Redpill me on 50mm lenses.
They're the cheapest lenses in a manufacturer's lineup, fast and can be very sharp when you stop them down. They also reproduce a somewhat natural horizontal field of view.
>>2855868
35,50,85
if you ever need anything else you're a meme yourself
They're some of the cheaper lenses you can get and are more or less what your eye sees. Seriously, you can walk around with the other eye open and just see the frame lines.
>>2855868
The redpill is that the 35 and 85 in the lineup usually have better image quality.
Yes the 50 is cheaper, but you get what you pay for.
>>2855868
If you have a crop sensor camera reconsider (unless you do portraits).
They can be used for almost everything. You can shoot landscape and portraits with this thing, other lenses would work better for particular work, though. They are cheap, fast and small.
Normal lenses can into natural perspective.
Also it is 30-35mm on crop.
![Portrait-Focal-Length-II[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5xHxPvW.jpg "Portrait-Focal-Length-II[1].jpg")
>>2855896
>50mm
>portrait lens
pick one and only one.
I use 135mm for portraits. If I could afford a 70-200mm zoom, my portraits would live at 200.
The 50mm portrait meme needs to die.
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>>2855904
Ever heard of environmental portraits and other stuff that include more than a head?
![lindsay_adler2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FT3DH2R.jpg "lindsay_adler2[1].jpg")
>>2855906
>hurr durr stuff that include more than a head
>being this obtuse
helpful hint: google lens distortion
>>2855904
Ever heard of this thing called 3D space? Just because you can flatten them out like paper mario, doesn't always mean you should
![50+vs+170[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zuvTJZ0.jpg "50+vs+170[1].jpg")
>>2855914
>using a hammer instead of a screwdriver
>not using the right tool for the job
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>>2855913
>lens distortion
Has nothing to do with it
>>2855868
heres a redpill.
50mm is far, far too long to be used indoors or as a 'walkaround and take random pics of the cool stuff you see' lens
when you see all this memery about lens normalcy and FOV bs, on a crop sensor that translates to something wider like a 35mm or 23mm
heres another redpill for you: macroshit is the most retarded form of photography and is only interesting to the person taking the pictures
>>2855876
I would rather have a 40 instead of 35/50
and i do!
>>2855934
>>>gearthread
>>2855919
okay, fine, instead of 'lens distortion', I'll say short lens or close proximity of the shot. It doesn't matter what you call it, you're arguing semantics. The image produced is distorted. But maybe you like large noses, is your name Shlomo?
>>2855938
All of that shit is not present in an environmental portrait, including more than just a person's head. As was stated in the post your replied to with that graphic.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2t3nc9l.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>2855929
>50mm is far, far too long...
Well, actually that depends if you have full frame camera or crop.
>macroshit is the most retarded
top kek
agreed
>>2855941
>environmental portrait
You're jerking your mind off. It's called mental masturbation.
I have a 50mm lens but rarely use it. 70-200 2.8 lenses are the most flexible lens you can buy, period.
>>2855944
I don't even know how to respond to this random string of words...
Anyway, here's a photo of a person taken with a 35mm equivalent lens.
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>>2855876
Ok, let me photography wildlife and some sports with a 85, because you know, I'm not a meme.
>>2855957
Beautiful, but your argument is helped by having a gorgeous woman and stunning location.
>>2855976
>most natural looking
Only if you're a jew or italian. Most of us don't have a huge schnozz.
>>2855944
>I take my environmental portraits from a quarter of a mile away using a 300mm lens because the internet told me I need a telephoto for portraits and I don't really understand why
>>2855978
What does that have to do with the point that environmental portraits exist, and therefore it is perfectly possible and plausible, and in many cases, desirable, to take a portrait with a wide lens.
>>2855976
No, photos taken from 8-10 feet away confirmed for the most expected level of perspective distortion, requiring a focal length between 50mm and 85mm to maintain tight framing.
>>2855929
>macroshit is the most retarded form of photography and is only interesting to the person taking the pictures
I tend to agree, though there are exceptions. (Scientific imaging, product photography of really small stuff, etc.)
>>2855876
Why even bother with the 50 in that lineup? I had the same trio on my old system and pretty much never touched my 50, and didn't get one when I switched brands.
Sometimes you absolutely need wider or longer, though, like when you have to capture an interior space for a real estate listing or magazine article, or when it's impossible to get close to your subject.
>>2855981
I'm italian, and I'm offended. pls delete
>>2855876
28 is better than 35, there's no need to have both a 35 and a 50. Personally I use 28 and 50 about equally and then 85 occasionally. I have a 105mm too but I don't use it much at all.
>>2855889
I don't know how much I agree with this. It's sort of true especially with older lenses where everyone used a double gauss design, those are generally pretty shit wide open but very good stopped down. But with modern designs, at least Nikon's 50mm f/1.8G is an incredibly good lens even though it's the cheapest in the f/1.8 lineup.
>>2855995
I've personally never been much of a fan of 28. I think 35 is more flattering for full-length portraits, and I'd rather have a 24 or something even wider for real wide shots.
>>2855999
A lens is not flattering or unflattering. Do you mean that the distance you usually stand at to get a person in frame from head to toe with a 35 is more flattering, most likely because you're a little further away?
>>2855918
all rook rike to me.
>>2856001
Yes, if you want to be pedantic about the way photographers have talked about lenses for decades. It's not necessarily just head to toe, it can also be stuff like shooting a half-length portrait from overhead while standing on a chair, or shooting horizontal half-length or even full-length EPs.
That said, the lens itself does start to come into the equation more when you're talking about something like 28 vs 35, because you start to hit actual lens distortion at around 28mm.
35s also tend to be faster and/or cheaper for the same speeds, which can be a major factor in portraiture as well. (Not just for shallow DoF but also for maximizing flash effectiveness.)
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ITT: 50mm faggots BTFO and 35mm faggots on suicide watch.
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70-200mm master race (not my pic)
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>>2855918
... is that a man second from the right?
>>2855995
1.8D is the cheapest one, dude.
>>2855904
Poorfag detected.
Also, is that a trap?
>>2856014
>man hands
>Adam's apple
>5 o'clock shadow
Her name is Bruce!
>>2856023
>Poorfag detected.
Thought I stated that clearly.
>Also, is that a trap?
Confirmed for low test. I'd beat the bricks off that 200mm qt 3.14, and I'd hire the 24mm kikess to do my accounting.
>>2855944
>environmental portraits are mental masturbation
u wot
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>>2856008
50mm looks best as it's the one that shows the least of her leathery face.
>>2856030
Sorry mate just ribbing you.
Also sorry, but that thing has a man face no matter the focal length.
>>2856016
I was thinking of the 1.8G line, but yeah I guess you got me.
>le portrait on crop meme
any lens is a portrait lens if you point it at people
>le flattering perspective meme
not everybody is a jew
>le normal meme
depends on the size and distance of viewing for the final image
>>2855994
agreed
>>2856010
not disagreeing but that picture is gay
>>2855984
Yeah, I interact with everyone from at least ten feet away.
>>2855978
No.
>>2856111
>posting irrelevant tumblr memes.
what a waste of trips
I actually find the "big nose" focal lengths more emotionally engaging. When it looks like camera was pretty close to the subject's face it makes me feel like I'm having an intimate moment with her.
>>2855876
Nightclub photography is going to be fun with those.
>>2855913
So judaism is just a question of focal length. Interesting.
>>2856356
it doesnt
>>2856356
it does not.
its just the inner 66% of a equivalent full frame shot, the compression is the exact same, for example shoot you cam in crop mode, and than full frame. crop the full frame shot and boom equal images
>>2855876
4/10 moderate bait
>>2855957
>pretty girls are cruise control for good photo on /p/
Never change
So, from the thread I'm reading that 50 mm is generally NOT usable by people and it's better to have 35mm/28mm and 85 mm instead. Is this right?
>>2856417
>So, from the thread I'm reading that 50 mm is generally NOT usable by people and it's better to have 35mm/28mm and 85 mm instead. Is this right?
50mm is the default "walking around taking pictures of random shit" length for full frame, but anyone asking about it probably doesn't have a full frame body, so, yeah
>>2856424
I use a 15-30 (on FF) as a "walking around taking pictures of random shit" lens.
50mm is too tight in most situations.
And even when 50 is perfect you can usually get away with 30/35 by either stepping closer or cropping in post.
The truth is: 35 would have been more popular than 50 if they cost the same.
50 is a budget lens, nothing more.
For further evidence: pretty much all cameras with fixed prime lenses (phone cameras, compacts, disposables, etc) are in the 28 to 35 range.
>>2856435
>outing himself this hard as a pleb amateur who can't compose
Goddamn.
>>2856436
Great ad hominem you've got there.
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>>2856356
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/crop_sensor_cameras_and_lenses.html
>>2856417
I do real estate photography. I use a 50mm for detail shots - closeups of faucets, door knobs, hinges, countertops.
>>2856436
>covering for an inability to compose by going wider
It literally works opposite to this, friend. There is little compositional variation past 135mm within a genre of photography.
>>2856010
Looks like he's standing in front of a fucking backdrop.
50mm is cheap, versatile, luminous.
There are a lot of models and brand, giving you more choice of rendering a scene.
>Carl Zeiss ultron and Meyer Gorlitz ftw!
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>>2856552
>covering for an inability to compose by going longer
It literally works opposite to this, friend. There is little compositional variation past 35mm within a genre of photography (whatever that means).
>>2856372
Just like your fat cousins are cruise control for dating when you're Sugar.
>stay jelly
I use a 50 for almost everything portrait related because I hate having to step back a lot, I only use a longer lens if I really need to because in most cases it's fine
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>>2856590
What an ugly picture.
>>2855878
>They're some of the cheaper lenses you can get and are more or less what your eye sees
LOLNO. A human's eyesight is wide as fuck. I have nearly a 180 degree field of view with blurry peripheral vision.
>>2855896
>Also it is 30-35mm on crop.
No. On a 1.6x crop, it is a 80m. Fuck, does anyone on here know what they are talking about?
I love all the fags on here thinking there is one focal length for everything. Does a painter have only one thickness of brush or one color, faggots?
I have a 17-50mm aps-c lens, a 50mm (which is an 80mm on my 1.6x crop, and a 70-300mm, which is a 130-460mm on my crop sensor. Never needed anything else.
>>2855876
not very effective, the difference between each lens isn't considerable, you will waste time thinking about which lens if best for your shot
you need to widen the focal difference so that you can't simulate the next focal length by cropping the shorter one
I believe better combinations are:
28mm, 50mm, 105mm - for quick shooting, minimal cropping might be required
35mm, 85mm, 135mm - best when you can take time to position your shots, no cropping should be required
20-24mm - 50mm - 135mm - widest range, no need to position yourself for your shots, you can be as close or far as you want, but moderate cropping will be required
>>2856781
>le peripheral vision meme
fuck off. 50mm on 35mm looks normal when viewed at the normal viewing angle, it looks like you are looking through a window into the scene. stop being an autist.
>>2856785
he means 30-35 on crop is FOV-eq to 50mm you fucking retard
>>2856978
fuck off, go shoot some tree bark and railroad tracks and stop pretending you know anything about photography.
>>2856978
yea fagget, lets see some of your work if you're so high and mighty bitchass.
HAHAHA SO IM JUST GONNA JUMP ON THIS BANDWAGON AND CALL YOU A BITCH TOO.>>2856978
>>2856977
The fuck??
>>2856357
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>2856988
>le clueless rabal owner face
kek
>>2856719
>ad hominem
0/10 jimmies remain intact
>>2857011
Go away, sugar.
Fuck you Sugar, you piece of shit
>>2856781
>being this dense
