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Astrophotography bread tfw I can't go wider than 24mm equivalent
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Astrophotography bread

tfw I can't go wider than 24mm equivalent edition

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>>2858520

filtered.
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Astrophotos with an Xpro2? It's almost as if you enjoy cancer.
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>>2858526

Why would we bother coming to 4chan at all, if we didn't enjoy cancer?

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>>2858520
>>2858522
>>2858525
These ones are pretty terrible, I'll be honest.

>>2858529
That made me laugh, I wasn't expecting that reply. This is also my favourite. Try more like this, with the sunset or the lake as well as the stars.
I just feel astrophotos need a subject additional to stars to make them special, because we've all seen stars.
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This is by no means a good photo, but I thought the star doubling was an interesting optical effect.

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>>2858531

Thanks for your input, I will try to implement your suggestions in the future. I don't see stars that often because I'm a city fuccboi. So these are probably more special to me as a personal experience, rather than good photography in its own right.

Hence, these are like 20-second-long snapshots.
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>>2858520
cucked.
get a sony a7 and batis 18mm next time.
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>>2858532
This actually is a pretty good photo, in my opinion. It'd make a good phone wallpaper.
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>>2858520
>>2858522
>>2858525
ily agno but this is what you sold the d750 for?
this has horrible iso performance, most certainly not made for astro at all :(
should've bought even a d700 instead, hell a crop nikon could do better too.

as for the composition, you mentioned they are snapshits so I'll let that pass, not bad otherwise.
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Noisy, bad colour snapshits of nothing.

Sort your life out.
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>>2858629

High ISO on the X-Pro2 is fine, the problem here is me uploading these photos quickly without trying to do a proper noise reduction treatment. These are all just quick LR edits.
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>>2858629
>this has horrible iso performance, most certainly not made for astro at all :(
Completely untrue...? Fujis handle high ISO extremely well. Even after correction for the differently calibrated ISO values.
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>>2858807
the lighting separates the tree nicely. Toobad you cant really add more green to the purple-ish sky, without making the tree even more green. Still looks nice though. Is that light pollution, or moon/sun/rise/set in the background? What did you use to light the tree?
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>>2858827
>Toobad you cant really add more green to the purple-ish sky, without making the tree even more green
Masks exist.
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>>2858520
yikes, $1700!?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1210892-REG/fujifilm_16488618_x_pro2_mirrorless_digital_camera.html

depending what you are using it for, an actual DSLR might more worth it. But this is pretty compact, and usable, so again... depends for what...
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>>2858830
even with remask, have fun masking that.
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>>2858837
Why are you commenting on this like it's a gear thread request, rather than a photo thread?

Agno, wipe your exif next time.
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>>2858844
because youre not the boss of me. I'm 12.
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>>2858808

the photos show horrible iso performance. fujicucks need to leave.
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>>2858852
The photos show poor processing and that's literally it. They're down-sampled from 6000 pixels to 1800. That alone would be enough to hide noise in the images.

ISO 3200 on an XPro2 is fantastic, even without the caveat that it's APS-C.
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>>2858843
The tree is tones of green. The sky is tones of purple. To add green to the purples, all he needs to do is a selection based on color, and create a mask from that. It wouldn't be very difficult at all.
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>>2858629
>this has horrible iso performance, most certainly not made for astro at all :(
I'm bored waiting for my wife to get ready to go to dinner, so here's a 100% crop from an XPro2 file, at ISO 3200, in lightroom, with the exposure pushed an additional 1.75 stops.

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>>2859266
And here's the whole photo with exif (And a little more brightening even!)

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>>2859269
Here's another one!

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>>2859270
>Horrible ISO performance!

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>>2858807
oh okay, thats alright I guess.

>>2859270 >>2859275
this one is a tad shit of an example, and demonstrate the opposite of your point, but yea I see the others are fine. As he said, just his editing or lack of.
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>>2859277
>this one is a tad shit of an example
It's with no noise reduction at all (Luminance or color) and normal sharpening applied. With normal human amounts of noise reduction, it would look juuuust fine.
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>>2858858
alrighty, yeah. That was surprisingly less painful than I initially though. Good tip.

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>>2859328
No problem! Glad to help. There are so many different ways to select things, there's no way to know them all, especially if you don't do selections often.
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Hey guys, got a question regarding this topic.

I got a kit lense 18-50mm f3.5, aps-c size. So for my a6000 its equivalent to 27mm smallest focal length. I have tried to do some star photography, but i think my aperture is just too small to capture enough light.

I am a student so i only have little money i can spare for gear. I am thinking about buying the sigma 19mm f2,8 for star photography and low light in general. But is it worth it? Will the difference from f3.5 to f2.8 make a big difference?
pic related. I didn't yet drive way out to places where there is little light pollution. This photo was taken in my town just to test out my kit lenses capabilities.

I do realize it is horrible.
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>>2859363
rokinon 12mm f/2
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>>2859363

The main thing actually is travelling far out enough to reduce light pollution. Even f/3.5 is okay if it's dark enough.

http://www.cleardarksky.com/

For a low cost lens option, there's the Samyang 8mm f/2.8 fisheye.

And:

http://www.lonelyspeck.com/defish/
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>>2858827

It's either light pollution, or the light of the Sun. It was difficult to figure out which way I was facing in this face, so I'm not sure lol

The tree was lit by an LED flashlight, thanks to isi for that tip

>>2858844

Good idea. Also I need to learn how to deal with noise lol

I can't always use the "it's just a snapshot" excuse

>>2858858
>>2859328

Thanks for the tip and the reminder that I really need to step up my Photoshop gaem
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>>2859404

>facing in this face
>mfw

Facing in this shot*
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>>2858534
> So these are probably more special to me as a personal experience, rather than good photography in its own right.

This realization is an important step that many people on /p/ can't get past.
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>>2859363
Yeah, I usually shoot at f/4, 3200, 30 seconds on my 26mm equivalent (16mm x 1.6). Those work out pretty well, or I use a Rokinon 8mm 3.5, which works as well.
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dunno why, but I've never seen the milky way, even at best conditions

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I'm making my first night trip to a dark site tonight. It is supposed to be clear and I happen to be working near the area tomorrow so I will be doing this "on my way to work" if you will.

My question is, will I be better off at 24mm even if I can only stop down to f/4? My alternative is my fast 50mm.

>faster lens or wider lens?
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>>2859913
nvm seems its already been discussed in this very thread!
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>>2858531
what makes them shit?
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>>2859602

You mean with your naked eye? You probably have to go further out, and even in the best case scenario it's gonna be faint.

In the case of your exposure, you need an even higher ISO and longer exposure time. Although at 18mm you can't push it longer than 15-20s.

>>2859913

I think in this case, it would be better if you go wider. 24mm f/4 is workable sometimes.

Have some more noise

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>>2859363
This would make a great portrait if it were double exposed at a higher speed, the cloud(?) formations already give a sort of face-type look (in my opinion), I just think it would look cool.

But, this was probably digital amirite :/
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I went out at night with muh bentax asdro tracur :DDD and got this not-terribly-great result. deepskystacker didn't seem to want to use all of the ~50 40s exposures, and I think I had the ISO too high.

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>>2860576
you should look at some Ps techniques for image stacking. There are smart object blend modes that get rid of noise. It really quite amazing what Ps can do for astrophotography, without even using other programs. It's actually pretty impressive how mathematics and art come together with this particular Ps feature.

Here's one of many great articles on the topic:
http://petapixel.com/2013/05/29/a-look-at-reducing-noise-in-photographs-using-median-blending/
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>>2860769
Something I'd never considered before, will use in future for night photos and touristy snapshits, thanks anon.
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I went out last night and tried to set up in a windmill farm, but little did I know, the power companies don't own those chunks of land, they lease it from farmers. I met the farmer when he drove back to ask what the fuck I was doing back there. We talked for a while and I showed him my kit and he was more than happy to let me shoot once he realized I wasn't poaching or trying to plant weed or something.

Still though, it took me a long time to schmooze with him to make him happy and that was the time I was going to be composing my frame. That is my excuse why I had to add the cliché tent into the foreground and the composition is just... bad I guess.

This is also my first try at the milky way.

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Same scene, just repositioned.

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>>2861281
didn't jack the luminance on this one either so it shouldn't look as cloudy.
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>>2861281
at 24mm, you should be able to bring it up to 30 seconds with the same iso and aperture. these are a bit underexposed.
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>>2861297
I fucked up and was going by the rule of 300 instead of 5 or 600 whatever it is.
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>>2861298
still pretty good for a first go at it though.
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A practicing newbie here. Did I do good?
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>>2859363
This
>>2859378
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>>2861812
I don't know shit about astro, but your sky lacks the intense color tones of the milky way.
Can't give advice about how get them. You where close to a city with light pollution? That could be
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>>2861821
Not anon who took picture but...

There are no intense colours in the milky way. To the naked eye most deep sky objects are monochrome essentially. Long exposures and sensors exagerate some frequencies. I don't really like the multi coloured shots you see on the boxes of cheap telescopes but prefer a more natural look.
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>>2861812
Managed to get a better quality
>>2861821
.yeah looks like it but no mate. Pretty sure was away from city lights

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>>2861821
>>2861827
the milky way is actually mostly a brownish color, since a lot of it is cosmic dust. There is plenty of color the be had in the sky, but its the result of stacked long exposures and boosted saturation and contrast. Also a lot of nebulae and the like are deep red (the hydrogen-alpha emission line, ~656nm), which is right on the edge of where IR-blocking filters in most cameras start cutting off the light.

Also yeah, light pollution tends to turn everything an ugly orange color, because we insist on festooning our towns and highways with sodium vapor lamps. There are dedicated light-pollution filters for telescopes that cut that frequency, or you can get the poor-man's version, an "intensifier" filter. Those are advertised as for making reds more vibrant, not for astro, but they happen to cut the same frequency band. A 58mm one is like $35 new.
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2/2. Can I get some feedback, please?

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>>2862199
>>2862200
gorgeous skies
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I dont know shit about astro, but i want to do some in a trip i will have soon. I saw on flickr a guy did a long exposure of 45min and stars didnt trail at all. How?
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>>2862253
star tracking, motorized head. It's called something specific though. Cant remember what it's actually called though.
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>>2862495
That would be an equatorial mount. There are some basic ones that add on to a regular photographic tripod for a few hundred bucks (iOptron Startracker, Vixen Polarie), and proper German equatorial mounts that telescopes get put on.

This is, by the way, very much a "you get what you pay for" piece of equipment. Usually the recommendation in the astronomy community is that you should be spending more on your mount than your telescope in most cases, and that if photography is to be done one shouldn't use more than about half of the mount's rated weight capacity.
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Hi, If this thread isnt dead yet, can someone tell me when shooting a milky way time lapse, at what time intervals should the shots be apart by? 5 sec? 20 sec? Ijust dont know

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I've been interested in astro photography for a long time. Is there any chance of me getting decent pictures anywhere near London with the right gear? The city probably is the worst place to do astro photography and I don't want to have to drive a few hours to the countryside everytime I want to shoot.
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>>2865845
I don't know anything about astrophotography, but I do know there's literaly no chance in hell you can do it anywhere near london
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Don't know why i'd open myself to criticism on 4chan but here is one of mine

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>>2859403
>>2859412
>>2860207
>>2861818

Went out last night and took some more photos. Unfortunately it was full moon, which you can clearly see on the photos.

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>>2866834

forgot cropping, sorry guys.

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>>2866837
Also tried out some lightpainting, which i always found kind of meme-ish. But heck it was pretty fun.

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>>2866840
By the way, i took these photos at this old chapel at the edge of a large forest. No town for at least 5 kilometers. And although in germany there is no really dangerous wild animals, i was kind of nervous. Especially because with my 27mm equivalent, i had to go right at the edge of the forest to get the chapel fully in frame, and while composing my back was facing the forest. I heard some strange sounds and movement but it was probably just some deer or a boar.

pic related, this is how close i was to the forest. And with my eyes adjusted to the bright moonlight, the forest was especially dark.
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>>2866840
would look kind of cool if the noise in the sky wasn't vomit-inducing.
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>>2866975
Yeah i didn't see those flakes in the full view in lightroom. I think i managed to fix is quite nicely.

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i guess ill throw mine up.. this one was my most recent 1/2 on an a6000 with a 16mm 2.8

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2/2

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>>2865857
That tree is blocking the view of the sky and whatever that line of clouds or space whatever that is. I'm not an astrophotographer nor do I know anything about astronomy so I'm calling it a space whatever.
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>>2868030
Nice colors in the milky way, a shame that it's out of focus. The illumination of the palm makes the whole picture look very unnatural.

3/10

>>2868031

Stars are blurry and seem out of focus again. How did you even manage to do this with this lense?! Uninspired idea also.
4/10
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>>2866843
Holy shit look at the left tree
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>>2869032
S P O O P E R S
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>>2868629
I dont think their out of focus, the fact that it may be exposed for too long might be the reason.

>Uninspired idea also.
Where are your shots?
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>>2858531
>I just feel astrophotos need a subject additional to stars to make them special, because we've all seen stars.
the subject is the stars you ignorant cunt, otherwise it wouldn't be ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY.
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>>2865857
southern hemisphere?
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>>2866843
10/10, didn't even notice until anon pointed it out
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This is my first ever shot at this. Did it right after viewing this thread. Would love some construction feedback to assist in my future astrophotography endeavors

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>>2870999
On the technical side, go for a lens wider than a 50mm if available so that you can expose for longer without introducing star trails.

Light pollution is a total bitch to work with.

I'm sure you can get more out of your photo, how are you post-processing it? Are you shooting RAW?

Use whatever is around you as part of your composition, it doesn't look good when it's just a couple of cropped treetops.

Also resize your pictures.
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>>2868030
>>2868031
Forget what the other anon said, these are dope as fuck
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>>2871004
Thanks!

I'm just starting out so I only have 2 pretty basic lenses and I was using this less ranged one for the lower aperture ability.

I definitely agree about the light pollution ha.

I am shooting RAW. And pretty much all there was at the location was a tree line because it was just a quick spot I could play around at.

Do You mean size them smaller? What's a good size?
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Took this on my 50mm since its the only lens I currently own. I'm in an empty part of Australia so the night skys are amazing.

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>>2871040
Fugg, forgot to resize.

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I've posted these before but whatever

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>>2871044
I need to go out scouting new areas more

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>>2871040
Holy shit

>night skys are amazing

I used to take this for granted soooooo much. I grew up in the clearest skies ever, my town used to shut off all power after a certain time and so we had no streetlights at all. If I couldn't sleep I would just lay on a hammock and look up, meteors of all sizes and brightness along with satellites that would pass by. Moved to a city and I can can only count around 20 or so on a "good" night. I've been told that one of the last places on Earth to witness the dark skies is open ocean hundreds of miles away from any light source (assuming your vessel has no unnecessary light shining).

I also had the opportunity to use a 50mm because at f/1.8 it was the fastest lens I could get my hands on.
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>>2871046
It would be good if cities could shut their lights off at a certain time. I definitely appreciate living on a farm where the sky is visible at all hours of the night.
Pic related is my nearest source of light pollution 40km away.

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