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Resize your stuff, nerds!

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>>2876428

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>>2876429
Read the fucking sticky.
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>>2876431

Clicked on the wrong one in my folder, sorry bro.

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Light leaks are radical duuuude
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>>2876428

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>>2876428

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>>2876458
This was literally the OP image in the last RPT. Fuck off with your snapshit.
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>>2876460
Yeah, cos it was own of my recent photographs you fucking retard
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>>2876485
Yeah and you already posted it last thread, so why post it again you dumb cunt? We don't need to see your trash more than once to realise how talent-less you are.
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In the last thread, someone said that the building in this shot is about 100 stops underexposed, so I increased shadow brightness and switched to bilateral filter rather than gaussian. Or was he talking about general exposure while taking the shot, because I dont know what else to do with a bright background oither than shoot one or two stops underexposed. I dont want giant, flat, white blobs instead of clouds

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>>2876492
Welp. How do I keep my EXIF data after tinkering around on Photoshop?
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>>2876489
Talent-less, over one photo? Wew lad.

I posted it again for some constructive criticism. Why do people like you act as if everyone who picks up a camera should be an expert immediately, and shit on them for trying to get some feedback?

No need to be a cunt when this is a board for sharing your shit.
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Friendly reminder that RPT's are killing the board.
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>>2876573
I thought the slow death of the photography fad was killing the board?
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>>2876573

What would you rather see? Another fucking gear thread?
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>>2876428
>those man hands, goddamn
is she literally trash or are you suggesting she is a cum dumpster?
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>>2876429
>resize this
>cliche garbage
every millennial faggot has this same shot on their IG or FB with some faggy reference to Robert Frost
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>>2876491
ETTR if you can m8.
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>>2876630
your pics suck hairy ass crack
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>>2876631
Yea ok

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>>2876612

I would rather see people build small (or large) sets of their photography and start their own threads.
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>>2876633
Trip on isi trying to justify your own constant shitposting of photos
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>>2876635

I'm not isi, I think isi's cult of personality is destroying the board, but I do think she's on the right track with her photo posting.

I mean, this is how /p/ USED to work, long before 90% of this board "got into" photography, before burtgummer made the first rpt.
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>>2876573
We've always had RPT's on /p/.
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>>2876636
It's more the cult of anti-isi destroying the board
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>>2876636
Put your trip back on you cunt.
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>>2876637
No we haven't you ridiculous newfag. 2006-2010 no RPT
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>>2876637

No, we sure haven't. Maybe in the time that you've been here, sure, but they weren't "always" a thing. Like I said, Burt made the very first one, probably around 2011 or so.
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>>2876628
Exposing to the right seems exactly like what I don't want in regards to clouids.
Buildings have flat and simple brightness gradients, but clouds have so complicated ones and different areas. Wouldn't they look completely unnatural if they lost those intricate details?
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4th of july stuff

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>>2876630
the negativity stems from the complete lack of effort that went into this shot anon.
>>2876632
Much better, aesthetic and feelworthy
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>>2876647
ETTR doesn't mean blowing out the highlights, it just means exposing to the point where highlights are still recoverable. You made it sound like you were exposing for the sky and only balancing the exposure by raising shadows. There should be headroom at both ends of the sensor that you can make use of.
If your camera lets you adjust the EVF (jpeg) output use a low contrast setting and your histogram will give you a better idea of the actual raw DR. Then experiment a bit to see how close to clipping you can get the histogram before the resulting raw file has unrecoverable highlights.
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>>2876652
>>2876655
you're taking pictures of stuff you think is neat. everyone does this at first, but you need to move away from that and think about the visual interest of the whole picture. It might be possible to get an interesting picture of that webworm tent as a macro photo looking inside the world of the caterpillars or emphasizing the lines of the web and the woven branches
>>2876649
you've got counterpoint here (dead/alive), boring execution. at least your subject isn't centered.
>>2876650
most visually appealing one but that's probably just because of the high contrast. would be better if there was another tree in the lower left, or if the slices of trees at top and bottom weren't there (sloppy framing for such a simple idea). I also want more detail in the tree -- its silhouette isn't that interesting.
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>>2876676
Ok, when you say "exposing", do you talk about something done during the shoot or during the post-processing? Because What I thought is going a stop or two above the ideal point, while I normally go a stop or two below and then correct in post.
Also, I shoot in RAW. I rarely shoot in JPG, mostly when doing continous shots.
I also already have all contrast and saturation set to minimum in a custom setting.
As far as I know, "clipping" means when the histogram blows all the way upwards in some areas, right?
My histogramm doesnt change when changing the shutter/iso/aperture, it just goes from yellow to white when I hit what it considers "the sweet spot"
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>>2876487

>Ipecac: The Photo
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>>2876678
Ok, I checked, i set Saturation to -2, not all the way to -5. But I also set Sharpness to -5 because I do a lot of video, and I was told it prevents those weird lines when having something striped in the picture.
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>>2876428
I honestly am curious if you purposefully put her over the word "trash." I mean, what message are you trying to send?

>>2876436
This is a dark phone of nothing. This doesn't look moody or atmospheric or whatever bullshit aesthetic you were going for. This is just flat out underexposed.

>>2876440
It's a common shot, but you did fine with it. It's not a great version of this, but it's adequate. Too much sky and the hiker's feet are too lose to the edge of the frame, but other than that it's alright. It should get a dozen or so likes on Facebook and be completely forgotten.

>>2876446
Yep, that's a shit, unfocused, grainy as fuck shot of cats doing nothing with a massive light leak. Good job. Honestly, why the fuck even post this? Why do you think this is worth anybody's time?

>>2876458
>I posted it again for some constructive criticism.
It's boring. There's nothing here. It's two plants with shit floating in the air. There's no real indication of what where supposed to be looking at or why. Even if you just take it as an abstract shot of shit floating in the air, there are no interest shapes or composition. Why did you take this shot? Why do you like it? You want constructive criticism, tell me why you shot it and what you wanted us to see.

>>2876459
It's a sunset. It's no different than any other sunset. The colors are fine. The composition with the trees makes the whole thing feel imbalanced and lopsided. Other than just an exercise of trying to expose a sunset there's not really anything here.

>>2876467
This could've been a killer shot, but the composition and balance is really uneven. You were standing too far to the left of center, and it shows. You've done the best you could with perspective from where you were standing, but it's clear that you weren't centered. If you're trying to get a centered shot like this, you need to be fucking dead on.
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>>2876492
The dutch angle is awful and disorienting. The lighting is also bad. The post-processing needs a lot of work. It's not very sharp and the silhouettes don't really stand out very well.
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>>2876487
Nice job for what it is. Not the most interesting texture or pattern, but that's most a comment on the subject than the execution. It probably could use a tad more contrast. It feels a little dull for a minimalism B&W shot.

>>2876491
>Or was he talking about general exposure while taking the shot
That. I wasn't that anon, but you can tell just looking at this that you tried to recover massive amounts from the shadows. You can get away with a little bit of exposure compensation in post, but not the amount you were going for. Even still, if you had shot the exposure perfectly, there doesn't appear to be any thought to composition here. It's a muddled mess of shapes.

>>2876492
>Welp. How do I keep my EXIF data after tinkering around on Photoshop?
What's your workflow? Ps doesn't automatically scrub EXIF data, so it's getting lost in some weird step probably. As for the show itself, I think I get what you were going for with trying to make the light posts along a horizontal line. First, the idea is shitty. But, if you're going to do it, make sure it's executed perfectly. Here, they're not horizontal; they're just crooked.

>>2876566
Step up your rib game with spare ribs. That way you won't have to sauce them to cover up the lack of flavor.

>>2876630
This is terrible. There are no redeeming qualities to this photo.

>>2876632
>3.61 MB, 4272x2848
Thank goodness you gave us this blurry photo of a tiny little bird doing nothing in shitty colors.

>>2876649
>>2876650
>>2876652
>>2876655
You need to listen to: >>2876677 This are clearly just the first few snapshits of somebody who just got their first camera and who just figured out aperture. It doesn't matter if it catches your eye, if it doesn't produce a good photograph then who cares. Identifying interesting things is only half the battle. (Protip: These things aren't even interesting. This is shit anybody could see by walking outisde.)
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>>2876459
I don't like the framing here, the tree isn't large enough to act as an anchor to the picture so it is just a distraction. The frame cuts off the right edge of the cloud in a clumsy way. but I disagree with what >>2876682 said, it has potential as an abstract. I might be biased though, I've been taking a lot of these pictures lately.
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>>2876656
Interesting. The execution blows, but I feel like there's a good picture to be had here. I'd definitely go back and reshoot if I were you. There's way too much wasted space at the top and let of the frame.

>>2876657
That fill light in the foreground doesn't add anything at all.

>>2876683
This is pretty sweet. I dig the balance of the composition, which is a little trickier for square shots. So what's going on with all this stuff? Is this the remnants of a firework shot? Because, if so, that's neat as fuck. I've never seen that particular thing captured that way.

>>2876660
This is just boring.

>>2876668
This is fine. It's cluttered for a fireworks shot, but it's not horrible. Nothing to write home about.
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shot this the day i picked up my lens
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Thanks man <3

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>>2876688
>it has potential as an abstract
There is nothing about this shot that would make it abstract. It's clearly just a tree silhouette against a sunset. It's as much of a literal, straight forward representation of the scene as you could get.
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>>2876678
By "exposing" I mean during the shot.
Just looked at your cams manual - the histogram not moving is a weird one...
Try using zebras at 105% to give an indication of when the raw file clips.
Appreciate you only shoot raw. Sounds like you've already got your settings right if you've minimised contrast.
Nice shot btw (didn't see the original) ;)
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>>2876699
>There is nothing about this shot that would make it abstract. It's as much of a literal, straight forward representation of the scene as you could get.
look I don't want an internet fight but I respectfully disagree. the background is not "a sunset", it's a cloud lit by a sunset (and what's more abstract than a cloud?), and the form and lighting of the cloud provide a fair amount of complex visual interest, IMO. The smooth transitions between highly contrasting colors also provide visual interest and help to delineate form. if the tree wasn't there and the framing was adjusted it could be a pretty picture indeed.
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>>2876682
Appreciate the crit about being slightly to the left of centre, but if we extend that logic I'd have needed a viewer on each bench to meet your standard of geometric perfection...though that does give me an idea.
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>>2876686
>muddled shapes.
I tried getting the Bell and the Cross on one line while havin g the cross at 2/3 horizontal and the bell at 2/3 vertical
The angels kind of ruin the shot imho.
>>2876701
I turned on Zebra and I am somewhat confused.
It doesn't change based on aperture/ise/shutter either, but sometimes it "triggers" when a bright object is outside the center and goes away when it is in the center of the shot.
Also, should I mess with shadows/highlights in the settings or keep it a straight line?
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>>2876708
Do you have exposure set to centre or average/matrix? That could be what's causing the freaky zebra behaviour.
I would reduce shadows and highlights a bit and see how that works IRL.
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Just a quick portrait of my friend while out and about. I'm just starting up again after several years. unfortunately I sold all my cameras but have invested in a Galaxy S7 which I am using as my main digital. It makes for a great Camera but I'm very fearful of dropping it.

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>>2876712
>reduce shadows and highlights
Wouldn't that crush blacks?
Also, I am completely out of my depth here. I found "metering mode" which I can set for "whole screen", "spot" and "center" but I guess this applies to focus as well.
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>>2876707
Yeah, no, the guy sitting on the seat has nothing to do with the perspective of the room. He's an important element, but he doesn't make the shot itself crooked. The perspective issues deal with the lines on the ceiling, the lines on the floor, the walls, etc. Having a person doesn't make or break it. He's really a non-element as far as perspective is concerned.

The issue with this shot is perspective, not necessarily symmetry. The perspective affects the symmetry, but that's just a symptom, not the problem itself. Check out pic related. The red dot is dead center. But the leading lines in your room push the eyes all over the place. The lines converge all over on the left hand side of the frame, which puts the shot off balance.

Not all shots have to be perfectly centered. Your leading lines don't have to converge at the exact center of the room, but in this shot you're ALMOST centered, but not quite, and that's the problem. If you're going to go for a centered shot, then fucking nail it. If you don't want a centered shot, then don't be 98% of the way centered. It throws the whole balance off.
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>>2876721
Holy mother of god m8. Ok.

I fucking hate reshoots.

PS thanks - I appreciate the effort you put into the perspective breakdown. I'm going to have dreams about misaligned green lines now.
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>>2876706
>look I don't want an internet fight
Then quit spouting out shit when you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

>and what's more abstract than a cloud?
You clearly have no clue what the word "abstract" means.

A cloud can be an abstract representation of something else, or you can shoot a picture of a cloud that's so abstract that you don't know it's a cloud. But if it's just a straight up picture of a cloud it's in no way abstract. Is this shot trying to represent the oppression of refugees in third world countries? Sure, then it may be an abstract shot. But shapeless does not fucking equal abstract. A picture of a cloud is just a picture of a cloud. What's more abstract than a cloud? Fucking anything that's actually abstract.

>the background is not "a sunset", it's a cloud lit by a sunset
Stop being a pedantic cunt. It's a fucking sunset.
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>>2876728
Fuck it. There's no need to reshoot, unless you just really want this shot. I say fuck it and move on.

My advice is just this: When you're shooting a shot that has lots of natural lines (usually dealing with architecture), then slow down just a bit and think about where you physically are in relation to the room. If you've got wooden floors, look at the lines on the floor. If you've got straight edges on the ceiling, look at those. If you've got benches with a gap in the room, make sure you're really centered between them. If you're off by a few inches in either direction, it really makes or breaks a shot.

And, again, this is only because the shot is ALMOST centered. Not every shot has to have perfect symmetry. But if you're going to go for it, then get it done.

It's a cool scene otherwise.
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>>2876720
By "reduce" I mean raise shadows. Sorry, my bad.
Metering mode won't affect focus. Use "whole screen" and see if that makes it behave a bit better.
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>>2876715
...how dark was this shot before you started trying to rape the exposure and shadow sliders?
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>>2876736
Yes, but a bit still remains. I'm using my monitor as test subject. some parts are still zebra-ing when at the edge of the screen.
Also, in video mode I already did the shadow-highlights thing. do I still need to repear that step in post-processing? Because in colour correction I often end up with a very contrasted image, especially because I set gamma-master to something like 0.8.
I never know when to apply what kind of processing., because most tutorials focus either on the shoot or on the editing, never both.
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>>2876729
here is a crop of that photo that I consider abstract. I'm not really interested in arguing with you over semantics, although I will say if your idea of the meaning of abstract art is representational art:
>Is this shot trying to represent the oppression of refugees in third world countries? Sure, then it may be an abstract shot.
your opinions deviate sharply from those of the rest of the art world.

I would just like to assure this guy >>2876459 that, although his photo isn't great, not everybody agrees with your assessment that it's "just a sunset"
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>>2876738
Not very, is it general etiquette to post unedited shots in these threads?
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>>2876491
Kek I was that anon. This is obviously a lot better, but you were underexposed to start with. As the others have said, expose to the right without blowing highlights, use blinkies if you like.byou then don't have to do as much shadow recovery. The light was probably difficult in this situation anyway, as it looks like the building was in at least partial shadow. Choose your subjects and the times at which to shoot them.
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>>2876546
OK, I'll bite. I'm not that guy, but it looks like youve attempted to take a photo of a couple of weed plants through a dirty window with a semi glaring weak light source from the right, and some sort of aggressive flash. There are not many positives to point out unfortunately.
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>>2876573
People whining about the rpt, people posting endless gear questions when there is a gear thread, Mexicans asking for Photoshop, and tripfags are what's killing the board. The rpt can give good advice. My own photos have come a long way since I first posted my own photos here, got some good tips from anons.

It's a good resource, id be happier if some people put in even a modicum of effort, but it is what it is. If you don't like it, you can always filter it, and stop contributing to the boards downfall.
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>>2876630
No effort applied at all. Shithouse light, cut of the right of the car to start with. It's also just sitting in your driveway. I take better pictures when selling a car on eBay. Find a nice location, and some nice light, and try again.
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>>2876766

Explain how to me how a single unnavigable thread for all the board's original content is better than people just posting their own individual photo threads.
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>>2876769
/cozy/

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>>2876715
Underexposed, strange skin tone.
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>>2876491
imo the highlights on those clouds are still underexposed. I get what you're saying about wanting contrast there, but they look unnaturally dark
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>>2876783
>>2876627

lmao
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>>2876783
>Validating yourself to 4chan
>Any year

God damn if you're that fragile then don't post here
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>>2876771
A lot of the people posting in here have only one or 2 photos. This is going to overhwlem people, and likely result.in less feedback. I agree, if someone has a set (probably 5 or more) they should post their own thread. However, I have done this in the past and received very little feedback, while at the time an abortion of an isi thread had hit bump limit from people shitposting. For one or two photos, rpt is perfect. It's easily filterable if people don't want to see one or two random snapshits, and if people feel like giving some crit they can auite easily, and the people here are often the ones that need it most.
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>>2876783
>Was also me. Not my favorite shot either, but I just wanted to let you know it's at about 750 likes right now on IG soooo ya know whatever

I don't have inst, and I don't really feel like being mean this morning, but from what I've seen of it, if you post something with at least 10% effort, and apply some sort of vsco filter, you will get a lot if likes. Bonus points are awarded if someone is hiking.
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>>2876789

Wait until you have more than two photos. It's that simple.

Build up a set, which is what you should be doing anyway, and then post them at all once. It makes no sense to trickle them out, one by one, and to have every single one of them either totally ignored or given a half-assed critique by some guy who's trying to do 50 different critiques for 50 different photographers in ten minutes.
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>>2876776
Exposure was intentional in post processing to my taste. Unsure why the skin tone is strange though. Really more of a test of the S7 camera than anything else, same with this.

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>>2876772

fuck that looks comfy
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>>2876798

manlet spotted
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>>2876757
What lens?
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>>2876794
look it's easier for some people to start out in the recent photo threads and they're obviously wildly popular in this community, just get over it
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>>2876789
Let's not pretend you have even an ounce of the thought behind your threads that isi ones do.
They're goldmines. She mixes in normal artistry with self-aware intentionally-bad photos and an attitude to create a full experience for all viewing the thread.

Love her or hate her, what she does is the most art this board currently gets, whether through her photos or through her manipulation of anonymous sheeple.
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>>2876739
I'm not sure the monitor is a good test subject. It's strobing so who knows what it's doing to the cam.
Rule of thumb, get the exposure as even as possible when you shoot then fine tune in pp. ideally the histogram fills up as much space as possible (i.e. there's information in shadows, mids and highlights) unless you're deliberately crushing blacks or clipping highlights.
The in camera shadow highlight thing is so what you're looking at in the viewfinder is as close to a linear film curve interpretation of the raw file when you expose at the time of shooting as possible. That's how you judge the right exposure when shooting. If you want extra contrast in the final result add it in post.
Is auto WB fucking things up as well? Don't understand the gamma reference.
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>>2876809

kek.

nah, i won't get over it. unlike you, i actually like this board and want it to thrive and prosper, instead of be a safe place to hide my snapshits. ;)

enjoy flushing your photos down the Recent Photo Toilet!
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>>2876715
you crushed the blacks in his clothes so it doesn't look like they have any folds. not a great look imo. other than that it's a cool portrait. you might consider cropping it but I kinda like all the headroom now that I'm thinking about it
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>>2876794
I do post sets. Newfags don't, and shouldn't, as most of there stuff is missing the absolute basics of photography. Why waste their time taking weeks/months to make a set of absolute shit, when they could post a random photo in here and get instant feedback. Mft guy has been getting good feedback in these last few threads and is getting better.
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>>2876812
why don't you put your trip back on
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>>2876812
The irony is every thread on this board eventually gets flushed. It's just a question of how fast that happens. Choices are RPT or 50 odd individual photo threads a day.

A permanent repository this is not, nor will it ever be.
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>>2876800
This is beautiful, anon!
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>>2876810
She posts the same shit repeatedly, some with ridiculous colours, most are snapshits. There are many far more talented photographer on here than isi. Whether mine are better than hers or not is not the issue, the shitstorm she creates is, and her stuff is just the same shit regurgitated.

Obligatory - put your trip back on isi.
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th-thank you.

Here's another recent one that I liked

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>>2876822
name a good photographer whose subject matter is not repetitive in some way
this is how you get good at photography, son
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>>2876785
nice colors. you blew out the red channel which is why the sky at right is that gross orange. also watch your lens flares (green blob at left). I don't like the 1/2 framing though, I want to look further down into this picture. try framing these scenes as 2/3 mountains or 2/3 sky
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>>2876740
>semantics
Let's play a game. How about you find me any dictionary or art textbook that defines "abstract" in a way that would include a boring ass picture of a regular cloud in a regular sunset.

Since you're so confident that the art world is behind you, it should be easy.
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>>2876822
>She posts the same shit repeatedly, some with ridiculous colours, most are snapshits.
You sound like you formed your opinion of isi by the shitposting and not by the photos.
She has more than a few good photos, objectively, regardless of how many shitty ones she posts as well to irritate people that hate her.

http://m3.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto4128-1639577.jpg
http://m3.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto0052v2-1639614.jpg
http://m3.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto2545v1-1639592.jpg
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>>2876833
>one centered interesting object, a road in the fog, and a blown-out mono lake sunset
>good photos
wut
I mean I have nothing against isi but there's only one of those photos fits my definition of good, at best, and that's only because I can't figure out what the object is
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>>2876826
I have no problem with repetitive in "some way". Then there is taking the exact same photo, of the exact same tree stump, 8000 times.

>>2876833
Nope, I form my own opinions. I've admitted on many occasions that she has some good photos, it's just that a lot of them aren't. You can continue to keep trying to get a piece of that purple godess, but whitenighting on the internet probably won't help.

Honestly, just look at the number of pictures she takes, compared to the number of actual good photos. An appropriate analogy is the monkeys with typewriters, have them type enough, and eventually theyll turn out a masterpiece, its simple odds.
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>>2876834
I think you have unrealistic definition of good then. Can you post some good photos?

Good doesn't mean exciting, btw. I'm not arguing she shoots exciting subjects.
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>>2876811
With Gamma I mean "Lift/Gamma/Gain" or "Colour Correction" in post processing programs.
I heard RAW files are just all the information that hits the sensor, so does Adjusting Contrast and Saturation and Curves etc. even impact the RAW? It impacts the videos I'm making since they're MP4.
Also, I don't know what you mean by "linear film curve interpretation of the raw file". Generally I dont understand that entire sentence.
Should I mess with Shadows/Highlights curves in the camera or not? Should I generally try to achieve to an as flat as possible end result?
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>>2876843
>Honestly, just look at the number of pictures she takes, compared to the number of actual good photos.
Now you're reaching. She's a Fuji shooter with manual focus lenses, she is obviously not just snapping off 11fps constantly and picking frames.
And even if you weren't, have you ever seen HCB's contact sheets? He'd take like 40 shots of a location until he got the one he wanted. If you're judging isi for this, your newfag is showing.
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>>2876843
>Then there is taking the exact same photo, of the exact same tree stump, 8000 times.
Can you link to this? I'm just not seeing it on her website, though this is at least the third time I've seen you say that.
I do see many different compositions of a few different subjects, but that's very different than what you describe.
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>>2876854
what do you mean unrealistic? I don't feel the least bit tempted to even SAVE any of those photos. there's plenty of stuff that's been on /p/ that I've liked more than that, just look at any of the photobooks. "unrealistic" is expecting people to think your photo is good just because it's correctly exposed, or because you tried (and like I said, one of those doesn't even pass that test).
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Can people start talking about the actual photos in this thread ?
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>>2876870
I see what the problem is. You mistake your personal taste, what you like and dislike, for an objective valuation of how well the thing was pulled off.
You don't like the things she shoots, even though you begrudgingly admit she gets the exposures right, and you have nothing to say about the compositions.

This is why visual arts should be taught in gradeschool.
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>>2876880
this looks really voyeuristic, partly because you didn't show the person she's talking to and partly because you're looking through a window from a dominant position at her. it's creepy.
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>>2876834
>blown out
You know I've started to notice that when photos have extreme exposures that might go outside of the range of consumer monitors, /p/ tends not to like them.

I guess it's a real problem if no one even knows their monitors are bad.
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>>2876885
>dominant position
found the womens studies student from Berkley who has a penis as well as boobs
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>>2876883
They'd be better if she put pretty girls in most of them. Dunno why she doesn't use more pretty girls.
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i find color photography hard. almost everything looks good in black and white

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>>2876886
you are completely fucking retarded, it's an sRGB jpg and the red channel is overexposed. just look at the histogram.
>>2876883
>the only valid critique of a photo is an analysis of whether it is correctly exposed, or a reduction into its fundamental geometry
yeah you're right, they really ought to teach basic visual art in gradeschool
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>>2876858
Aight. When looking through the viewfinder at the scene you're photographing, you want a flat image - the histogram and zebras/blinkies are linked to that flat image. That flat image is the best representation of the scene to base your ETTR technique on. That flat image is a linear film curve, which is the simplest interpretation of the raw data. If you use a high contrast setting your histogram and blinkies will tell you that highlights are clipping well before they actually clip in the raw file. If you use a flat setting the histogram will show clipping just before the raw file clips. You need to judge from experience just how far to the right you can push the exposure before the raw file clips. It will be easier to do that with a flat image in the viewfinder.
The aim is to capture as much data in the raw file as possible.
Any clearer?
Once you have that raw file you can do whatever you want to it in pp, like reduce highlights , saturation, contrast, reduce the exposure, add brightness, change white balance or tint...whatever you need to make it look the way you want it.
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>>2876876

You first.
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>>2876895
>you are completely fucking retarded, it's an sRGB jpg and the red channel is overexposed. just look at the histogram.
This is bait or autism, I'm not sure which.
A blown red channel shooting into the sun or its immediately periphery is not the same thing as a "a blown-out mono lake sunset"
If you think you can take a photo like that without spiking your red channel, I'd love to see you try it.

A spiked red channel is not the same as blown highlights regardless. I think you don't really understand how to read a histogram and want it to be more objective than it is.
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thought this turned out brettygud for being shot form a moving car. One of the nicest looking sunsets I've seen recently
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>>2876901
>If you think you can take a photo like that without spiking your red channel, I'd love to see you try it.
it's not difficult pal, any serious landscape photographer underexposes sunsets and shoots at raw and maximum bit depth to solve this exact problem. and yes, the photograph is blown out. the effect is loss of color contrast in the highlights, her sky looks like a pizza pie.
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>>2876904
look at those clipped red channels baka
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>>2876906
Okay so troll, gotcha.
I'd suggest trying to up your quality past year-old moopco imitations.
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>>2876908
nice constructive reply asshole, I think I'm done responding to you
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>>2876752
imac desktop background/10

>>2876889
I like it except for the light streak at the bottom right. I'd photoshop that out, personally.
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r8 my vacation-tier snapshits on velveeta
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>>2876922
Not sure which I like better. first one has underexposed shadows but i like the guy standing at the top
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>>2876842
>http://m3.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto2545v1-1639592.jpg
I am a beginner but I will try to express my feelings about this photo. The fact that nothing is in focus and that I am looking directly into the sun hurts my brain. Maybe rotate your subject so he will show some face? I think that looking someone's flat back is kinda boring. I like the light on his shoulder, but that light would be even better on the face or something more interesting.
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>>2876923
second one's better. the guy detracts from the first one. I like the flat geometrical look of the first one but the reflection is cut off too early and the crop at the top is also kind of awkward
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>>2876925
no idea why that url is there
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>>2876668
pretty colors, wish it was wider, not so centered. great contrast, sky looks so dramatic it's delicious
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>>2876690
Paco's cotton candy is pretty colorful but you need to resize that shit.
Gather up your pesos, we're building a wall and it's going to be tall and it will protect us all. Mexico's going to pay for it.
MAGA
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>>2876922
I think I like this one better. It has a little more balance. I don't care for the guy, but the second one has too much water at the bottom and feels a bit crooked.
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>>2876937

>still trump trolling
>in july 2016

wew lad. three months ago called, they want their memes back
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1. remove distracting line on background
2. crop tighter

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>>2876941
There's no brakes on the Trump Train.
Come November, I'll be drinking your leftist tears of jelly and butthurt. Mmm... delicious.
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>>2876817

Yep, if there's one thing RPT's are known for, it's the quality feedback you get on every single photo.

>>2876818

You wouldn't recognize it if I did. I haven't tripped in at least five years.

>>2876819

That's not irony, that's why I hate the RPT. Why do people think concentrating all board's photos into a single thread that hits the bump limit almost immediately and then dies soon after is a good idea? It's counterintuitive to the way 4chan is structured and the way posting works.
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>>2876752
love this - is it film? no exif, what's going on here?
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>>2876753
very cool walrus/seal/sea lion creature covered rock. My eye went right to the light at the end of the tunnel, so you might consider shopping that part black and letting the animals be the brightest part of the frame. great job
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>>2876757
nailed this cute little guy.
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>>2876768
>hurr durr industrial
>guise, look it's a ladder
>b-but muh peeling paint and rust
when will this fucking meme die already?
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>>2876769
this would be a great panorama, right now too much sky and black bottom, crop half of the sky and half of the black bottom
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>>2876863
Does Fuji not have focus peaking and a large LCD? That's a rhetorical question by the way.

>And even if you weren't, have you ever seen HCB's contact sheets? He'd take like 40 shots of a location until he got the one he wanted. If you're judging isi for this, your newfag is showing.

Thanks for proving my point. "He'd take 40 shots until he got the one he wanted". He didn't post every single one of them for critique hoping that at least one would be good. There was actual curation. If you don't realise this, your new is showing.

>>2876868
I'm not going through all her photos to link it. Shes posted it her a million times, I've called her out on it, and she's admitted to it, so if you feel like arguing with the person who actual tool the pictures and admitted doing so, go ahead. It's the dead tree stump with roots that is partially submerged if you really want to be a detective and try to prove both myself and isi wrong about her own photographs.

I'll also reiterate for those of you that are a little simple. She takes some good photos. She also takes a lot of shit ones. That's fine. The issue arrises when anons call her out for posting 80 photos, perhaps 2 or 3 of which are good. She then defends the fuck out of the shit ones as "muh art".
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>>2876885
I personally don't find it voyeuristic, creepy, or "dominant". Simply capturing a moment in time of some day in a fairly decent way to be honest.
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I've been taking pictures like a madman lately, I'm very happy with this shot.
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>>2876772
1. bad angle, you should have either gone one giant step to the left, or committed to one point perspective on wall with window. Note, the one point perspective is a much more difficult shot because you have to nail not just the verticals, but also the horizontals.
2. too high, you only need to be about 18 inches (about half meter) above the tub.
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>>2876964
Hey moopco did isi touch you on reddit again
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>>2876964
Her boring photos show repetition of themes and ideals deeper than making a pretty picture.
Are you familiar with William Christenberry at all? You should be if you're looking at isi and thinking "boring"
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>>2876969
you shouldn't be. the sweat bee is out of focus, the red channel is blown out so your flowers don't look right, the angle is awkward (should be lower I think), and the composition is lousy. flower bunches at top right and bottom distract and the subject of your photograph, the bee, is awkwardly positioned (would be better on the left, people read photographs left to right).
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>>2876948
>Yep, if there's one thing RPT's are known for, it's the quality feedback you get on every single photo.

I never said every single photo will. If you look through this thread, there is actually quite a bit of help going on, minus the isi shitfight. I've commented on a number of photos, and haven't even called anyone a faggot, as I'm fucked up on valium so quite chilled. Expect more kind comments to come in this thread.
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>>2876975
>comparing isi to William Christenberry
yeah and this guy >>2876440 is Ansel Adams
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>>2876971
Sorry bud, I'm not moopco, I actually enjoy trolling him. I also stay the fuck away from Reddit and the autistic irc.

>>2876975
What are these themes? The constantly changing landscape? I can appreciate that if done correctly, her stuff doesn't really show this though. If youd like I can set up one of my cameras to take perfectly exposed photos of my backyard every hour for a month, and then I'll post a thread with it if you'd like? I'll title it "as the grass grows", and you'll lap that shit up wont you. It will be a chronicle of my despair at the grass growing, and my having to mow it, and the everyday drudgery of day to day life in the suburbs.
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>>2876976
how do I into fixing the red--RGB color balance?
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>>2876975
Also, I like how you have now conveniently ignored that Fuji has focus peaking, so "muh vintage glass" isn't a reason for 8 billion photos with 3 keepers. Also, what is hyperfocal?
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>>2876982
Isi is actually much more skilled than William Christenberry in every objective sense of the word. I can tell you don't know him after all.

It's long term photography. She is doing similar things in the same place but is younger with a smaller body of finished work.

Wouldn't be surprised if she literally knows him. He's from her neck or the woods.
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>>2876984
ideally your camera has rgb histograms so you can chimp and see if the individual channels are blown out. even then you sometimes need retard-level mods like uniwb to be perfect
http://www.malch.com/nikon/UniWB.html
if that stuff isn't available to you, 1) shoot raw if possible, 2) shoot high bit depth if possible 3) underexpose and brighten in post (WITHIN REASON) for 3 you will have to work from experience, use
http://www.fastrawviewer.com/
or
http://rawnalyze.rawtherapee.com/
to check if your raw file is clipped. if you don't have raw capability photoshop/gimp/many others generate color histograms for jpegs. you don't have to be super autistic and get every pixel perfect but with a blowout like you've got in that photograph the tone of the flowers is significantly impacted.
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>>2876992
Where do you get the idea she takes billions of photos? She posts about 40 a week.
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>>2876979

... and that takes us right back to square one.

>>2876794

>given a half-assed critique by some guy who's trying to do 50 different critiques for 50 different photographers in ten minutes.

And this isn't to say that you aren't trying, I'm just saying that the RPT doesn't lend itself to thorough, constructive criticism.

I also absolutely think that beginner photographers should start their own threads. It may be difficult to tell that a newbie is consistently using the wrong ISO from one or two photos in an RPT, but if he or she posts a thread full of them you can start to get a clearer idea of what they're continually doing wrong, instead of accidental flukes.

Conversely, a photographer might be more resistant to criticism if the one or two photos they post in here get a "these are shit gtfo", as opposed to a more methodical and thought-out critique of the last two or three weeks' worth of work.

It really is bizarre to me how much pushback I get on this idea that RPT's are bad.
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>>2876996
>Isi is actually much more skilled than William Christenberry in every objective sense of the word.
ayyyyyyyy
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>>2877010
You should really Google him dude
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>>2877010
That's Eggleston not Chrostenberry you absolute retard
You don't even know photographers of the art world and you're trying to critique an artfag
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>>2876996
>Isi is actually much more skilled than William Christenberry

lol almost got me to reply
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>>2876781
>bashed in door
>paint peeling off A pillars
>filthy windshield
what was the point of this?
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>>2877011
>That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it!
cool story bro
>>2877013
no shit? That's great news, that image will be much more impactful now that I can change its filename from "Christen you on.jpg"
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>>2877014
Lol people that hate isi more than they know how to Google to avoid looking retarded and obviously biased.

Isi knows how to operate a camera. He didn't for most of his career.
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>>2876785
great location for panorama
why were you at f/2.8 instead of maybe f/11?
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>>2877015

the windows were super steamy at 1:30 am.

plus all the stuff that you mentioned, which you were able to gleam just from looking at it. it's a weird little slice of life.
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>>2876800
hit me right in da feels
terrific job
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>>2876880
I can hear your heavy breathing from here
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>>2877017
oh my god you probably think YOU'RE better than William Christenberry too, don't you
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>>2876889
crop closer, much, much closer
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>>2876892
zero DOF, that snapshit gave me a fucking headache.
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>>2877023
I think most of the boardis on a technical level.
Cohesion and thematic relevancy are another matter. Most of /p/ can't understand set motives much less work with them.
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>>2877028
let me guess, you also think you're a better composer than john cage?
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>>2876898
>widest aperture
>widest focal length
>point at wall
>muh vanishing point
>apply black and white filter
why do all the newfags have to do this and post results on /p/?
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>>2877019
>windows were super steamy at 1:30 am.
some Hillary voters were sleeping inside it.
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>>2877032

fuck, there probably were people sleeping inside. but why were the windows up?

it makes no sense.
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My fault, something wrong with my export setting on lightroom, but now its fixed.
The standard size sould be 1920px on the large size

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>>2877041
>standard size sould be 1920px
resize to 1000px before posting here, read rules.
this pic was really well composed, imho. Great job
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>>2877048

You read the rules. His photo is clearly less than one megabyte.
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>>2877025
>>2877027

thanks for the critique, will try to improve from your insights
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>>2877048
its a 1080p standard(guess), almost all the phones have 1080p by far. Thanks

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>>2877061
crop tighter. here is nothing to on 80% of the picture. also weird angle, don't fotograph from standing position. i would drop camera almost on the ground.
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>>2877004
What is filename? You aren't very good at trolling are you.
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>>2877062

if i dropped the camera almost on the ground, i wouldn't have gotten the angle with the camera watching me.

true about the tighter crop. such is lol x100s life.
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Editing suggestions?? Any ideas help.

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Turned out better than expected for a snapshit

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>>2876954
Naw its digital, just messed with the color balance come, might have made it a little too purple so thats why it looks like film

>>2876805

Sigma 70-300mm @ 300mm
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>>2877083
more contrast

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>>2877094
still love it.
>that light with the koi fish
looks like they're being taken by UFO tractor beam.
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>>2876800
Pretty neat. I wish you stepped back to give the subject more breathing room though, it feels too tight. Also try excluding distractions like that far left tree
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>>2877087
good street portrait but I wish face wasn't blocked with magazine. Was he trying to hide from you or did he want to show you the magazine cover?
>WE WUZ KANGZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WkDjpowso
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>>2877064
Fuji file names count up if you edit in camera with the raw converter which she uses almost exclusively iirc.
I think she posts nearly everything but duplicates, how else do you get two threads every week?
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>>2877030

very constructive, thanks
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first time posting to /p/, ready to get rekt

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>>2877119

too much magenta, but otherwise it's a pic of.. what, tourists biking? meh.

people are going to tell you to resize, but fuck 'em. it ain't their website.
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>>2877120
really looking for critique on composition and framing and such more than anything, i know the subject material is nothing special. i finally invested in some good lenses and am just trying some things out

regardless, appreciate the input
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>>2877123
Your horizon is at center and it shouldnt be in this

the bike tire on the bottom is way too close the edge

the whole left side is nothing
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>>2877119
>first time posting to /p/
Read the sticky and resize
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>>2877101
She posts sooc jpgs.
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>>2877137

Like clockwork.
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>>2877100
thanks, he was sitting like that when I found him. This guy was across the street playing, pretty cool guy

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recent picture recent

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>>2877138
pushing a file 2 stops in camera counts as a sooc jpg if its from a fuji, have you ever used one?
she hasn't always shot jpgs only, she only started doing that with the Xpro2 for some reason
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>>2877140
is not resizing bannalibalble?

Obama/Clinton in my city today

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and another

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>>2877150

no, it's not bannable. it's not in the rules anywhere, it's just some weird thing that a few people get hissy about on this board specifically.
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whatever

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>>2877148
No, why the fuck would I use a Fuji when there are others available? I actually have defended her on numerous occasions when faggots say "lol iso400 what ebin quality". I hate her attitude, and her inability to curate.
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and that was

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>>2877162
neat
the shadows detract from it though
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>>2877151
did someone put a fucking minion on a grave
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>>2877167
I dig it, that reminds me of a set that was in a movie or something. Tip of my tongue

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>>2877166
>inability to curate
If you want to see my ability to curate, sign up to pre-order my book. :^)

I'd say the obvious lack of curatory skills falls on those who can look at my site without seeing patterns form beyond "you shot the same beach more than once, why??"

C'est la vie en fotofaggin tho. Why am I even a topic in this thread?
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>>2877170
and many other things
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>>2877171
did the same, it seems that we see the same movie
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>>2877183

because you're a girl who take photos in a 4chan board with lots of
>tfw no tog qt3.14gf
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>>2876800
Pretty based anon
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Just posted this in the astrophotography thread but Ill post them here as well, tell me what you think, 1/2

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2/2

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>>2877205
nice. I've got a great spot in the woods away from city lights to try this.
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>>2877214
ya make sure you cant see any, this is a good site I use
http://darksitefinder.com/maps/world.html
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>>2877219
nice.
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>>2877183
>If you want to see my ability to curate, sign up to pre-order my book. :^)

I'll happily take a free copy, as I said, I like some of your photos.

Also as I said, I understand why thing are photographed more than once, I just don't think it makes sense in the way you've done it. I simply hats the fact that your threads always detail the entire board for 3 days or so, or until the bump limit is reached.
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>>2876446
I love this shot. It makes me think of a rural family with a bunch of cats in their attic they can't get rid of - and stop trying - and the grain and light leak add to the comfy informal and warm tone. LP
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>>2877205
Tfw a fucking plane comes past in the middle of your exposure.
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>>2877242
>I just don't think it makes sense in the way you've done it.
Which is? I wasn't aware of any singular approaches. Sometimes I maintain similar compositions and dimensions across unrelated photos and keep them together, sometimes I maintain very divergent compositions of the same subject over a period of time.

Could you cite the subject you're referring to for better understanding?
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>>2876428
>white trash
Was this intentional?
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