Everyone is focused on the American elections this year, but who is excited for next year's European elections? Pic related.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2017#
The Netherlands is also having their election next year; it just hasn't been linked yet.
What are the chances of AfD, Le Pen, and Geert Wilders pulling through?
New Zealand also has elections next year, but that's pretty minor.
>>74734763
Wilders looks like he's going to get 35-40 seats out of 150, unless something big happens. He'll be the biggest by far as the other big parties are polling around 20 seats.
However, almost every single other party has gone on record saying they will not form a government under/with the PVV. Geert said there'll be a "revolt" if they sideline him if PVV wins. If they do sideline him, they'll need to form a broad coalition of at least 5 parties, not going to happen.
The only option is PVV + VVD + CDA but Geert nuked a similar government under VVD a couple years ago, so VVD and CDA will not want to repeat that.
I won't vote for PVV though. They're cucks.
I vote SGP. The only defenders of Christendom.
Fuck Wilders and his homosexual pro lgbt anti-king Willy attidude.
>>74735416
>DENK
American tier sjw's+erdogan lovers have reached us
>>74735416
Hmmm. My concern is that other parties WILL make a coalition just to deny him. I think the leaders in the EU are getting desperate.
>>74735474
Fuck of christcuck
>>74735416
For clarification:
VVD: Liberal right
PvdA: Labour
PVV: Wilders
SP: Socialists
CDA, ChristenUnie and SGP: christfags, in order from moderate to hardcore
D66: europhile cucks
PvdD: Animal rights lefties
GroenLinks: Leftist green cuck party
50+: Boomer party
DENK: Erdogan's AKP delegation
>>74735611
They'll try, but the current coalition of VVD and PvdA is having massive trouble staying together. These parties are reasonably centrist compared to PVV, GL, SP, PvdD etc. If a two party coalition has trouble staying together, imagine how fast a 5 party coalition will fail.
>>74735796
Do you think NL could face sanctions if they elect Geert? He's pretty widely hated
>>74735611
Don't put any hopes in PVV.
They are not defenders of Christian values.
The way they collectivized their standpoints, it is impossible to form a coalition.
Geert Wilders is a giant zionist who has hijacked the rightwing. The party gets funding from the Israeli government. They want to introduce a national holocaust remembrance day.
It's best to vote for SGP. Here's what they stand for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Political_Party
>>74734763
Odds of AfD gaining enough speed to win Germany next year?
Also, FN winning France? Probably likely to win the first round but I'm doubtful about them making it through the second round
>>74735796
VVD liberal right my ass , they act more like cucks
>>74735793
Your part of the reason why the Netherlands is dieing.
The SGP wants to restrict voting to male heads of households.
That simple thing will solve everything.
Universal suffrage is what is killing this continent.
>>74735931
Probably not. Most of his statements are taken WAY out of context in the MSM and there's only so much you can do with 40 seats. Dutch politics consists of finding compromise everywhere, he'll have to water down his policies a lot to get them passed.
>>74734763
Who cares? Anything they try to do, the EU can simply step in and say "nuh-uh"
So long as a country surrenders its sovereignty to unelected foreign bureaucrats, its elected government is utterly meaningless. Join us. Get out of the EU, and make your politics relevant again.
>>74735982
http://m.dw.com/en/german-state-elections-success-for-right-wing-afd-losses-for-merkels-cdu/a-19113604
Preliminary polling has them on the rise, with Merkel's CDU losing popularity (gee, I wonder why), however it's still early.
Merkel has also recently pivoted in an attempt to gain popularity again.
https://www.rt.com/news/342015-merkel-eu-security-nationalism-army/
>>74735416
>>74735474
>>74735793
>>74735796
This is why proportional vote systems are bullshit.
You have 10 parties that stand to win seats.
You end up with a completely ineffective government made up of a mess of 4+ political parties with the will of a damp rag. This is what the EU actually encourages to remove effective power from national governments.
FPTP may have many flaws, but at least it's capable of electing outright majorities in all but fringe cases.
>>74736028
True. Did you see Zijlstra's "migration stop" plan?
>tfw he calls it a "stop"
>still allow 15k per year
>VVD
>>74735982
La Pen has turned the party round massively and the most recent polls put her in the lead.
From the 14th of April La Pen is polling 30%
with Bruno Le Maire coming second at 18% for the UMP and Hollande at 15% for third. She'll only lose if the Left tactically votes; but if the situation continues to get worse; she'll keep increasing her support.
>>74736114
But what if these countries left the EU? And, assuming a Brexit, the EU will be weaker anyway.
>>74736203
That's the main problem with proportional representation yeah, however it does mean someone can't hold the entire country by the balls for 4 years with 30% of the vote.
With FPTP we'd have been a labour-infested hellhole years ago.
>>74735982
Frauke Petry is doing really great things for the AfD as well, and are slowly creeping up the pools, Merkel is essentially relying on the support of the SPD voters and the centre right to keep her on top.
I can see the AfD pushing through to become at least the third largest part in the Bundestag by the general election.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35806047
>>74736062
This.
I'd prefer voting to be restricted to taxpayers and landowners instead, though.
>>74736203
Also this.
>tfw losing FPTP
Are we starting to see a snowball effect /pol/? Because this is what I am hoping for. With each populist party winning in Europe, it might raise chances for others in other countries to get more votes.
>>74736276
The Euro-scepticism among Europes mid-right is pretty well known; if we do pull out I can see it toppling or at least rolling back to the Common market.
>>74736429
>I'd prefer voting to be restricted to taxpayers and landowners instead, though.
That would never happen; best to have an educated electorate than trying to reduce the franchise.
If you don't convince them at the hustings you'll be putting down a revolt in the streets.
>>74736276
Then power and glory to them. The EU will most likely collapse without Britain. Germany has a strong economy for, but they can't support it all alone, certainly not with the way their demographics are going. One way or another, we'll all be out of the EU soon enough, but it's safest to get out before it collapses.
>>74736062
I don't agree with that , aslong aheist women get a good childhood where they learn manners and values they could turn into respectable and intellectual civillians.
I agree with the fact that the Netherlands has gone soft through the years but that's more the fault of the feminism movement rather than atheism.
SGP will go too soft on the muslims and Europe. At the moment we need a government ruled by Wilders , untill a true right winged vvd politician stands up i'll vote for Geert.
>>74736469
Yeah definitley; I'm hoping HM stays around long enough so we can repair the break with the old commonwealth.
Because once she dies you guys are going to become a republic
>>74734763
>tfw you have to wait for 2018 to see based Salvini win
>>74736520
I wouldn't be opposed to a technocracy or geniocracy either.
>>74736542
Because of Fine Gaels light Euro-scepticism and the fact we own almost the entirity of Irish debt; we're going to have to negotiate with the Germans or the paddies are going to have to come with us.
Germany can't fill it's £8000 million hole overnight. The Paddies were almost rioting over water charges for fucks sake.
>>74736560
Thoughts on VNL?
>>74735416
Cordon sanitaire will happen
>>74736732
Haven't heard much about them. Could you explain their political view?
Only thing i heared was that they cucked bram.
>>74736618
The problem I have with many "ocracies" wether it be Metirocracy or technocracy is the impractically in creating a system that wouldn't simply restort to a twist oligarchic bureacracy,
I think indirect democracy with a impartial head of state is by far the best system we have.
Its gonna be the bomb
>>74736542
What are the polls looking like anyway? Ive seen that meme Boris lend his support to brexit, but then again some "celebs" like that Cucumberbitch guy said UK should stay in
Do continentals actually take those silly EU elections seriously?
>>74736802
Anti islam and classical liberal
Pro israel
>>74736580
>once she dies, you guys are going to become a republic.
Interesting thought. It's really too hard to tell at this point, because I just don't know what will happen when the Queen does die.
A lot of people in NZ still adore Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, because even if you don't specifically like her, she hasn't really done anything to make you dislike her, and so no-one really does.
But once the next-in-line ascends to the throne, people will have mixed feelings. They'll also be in shock at QEII passing away.
Our current government, National, is pro-republic (hence the flag referendum), but we also have elections next year, and while I think National will remain in power for a 4th term, I'm not sure what Labour or NZ First (our populist party) think on the matter.
>>74736802
Apparently, they call it classical liberalism and are a sister party of UKIP. Look up a couple interviews with Van Klaveren.
Basically they want a flat tax, more money to the military, police, harder stance on crime, less EU, less immigration.
Oh, and they want an aircraft carrier.
>>74736062
Wasn't there some poll back in February 2015 (or this year) that showed PVV being more popular among women? Ending women's suffrage isn't going to help :l
>>74736953
Sounds neat , but i doubt they'll even reach 10 seat next year.
>>74736932
I think you will naturally go with Australia on the issue when it comes about; both major parties for the both of you are pro-republic and are waiting for the right time to call a referendum.
I live in east-Groningen, it's a communist infested hell hole, they all vote SP here.
When I look out of my window, the only thing I see is fat elderly riding mobility scooters, smoking cigarettes complaining about healthcare and their pensions.
>>74736812
They're looking terrible. Remain is running away with it.
>>74737055
It's always hard for new parties to get votes, and they're not in the media as much (yet) like DENK. I hope they'll be able to eat some seats off of the VVD.
>>74737062
Indeed.
It's a shame really. I like being part of the commonwealth, and I voted to keep our current flag.
Plus, a commonwealth trade agreement could be pretty cool.
>>74734763
Iceland will be voting this October, probably.
Aboutaleb is going to become head of the PvdA. meaning all immigrants will vote for him.
I think we will have a Muslim president in 10 years.
>>74737195
Because of the fact you guys overthrew your head of state?
Yeah, Australia were supposed to have theirs next year too, but have moved it to this year.
So, will the Pirate Party get a majority in Iceland?
>>74737128
I feel you. Assen here.
I come from a socialist family (Pvda). But i somehow was able to deny their foolish views. Everyone around me has been cucked but i'm standing my ground.
>>74734763
Wow, it's been four years of Flanby already?
>>74737223
Either him or Asscher, who seems a bit more reasonable. Then again it's pvda so they'll probably go with the sandnigger
>>74734763
>AfD
Seeks to atleast double their results from last time and maybe even triple. They will take place in the german parlimentary.
>Le Pen
Maybe she will get to the second round in the presidential election but after that everybody will vote for the anti Le Pen candidate. Just like they have for years
>Geert Wilders
Seems like he will have a better election than last time, but since he kinda made the last goverment fall i doubt they are likely to trust him again.
Iceland will be intressting and see if the Pirate Party actually takes power there and how that works out, also i hope FRP does okey in Norway since they are in goverment now.
>>74736606
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_elections_in_2018
Hmmm. Sweden, Finland and Hungary, too. You guys will be riding off the coattails of 2017's results.
Also,
>Russian Elections
Putin wins again!
>>74736580
>become a republic
There's nothing to gain with Aus/NZ becoming republics really. It's better to be in the commonwealth as there are still cultural ties along with the rest.
t. Relocated Australian
>>74737583
Why'd you move to NL? Also how? Was it easy getting a job?
Are you learning Dutch?
>>74737636
Sometimes I ask myself that same question considering how eager the media and politicians want to sell the country out (though Aus isn't much better).
Born dual national.
Job market largely sucks.
>>74737281
I don't think so the Independence party is doing better. The Pirates could take control with a coalition though.
>>74734763
MLP have good chances to get on 2nd round, however she will never gets past 30% , because muh "darkest hours of our history"
>>74734763
>European election
Literally the most unimportant election ever. Watch out for the elections in France and the one here if you care about european politics.
>>74737886
Are you referring to the Cordon Sanitaire I keep hearing about?
>>74737518
>Hungary
I cant belive that their 2 biggest partys right now is Fidez and Jobbik, its bascially like they have secured themselv from the leftist rule for a couple of generations
>>74736932
Kike Keys wants to become a republic so he can sell more land to the chinks... fuck john keys. Maoris will vote to keep the queen just like they voted to keep the flag.
>>74737975
Re-read the OP post. That's what I am referring to.
European country elections.
>>74737886
the darkest hours of your history all live in paris.
>>74737975
>and the one here
kek
pretty sure CDU/CSU will just keep in power with SPD again, sure AFD will join the parliament, but im pretty sure that the current goverment would rather invite the Greens before CDU/CSU would consider working together with AFD
>>74737993
I refer to WWII, Vichy regime and collaborators (despite former leftist president Mitterrand being a collabo himself)
>>74738036
Lol my bad
>>74738111
Depends on what happens with Turkey. Merkels fate pretty much depends on here deal with Erdogan, and that isn`t looking too good at the moment.
Meanwhile, both politicans from the SPD and the CDU already said that they do not intend to continue with the grand coalition after the next election (for a varity of reasons), and the SPD looks like it could end up weaker than the AfD, especially if refugee numbers increase again.
>>74738352
In the event of an AfD win, will Germany leave EU, and will it expel its refugees?
>>74737999
There was a report somewhere by Daily Mail, Huffington or some shit like that.
It said 60% of the youth favours Jobbik.
60% of the youth is what the west considers "far right" ( this is without muh evil fidesz and orbán)
Left is at 10% because of gyps and old commies.
Greens are somewhat 1-2% because they support more or less controlled immigration and "humanity"
Feelsrightman
>>74734763
Why the hell does Iceland have an article over Germany and France?
>>74738352
>hey do not intend to continue with the grand coalition
there really isnt any other choice, unless Merkel steps down and CDU/CSU gets a completly new leadership who dont mind having the support of AFD and giving them some policie changes.
Continiuing the grand coalition would only result in a stronger AFD and Die Linke slowly growing on the behalf of SPD
>>74738481
>It said 60% of the youth favours Jobbik.
Litterly Hitler
Altough to be honest in Sweden, Fidez is considerd to be far-right.
Its often said in Swedish media that Hungary is the perfect society for our nationalist party Sweden Democrats
>>74738481
Meanwhile in England, revealing your power level as a young person is saying you believe in immigration controls of any kind.
Just cuck our shit up
>>74738677
It's weird. In NZ, people don't seem to mind too much if you support NZ first, because they've been a party that has consistently gotten into government, and their leader, WINston Peters, is a funny cunt.
>>74738639
How much will Norway's election results effect Sweden's?
>>74738852
Doesen't seem like most swedes give a shit about Norway, so not much.
>>74738852
probably not much, altoguh if FRP is able to stay in goverment and not take to much of a loss, i guess media can stop crying about far-right parties loosing support as soon as they are in goverment, also it will be fun to see the butthurt if FRP stays in goverment
In the long run the Sweden Democrats wants a situation just like they have now in Norway, or atleast like one in Denmark
>>74739086
>>74738959
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_parliamentary_election,_2017
This says Labour is in power. In terms of following the right-wing populism, wouldn't you want the Progress Party to move forward?
>>74739236
>This says Labour is in power
Its not, FRP and Höyre is in goverment
Also a party who sits in goverment is far more likely to go back then actually going forward
>>74739236
>>74739086
Oh I see what you are saying now.
Progress Party is in government because of the proportional system.
Are muslims in Sweden pushing it to the right?
>>74739342
>Progress Party is in government because of the proportional system.
Yeah the 4 right-wing parties had more seats bascially
>Are muslims in Sweden pushing it to the right?
I dont know what that means, but last election the 3 left-wing parties recived 43% of the votes and the 4 right-wing parties (who have an alliance togheter and was in goverment between 2006-2014) recived 39% of the vote
Sweden Democrats got almost 13% of the vote, and a small feminist party got 3,1% and didnt reach the 4% treashold
>>74739532
So, was it the left wing parties in power that let in all of the muslims?
Dutchman here, Wilders has a chance to win the elections. It's not as adamant however as the current polls show. Doubt he will be able to form a government, though. He's ruined that a bit for him the last time.
>>74739620
>was it the left wing parties in power that let in all of the muslims?
yes and no?
Sweden has had a high asylum immigrant since the 90s bascially, but it escalated in early 2000s
Altough our current left-wing goverment (Socialdemocrats and Green Party) actually enforced border controls between Sweden and Denmark, so refugees cant just walk trough Denmark anymore to get to Sweden, i think they did the same thing to the German border, also they have put forward a program of more restrictive immigration laws that Sweden has had since 1989.
But that was only because last fall around 60 000 came during a short period of 3 months so they had no other choice.
>>74735474
Christcuck detected
>>74739744
Do you live in Christchurch?
I lived with a dutchman.
>>74734763
Are they all limited yet?
Final terms?
>>74740173
Limited? Final terms? What do you mean?
>>74735966
Christian values are the source of all European problems tho
The values that are destroying Europe are not the pagan values of aggressive defense of one's honor, shows of strength, and storing of treasures for the future, that Jesus condemned as values of evil world-lovers
No, the values killing Europe are the christian values of pathological altruism, virtue signalling of sainthood, meekness and compassion, and a socialism that does not care about the future
THE EUROPEAN RIGHT
COUNTRY PARTY %
Ireland --
Great Britain UKIP 13 % (2015 elec.)
Sweden SD 25 % (2016 polls) ^
Finland PS 9 % (2016 polls) collapsed
Denmark DF 21 % (2015 elec.)
Germany AfD 15 % (2016 part.) ^
Austria FPO 35 % (2016 elec.) ^
Netherlands PVV 25 % (2016 polls) ^ + SGP-CU 8 %
Belgium N-VA 14 % (2016 polls) + VB 8 %
France FN 28 % (2015 elec.)
Italy LN 18 % (2016 polls) ^
Spain --
Portugal --
Romania -
Greece XA 7 % (2015 elec) + ANEL 4 %
Bulgaria PF 7 % (2016 polls) + Ataka 4 %
Croatia --
Slovenia --
Czechia ODS 11 % (2016 polls) + Svobodni 4 % + SPD 4 %
Poland PiS 35 % (2015 elec) + Korwin 4 %
Slovakia SaS + OL'aNO 23 % (2016 elec) + SNS 9 % + L'SNS 8 %
Hungary Jobbik 20 % (2016 polls) + Fidesz
Lithuania TT 8 % (2016 polls) + LLRA 8 %
Latvia NA 14 % (2016 polls)
>>74740640
neat
NOTRE REINE VAINCRA !
LONGUE VIE À LA REINE !
You know, /pol/, Indians are against Muslims too. They have a violent history with them.
WWIII could be on the horizon, and it could be the world vs muslims.
>>74741898
Hope so. But the leftist would be against or with the muslims?
>>74741950
The leftists will have to side with their countries. The traitors will desert and be killed in other countries.
Mind you, war is scary as fuck. Weapons are far more powerful than in WWII, especially Nuclear weapons.
>>74742095
If you get muzzies vs the rest of the world it'd be decided in a heartbeat. Arabs can't fight for shit. Now imagine USA, Russia, China on the same side of a war.
>>74742095
Yeah, but on the other side ; muslims are stupid as fuck, just look at the war in syria : they don't know how to handle a weapon and just scream Allah Akbar while shooting everywhere. They wouldn't have any worthwhile weapons, and as you said, the weapons we have kill really quickly compared to WW2.
And imagine Russia, the USA, China etc. in a war, it'd be over in ten minutes mate.
>>74742367
and Europe and India.
But you forget that there are large amounts of Muslims in every country. We'd all be fighting battles on our own soil. Take a look at how much more dangerous Paris would become.
Even New Zealand has a few Muslims. Fortunately, we have quite a few Hindus and Sikhs too, though.
>>74737281
Bro was always this year, just July not Sep-Nov timeframe.
Double dissolution tho but Turnbull changed the rules. Hopefully gets fucked for it, karma kunts
>>74742540
We have a much bigger nigger problem, muslims here have the traits of arabs, coupled with our pussiness.
>>74742540
Besides Poland most of Europe doesn't have an army anymore. Most of NATO is under the 2% spending treshold. Sure there'd be uprisings of native muzzies here and there but they're only about 5% of the population as a whole or so. Besides a couple no-go zones there wouldn't be much of a problem putting them down if we really wanted to. You'd get a lot more Sons of Odin-style groups, and biker gangs are always itching for a fight.
Also a reminder that all the arab countries import US or Russian arms. Going to war with them means they run out of arms and spare parts incredebly quickly.
>>74742677
Yeah, no doubt you guys have it bad. Imagine if they started organising targeted attacks on your main infrastructure from within.
I was so furious when I heard of the Charlie Hebdo attacks. How the fuck can another religion and race force their ideals onto a country that they don't own or belong to?
>>74742638
Wait, so it has been changed to not be double dissolution now? Or what?
Also, it was going to be like December/January IIRC, because I noticed it would have been in the same year as ours.
>>74742866
I feel like that might change if more of these right wing populist parties get in.
Trump also wants to pull out of a lot of countries, and get others in the UN to help out, instead of America just doing everything.
>>74742971
Charlie Hebdo is more likely to be because of the Jews ; CH had been criticizing the Jews a lot more than the Muslims.
The 13 novembre in the other hand.. this one show how much we are fucked.
Everyone hates muslims.
China
Russia
India
Eurocucks
Huge muslim issues
>>74742367
m8 they're already in our countries.
They often have better access to guns than natives. When it becomes open warfare you're looking at 6 months of chaos.
All rightwing parties need to adopt muh gunz before the happening or their populations may give up pretty quick
Hope within my lifetime islam is btfo.
Could see literally a billion people killed in war...
Kikes will have no ammo
>6 million? pretty tame
>>74743113
True.
We might see Trump proposing to change NATO from anti-Russia to anti-terrorist (I think I've heard him say that). If he manages to repair relations with Putin to a point of military cooperation the arabs are done for.
>>74743225
It's apparently laughably easy to get a gun illegally here. Legally it isn't too hard either, just a couple hoops to jump through.
>>74742971
Nah they can't go longer than years so has to be dissolved before sep (up to 2 month campaign)
Basically changed threshold so minor parties need higher primary vote vs their current tactic of vote farming and channeling to the more viable ones. They're caught flatfooted so will need 3 years to reorganise.
After that passed called double dissolution so they'll all be cleaned out.
>mfw there are like far right 6 anti muslim parties, none will get high enough
In a war, healthy young males like us may lose our lives?
Many of us posting on 4chan right now--even in this thread--might be killed.
And we tell ourselves that we're tough and clever, so we'll survive, but accidents, mistakes, traps, ambushes, and advanced weaponry can and will happen. Scary as fuck.
>>74738677
Wew lad. That must suck.
It's kind of the opposite here. People laugh and don't take you seriously when you consider gypsies equal citizens.
The best way would be something inbetween the two. However if I had to choose I would choose ours.
>>74734897
New Zealand hasn't been invaded by millions of refugees is his point I think famalan
>>74743732
Yeah I know. Nothing is really happening here. We do have elections next year though.
>>74740031
No, Welly. Studying here for one semester, moving back next month.
>>74743636
Sure, a lot of us could die, but don't forget that we still have the military, the police etc. those are mainly acting for the right-winged.
>>74743909
Yeah but in a war, we'll all be conscripted, so we'll become the military.
Hungarian will be interesting.
I assume the president doesn't have much power, but still it'll be interesting to see what the public thinks about Fidesz.
French will bei nteresting with Le Pen, and German with the AfD and Merkel.
>>74744347
France will be a repeat of 2002 unless ISIS does something HUGE
