be the moshiach if his father was a goyim Roman Centurion and he was not descended from King David?
>>75706184
That this would seriously be a question.
I don't mean to shock.
Why would the whole thing be a sin comparing it to the great commandment?
>>75706184
No
With monstergirls, the monster is on the outside.
>>75706184
You could have more then one partner not being married to and it wouldn't be sinful. Sooner: being confined to this lonely mess is sinful.
>>75706292
Why would you be an atheist?
>>75707168
>>75707291
Hm yes this looks pretty nasty. I posted here this:>>75692727. And other things.
What idea can you have that the whole thing would go in a better direction?
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
>>75707901
>1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Right. How would be abstaining from things that have to do with erotisism be defiling compared to not doing it? While someone that is saved only by a right mind, as the Bible mentions heathens that partake because of this, would just do this.
Do you have a stable and valid answer to this?
>>75708601
I don't understand what you are asking. Could you please reword your question for me?
>>75709052
I think it is ok. Saying not understanding it is a known way of evading.
>>75709052
So how would something like fapping be defiling?
