Did an engagement shoot on Sunday that I'm particularly fond of.
equipment: Canon 6d, 135L, 2x Baja b4, assistant with a reflector and a pentax k50 for BTS.
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Gonna leave it at 3 for now, but will post more if it seems like there is interest.
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>>2877533
this photo has a color cast you should fix
do you have any photos where they don't look like they're about to storm the beaches of Normandy?
>>2877540
I gave it that color cast on purpose after sending four different micro-proposals: a perfectly balanced white balance, one with a warm cast, one with a slight cool cast, and one with a slight cool cast and magenta undertones (which they chose).
And here you go friend. A smile just for you :-)
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Nope.
>>2877554
My assistant is better than yours.
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These are fuckin awful. Did you even try giving your clients instructions while posing so they didn't look like constipated angry Latinos in a forced marriage because he knocked her up?
>>2877544
can you photoshop her gummy smile out and do something with his awful hair?
are they all portrait style?
did you not take any with them posing in front of some nice architecture or nice trees or water feature or something like that
>>2877544
his skin tones are still really fucked up in that photo, so I guess the other photos were from the other proposals?
you need to work on getting people to relax, that dude does not look at ease in that photo
poor choice in earrings. reflecting all over the place my man
>>2877590
i dunno they look good to me
>>2877595
they look fine themselves, but it's leaving marks all over their faces. makes their skin looked fucked up
>>2877534
wew lad. happy marriage on the horizon.
>>2877601
I see what you mean
>>2877532
You flat out missed the focus. The focus is on her shoulder, not her face. Also, whatever editing you did to her skin turn it into garbage.
>>2877533
Man that light blows. He looks like a guy wearing a cheap rented tux who's not used to wearing a suit of any kind. He also looks constipated. Also, he looks angry. And the color is all fucked up. Also, he's way the fuck too far to the left of the frame. You've taken the RoT thing way too literally here.
>>2877534
Are these engagement photos are divorce photos? For fuck's sake they're the most unhappy couple I've ever seen. And man, the editing is just so fucking heavy handed. Whatever you're doing to the color looks fucking awful. Stop it. Just try to make it look natural before you start fucking things up.
>>2877544
At least they're smiling. They still look hot and uncomfortable as fuck. I guess that's what you get for putting them in a field in the middle of the day in the summer wearing shitty formal ware.
>>2877555
This is the best shot in the series.
And holy fuck, you had an assistant and this is all you achieved? Fucking hell, bro. This is terrible. The editing (particular the colors and whatever ways you fucked up the texture) is embarrassing.
>>2877532
>1/2000
>f/3.2
Fucking hell. And you were still shooting with a strobe and reflector? How much fucking light did you blast on these poor saps. They probably got skin cancer from this shoot.
>>2877652
Uh, focus is on her face in the OP. If you can count pores, it's in focus.
I mostly agree with the rest of your critique, heavy handed though it may be.
OP, you need to pull down the red in these. Dude looks like he's either sunburned or an alcoholic or has rosacea (which he might). Use the HSL module tab to your advantage if you're just doing all of these in lightroom.
Also, what's with all of the space on the right side of the frame in all of these? Is your left arm shorter than your right arm or what?
>>2877566
Bad suggestion, cheesy as fuck and screams I-don't-know-what-I'm-doing.
>>2877590
The sequins in the dress are what's reflecting the light spots like a disco ball.
>>2877534
Her 'stache is fuller than his would be.
The post processing looks weird. You lifted the blacks too much so it just looks flat and lifeless. The skin tones are really terrible and that's the most important thing to focus on when you're processing stuff like this. I think you might not have a very good grasp of light because these have a dirty feel to them and I think you would have been much better off just using natural light.
>>2877926
yeah fuck environment shots every wedding photo should look like your portrait from the junior prom
0/10 these aren't even Sugar-tier
git gud m80
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>tfw
>steal Sugars gear
>dont steal the sugarmobile
probably couldnt afford the insurance anyway
Mega-reply incoming
>>2877558
they specifically requested this style after a consultation session where they settled on a serious mood for their photos. So...
>>2877563
Terrible.
>>2877578
Get your eyes checked friend-o, the skin tones are fine :-)
>>2877590
>>2877595
>>2877601
I shot photos with and without the reflections. Ultimately liked the reflections more because they add another dimension to the photos. To each his own.
>>2877652
"flat out missed the focus"
See screenshot attached and apologize.
>>2877689
Legit cracked up at this. Ended up not using the strobes because the bright sunlight gave the reflector enough kick to negate the need for them.
>>2877696
I like to leave a little empty frame in almost all of my portraits. Not sure why, but it pleases me, and self-pleasure what ultimately matters right?
>>2877936
But these are all natural light lol
>>2877926
Totally agreed. Maybe they hired me because I don't do the same wide-angle-flash-burn-in-front-of-a-cool-landmark shot every other photog does?
>>2878029
Don't shit on yourself just because that's the soup du jour. I happen to enjoy most of your photos. But I get it,trashing Sugar is cool here, even if that means trashing yourself. Carry on friend ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>2878223
buddy there is not a single person in this thread who have said these are good photos
you are completely delusional
>>2878226
I have a business tho
>>2878228
as long as there is white water to muddy you do. Keep snapping shots of the BLACKED set before they start shooting for real though.
>>2878228
>buy 5d mkiii
>buy 70-200 2.8
>shoot subject wide open with subject a long way from background
Look mum I'm a wedding photographer.
>>2878228
look you're not totally incompetent, you clearly know something about lighting and camera use, but you've obviously got a lot of room to grow (do you really want to be a wedding photographer for the rest of your life?) the areas in which I'd guess you need work are: 1) rapport with your models -- none of these poses look natural 2) postprocessing skills -- your color sense is iffy and you clearly don't incorporate blemish correction into your workflow 3) creativity
>>2878228
Your mother also has a business sucking cocks for money. It doesn't mean she's very good at it. It just means she's cheap and there.
>>2878228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
>>2878266
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But not wrong.
>>2877532
Looks like she's throwing the first pitch at a baseball game.
>>2878344
Can't unsee.
>>2878266
Not only is that insult pretty good, but it's actually a helpfully accurate comparison to OP's silliness.
Nice job, bro. Nice job.
>>2877544
I've never understood why people do this?
Why not just send the the correctly balanced photo that looks natural instead of variations? Are they even viewing on a calibrated monitor?
>>2877926
better than some people standing in the middle of a fucking field with some blurry trees in the background, nothing to the photo except her horrible smile and his greasy hair
not saying make some building the subject of the photo but still focused on the couple just in a more photographic environment such as a nice garden or waterfall, adding to the overall photo
theres a reason most pro wedding photographers do it, because it looks good
>>2877544
>I gave it that color cast on purpose after sending four different micro-proposals
>after sending four different micro-proposals
That's a fucking terrible idea. You're the photographer. Not the client. They don't get to pick shit like that.
First off, the fact that you gave them an option is fucking hilarious.
Second, the fact that you even gave them THIS particular option is even worse. So not only are you letting clients make decisions for you, but you're actually giving them shitty options to choose from.
Somebody in this thread already said it best: That color makes him look like a raging alcoholic.
>>2878464
>theres a reason most pro wedding photographers do it, because it looks good
Bullshit.
Wedding photographers, by and large, do shit because it's trendy and because it's what morons with no taste like. Decisions are made based on whatever flavor of the month trend is hip on Pinterest, not what looks good.
>>2878467
its not a trend though, its been done for years and years
>>2878471
>its been done for years and years
It's been done ≠It's good
Cheesy shit has been done for years and years and years. It will continue to be done. That will never make it good.
These photos suck for a whole host of reasons. The lighting is horrendous. The processing is horrendous. The wardrobe is horrendous. The composition is horrendous. The composition is horrendous. The posing and facial expressions of the two are horrendous.
Putting these two next to some cheesy ass fountain wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference.
>>2878488
if they got married somewhere they care about it would
these photos look like they were taken on the highschool football field, they don't capture the event of the wedding
>>2878497
It would probably help if you actually took a few moments to read OP's explanation of what this is:
>>2877532
>Did an engagement shoot
>engagement
Nothing about this shoot makes sense. It doesn't make sense why he's in a cheap rented tux. It doesn't make sense why she's in a cheap prom dress. It doesn't make sense that it's in a fucking baseball field. It doesn't make sense that it was shot on the brightest, hottest day of the year.
>>2877532
she looks like shes about to pitch a fastball. oh and one the count
>>2878223
>But these are all natural light lol
Then why do list what light you used as well as have a picture of your assistant holding a strobe?
>>2878226
This dude. This is exactly why you will never get any better. This place is full of assholes that talk shit no matter what but this whole thread is offering you actual advice that applies to what you're doing wrong but you refuse to accept it.
For the most part these photos are pretty good albeit a little overexposed. I think my only major critique is that they are oversaturated. I agree with the statement that the picture of your assistant was better than the pictures of your subjects. So just chillax bro, don't go overboard on stuff.
Keep going banished one, I know it's disappointing for you, but you gotta listen to the critique instead of simply posing as a pro. I personally like the cover picture (albeit the baseball comparison is more than accurate), you just gotta be keep working man.
>>2877532
>engagement shoot
What the fuck is an engagement shoot?
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>>2879577
>durr what's an engagement photos?
are you from one of those turd world shithole countries where people are forced into prearranged marriages, usually between some old goatfucker and teenage virgin?
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>>2879577
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>>2879577
if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.
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>>2879577
>he doesn't know engagement shoot
>top kek
Do you even centaur, anon?
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>TFW no centaur fiancee for long trots and surf sunsets
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Pro Tip: good engagement shoot has many pictures to show man is strong like bull
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>>2878223
kys my man
>>2879665
>unironically
opinion discarded, faggot.
inb4 "toxic", "problematic", "literally", "just wow"
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>>2879750
top kek
>>2879750
>mfw the quality of this edit looks better than the original
>>2879750
this is epic
>>2879750
10/10
>>2879750
>>2879750
you are the hero that /p/ needs
>>2877534
His nose looks like the surface of mars
>>2879801
Leave Mars alone. It's not that bad.
>>2879750
a meme is born
>>2878226
>buddy there is not a single person in this thread who have said these are good photos
/p/ tho
>>2879808
Logical fallacy. Just because /p/ hates everything doesn't mean that the hate for these aren't justified.
Also, /p/ doesn't hate everything.
Also, these actually suck.
>>2879750
Stellar job, anon.
Please put a baseball cap on this lovely pitcher. A Trump MAGA cap would be even better.
that man is punching
>>2877532
i'm not gonna go through each one, because there really isn't even enough good quality in here to critique. but:
you need to learn how to focus
you need to learn how to compose
you need to learn how to post process
you need to learn how to correctly use a strobe
looks like the setup is a little too complex for you. most people learn how to take decent photos before jumping into paid shoots with prosumer grade gear. it's called "honing your craft." this step comes before paid work. these are so trash i genuinely feel sorry for the couple.
>>2878029
nah bro. while its really cute that you've completely given up on trying to sound knowledgeable or give advice, these are still light years ahead of anything you've ever posted. don't try to use bad photos as an excuse to post you're even shittier snapshits.
>>2878223
if you blow up here eyes, and they're soft compared to her shoulder. guess what?
(you missed focus, badly)
>>2880490
>these are still light years ahead of anything you've ever posted
Fuck off. Even if you hate Sugar's personality, that's just plain false. He's horribly inconsistent as a photographer, but to say that this train wreck of a thread is better than *everything* Sugar's ever posted is just silly.
