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Paganism is the way to go. Is there any reason you haven't
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Paganism is the way to go.
Is there any reason you haven't switched to the faith of Odin, /pol/?
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>>75591361

>Is there any reason you haven't switched to the faith of Odin, /pol/?

Because I'm an atheist.

But The West would be better off discarding Christianity. It has become degenerate and has lead everyone into weakness and slave morality that is killing Western Civilization. The old gods are needed.
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>>75591361
We don't missionize, you know...
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>>75591361
I love norse mythology and more or less grew up with it, but I don't believe in it.

That being said, I've always felt a connection to my country, my history and its mythology. As a kid, I spent a lot of time hiking and playing in the mountains and forests around my city, and the summers were spent traveling the western coast of Norway by boat. It's hard to explain, but I've always felt a kind of ancestral, mystical connection to my country that I can't put into words. I don't actually believe in spirituality, though, so I feel like an idiot typing this out.
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>>75591361
there is only kek
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>>75592561
Maybe you are just feeling a connection to nature. I sort of feel the same way when I go on a long hike in the Appalachian hills.
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>>75592561
I'm from Denmark (here in the U.S. studying abroad) and I know how you feel. I felt a deep connection to my fellow Danes and fellow Norsemen, and I inherited a ton of Old Norse runes from my Grandfather when he died. I decided to wear a Tyr tune around my neck one day. I felt a deep connection to the old gods and had a dream where I met Tyr. It may sound like spiritual bullshit, but since then, I've began to believe in the Old Gods and I wear the rune of Tyr around my neck every day under my shirt.
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Because modern Paganism is a farce.
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>>75592920
Maybe. But it's also a strong feeling of being connected to the people who were here before me, and I felt this even as a kid, long before I had any concept of what it could mean. It's as much a cultural connection as it is natural.
But yeah, it's an emotional state, so it's not really something that can be explained.
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Thor was a drag queen.
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>>75591361
I'm more of a Thor's man.
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>>75593242
Just as a ruse, so he could knock Trym's head off after Mjolnir was stolen.

They should go with that storyline in those shitty Thor comics, after the female wannabe Thor stole the real Thor's hammer.
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Not my actual pendant, but I have this as a necklace. Left it at a friend's house.
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>>75591361

Cuz its for weirdos.
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>>75591361
because I'm brown and that would make me some kind of poser
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>>75591361
you are a damn American and thus should not be a part of Aser worship. Jesus and other middle eastern religions is what your forefathers practiced.

Act like it mutt
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>>75593860
Read >>75593047 , cunt
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It's not even true paganism. It's self-aggrandizing wrapped up in a bit of folkish dressing.
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>>75593935
hvis du er fra Denmark saa bevis det. Sae holder jeg op med at harcelerer dig min lille ven.
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>>75591361
Do you believe in magic?
Do you believe omans in nature?
Do you human sacrifice?

if yes congrats you are insane in current year and a pagan
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I actually used to wear a thor's hammer necklace until one day I realized what a dickhead I was being.
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>>75594044
Jeg er fra Horsens
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>>75591361
>paganism
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>>75594217
I kinda get where you're coming from. It's impossible to revive a system of beliefs that has been dead for 900 years. On top of that, Norway has been catholic and protestant since then, and we also have a very rich mythology not based in Åsatru.
To me, the connection is more to my country and its entire history, rather than just the viking age itself.
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>>75594217
Same.
Did you ever look into the Odin brotherhood? I ended up reading all their stuff that was printed for me while in the psych ward. It was a pretty clear sign
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>>75595138
you sound like a common nationalist. You feel a kinship with your people and land. That is good Norgebro.
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>>75595138
Not dead, just sleeping. Best candidate for religious revival there is.

I pray for electrical grid wipeout so the cleansing can begin and the gods can fully return
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>>75595138
>To me, the connection is more to my country and its entire history.
This pretty much, I wanted to wear something fairly inconspicuous that had strong connections to my heritage, unfortunately I did not immediately realize that thunors hammer is pretty much the fedora of jewellery.
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>>75595138
The people of northern Europe have no business worshiping a dead Jew.
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>>75591361

Some of us already are.
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What constitutes Paganism to you, /pol/?
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>>75591361

Because it is meme tier shit pushed by Jews to undermine the Christian West.
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Yeah I'm not a massive faggot.
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>>75591361
I don't unironically LARP.
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>>75597632
You're describing Christianity.
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>>75592662
This.

Kek and the Memetic Pantheon will encompass and replace all old religion

KEK WILLS IT
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>>75597608
Believing in the deities of the majority of your genetic heritage, honoring your forefathers by acting heroically in this life even without promise of reward
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If you're going to become an Odinist, you need to have a physique where you can wear something like this and have it not over power you. Skinny fats need not apply.
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>prey to odin
>debt eliminated, thank odin
>pray to odin
>get 3 computers worth 4000 dollars, thank odin
>pray to odin
>get gf, thank odin
>pray to odin
>get 700 sqft apartment in the fucking dead center of town, thank odin

you don't even have to be humble about it, just thank him plenty he knows you love him, toast a drink in his name and his son's every now and then, and tell him he's da man and do fonz gesture at the sky

it fucking works
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>>75598033
What sorts of pantheons were the Anglos, Swiss, and Germans into?
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>tfw only into paganism because degenerate metalfag
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>>75600075
>Show a fat person enjoying X
>X is BTFO FOR ALL TIME!
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>>75600348
I was actually being serious though

some of us know how to poke fun at ourselves
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REPENT OR ELSE
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>>75598033
What most people call "Norse" mythology was really Teutonic mythology. And it's not like the entire Norse pantheon was worshiped all at once everywhere. Certain regions or even villages would have a few or even one god/gods that they mostly appealed to, although the others may be given the occasional prayer for certain occasions.

Freyr for example was mostly a western phenomenon, as were the other Vanir. Thor was worshipped widely, Tyr was probably originally the universal Jupiter figure in Northern Europe before his role was shifted to Odin during the Viking age.

"Gods and Myths of Northern Europe" by HR Ellis Davidson is a good academic accounting of this sort of thing.
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Tengri > Odin
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>>75600515
>>75599589
Meant for your post
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Being true to friends and family, being loyal, honest, brave, and to generaly act as though you are descended from the Gods (whomever they may be) is a truer lifestyle than most christians. Most people are too soft to truly embrace a warrior lifestyle, but that doesnt mean they cant follow the Nine Noble Virtues. Be well, be safe, and be true to you and yours.
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>>75600570
neat
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>>75600434
You sound far too emotionally healthy to be on this board
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>>75599589
The Anglos, Germans, Irish, and Scandinavians all worshiped the same gods, though the names changed slightly with the location.

I think the Swiss worshiped Moradin as they collected gold in their mountain caves.
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I honestly don't understand the pagan worshipers

I can understand someone LARPing as a pagan worshiper, but I cannot understand how someone who was not raised from birth as a pagan can possibly actually believe in paganism.

Perhaps I'm not making this a clear point. Like, I can imagine someone wanting to worship something badass like Odin and Thor because it's tied to our germanic ancestors and all that. But I have a hard time believing someone ACTUALLY BELIEVES in odin and thor rather than just playing along because >muh germanic ancestors.
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>>75601853
A lot of pagans today who aren't just larpers are free thinking people, they know it's a choice and not necessarily a transcendant revelation

I honestly think today that many of them simply do it to show respect for their ancestors, instead of falling in with the religion that relatively recently invaded and transformed their homeland
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>>75600515
>Teutonic mythology
Not sure if you're really dumb or just a heritagefag.
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>>75601853
That's called doing the part of catholicism that weren't kike inspired.
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>>75601816
>The Anglos, Germans, Irish, and Scandinavians all worshiped the same gods
>Irish
Not sure if you're really dumb or just a heritagefag
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>>75601853
It's no different from believing that the politicians you vote for are actually going to do what they say they will.

You know it's probably not true, but you do it anyway.

Yes, that includes Trump.
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>>75599589
Germanic peoples generally had their own versions of the Norse gods you're familiar with. Anglo-Saxon Thunor = Continental Donar = Norse Thor. Anglo-Saxon Woten = Continental Wotan = Norse Odin.
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paganism is for teenagers and people going through mid-life crisis

especially the nordic sort
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>>75591361
"Paganism is the way to go."

I completely agree. Paganism is the way to go...

*to hell*
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>>75602305
Would you prefer "Germanic" or "Indigenous European"?

I already said it's not like they all worshipped the exact same pantheon in full by a standardized set of names, but it was a tradition that radiated outwards in intensity from roughly northern Germany outwards
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>>75593071
That guy has as much to do with paganism as Crowley does with fucking Satanism.
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Praise tengri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
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>>75597825
Order out of chaos, life from death and light from darkness. KEK will bring the new dawn in a maelstrom of dark fury. Praise kek.
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>>75602281
Personally, i believe that the universe is mental in nature. Different religions act as a lense to focus the light through, into a spectrum that rings the bell in your soul. The lense of odinism, and paganism gives me the best eyesight. So to speak. Different glasses for different people, and mankind is way too wrapped up in what prescription glasses are needed.
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Keep buying the "pagan" meme you autists.
Meanwhile we Christians will get jobs and have actual white families.
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>>75602766
Well said, I agree
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>>75602809
Haha graduate from a job and come to my farm level.

Also married with a child.

Come home white man
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>>75602457
>>75602281

Okay, but that's what I mean by LARPing. Like the jews I know that don't believe in god but still do the yom kippur passover bullshit. They're just LARPing as religious jews and don't actually believe it.
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>>75602923
Well an anon said it on the internet while LARPing a made-up religion, there's no way he's bull-shitting.
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>>75591361
The medieval Scandinavian people gave it up for Christianity, and they grew up with it. I'm inclined to believe they knew their shit more than these neo-pagan kids on /pol/.
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>>75603044
NO DONT U SEE IT WUZ FORCED ON THEM
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>>75602980
Eh, disdain for unquestioning belief is what brings most people to paganism in the first place
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>>75603044
Very few northern Europeans converted without a sword to their neck.
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>>75603080
>>75603170
Then clearly Jesus has out-Odin'd Odin, lol.
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>>75603144
>Eh, disdain for unquestioning belief is what brings most people to paganism in the first place

That's why it's not a religion. That's why everyone calls you LARPers. None of you believe in anything, you LARP.
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>>75603024
Well I do clean up a lot of bull shit
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>>75591361

I have a bunch of Thor's hammer trinkets for my RenFest costumes
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>>75591361
Worshipping any god is retarded but the old gods have important cultural value and intrest in them is only positive.
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>>75603170
Not true. Christian Missionaries converted the kings/ chieftains of pagan tribes, and the people followed in their footsteps. That's how religion worked in that day and age. The sword saw little use, and when it *did* see use it was against a violent foe, as Charlemagne did with the Saxons.
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>>75603384
>Christians actually believe this
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>>75603281
What culture? There has been no "pagan" culture in over 900 years. You can't resurrect a dead religion. European culture IS Christian. Deal with it.
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>>75603451
Yes, we actually believe verifiable history.
You're a living meme.
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>>75603214
>None of you believe in anything

You don't need to believe in the man on the moon to have a working society. A homogeneous society based on tribal rules is all thats necessary to live happy and peaceful.
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I only praise KEK
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>>75602481
The Scandinavian peoples are Germanic. Thor/Odin, Donar/Wodan, however you want to call them, are Germanic gods.

Concerning Switzerland and Austria, they speak a Germanic language right now but their ancestors are probably Celtic (The celts originated from current day Austria)
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>>75603214
Well in that case I'd call the majority of Christians larpers. Many people just go to church because it's the thing to do or they like the cultural in-crowd feeling, while secretly being agnostic or even atheistic.

Sometimes I'm just larping, other precious moments I connect with the divine. It's like that in any religion.
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>>75603537

Then it isn't a RELIGION. Stop calling yourselves religious when you believe in zero gods. By believing in one god, I'm more "pagan" than you are.
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>>75603144
Religion allows for questioning belief

But pagan LARPers don't actually believing anything to question in the first place.
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>>75603670
If that's the case, yes, they are larping. But the fundamental difference between Christianity and "paganism" (except hinduism) is that it is a dead religion that no-one claimed to follow for over 900 years. And none of you actually believe in anything ancient pagans actually did.
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>>75603761
This.
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>>75591361
Because I only know that half of my DNA is purely British Isles thanks to my mother getting her DNA done. So I have no real connection to the Norse as far as I know.
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>>75591674
>degenerate and has lead everyone into weakness and slave morality that

This has literally always been Christianity, and all Abrahamic religions.
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>>75591361
>Paganism is the way to go.
No it isn't
It can teach us a lot about how to properly conducct ourselves but it is in no way somethign we should devote ourselves to
Also
>Odin
>Father of the gods
kek, I love it when Paganfags don't even understand the viking pantheon
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>>75604101
Ah the forced "all abrahamism is bad" meme.
You're the cancer that ruined the alt-right.
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My ancestors were not germanic so why would I take a germanic religion?

My ancestors were largely celtic, but any pre-Christian religion was essentially wiped out and all there is now is gay ass wiccanism with a "celtic flavor" so fuck all that gay shit.


I have my own personal spiritual system that would be meaningless and incoherent to anyone else, as should anyone.
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>>75602694
There was never any unified "pagan" religion, and there's even less of one now. It's a meme that's only popular because of some history channel TV show.
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>>75603832
As if anybody sincerely believes in the burning bush or the virgin birth. Heck, even relatively recent dogma like the assumption is patently laughable if slightly better polished.
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>>75603470
Fuck your jewish cuckold region. Our national epoch is full of old stories about the ways of old gods. They need to discovered and appreciated again.
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>>75603580
But they have germanic features such as pale skin and their nose and eyes look dy germanic


They are Celtic/germanic mix
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>>75604245
Keep worshiping your magical kike, goy.
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I'm a member of Ásatrú.

Not religious, don't care. But ever since I can remember, I've liked the stories and here it is easy to relate.

They tried to force Christianity on us in school. Boy did that backfire.
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>>75604543
>they need to be discovered and appreciated again

They have been. And all it led to was edgy faggots LARPing it up to say "fuck you, dad" to Traditional, Christian society. You're no better than Wicca.
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>>75604603
Keep LARPing yourself to hell, faggot.
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>>75604682
And you're no better than the Muslims, Christianity is the middle east's true gift to the west
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>>75603761
I actually am becoming more and more firm in my belief, especially in Tyr. If anything is my Ahura Mazda, it's him.
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>>75602305
Germanic people called themselves Teudisk which is where Deustch and Dutch are originated from.

Teudisk come himself from the old european Teutha/teuto/thiuda which mean "people" in both Celtic(Gaulish) and Germanic(Gothic) languages.
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>>75604682
>Traditional
>Christian

Boy, they really mindfucked you.
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>>75604870
In that case you have literally no reason to oppose Muslim immigration to the West. Enjoy your caliphate while we fight back.
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>>75604953
Jesus Christ, you're so delusional it's not even funny. How do you explain the last 1000 years of European history?
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>>75604958
Retard
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>>75605062
>Pagans think this is a refutation

Weaker than your faith in the gods desu
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>>75591361

Yeah, because I don't know where to start.
Just sitting on my ass and reading Sagas doesn't feel like much.
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>>75604682
The weird edgy guys here are religious people. Most people belong to church but only for tradition and ceremonies not for believing fairy tales.
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>>75605024
The gradual takeover and assumption, no pun intended, of traditional European values through violent spreading of Middle Eastern a kike cuckold slavery religion.
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>>75605171
>The weird edgy guys here are religious people.

Isn't this thread advocating for a religion?
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>>75605142
Maybe if you actually read your Jewbook you'd be able to comprehend basic post ordering.

Then again Cuckstian infighting is nothing new...
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>>75605194
What are these "traditional european values?"

Homosexuality? Promiscuity? Unrepentant degeneracy? Shit-tier, anti-traditional music? Because this is what the loudest advocates of your "religion" advocate, from Greg Johnson to Jack Donovan to Varg Vikernas.
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>>75592561
They're only 'myths' because of Christians.
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>>75591361
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>>75603697
>Stop calling yourselves religious when you believe in zero gods
>What is Buddhism? What is Taoism?
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>>75605255
Maybe but i participated because old gods should be appreciated as important part of our unique culture. Its 10 000 years old goddamnit.
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>>75605596
Your fucking flag is literally a Christian symbol.
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>>75591361
I've read some of the Icelandic sagas, scholarly books on Norse religion, and some Asatru writings. Personally I don't think that the old religions and their practice and beliefs reconstructed from the past can be applied in modern society. The local traditions and cultures of pre-Christian Europe were inseparable from their small-scale societies and ways of life in which warring and farming were essential and personal for everyone. These activities still happened and the institutions of kinship and kingship still existed for over a 1000 years after pagan religions were formally prohibited by the Church. But in a modern, secular society and with the nation state the conditions for the old local cultures are no longer existing. So with that goes the old religion and its vitality. Any kind of reconstruction seems too vain and too refined, unlike the actual religions of pre-Christian Europe. The Christian religion is universal in scope and the ideas of the Church have influenced Western Europe and the world for over a 1000 years now. We think as Christians and our sentiments are even more so, as Nietzsche pointed out. It's worth reading the history of the "dark ages" and the bloody foundations of the state. The people in European countries at that time still kept their local family traditions while fervently fighting for their Christian leaders and God. This is obviously different from our own secular, computer technological, and relatively peaceful ways of life. The old mystery Gods don't fit into this world of ours, at least in my opinion. It's always a good time when you go to a blot though.
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>>75593860
Why would that matter exactly? I want to at least get to know my ancestors religion. My grandma was from Norway and I was closer to her than any of my other relatives. Never knew my English fathers side at all only need my mothers side which was Norwegian and Italian but my grandma was a first generation she died last year at the old age of 95.
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>>75605394
You seem to be confusing your own jewish myths with our European ones.

Oh, and I'm not a pagan but European religion is far less degenerate and damaging than Cuckstianity. When you're at the point when you're quite literally worshipping a child born of interracial cuckolding then accusing others of degeneracy you seriously need to rethink your theology.
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>>75605255
Americans need a better education system. You seem a little uncivilized with 90% believing in jewish gods existance.
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>>75591361
the gods of the norse are not the gods of my people and the god that the Spaniards brought to us made us stop eating each other and gave us all sorts of nice things to us. Why would i betray the god that saved my people from barbarism for foreign idols and nature spirits that live in europe?
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>>75605800
I'm a German living in America you LARPing faggot.
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>>75605682
Yes? All nordics have this flag as tradition.
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>>75605889
You just argued that Christianity isn't part of European tradition.
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>>75604245
Remove Leviticus from that because it is from the Old Testament which we don't follow m8 but I get the idea you are trying to say.
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>>75605821
Because it replaced 'barbarism' with mewling servility.
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I don't worship the past I look back with a great deal of respect for my ancestors but I realize Christianity is superior
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>>75597753

Which is exactly why jews push paganism, atheism, islam, etc but shit on Christianity day and night. Sorry senpai, but modern pagans are all cucks. The movement has been inundated with liberals and feminists, fueled by a hatred of the West and Christianity.
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>>75605954
Oh, so you pick and choose.

Very good then I'm a Christian too.
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>>75605878
Then im a little dissapointed in you hans. You should know better.
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>>75605989
I don't think the Jews need to shit on Christianity. You're killing yourselves as it is.
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>>75606014
>>75606038

Reminder that hatred of Christ is the most jewish thing you could possibly do.
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>>75605989
In my country, the ones who rob us the most are the nationalistic church loving christians.
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>>75606014
>so you pick and choose.
No, The OT you don't follow due to the fact they are Jewish laws that are in effect until a messiah appears then they are void much like the Pork and Shellfish and Lamb Laws aka Kosher Laws too. NT is the only version of the bible to be followed by Christians.
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The only correct religion for north america is ancestor and animal spirit worship, whites are fucked to wonder the spirit world forever and never rejoin the circle of life when they die as their ancestors are not even on this continent.
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Hey Pagan Dudes

How the hell do I get started on this?
What can I do?
I tried looking up different groups, but I don't know which ones are serious and which not.

Please.
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>>75606127
No, I think quite literally worshipping a dead Jew on a stick is a tad more Jewish than rejecting said Jew.

Now go on and be a good goy. There's immigrants' feet need tending to.
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I actually met a girl on 4chan who practiced Asatru.

Seems that it's more a social gathering than anything spiritual. I guess there are very political aspects as well but you can choose to avoid them in favor of more constructive aspects.

They are a little hardcore though, she claimed to do blood letting from time to time
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>>75606280
>Dead Kike on a Stick

Does it hurt to be *this* predictable?
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>>75606338
>she claimed to do blood letting from time to time
What the fuck man?
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>>75606365
Does it hurt to be this cucked?
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>>75604525
But christians do actually believe these things.

Look man, I have no problem with LARPing. I myself am atheist but I was raised catholic and I'm going to raise my children catholic because I believe that having religion and a set of unifying morals and beliefs is beneficial to society. But I'm LARPing because I don't actually believe it. I'm just playing along. I'm not ACTUALLY christian.

But I'd say 100% of supposed pagans are just people LARPing as pagans as a way of proclaiming european identity and rebeling against organized/abrahamic religion. Nothing wrong with that, but I'm still going to say these people are LARPing when they sacrifice goats to odin.
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>>75605945
At what message? Both are part of tradition. But the old gods are not appreciated and forgotten even if they important part of our history just like christianity has been. I dont believe this nonsense but pay church taxes and go there in christmas for tradition. Priest have important ceremonial jobs in funerals and weddings even if this jewish god doesnt exist.
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How many of you guys have read any Norse "pagan" literature anyways? If you want something exciting read the Greeks instead.
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>>75606115
>The pope represents all of Christianity
You're aware that there are two fairly prominent sects which disagree, right?

>>75606236
>Spacial distances mattering in a metaphysical afterlife
Does gravity work too or are spirits just stuck floating at the fixed point in space as the earth moves around the sun? Don't you have a concept of transcendence that isn't so limited by your own physical limitations? Aren't you also separated from your Siberian ancestors dingus?
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>>75606127
I hate Christianity because of its connections with Jews.
How can that be "the most jewish thing" I can possibly do?
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>>75606449
If Christians are capable of believing in human parthenogenesis then pagans are capable of believing in giants 'n' trees 'n' shit.
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>>75606267
Take into account that most pagan groups are either weird old people or metalheads, they might not be your crowd. Choose the pagan religion you feel connected to the most and start reading about it, try to differentiate which sources come from sort of non-biased writers and completely biased writers. Seeing as it doesn't mix too well with modern society it's more on the personal level so same way christians pick what they like so can you in my opinion.
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>>75591361
Been a pagan longer than I've been a Nazi.
Kike shills are trying to give us unitarian christianity on this site as a response to islam like it's 500 years ago. Why did we give up our pagan gods to follow the kikes? Why did pagan Islam do the same?
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>>75605959
when we worshiped the old gods we were shackled to our priests and our kings and the line between the two was very blurred at times. The gods asked for blood of people in sacrifice and games for their amusement. When the castilians came and brought their god with them we became a new people. We were no longer quecha or taino or zapotec we became remade and although we are not doing as well as other places in the world the god of the christians did more for us and to us than the thousands of years the old gods had. In the christian god we freed ourselves.
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>>75606527
So you're a russiaboo or worship fanfiction. Got it.

Tell me more about how Pagans are LARPing.
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>>75605712
It's a dark night of the soul for everyone. Do the old ways fit today's scheme? No. Does that mean we need to give up the old gods? No. Even in the sagas they were destined to die and be reborn.

They can still be worshipped, it's only the setting that's changed. Their natures remain the same, and can be used by the individual independent of a true folk.
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>>75606531
It's connection to Jews?
You mean this?

Origen: “Their rejection of Jesus has resulted in their present calamity and exile. We say with confidence that they will never be restored to their former condition. For they have committed a crime of the most unhallowed kind, in conspiring against the saviour.”

St. Gregory: “ Jews are slayers of the Lord, murderers of the prophets, enemies of God, haters of God, adversaries of grace, enemies of their fathers’ faith, advocates of the devil, brood of vipers, slanderers, scoffers, men of darkened minds, leaven of the Pharisees, congregation of demons, sinners, wicked men, stoners and haters of goodness.”

St. Jerome: “....serpents, haters of all men, their image is Judas ... their psalms and prayers are the braying of donkeys..”

St. John Chrysostom: “I know that many people hold a high regard for the Jews and consider their way of life worthy of respect at the present time... This is why I am hurrying to pull up this fatal notion by the roots ... A place where a whore stands on display is a whorehouse. What is more, the synagogue is not only a whorehouse and a theater; it is also a den of thieves and a haunt of wild animals ... not the cave of a wild animal merely, but of an unclean wild animal ... When animals are unfit for work, they are marked for slaughter, and this is the very thing which the Jews have experienced. By making themselves unfit for work, they have become ready for slaughter. This is why Christ said: “ask for my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and slay them before me’ (Luke 19.27).”

St. Augustine: “Judaism is a corruption. Indeed Judas is the image of the Jewish people. Their understanding of the Scriptures is carnal. They bear the guilt for the death of the saviour, for through their fathers they have killed the Christ.”

St. Thomas Aquinas: “It would be licit to hold Jews, because of the crimes, in perpetual servitude..."
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>>75606384
I said the same, supposedly she does it once a week. I don't remember what she said exactly but it's done in a way where it's not that serious, like pricking your thumb or something.
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>>75597632
this
>>75597753
jews push for the destruction of Christianity
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I believe Christians and Pagans (especially Nordic Pagans) may live together. Most likely, the Christians on this site will probably switch to Orthodox Christianity, as Pope Francis is very SJW like, and the Protestant nations are being very SJW like as well. Either way, Orthodox Christianity and Nordic Paganism alliance all the way.
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>>75606127
EXACTLY
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>>75606608
>I've been a Nazi
Only Neo-Nazifags use that term and real National Socialists use the term National Socialist, Nationalist and NatSoc. Be gone edgelord.
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>>75606127
Youre fanatics worshipping a sand nigger god. It makes me sad that fellow white men act this stupid.
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>>75606527
>You're aware that there are two fairly prominent sects which disagree, right?

Are you talking about the "ethnophyletism is a heresy" sect and the embodiment of "diversity is our strength" sect with its 100000 different subchurches?
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>>75606623
I think you're giving Christianity too much credit. Christianity has been allied to the state for the vast majority of its existence.

In casting off your ancient superstitions you, perhaps, accidentally went too far and plucked all the flowers from the chain, as it were.
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>>75606531
Martin Luther:

“O Lord, I am too feeble to mock such devils. I would do so, but they are much stronger than I in raillery, and they have a God who is a past master in this art; He is called the devil and the wicked spirit.. They have transformed God into the devil, or rather into a servant of the Devil, accomplishing all the evil the Devil desires, corrupting unhappy souls , and raging against himself: in short, the Jews are worse than the devils.”

“What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews? First, their synagogues should be set on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honour of God and of Christianity, in order that God may see that we are true Christians. Secondly, their homes should be likewise broken down and destroyed. Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayerbooks and talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught. Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threats of death to teach anymore.”

“...Cursed goy that I am, I cannot understand how they manage to be so skillful, unless I think that when Judas Iscariot hanged himself, his guts burst and emptied. Perhaps the Jews sent their servants with plates of silver and pots of gold to gather up Judas’ piss with the other treasures, and then they ate and drank his offal, and thereby acquired eyes so piercing that they discover in the scriptures commentaries that neither Matthew nor Isaiah himself found there, not to mention the rest of us cursed goyim..”
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Christcucks are cancer
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>>75606747
My only hope is that we will not have an unhealthy alliance, unlike the United States and Soviet Union did during World War 2.
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>>75601314
>truly embrace a warrior lifestyle, but that doesnt mean they cant follow the Nine Noble Virtues.
Who'd you get that from, Mcvan? Nine noble Virtues sounds like almost like an extension of Buddhist formulae or something.
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>>75606267
If you're not autistic, it's a lonely road.

Don't expect many true faith brothers, but if you have good friends that's all you need.
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>>75606862
He never said Christians are incapable of cognitive dissonance. In fact I would go as far as to say that it's their forte.
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>>75606576

Metalheads can be my crowd when I'm in a bar or something. But I don't think I'd be able to take the religion seriously if some overt metalhead dude showed up with a fucking shirt band or something like that, no matter how northern the latitude of the band members may be, really.

I'm just a bit lost because if you want to be a christian or a muslim, there's somewhere you can go to get started. But this? No
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>>75606692
>It's connection to Jews?
>You mean this?

No, I don't mean people being butthurt because a huge chunk of kikes wouldn't convert to your sect.
The backstory is jewish. The theology is jewish. The characters are jewish, with the biggest one coming from a degenerate cuckold relationship.

It's honestly disgusting.
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>>75591361
Holy fuck the NSA has copied my Mjölnir?
þat's mine I have it around my neck now, made here locally(I know you can order these from spain, and it's very good qual)
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>>75606267
When a so-called religion has you confused because of Poe's Law, it's probably best to look for another religion.

>>75606608
>unitarian
There's your problem.

>>75606449
How many pagan LARP-ers can keep a goat maintained until feast day? Or don't live with their parents, who'd probably say 'no' to this stupidity?

>>75606774
Nazis/GnatSoc idiots are just as LARP-y as the pagans.
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>>75606514
I've read most of the poetic Eddas but in english so I don't know how much it counts
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>Wearing something you can be choked with
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>>75606950

You have to be literally retarded to believe that the religion that tells of how Jews KILLED THEIR GOD, that led to a thousand years of antisemitism, that led to hundreds of expulsions of jews, that is despised by jews at every turn...
is somehow "pro-jewish"
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>>75606747
I'm not switching churches because we have had bad popes before even worse then this fag but I am still staying through and through and the bible warned of False Prophets in the Church too.
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This is now a Christian thread.
Deus Vult.
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>>75605444
Actually, a lot of our mythology is closely related to Christianity, the devil and nature, and it retains a lot of its mystical appeal. The dwarves, giants and trolls from norse mythology survived into the middle ages and became part of our folk lore, and often tied in with Christianity.

Theodor Kittelsen, who lived in the 1800s, was a Norwegian artist who's known for capturing the Norwegian spirit and folk lore in his art, and drew many of these mythological creatures. He's particularly well known for his series on the black death, which in Norwegian folk lore was an old witch, who carried a broom and a rake. If she used the broom, everyone died. If she used the rake, there would be some survivors.
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>>75591361
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>>75591361

Good to see a fellow heathen.
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>>75607085
>is somehow "pro-jewish"

Where did I say that, lad?
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>>75606997
That's why I said I find it quite personal but you can google your city/province + paganism and have a chat with them, most of the people I've met are more in it for the interesting lost culture and badass warrior mentality for a better metal mindset. So just start reading about your religion of choice on wikipedia, try to remember the gods and search google for old stories/poems.
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>>75607085
A slave is best kept under control when he has the right mixture of resentment and adulation for his master.
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>>75606930

Yeah, that's one of my fears. Ending up around a bunch of edgy fags, and pretty much having even the freaking Gods laughing at me for it!

>>75607036
Yeah, but if you throw away everything that's been in some what tainted, you're left with nothing. A diamond hidden in a turd is still a diamond, but I'd rather not check every other turd for it.
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>>75593071
^This.
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>>75606575
No, you're not getting it. There is nothing fundamentally different about christianity vs paganism that makes it impossible to believe in one vs the other.

The issue is that one is a dead religion while the other is alive. People grow up surrounded by christianity, raised by christian families that taught them about christ ever since they were old enough to speak, and going to church every sunday, and going to bible school, and being surrounded by other christians (and a society borne from christian western values in general), etc etc etc.

Paganism is a dead religion though. No one grows up in this faith. There are no organized institutions of paganism. There is no modern culture of paganism. It's just a couple fringe people rejecting their upbringing and deciding to try out this ancient religion thing.
The thing is you don't CHOOSE what you believe. You can't just decide consciously "I'm going to believe in the greek pantheon today".

The whole point I'm making is that it's the CONTEXT of the environment around that that makes it impossible (or I guess improbable) to believe in paganism. If you were to travel to a time/place where christianity had either completely died out for centuries or had never been spread to, and you just found some articles on christianity all by yourself and started following along with the ancient rituals you learned about, that would be LARPing too.
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>>75607158
Deus Vult, brother.
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>>75607252
Yes, Jews were clearly our "masters" when we kicked them out of our kingdoms hundreds of times. Unlike the pagan Romans, who let them live in their cities without persecution.
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>>75591361

Because I'm not an atheist who LARPs as believing in whatever religion I think is optimal for the normies to believe (but le supreme gentlesirs like myself don't need reLIEgion XDDD pls upvote)
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>>75607158

If only Deus Vult weren't a meme.
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>>75607085
it is a jewish religion. It was created as an offshoot of the jewish religion. Its like an orthodox/catholic split that happened earlier
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>>75607280
So you're saying that brainwashing is the only way to truly believe in religion? I'm inclined to agree.
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>>75607036
>Nazis/GnatSoc idiots are just as LARP-y as the pagans.
I know but I was correcting that faggot plus I am a Hungarian Style Monarchist (when a king dies a new one is elected by lords and others and no heredity and if he is shit then his ass is overthrown) myself and NatSocs of today are laughing stocks and I know this system I support can't work on big nations but on smaller ones it works great.

>>75607158
I call a Crusade on this thread brother!
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>>75606665
If you had gotten 6666 I would've believed you (praise kek), but still I'm doubtful of race-centered pagan rhetoric. Also, I don't remember reading anything explicit about the rebirth or resurrection of the Norse gods after the ragnarok in the poetic edda. See what I mean, we interpret these old stories in light of Christianity or the story of Christ. Yes I know that rebirth motifs are present in most religions as evidenced by the writings of mythographers and just as well by common sense. That is, if one pays attention to the fertility cycles of living things and the seasons of the world. I get what you're saying about the "folk" and their "worshipping" the old gods but these ideas may have more to do with Nazi writers like Alfred Rosenberg rather than Snorri and the saga writers.
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>>75598577
I like that pendant. Where can I buy it?
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All this from a fiery bush on a mountain; like a mother fucker never seen a sunset before.
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>>75607058
As a mjölnir-wearer, I actually worry about this.

If I get strangled with it, I deserve it and the hanged god will laugh with me as he takes me in his embrace and leads me across the bifrost
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>>75607114
Well, I am still an Episcopalian, as my church is very un-cucked.
Even though my minister is a Woman, the community is quite redpilled.
They think we need to start to filter the refugees and immigrants coming to Europe and America.
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>>75607374
Modern Judaism has less to do with Christianity than Islam does. The Hebrew Religion and those who practiced it are in no way the corrupt Synagogue of Satan we see today.
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>>75607360
If only paganism wasn't one either.
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>>75605712
The biggest problem is the fact that no one knows how the norse practised their religion. They didn't write anything down, and most of the sources come from muslims who traveled with the vikings, or from Snorre (and other contemporaries), who was an Icelandic Christian who wrote down the king's sagas and norse mythology more than 150 years after the viking age ended. There are speculations that he changed the sagas to fit his Christian world view, and drew from Greek and Roman mythology as well.

Ironically, Snorre himself was murdered in a very viking-eque manner.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGEoJLIIuow
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>>75604668
Hvað seigir gamli?
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>>75607494
how does this address my point?
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>>75607453
Egyptians thought the sun was god, Moses trots up the hill and speaks to God, for fucks sake humans are daft cunts believing stories. Moses was an Egyptian prince ffs
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>>75595138
a lot has been preserved directly into our flavour of christianity too, like jul, midtsommer, påske...
Diff is we don't blot the animals we just eat. More traditions are preserved on the western island, like bonefires on all the 4 seasons like we only do in midsummer.

A lot is preserved in the books, eddas and the sagas.. But ofc most is lost.
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>>75607260
Have you considered that, regardless of intent, it's all fecal matter? Because the whole point of Poe's Law is to point out that crazy shit is crazy shit whether it's said in jest or not, because in the end, it's all a joke.

>>75607430
>monarchist
Has your fedora won you a virgin wife yet?
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>>75607345
>who let them live in their cities without persecution.

So did Christians most of the time. They even gave them a nice little niche market that made them very rich by prohibiting money lending - except for god's chosen of course.

And honestly, what good is kicking out rootless cosmopolitans going to do when back then you had hundreds of city states?

Christianity has always been ineffective in dealing with the kikes, which is why the biggest Christcucks on the planet not only are the greatest ally of Israel, they're also housing almost the same amount of these rats.

Remember that it was pagan Rome that kicked them out of their promised land and destroyed their temple.
And then remember that it's Christian countries they used to achieve their almost global hegemony.
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>>75607605
you look like a mexican
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>>75607374

Except it was not just an offshoot but a giant chasm that developed between the two religions (then the Jews added the Talmud a few hundred years after the New Testament was finalised, so modern Judaism is nothing like ancient Judaism)
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>>75605954
>Hermes the Human Perfected supplanted for a dead kike

Good goy.
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Zeus, is lightning without that nothing is animate.
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>>75607585
Can you read? JUDAISM =/= the ancient religion of the Hebrews that Christ came to replace. One CANNOT, by definition, be Jewish and Christian. JEWISH = rejection of Christ.
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>>75605752

Because you're a mutt choosing your favourite part of your ancestry because it's "hip and cool" to you yet you'll most likely ignore the gods of your other ancestors. Thats the problem. One should learn about their ancestors but fucking hell don't just latch onto one part because LE THOR LE ODIN SO KEWL EPIC VIKINGS XXXDDD
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>>75606514
lol I've read the sagas of the icelanders, personally I enjoyed it but I may be weird I also enjoyed the silmarillion.


Whatever haters gonna hate sorry not sorry lol
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>>75607605
>under 16 until 08-31-2016
Enjoy your vacation.
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>>75607691
>UNITED STATES
>CHRISTIAN COUNTRY

Now that's a meme.
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>>75607635
>Has your fedora won you a virgin wife yet?
Okay then which government system do you support then faggot? Because I would like to hear your superior system.
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>>75607042
>read English language translation
The Icelandic writings aren't bibles or something that must be repeated in Latin. Still, I would like to know more Old Icelandic words to appreciate the subtle meanings of their authors.
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>>75607777
ikr
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>>75606820
our blood is too hot. we are a violent people. before the Spaniards and their god came we were killing each other left and right when they were here and for the first few decades of independence we were civil people but now without the church and without god we are regressing into the old ways of killing for sport and worshiping death gods. You too in Britain should learn that the moment you stopped worshiping the christian god on a massive scale like after the world wars that is when you began to see problems and your country and it began to lose its prestige and your country started kowtowing to people who had nothing in common with you.
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>>75592662

Kek is the way

praise unto Him
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>>75607605
underage mods PLEASE
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>>75607726
>>75607747
So what did the old based jew worship? inb4 we was jews meme
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>>75607605
>that almost unreadable "John Kasich" at the top

Explain yourself.
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>>75607605

>being born in the CURRENT MILLENNIUM
>not the based 2nd millenium of our Lord
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>>75607450
Etsy.
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>>75607803
>then which government system do you support then faggot?
Whichever one gets me my bread and circuses. Which, as it stands, is the current one.
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>>75607605
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>>75607745
First Jews expelled from Greece 139bc for being wankers worshipping Jupiter sabazios or some similar name, confirmed by Byzantine in 1000ad to be Roman god Dionysus, later to be Jesus. Fucking close the kike book
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>>75607434
Baldr and Nanna are the only ones who truly survive, since they're sealed in the protective walls of Breidablik where no evil can exist. The rest actually die and are supposed to be succeeded by their sons and daughters who avenge their deaths and step up to their roles. Whether you choose to see them as independent beings or reincarnations of their parents is up to the individual.
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>>75607865
It's called the Old Testament, and it addresses the human condition perfectly.
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>>75605712
Have you read Jack Donovan? He says that we should recreate the gang mentality of the vikings/village folk/hunter-gatherers by voluntary brotherhood societies. He is a part of a pagan cult where they lift together, fight each other and do animal sacrifice ritual to the old gods together. I'd love to be part of something like that, it would fill a gap that you lose in the modern world. We are pack animals, and want to fight and hunt and kill but that is denied to us.
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>>75607861
Does KEK require monotheistic worship? Asatru here I've offered to him in addition to other guys
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>>75607777
quads have spoken
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>>75607804
Same way every abrahamic religion bitches about not reading the source material in the source language, vikings bitch about not reading it in old norse. I've read those translations on sacredtexts and the editor's notes about his opinion on translation and the meaning were very helpful.
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>All this hate

That's the difference between these pagans and you Christians. The pagans of old would gladly cleave into your skull for speaking the way you guys do. Christians might do it but even then they would "ask for forgiveness".

LaVeyan was right.
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>>75607981
He's also a fucking faggot who enjoys aryan butt love.
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>>75607865

The Old Jews just practiced their religion as it's spelled out in the Old Testament.

The Talmud has been around for a while so you won't have any idea what this looks like. There are a few Jewish groups who reject the Talmud, but they're small in number and live in Russia
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>>75607605
How have you not been banned yet? 15 fucking years old? This better be a joke
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>>75607977
you should go and live in the middle east where your glorious old testament was written
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>>75607417
Essentially yes. Imagine how ridiculous it'd be to believe in christianity if you're minding your own business until you're 40 years old, have never heard of christianity, met any christians, etc, and then some random guy starts telling you to read this book about virgin births and floods and plagues and burning bushes.

You'd roll your eyes and assume you're talking to a wacko. That's why pagans are LARPers. Because given this sort of scenario, it's essentially impossible for a completely ignorant adult man to find some readings on an ancient religion and just decide "okay, I'm going to believe in this now. "
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>>75607605
on my way to 11 Cedar Road, Cincinnati right now you manlet
>HOOSIER
>THOR
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>>75607217

Thank you very much. Hvala.

>>75607498
Point taken.

>>75607635
I'm a human. I started with fecal matter and I've built an entire civilization or two. Bullshit isn't necessarily bullshit.
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>>75608009
Left hand for life. Ave Satanus.
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>>75607798
>the country that has "in god we trust" on its money, "one nation under god" in its pledge, every presidential candidate licking the bible and god's chosen people's assholes alternately ISN'T Christian

Yeah right.
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>>75608071
I know I know it's so hard to believe

You do realize most of 4chan is underage, right?
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>>75607171
Christianity is Monolatrist.
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>>75607983
memes for the Frog God
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