Ancient Pagans
• As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
• Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
• Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
• Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
• Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
• Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
• In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
• In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. [DA466]
• The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
[DO19-25]
(Cont)
Mission
• Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
(Cont)
• Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]
• Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
• 15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]
• 16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]
• Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]
(Cont)
• Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]
• Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians...viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]
• Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]
• subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated. [WW183]
• After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183]
• Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
• Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).
• Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]
• John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]
>>75263256
Mods.
>>75263684
kek
>>75263322
>Implying the Inquisition did anything wrong
>kike worshipers can't refute this
>>75264461
>there's no actual sources on the graph
>>75263256
stay
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>>75264768
D E U S V U L T
Pagans are just asshurt that they never accomplished anything useful. Even the kebabs contributed more to modern knowledge.
>>75264726
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
>>75264948
the only time Christians ever accomplished anything was right when they rediscovered "pagan" Greek knowledge
>>75265085
>I am always amused when athiest are trying to deny god. They all get so mad and start babbling about science and other phony stuff. I simply keep calm and repeat them my favourite bible quote. This immediately shuts them down and makes them mad. I converted 23 athiest so far with my intellectual power
>>75265092
>t. expert science man
pic related christian
pic related christian
It has been made to be politically acceptable to hate Christ and God. You've got the whole of the Internet to perpetrate your lies and hatred.
This is /pol/ - Politically Incorrect. Get the fuck off of this board and take your Jewish plots with you.
Saged and reported.
.pic related christian
>>75265228
kill yourself nigger, /pol/ is an atheist board and if you don't like it you can fuck off back to 9gag
pic related christian.
pic related christian,
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>>75265328
>hurr durr da cristianity gave them divine powers to conquer people
>>75263256
>Christianity is the only religion that has seen through the Jewish tricks since the very beginning.
>Jews are indoctrinating everyine to hate Christians
hmm... I wonder who could be behind this post?
>>75265092
>What were the Late Middle Ages
>Who was Galileo
>What was the Byzantine Empire
>inb4 they weren't Catholic so they don't count
>le renaissance = fedora atheism maymay
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>>75265474
>he mentions galileo as "Christian" accomplishment
>the guy that was in conflict with the church because they didn't like his science
Religious tards, everyone
>>75265396
>the only time Christians ever accomplished anything was right when they rediscovered "pagan" Greek knowledge
>Who were the Crusaders
>Who were the people who kept Kebab out of Europe
>What was the Battle of Tours
>What was the Reconquista
>>75265312
Calling your fellow white man a nigger in these dark days. Telling a person promoting positive ideology to leave this place.
You are either very young, brainwashed, or Jewish. Whatever the case, you do not have any semblance of wisdom.
Sage for a thread promoting Jewish ideology and division.
>>75265600
Everything the Greeks did after they converted still counts as Paganism because I say it does.
>>75265312
>/pol/ is an Athiest Board
Run along now child. I've been on 4chan for over 10 years and on this board since it was raised from the dead.
It has never been an Athiest board until it became popular with the normies.
Daily reminder that atheists invented memes.
>>75265648
>promotes Judaic poetry combiled by rabbis
>accuses me of promoting a Jewish ideology
at least the average religious tards like jews, how do you retards can make these mental gymnastics to like christianity and jews at the same times? you actually managed to be even more braindead than the average christcuck
>>75266151
Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead. I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I love you. - Revelation 3:9
>>75266151
The people referenced in the Bible were Judean, not the International Jew of today (like your masters, and quite possibly you).
But I'll tell you what. Let's make this easy and get to the conclusion nice and quickly.
You have three minutes in which to explain how atheism has helped promote White culture and civilization and how it can serve as a bulwark against non-whites. Go.
>>75266151
>Mental gymnastics.
Talmudic Judaism is descended from the Temple Religion that was popular in the Roman province of Judea in the centuries before and after 0AD.
Christianity is "descended" from the temple religion as well if you take that term liberally. Christianity exists as a revision of the temple religion and abandonment of the old law.
What you are proposing is the same as saying "LMAO NORSE PAGANISM AND DRUIDIC PAGANISM ARE THE SAME BECAUSE DAY BOTH DESCEND FROM DE PROTO-INDOEUROPEAN RELIGIONS PRACTICES :DDDD SAME FOR HELLENIC PAGANISM AND SLAVIC PAGANISM :DDD".
No one cares if you believe in God or not on the internet.
Please, however, take the time to educate yourself before loudly proclaiming how much of a faggot you are.
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>>75266572
>HURR DURR LE ARYAN JESUS LE WE WUZ KANGS DA JEW FAKE ANTI-CHRIST DUDE THEY WUZ ACTUALLY LIZARD FAKE JEW AND FROM KHAZERIA
kill yourselves . the only way you retards are able to hold the narrative of your stupid theories is to constantly invent new conspiracy theories to build on them. How are people like you even able to function in everyday life? its like you replaced all facts and history of the world with your own delusional fantasy world
>>75266706
You didn't answer my question and resorted to threats, empty accusations and slurs against Christ.
Strike 1.
Let's try again: How has atheism promoted White culture and civilization and how can it stand against Social Marxism?
Come on, I'm giving you an easy one. You have thought this through, right?
>>75266706
Listen you Cypriot faggot.
You aren't making anyone angry and are simply embarrassing yourself.
I have a degree in Classical Civilization and can read Ancient Greek, Latin, and Middle Egyption Hieroglyphics (fuck demotic and coptic tho).
All of my assertions (and many of those in this thread with regards to the development of Christianity in the classical world) are firmly attested to in contemporary texts.
Once again, no one cares if you are an Atheist or not. I, at least, only care to ensure you do not bastardize the history of the Mediterranean world to suit your narrative.
This will be my final post in this thread.
>>75267124
sounds like you are mad my kike worshiping friend
>>75267082
atheism is not a culture by itself, its the lack of a specific culture, namely the widespread judaic bronze age cult that has been suppressing science and actual culture for thousands years in europe, and you like a good cuck defend it even though you hate jews. Just because some retards you hate happened to be atheists doesn't influence atheism at all
>>75267383
>being this retarded
How old is that brain of yours, Anon?
>>75267578
>yess goy yess, christianity is correct!
>now pls send us some more donations for Israel, even bible says it!
kill yourself shillster
>>75263684
This is wonderful.
>>75267689
Lol go outside bro
>>75267689
Typical Fedora believing in "muh Christian dark ages" and "A-atheists have no influence on atheism, i-it's a great ideology guys"
Stay mad that billions of people love Jesus.
>>75263256
>the lord of darkness will never tongue your asshole while he fondles your balls
why even live?
>>75267383
>"actual culture"
>"just because some retards you hate..."
>no true Scotsman
Strike 2.
It seems you lack even a basic understanding of history and to try that old canard that Christianity has prevented us from being the Jetsons really displays a lack of intellectual honesty. Many prominent geneticists and physicists have been Christian. In fact, many scientists whose work holds to this day were even monks, Gregor Mendel being an extremely important contributor.
People of all faiths have contributed to scientific progress and have put forward theories.
Last chance, please try really hard this time. How can atheism be used as a cultural anchor and defense against non-whites?
>>75267689
Preach on, you make Julian proud.
>>75268286
>How can atheism be used as a cultural anchor and defense against non-whites?
you still don't get it do you? atheism is NOT an ideology or a philosophy you dumb faggot how can "it" be used for something if it doesn't exist?
but we are pro-Christianity.
>>75268678
Choosing not to decide is still a choice
>>75269327
only if you assume you have valid choices to choose from
Kek pagans got cucked
>>75263684
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>>75265760
Not an argument but keep worshiping your kike on a stick
>>75265190
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>>75265328
Allah's will is powerful because european countries are being invaded by muslims?
What about mongolian spiritualism? Roman paganism? Even then, all the empires you posted are LONG GONE
>>75265421
>Christians immune to jewish lies
>LITERALLY WORSHIPS A KIKE ON A STICK
Well meme'd my friend
>>75265707
It is not faggot
I like this thread.
>>75263309
>• Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
Weren't the turks the one attacking the hungarians?
>>75268678
I understand completely, but what you need to understand is that your proposed non-ideology has been attempted multiple times on national scale - it has even been promoted as an official state faith, an obvious example being gosateizm.
For all the years it has been practiced it has produced nothing of value. It accompanies enormous purges and loss of human life.
These purges are well documented by historians and in written material from the period.
White people have died to this murderous "non-ideology". If it offers nothing to us, why should we abandon what has worked in the past and put in its stead what has not?
>>75269372
Well there is an option of none of the above, but does that make it the correct option. Satan only has one mission and that is to deceive people that Jesus isn't the ticket out of the place he's bound to go to. There is only one Truth in a sea of lies, and we have the chance at deciding our fate in this short life. Choose wisely my friend
>>75268286
>How can atheism be used as a cultural anchor and defense against non-whites?
HAHAHAHAH, because your faggot pope is doing a great job at that!
>>75269686
I think you are confusing atheism with communism
>inb4 dey are de same!
>>75263256
>• Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
based christians
>>75264461
normalize for population pls.
Christian deities that are White: 0
Christian deities that are Jewish: All of them
>>75264461
looks more like "wow look at all the scientific discovery a christian society has fostered"
>>75269681
We dindu nuffin we go to mosq
>>75263256
Basically the SJWs of the 300s.
>>75269894
Very well, since you want to restrict the question to individual faith rather than those which nations are founded upon and practice, which is quite convenient given your earlier attempt to suggest that Christianity impeded scientific progress, let's work strictly in your new parameters.
Look at the picture in the original post. Compare that to the work of Rembrandt.
Now do it again.
Tell me then, on an individual level - what has atheism created? Show me something of value that has been birthed through embracing atheism and practicing it.
A sculpture, a doctrine, a value. Show me something of beauty and worth that it has produced.
>>75270447
the existence of science is based on the denying of establishment dogma and searching for answers based on reason. almost no Greek philosopher was actually pagan the same way almost no modern scientist is a Christian
The unfortunate reality of the religious situation any man vested in the future of the white race is that Christianity is almost certainly compromised. Pope Francis is clearly a Jew planted kike nigger shill who should be shoved in an oven. Christians in general have completely forsaken the white race or notions of traditionalism, becoming accepting of filthy perversions, charity for subhumans, and other suicidal tendencies pushed solely on whites.
However, paganism has absolutely NO "living" traditions. By that I mean, there are no places like-minded pagans can go, to instill proper values for their children, to maintain a proper weekly schedule to be good citizens of the state, to discuss matters of spirituality and philosophy as they relate to both matters esoteric and practical. Most pagan meeting groups are filled with pathetic Wiccan women who hate traditionalism and are severely mentally ill, these places often promote effeminacy in men, antinatalism in women, homosexuality, racemixing, and a general disregard for love, beauty, and truth.
I am, at the moment dating a very nice Catholic girl, and we have discussed both marriage and children. She is not entirely aware of my full on support for white national socialism, but she is fairly conservative and filled with common sense.
I hope that if and when we have children, I can raise them under pagan traditions, including a proper Nordic celebration of Yule, a Celtic celebration of Samhaìn, proper funeral and coming of age rites, etc.
Only then can paganism become a living tradition - something children are raised in, something children come to conceive themselves as a part of. Because I have no illusions about what I am - no matter how much I deny it, my traditions, my conception of self, my view of the world and my gut understandings of morality - are Christian, and fundamentally flawed.
Still, I hope for a better life for my children.
>>75263256
Mfw paganism in Greek and Roman culture was already dead when Christianity arose
>>75265228
>"Christ" and "God" ARE Jewish plots, they seek to destroy European heritage.
Deus Vult
>>75265648
Did he hurt your feelings by calling you a nigger? Get over it faggot.
>>75270911
the problem with your reasoning is that it fails to see the issue. Religion is not a cultural club and is not a matter of opinion. Christianity is the Truth. Christianity is the only true faith. If you raise up your kids following paganism, you are responsible for their eternal damnation in hell. Is that what you want for your kids? Shame on you!
If you are going to breed with a conservative girl, at least don't taint a catholicfu with your toxic view of the world.
Christianity isn't about LARPing and doing scenic rituals, it is about knowing and loving the real God, creator of heaven and earth, the Alpha and the Omega.
>>75270707
That has nothing to do with what I said. We are not debating the scientific method, and we already covered the faith of scientists quite some posts ago. Keep up.
Show me something of societal value or beauty that atheism has created.
Let's move on from oil painting. Maybe that was an unfair medium. Look up the Heddal Stave Church. Show me an atheist architectural contribution.
>>75263256
>Satan eating Jesus' shit
>basically being Jesus' bitch
How is this anti-Christian?
>>75263256
It's almost like that's what Pagans were doing to Christians before.
>>75271462
thats has everything to do with what you said. the scientific method was founded by people that went against the religious dogmas of their society
>>75263309
>• Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
What's the problem?
>>75263256
Catholics.
Christians.
Pick one.
>Oh, hey, yeah, 100% of muh atrocities were committed by Catholics. My bad.
>>75263256
-Religion that thinks that jews are the chosen ones, "prospers" aka old testament.
-Religions that takes only new testament and genisis, gets slaughtered (gnostics)
>>75270911
I think finally letting a jesuit be pope was a concerted effort to restore Catholicism in the hearts of European peoples. Think about it, its the perfect time with the migrant crisis happening.
So they let the ultimate order of cucks have a single pope, Catholics realize this isn't what makes their heritage and faith great, and return to the Church.
The next Pope will be truly glorious.
As someone studying ancient Greek philosophy it is all too common that I find someone who's works we have none of or very little of. When I look into it, it's ALWAYS, that Christians did not like him and either made no effort to preserve the copies of his work or outright worked to destroy them.
Learning about the lose of ancient knowledge practically brings me to tears sometimes. Christianity is a religion of anti-philosophy. Saint Paul called it "corrupting", Aquinas saw it as a threat to religious power and helped to push the church in the direction of condemning the vast majority of philophical works. Of the one's that were legal to read only certain interpretations were allowed to be read.
How can anyone defend catholicism on this board? The use of logic doesn't stops someone from believing in a creator but it does show that catholicism is a terrible religion.
>>75271369
Christianity is the religion of the desert. In Christianity, there is the holy trinity: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. There is you, and then there is the one and only true God, the Father in Heaven above.
Now anon, let's have a little experiment, shall we? Close your eyes. Not yet, dumbass.
Imagine being a man of the desert. There is you, and the Other, the Other consisting of the Sky and the Sand, and whatever animals dot your negroid eyes.
Christianity is based on this conception - there is you, and only ONE other - one almighty spirit that controls the vast sections of desert. The sand is eternal, unstoppable - all other things are secondary, negligible, compared to its vast power. There is also the sky - whether or not the Sky is God and the sand is the Son, or the Sun the Christ or Sand the God is up to you. But consider that conception of the world! It is the Christian conception. It is a conception that a man in the desert sees. You are not in the desert. Observe, honestly, your surroundings, italiano.
Do you the see the mountains, the sky, the green grass, the trees that rise up? Consider the forests, the streams, each mighty in their own right in your eyes. The nimble creatures that navigate this colorful, diverse world - yes, diverse, truly diverse, not filled with the brown-beige nonsense the desert people worship - are all possessed of a great spirit.
Each force in the European conception is much more equal in power - each important - as opposed to the desert conception of man and the All-Seeing Other. That is a pagan conception. Dig deep down, italiano! You dago wop bastard, I promise you, if you dig deep, you will remember your pagan roots. Christianity is a false conception of self. It is not true. Deep down, you believe and understand the pagan way of thinking. Reflect upon this, and join me in Valhalla
>>75272088
As if Protestantism is any better.
Let's not forget that out of Protestantism the practice of usury became legal and widespread and encouraged.
The idea that mass shouldn't be in latin correlates with the notion of a classless society as the lowest born and poorest among the faithful could never afford to communicate in anything but the vernacular.
>>75271511
Nah dude. If you look at history only Monotheistic religions do this crap.
The Greeks did not go around destroying Egyptian and Hindu temples. As far as they were concerned the Egyption Gods might be real but they were the Gods of other races so the Greeks had no real business with them. They also had an incredibly tolerant view of religion, you could be just about any religion you wanted.
The mass persecution of Christians by the Romans only happened after literally 2 centuries of trying to make compromises with the this new religion and getting new results. Early Christians were basically the most extreme version of SJW, they would literally go attack pagan temples in hopes of getting killed (because it would make them a Marty which means heaven). Than the living Christians would turn around and accuse the Pagans of intolerance. Rome was given no choice but to outlaw the religion.
>>75271550
You have been unable to answer any of my questions and you have been unable to satisfy my curiosity regarding atheism.
I stand by my earlier assertion that you are either very young or Jewish, as it seems the only thing you are interested in is some non-distinct, patently false boogeyman which has prevented us from being the Jetsons.
To repeat for a final time: many prominent scientists who gifted us with the theories and methods which we inherited today were God fearing men. The conflation of luddism with Christianity is an extremely thin and old, yet successful piece of propaganda.
As you cannot present me anything of value your "non-ideology" has offered, and you cannot state exactly why something which offers no actual value to our people should be adopted, I must conclude that either you are talking garbage on the Internet for your own entertainment, you are severely misinformed, or you are a Jewish agent here to cause division and practice your hatred of Christ.
Being unable to answer my easiest of challenges was, of course, strike 3.
I will waste no further time on you.
Christian fags on here like to talk about how redpilled they are. They just can't seem to swallow the final red pill on religion. Sad really. They're living the ultimate blue pilled existence and they dont even know it. Keep worshipping a homosex jew though, faggots.
>>75272716
>they would literally go attack pagan temples in hopes of getting killed (because it would make them a Marty which means heaven). Than the living Christians would turn around and accuse the Pagans of intolerance.
Sounds familiar.
>>75272911
You're just a Jewish instrument to achieving a Satanic society. That's why Atheists are now joining up the Church of Satan.
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>>75272646
I'm not saying that protestantism is any better, you see I haven't studied about it so I don't talk about it. I DID study about catholicism and it's the same abhorrent "listen and believe" that /pol/ likes to criticize on feminism.
>>75273001
Because christianism was judaism 2.a and islam was judaism vers 2.b
Yahweh was a genious of creating 3 religions for him, going against all other religions and putting those 3 religions against themselves so there's always enough suffering for people to get desperate enough to pray.
>>75272201
>Each force in the European conception is much more equal in power - each important - as opposed to the desert conception of man and the All-Seeing Other
I am not even going to address and therefore enable this foolish fan-fiction you conjured up in your head.
The Trinity already exists in the OT, if you weren't uneducated and easily led astray you would know that. Therefore your whole argument is invalid
>You dago wop bastard, I promise you, if you dig deep, you will remember your pagan roots
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZDj5nM0KbdUTEpoka1oyAR8BtHfIiVJm
>>75263256
Cry harder purple dragon chaser
>>75274190
>implying the OT wasn't made on the desert
Are you really ignorant in your own religion?
>>75265421
>>Christianity is the only religion that has seen through the Jewish tricks since the very beginning
No, that would be Islam.
Christians are Jew-enablers.
You know why there's so much money in the hands of Jewish bankers? Because in the middle ages, CHRISTIAN kings made it illegal for everyone except Jews to practice usury.
>>75263256
>anti Christianity on a page called politically incorrect
sage
mods
thread
>current year
>worshiping a dead kike on a stick
You christfags dare to call yourselves redpilled, but you then go and worship kikes and kike lovers. What gives?
>>75272201
>Do you the see the mountains, the sky, the green grass, the trees that rise up? Consider the forests, the streams, each mighty in their own right in your eyes. The nimble creatures that navigate this colorful, diverse world - yes, diverse, truly diverse
The middle east has those things too you fucking idiot, try looking at a map sometime.
>>75274566
so what? The place in which God spoke to us first has nothing to do with that fan-fiction influenced by the jewish doctrine of Freud in the 20th century.
>>75274190
Where did I deny the Trinity? The Trinity, three things, yet one thing. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. I was raised Catholic as well. But still, that's only three things, friend, each totally supreme, ruling over all aspects of life. That is a conception of the desert - the sand and the sky rule all, all else is merely dots on a landscape.
>>75274972
It means his argument is still valid. Also WHY would you trust anyone who says that god spoke to him? You're on fucking /pol/ you're supposed to be better than a sheep.
>>75274950
shut up faggot, you know what I meant. you really think sandniggers live primarily in forests? you really think "the forest" isn't an extremely important concept in the European scope of imagination?
>>75265594
>Thinking that the church at that time cared about actual religion, and not power.
Galileo was a Christian, you arrogant fedora-tipper. He even wrote letters about how Bible passages supported the Copernican model of the Solar System.
>>75275078
nothing implies the whole non-sequitur about "sky and desert". I know you have read this shit somehwere and you thought "oh that is smart" so now you are parroting it without questioning it, but you are completely wrong.
You are giving a human dimension to the divine, and analysing it through those human lenses. Once you do that, you have already lost track of the reality of God. God can only be understood through revelation and only after that through reason. Using reason first and only after revelation will always lead you into heresy, apostasy and overall error.
Btw, if you analyse how things went, you'll find out that it's very likely the "promised land" was actually where the garden of Eden originally was, and that Jesus was crucified where Adam and Eve first sinned. Which would make you understand why God chose it and why being a "jew" isn't really a big deal.
>>75275428
I am not going to debate with an edgelord fedora.
Look around you, there is nothing more politically correct than being an anti-theist. God is not just an entity, he demands certain things from us. Those things he demands from us are rejected by this world. So yes, being a Christian, especially a Catholic, is exteremely fucking politically incorrect and the opposite of being a sheep.
>>75275722
people seem to forget that Galileo was literally a friend of the Pope and had private meetings with him all the time
>>75275712
>you really think "the forest" isn't an extremely important concept in the European scope of imagination?
Okay Pocahontas.
It's the 21st century, we don't worship trees and rocks anymore.
>>75263256
Why do so many atheists support the mass immigration of Muslims into Europe, or devoutly-Catholic Hispanics into the US?
Atheism seems like a self-defeating venture, famalam.
>>75269651
I like you.
>>75276005
We should support Islamic immigration because a disproportionately high number Muslims are doctors, computer programmers, and other STEM type professions.
>>75275808
>ask for arguments
>"I am not going to debate with an edgelord fedora."
It's not about being politically correct or not, it's about self-reliance on where or who you put your faith on. And just to remember you, christ is often seen as a shepherd for sheep, so yes you are a fucking sheep, you are literally believing what you read on a book blindly.
>>75276263
Those are just the ones that get Visas.
The majority of sandnigs in Muslim countries are derka-derka goat fuckers with IQs that would get them labeled retarded by Western physicians.
>>75276842
>it's about self-reliance on where or who you put your faith on.
You rely on deceitful and treacherous things of this world, I rely on the the creator of everything.
>you are literally believing what you read on a book blindly.
you are using human means of judgement with the divine. That is your problem. You have to understand that God is above natural laws, and above your human logic.
>>75277304
>I rely on the the creator of everything
How do you know that what's on the bible is true?
>and above your human logic
If he gave us logic he would be the first one to encourage us to use it. You are relying on what someone said, wrote on this case, instead of using something that was given by your creator.
>>75277542
>If he gave us logic he would be the first one to encourage us to use it.
He does, but you misuse it.
>You are relying on what someone said, wrote on this case, instead of using something that was given by your creator.
Christianity was given to us by the God. You reject that because you cannot accept the idea that life is not about doing whatever you want, however you want. You fool yourself.
>worships a Jewish carpenter
>cuts his foreskin according to Jewish customs
>Redpilled
Somehow christfags on /pol/ don't see the irony in this.
>>75276005
You included Russia there, but absolute majority of Russians are Christians only nominally and totally ignorant of Christianity. For example, my 'christian' classmate said that Orthodox Christianity (one word in russian, pravoslaviye) is divided into catholicism and christianity. Facepalm.
t. Atheist
>>75278095
>t. Atheist
>t. Socialist good goy
>>75278095
Nice anecdote.
The amounts of insane conservative theists, racists and nazis on /pol/ is overwhelming. Truly, it's the real cancer of 4chan.
>>75275808
>>75277730
>I know you have read this shit somehwere and you thought "oh that is smart"
Don't attack my source, faggot, attack the argument.
Secondly, the "sky and desert" isn't a non-sequitur, it's a parallelism/metaphor designed by the brain. If you think that's a non-sequitur you might as well be one of those fedora tipping STEMfags who thinks that all literary interpretation is for fags, hurr durr.
Thirdly, I think I actually do get where you're coming from. God, being outside of the scope of human understanding, cannot be come to via human reason, believe that thou mayeth understand, etc.
This, I think, is the root of our disagreement. Surely man, being part spirit, part animal, is capable of at least partial understanding of the divine? Or do you further distinguish between the animalistic and the spiritual by splitting the spiritual into the profane spiritual (the soul of man) and the divine spiritual (the Holy Spirit)? I suppose you must.
>>75277785
Isn't that just America in general? They walk around with the mark of David, ready to die for Israel at a moments notice. Americans are more like Jews than the Israelis are.
>>75277730
>Christianity was given to us by the God.
And why do you think so? What makes you so sure?
FUCK CHRISTIANITY
real whites are pagans like me fuck you jew dead cunt on stick worshipers
>>75279753
>a dying race practicing a dead religion
like poetry
>>75279220
Agreed, that's why you should import more Turks and keep Slovakia a shining beacon of progress.
>>75279243
>the "sky and desert" isn't a non-sequitur, it's a parallelism/metaphor designed by the brain.
nice fanfiction. Psychology is not a science and you are an idiot for treating it as if it were
>Surely man, being part spirit, part animal, is capable of at least partial understanding of the divine?
We can only understand what he revealed to us. That is the basis for the Catholic "deepening of the understanding of dogma" in Catholic tradition. We cannot understand something about the divine if it does not come from him first. As I said: revelation precedes reason. If you let reason precede revelation, you are basically doing mental masturbation, and not understanding anything at all.
>Or do you further distinguish between the animalistic and the spiritual by splitting the spiritual into the profane spiritual (the soul of man) and the divine spiritual (the Holy Spirit)? I suppose you must.
Why do you try to have theological debates if you know absolutely nothing about theology? Read a couple of books and get back to me.
>>75279711
>And why do you think so? What makes you so sure?
Everything, literally every single thing. From history, to common sense to private revelation.
>>75269651
>Sweden
>sex addicts
you mean the bulls they prep?
>>75263256
Wait... OP's image... does this mean that if I pray hard enough I can get the Devil to rim my asshole AND give me a "reach around"? Sign me UP!
>>75279949
FUCK CHRISTIANITY what a useless god dead on stick and jew.May Perun strike you dead nigger.
>>75280082
>Everything, literally every single thing. From history, to common sense to private revelation.
That's not an argument and you know it.
>>75280252
I'm not Christian though.
>>75263256
Everyone killed eachother back in that time
Its todays problems we have to deal with idiot and christianity is not one of them
>>75280305
no argument will ever suffice with you either way. Stop wasting my time.
>>75263256
>>75263309
>>75263322
Nice try you LARPing faggot, your list is a mix of reddit memes and Chick tracts. You wouldn't know European heritage if it burnt you at the stake.
>>75265707
/pol/ is not only an atheist board, see http://www.strawpoll.me/10289721
it's an anti Christian board. This thread is just a reminder.
>>75271995
this is pretty much what drove me over the edge too. all sandnigger religion is cancer and needs to be eradicated
>>75271995
Oh, fuck off, you whiny faggot. You wouldn't have ANY of your Greek philosophy if it weren't for Irish monks and Syriacs rescuing it from Muslims.
> Aquinas saw it as a threat to religious power
Are you fucking delusional? Aquinas was condemned and excommunicated after death for his liberal usage of Aristotle. Did you learn everything you know about history of philosophy by jerking off with your copy of Bertrand Russell?
>>75281093
>strawpoll
>115 votes
>/pol/ is politically correct guise I swear!
Better hide the replies telling you to fuck off in that pic.
>>75281093
fuck off nigger
>>75283341
>56% vs 44%
religious cucks can't even do simple math
>>75283699
Irreligious doesn't mean atheist, it just means that you reject the notion of someone dictating what you should believe on.
>>75283859
the argument was whether /pol/ is a christian board or not, and his own chart says that non-christians are the majority. and haven't even counted all those that voted religious but aren't christian
BLACK METAL IST KRIEG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xspdW6GTZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywL6hMxtMhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEHP2l_lwk
>>75265312
/pol/ is a kekist board m8. christians and norse most likely outnumber the fedoras as well
>>75263256
>Christfags can't refute this and can only reply with le hat tipping meme
lel
