Film General Thread, aka FGT.
>just posting in the FGT doesn't make you gay, unless you shoot 110
This is the thread for all of your stupid film questions, and to post your film snapshits without flushing them down the RPToilet.
It's OK to ask about film gear in this thread.
>have a failed first draft of the last OP image as your new OP image, cause I cbf
Please to have some people posting good photos in this thread, that last couple have been really shitty.
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>>2848888
>just posting in the FGT doesn't make you gay, unless you shoot 110
Guess I'm a little bitchboi then. Would really rather have an Auto 110 over this though.
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>just posting in the FGT doesn't make you gay, unless you shoot 110
I've had a canon 110ed for months that I picked up mint in box at goodwill and I've been debating whether or not to throw a test roll through it
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>>2848908
>having to tell your family you were just experimenting
Forget that, assert your masculinity with patrician 6x9.
>>2848912
I wish I had a Fuji GW690II thanks for reminding me
>having to tell your family you were just experimenting
They'd probably be ok with it
sup guys. my photos come 2morrow. : )
Is the Nikon f3 a good investment for a hiking cam? I'm stuck between buying the titanium version or the press version. What do y'all recommend?
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>>2848956
The titanium and press versions are cool and all, but those are collector cameras. Just get a regular F3 if you're going to actually use it, they're much cheaper and there's millions of them floating around. It's a truly excellent camera, I love mine and I would really recommend it.
>>2848964
OK thanks! What lenses do you recommend for it? I'll be hiking in New Mexico so I plan on carrying a 28mm and a 50mm. Is there anything I need to look out for when I buy it, because I don't want to get a lemon!
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>>2848967
The 28 and 50 are great, go for it.
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>>2848973
What films would you recommend for landscapes? I'm not too much of a fan of ektar, and I keep hearing portra is really good. I'm on a limit of 24 rolls for 2 weeks. Sorry if I sound way too enthusiastic about this.
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>>2848967
The usual stuff with buying any old camera, make sure the shutter blades aren't damaged, the lightseals around the film door aren't rotted away, the viewfinder is clean and clear, no corrosion in the battery compartment, and the shutter fires when you put a fresh battery in it.
Just buy it from KEH and it'll be in good working condition. If you buy it from ebay or something like that it'll probably be fine anyway, it's a legendarily reliable camera. You can spend more to get one in good cosmetic shape, but you can save a lot by getting a beater as long as it isn't one where the previous owner clearly didn't take care of it and beat the shit out of it.
>>2848974
35mm film isn't really for landscapes, you can try it if you want but you'd be better suited with medium format at least.
>>2848977
I'd love to carry a Pentax 6x7 but I have a weight limit and I can't have like 40% of my carry weight be a camera,
>>2848976
Do I need any precautions for X-ray machines? I keep on hearing how the x-rays can cause foggy photos
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>>2848974
Agfa Precisa.
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Who here uses Delta or TMAX? I've been sticking to Tri-X lately, but I want to see how tgrain films can look when printed, would love to hear opinions on exposure/development.
Here's a shot from my most recent outing.
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>>2848956
stop posting this picture bro
Any advice on choosing between 6x4.5, 6x6, and 6x7? Looking to get into a reflex system, so no tlrs or rangefinders (as cool as they are). Not really interested in in-body metering or fancy electronics, i have a handheld meter for finding exposure. All mechanical and rugged is a plus.
I was thinking about the a Pentacon Six kit, partly because it's reasonable to try out MF and the Zeiss lenses are gorgeous. Also curious about RB67, or Bronica systems. Not sure about 6x4.5 being a huge difference from 35mm.
Any suggestions welcome !
>>2848986
this photo does things for me that i didnt know were possible
>>2849001
>Not sure about 6x4.5 being a huge difference from 35mm.
it is. cleaner images, more color depth. but it wont look "medium format", even with the faster lenses, something will be missing.
>I was thinking about the a Pentacon Six kit, partly because it's reasonable to try out MF
nope, they are somewhat unreliable, prone to fail, mirror slap fucks sharpness, lenses not that good.
>and the Zeiss lenses are gorgeous.
they are Jena, poor QC. sometimes okay, lots of times trash.
>All mechanical and rugged is a plus.
id say go for a Pentax 67. a literal beast, gorgeous IQ, excellent lenses, a huge ass solid MF system. yes it uses a battery, not a big deal.
with 6x7 you can crop to 6x6 too.
>>2849001
6x7 master race reporting in.
If you're set on all mechanical, then you should definitely try the RB with KL lenses, original pentax 67, or one of the earlier bronicas. Personally I never liked the rendering of bronica lenses. The Pentax lenses are pretty great honestly. The Mamiya lenses are very clean, and maybe a bit sterile, sometimes.
Pick 645 if you need/want super portability compared to larger neg SLR's,
Pick 6x6 if you can afford a Hasselblad.
>>2849004
An photo can't give u AIDS bae, it's not possible.
>sucking tripcocks can tho
>>2849005
>>2849005
Thanks anon! any feelings about Pentax 67 vs the Mamiya RB/RZ67s? Are parts pretty available for both systems and all? Any repairability issues?
>>2849008
Can not afford a Hasselblad, haha. I like the idea of a big neg, might as well go all the way for 6x7, right?
Appreciate the input, all. Thanks.
>>2849013
The negs are great. I've made some great prints from 6x7 stuff, plus you can print 8x10 without any cropping or not using the whole area.
I use an RZ67, and I really like it. The lenses are all good and very inexpensive. It does use a battery but the one battery lasts forever. Treat it right and you'll never have a problem with it. Lots of accessories are available and low price as well.
Don't pass up on the 110 2.8. I didn't get it when I first bought my RZ and I've been regretting it ever since.
Pic related is from the Sekor 90 3.5, Tri-X plus a red filter. It's a bit of a test shot bc I hadn't used the red filter before, but the cloud detail is awesome.
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>>2849013
>Are parts pretty available for both systems and all? Any repairability issues?
Be real buddy, the only spare parts you need for these are "just buy another one for $300 on ebay".
The practical differences are whether you prefer the form factor of a camera or a toaster, and whether you're anal enough about your pictures that you'll notice the sharpness loss of a focal plane shutter versus a fucking leaf.
Honestly though, you sound so green that the Pentacks is the only choice for you. You'll be able to work it without failing at bellows calculations, darkslides, M. Up, etc.
>>2849013
>any feelings about Pentax 67 vs the Mamiya RB/RZ67s?
yes, i love my P67. i like how it renders stuff, i like how it looks and feels in the hands. also its a fast performer, i can picture myself doing street with it, focusing is pretty easy. never cared about the RB line, i dont like the looks or the images they produce.
oh the 67 has a 45mm that is holy fuck so great, check on flickriver some velvia shots+that 45mm, its some large format tier level stuff.
get one already CLA'd from a japan seller.
>>2849013
>the 67 has a 45mm that is holy fuck so great
>>2849013 anon, get this: just after posting about the 45mm i started salivating at the thought of it, so i went to ebay to see how bloated were the current prices. then i found an auction with 10 minutes left that was at like $90 (normally these go for $250 and up). so i said fuck it and snip bidded at 2 seconds. and i won lol.
ty anon for making me talk about grorious pentax glass.
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Anon, I keep getting half moon shapes in one or two frames of my negatives. How do you load film on these fuckers? or rather: does anyone have any tips on how to prevent film from bending or how do you load them more easily onto the spools.
It's not a light leak, color film (which I don't develop myself) comes back without them. I think it's the way I load film.
>The film has been kinked in those areas. Be careful not to bend the film too much when loading on to the reel.
>>2849103
I had the same problem before I realised you spool the film into those paterson reels by turning the wheels against each other to pull the film in. Once I started doing that the film loaded with equal spacing.
The shapes you are getting do sound like film is getting stuck together in the tank, are you stand developing everything or do you shake the drum?
>>2849106
You're wrong
>>2849103
You're right. It's your film being bent by a shitty tank reel or shitty tank reel loading skills. I needed to replace my reel after it started snagging film and making those exact same half-moon shapes.
Practice spooling film in daylight or get a better dev tank. Sometimes it doesn't pay to be stubborn and stick by shitty reels that'll ruin your film, it's all commonsense stuff.
>>2848974
Portra is absolutely killer for landscapes.
>>2848977
Don't listen to this fool
>>2849103
This guy is correct in how to load the film onto the reel but incorrect about what is causing those half moon shapes. Also if you're shooting 35mm cut off the leader so you have a nice, straight edge to put into the reel.
>>2848982
>Precisa
Got a couple of rolls in the fridge that I acquired. Any tips for shooting it?
>>2849001
>>2849013
I'm a 6x4.5 and 6x6 fag.
If you're looking for detail but don't need the weight then go for the RB67. Unless you really want a pentax then the different backs will probably be more useful. I'm not sure if the Pentax 67 takes any film that isn't 120/220 and 135 with a rigged adapter.
The Mamiya 645 Pro TL is very reliable as an SLR and has a decent amount of glass available for it. I'd also check out the Bronica E series.
For 6x6, I don't have any experience with the pentacon six since I went down the Bronica road, but I'd recommend the SQ-Ai the most out of the range, but it is the only SQ body that requires batteries to fire the shutter. However it is built like a brick shithouse.
>>2849018
>You'll be able to work it without failing at bellows calculations, darkslides, M. Up, etc.
It's not like it's THAT hard. Darkslides are only a slight pain and it's obvious why it's not taking a shot with one in place. Mirror up is really not a problem either, the biggest confusion is on Bronica systems If you're using the lens for a time exposure.
>>2849103
It's the way you load film, like another anon said, cut off the film leader, sometimes it helps to snip off the edges too as they often get caught on the reel. If the film snags while loading then either knock the reel or gently pull it apart to unsnag the film. Don't be afraid to start again and make sure the reel is always dry before loading.
Having clean reels helps. Wash them thoroughly and leave them overnight if you have to.
>>2849113
>You're right. It's your film being bent by a shitty tank reel or shitty tank reel loading skills. I needed to replace my reel after it started snagging film and making those exact same half-moon shapes.
can that happen if the reels are old?
>>2849103
Also thanks for the replies guys.
>>2849150
>can that happen if the reels are old?
Only if they're warped/deformed. Cleaning the real thoroughly, scrubbing, leaving it overnight in bleach and thoroughly drying should do the trick. If you only have one reel and you process more than one roll in a short space of time then it may be worth your while buying another couple of reels. The kaiser reels are pretty good and I've had less snagging with them than on my paterson reels.
The rest of it is in the loading.
>>2849144
>Any tips for shooting it?
Put it in a camera, point it at things, press the shutter.
I meter at 80 to get brighter slides that scan better, but suit yourself.
I don't consider a filter necessary for it.
Prepare to be dismayed when they look just like DSLR pictures once you've scanned them.
>>2849150
It can happen if they are somehow misshapen, damaged or dirty. Go figure. Age is irrelevant unless it affects the physical structure of the material. My reel was cracked and badly molded so it snagged the film leader. Get some sacrificial film and put it through the reel in daylight, see where/how it snags. Or just get a new fancy teflon reel and never have this problem again. I'm a stingy cunt so I put up with mine till it almost tore a roll of film. Up to you.
>>2849157
oh I see what you mean
sorry didn't read properly.
>Cleaning the real thoroughly, scrubbing, leaving it overnight in bleach and thoroughly drying should do the trick.
I'll give this a shot
thanks
a bit of a noob question, but if I am using sunny 16, for every stop I open up my aperture I also have to use a stop faster shutter speed, correct?
>>2849180
yes
Aperature +1 stop and then faster shutter speed is -1 stop
and then you are back to the 'correct' exposure
>>2849185
*assuming sunny 16 gives you the correct exposure
If you open up the aperture you will let in more light, so you don't have to expose as long.
>>2849158
How would you post process? I'm trying to DSLR scan and I keep getting shit scans . I'm using macro filters and a a6k
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>>2849195
What's wrong with that scan exactly
>>2849196
That wasn't a scan. This is what I tried scanning earlier.
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>>2849195
Precisa is slide film, so processing the scans is straightforward, you basically treat them like any ordinary photo.
>>2849197
"macro filters" are pleb tier trash.
If you can afford a Nex6000 Electric Boogaloo you can afford a real macro lense. And don't ask for recommendations. ANY dedicated macro lense. Mount doesn't matter, because there is no penalty for having an all manual adapted lense when scanning.
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>>2849195
Don't use Macro filters. If you can't focus close enough, and don't want to get a macro lens, get extension tubes.
Dropping off 7 rolls of 35mm, 3 rolls of 220, and 3 rolls of 120 tomorrow. Guess I need to get a macro lens for my A7 since I don't have a scanner anymore. I can't for the life of me find a Canon FD 50mm 3.5 macro in stores. Might have to grab one off KEH and pay for international shipping...
>>2849244
Also recommend the Pentax M 50/4.
>like really sharp.
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>>2849219
OK, I think instead of buying the 50mm f1.2 I'll go with a 50mm f3.5 macro. My biggest problem is just getting the colours right. This one has too much of a bluish tint
some recent pictures took with a XD5 Minolta
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i thrifted a Canon AE-1 with a FD 50mm 1:1.8 lens, but it doesn't have a lens cap. what size/style of cap does it need?
sorry if this is the wrong thread
>>2849512
Check the size of the front element and find a cap for that size. I would not bother because it's not that valuable
>>2849512
Any 52mm lense cap in the world will work fine.
A guy in the last thread asked about cheap ebay colour filters for black and white?
I suggest buying a set of those, because they come with a good Nikon-style cap too.
52mm is a very common size, most manual focus Nikon and Canon lenses use it.
Best films for street photography?
>>2849664
Your favourite emulsion
Just got my Nokton 40mm f/1.4. I noticed that the aperture handle-thing on the left side wiggles by less than a millimeter but it makes an audible noise when it does. It doesn't really bother me, but I'm concerned that it might be a sign of bad things to come and I should return it. What are your thoughts on this?
>>2849702
I think you're an idiot.
I think I'm glad I don't work in the camera shop you use.
>>2849705
Why?
>>2849702
ive got the same lens. mine doesnt wiggle at all
>>2849259
I prefer to stick with one mount so I don't need to fiddle with adapters.
Here's a photo that I never bothered editing until now. Pretty sure it's Acros 100 developed in Rodinal.
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Mini contacts from today. Usually I cut one neg from the roll of 10 that's meh and use it to test out contact exposure, plus an 8x10 sheet only fits 9 negs, so it helps to cut one off and print it separate.
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>>2849804
I've got two full contact sheets as well, but I'll post them another time.
Tmax is really quite sharp but the tones are meh. Definitely need to slap a yellow filter on it. Tri-X handles better at full speed without a filter, in my opinion.
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>>2849244
They had same day turn-around for 35mm. Picking up the medium format in a week or so. No means to scan atm so here's some super half-assed A7 scans with improper improper lighting and lens.
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>>2849937
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>>2849941
Looks like scans of low quality schoolbook prints.
That dot pattern is a telltale sign.
How do you get your negatives out of this shit without fingerprints.
>>2849941
No shit did you not see the "half-assed A7 scans with improper lighting and lens" statement?
>>2849948
Use stamp tweezers. Or regular tweezers but only by the borders
>>2849950
then don't bother posting them, fucktard
I've already got a Leica M9 and two older Summicrons (35 and 50) and I was wondering if I should go for an M3 or an M6 for a film Leica.
>>2849965
Contax G2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56CP0D_JKtw
>>2849955
oh, yes, it's way easier than I thought.
>>2849948
Seriously invest in some cotton gloves for negative handling. Don't buy the shitty "Photo Handling" gloves from photo places, they are way too thin, and rip very easily. Find a website that sells marching band gloves, be sure to get the best quality cotton ones in a style you like, you can order like a pack of 5 for 3 dollars or some shit.
I've got a whole bunch of ilford delta 400/3200 that expired in 2013, and I don't want to just throw it away. Any tips for how I should expose/develop it? I read that you can get good results shooting expired 400 at 200 or 100, but not sure what to do with the 3200...
>>2850021
Don't worry about it
>expired 400 at 200
Rule of thumb is 1 stop for every ten years
http://www.popphoto.com/guide-to-shooting-expired-film
>>2850021
ilford delta 3200 is actually iso1000, you're just meant to natively push it. High speed film decays faster so consider overexposing the 3200 at least one stop even though it's only been 3 years. Or don't. It's not like its grain can get any worse.
Here's the other contacts from last night.
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>>2850043
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some peektors
1/ ?
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>>2849387
all nice
did you do the multiple exposures in camera?
>>2850170
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>>2850175
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>>2850176
green
>>2850186
cmon bro they're not that small !
>>2850186
filesize too big, anon gets mad
filesize too small, anon gets mad too
Best get that image exactly 1000 pixels wide
>>2849979
>recommending the G2
Now, I feel you buddy. I fucking love Contax and I love Yashica but I would never recommend anyone buys a Contax G/T or even MF body. They're not the most reliable and are mostly unrepairable nowadays. For the price you can usually find something that suits your needs better.
>>2849965
I'd go for an M6, but that's just my preference for the lightmeter, form factor and rewind knob. Both cameras are a good choice though.
>>2850168
can you not read?
>>2850249
i put "kodak 400tmy-2" into google and it came back as Kodak T-max
>>2850239
What if I get both for £1200?
I know a lot of people own both but I was wondering if it would be worth buying the M6 first and using that for a bit before I go for the M3 since if I get both I may not be able to get a good amount of use out of either.
Also, would getting a 2.8 50mm elmar be worth it?
A guy is selling a Nikon f3(good condition) with 50mm 1.2 ais for 350$.
Should I accept this deal?
>went to Japan
>took my Hasselblad
>forgot my glasses
>a lot of my shots are slightly out of focus
Such is life.
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>>2850718
>problems of an slr user
>>2850172
Yep everywthing is done in camera , scanned with plustek 7200 and added a bit contrast ,that's all
>>2850698
yes.
>>2850204
>board devoted to photography and analyzing pictures
>hurr durr guys make sure your photos are smaller than those posted on all other boards durr
I'm looking for a very small M39/LTM camera. Any suggestions?
(full frame and with the correct flange distance of course, so the Chaika doesn't count)
>tfw want to go out with my Nikon F2 everyday but it's heavy af and i probably won't even shot with it most of the days because i'm a fag for not wasting film on shit
being glasses wearer is truly suffering. can't even see the metering on my r3m normally
>>2851204
Get a diopter?
>>2851168
>F2
>heavy af
Puh-lease
I only shoot colored film so I don't really need a filter. However I want to protect the front element of my rangefinder especially since it is fixed lens. What filter should I get?
Does the cheap Chinese brands really negatively affect the quality? Should I go go for a lens cap instead?
>>2851210
b-b-b-but it is
specially with the DP-2 and heavy glass
>>2851230
If you want a filter to use as transparent lens cap, get UV0 or protective non-filter. Chinese "multi-coated" filters do the job as well as mid-priced western ones.
All filters do negatively affect image quality. If you are shooting without tripod it's irrelevant in practice. And when you shoot with a tripod, take the filter off.
>>2851300
>If you are shooting without tripod it's irrelevant in practice. And when you shoot with a tripod, take the filter off.
wut
>>2851302
A filter will reduce contrast and sharpness a bit.
Shooting handheld will significantly reduce sharpness, depending of the exposure time, how shaky one is and how good is the image stabilization.
My current series is coming along nicely. Just ordered more XTOL, some ilford rapid fixer and more 8x10's. Gonna shoot for maybe another month or so and try to gather at least 15-20 nice shots. Probably will make a thread soon with my progress so far.
Pic related, this is from Friday.
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>>2851321
what is this series about?
>>2851321
dont flatten the tonality like that. if the shirt got blown to fuck, fuck it. priority is the guys face.
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>>2851321
weird bokeh, what lens/camera combo?
>>2851329
what about some of the old dodge and burn in the darkroom?
>>2851333
>It's a series of portraits revolving around a popular park in my city. It's not groundbreaking but I love the park and I'd like to maybe have it displayed in the city hall gallery.
cool stuff. cities need that for once. it helps the community life.
>Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.
np bro.
>>2851331
yeah thatll work too. i dunno what he is going to do, he talked about prints and displaying it big, so darkroom printing seems to be the option here.
>>2851329
I do like your edit a bit more. Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.
>>2851325
It's a series of portraits revolving around a popular park in my city. It's not groundbreaking but I love the park and I'd like to maybe have it displayed in the city hall gallery.
>>2851330
t b h the bokeh is more a product of the scan than anything else. This is from an RZ67 with the Z 90 3.5. When printed the bokeh is very smooth, but my scanner seems to read the negative a little more harshly.
I'm switching to the 110 2.8 this week, so hopefully that won't be a problem anymore.
>>2851331
That's most likely what I'll do when I print this. The image on the contact actually looks way closer to anon's edit, the print should be similar as well. I'm honestly more skilled at enlargements than scanning, so I'm still fine tuning my editing technique.
Have one more, if you like. Don't complain about reposts come thread time tho.
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I'm curious, for those who shot film and digital, do you carry around both? How do you decide which to use? Do they share lenses?
>>2851336
i shoot both.
digital is for my work, stills and short videos. also for peeking into others appartments with my tele lens. i never take it to the streets. also i use it to preview long exposures i end doing with film.
film for street, travels and fun shooting. my dslr shares lenses with my spotmatic.
>>2851336
That's a bit of a loaded question, in my case.
If I'm using medium format, I probably don't have my digital. But I will often carry my digital and a 35mm. I keep different lenses on each. usually 35mm on digi and 50 on film.
If I'm going on a trip, I'll use my digital some, switch to 35mm, switch back. I might use film specifically for a shot I think will look good with it, and vice versa.
I do not use 35mm for anything serious. Just travel and street snaps.
Do y'all develop your own color film or send them off? Nobody around where I live develops film anymore.
>>2851336
Always carry either a ricoh gr or film compact on me at all times. I'll take the film camera if I want to prioritize on making a cohesive set of shots at once around the same time
I'll carry the gr most of the time because if I run across something that's interesting even if I cannot get a good shot of it then I can take a quick snap to take note of it to come back and look at how I can compose a better shot after the fact
wow would you look at this. i didnt know it even existed until today. get a load of this patrician pack. its like those top grade parfum testers of like 10ml each.
>>2851351
Patricians know what they shoot.
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>>2851351
New Portra 400 is all you need. You can shoot it at 100 and develop as normal or shoot it all the way up to 1600 with a little dev compensation. It doesn't give a single fuck.
>>2851355
They should know how to not fuck up their film during development.
>>2851357
it tends towards a stabilized exposure?
>>2851355
you dont know shit about being a patrician.
>>2851321
why on earth are you shooting 6x7 if you're printing on 8x10s?
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>>2851361
:^)
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oh more rolls to waste in camera testing. cool i guess.
>>2851373
<8-)
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>>2851374
>remember, at f/1.2 at this distance, depth of field is only a few millimetres; only the screws are in focus
JUST
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Posting some Hp5+ snaps.
>>2851336
Fuck no I don't shoot both. One camera at a time. I MAY take my Stylus Epic to keep in my pocket if it's a multi-day trip.
Filesize is huge. Sorry
>>2851406
Man I cant find a stylus epic anywhere. I have an XA but it's in immaculate condition and I'd rather it not get banged up
>>2851407
>Filesize is huge
Then fucking resize?
>>2851365
Actually the end goal size for this series is 11x14 or larger, possibly. I just don't have the money to buy a shit ton of large paper right now, and my scanner only accepts up to 8.5x11. Basically my only output is to web right now so I make 8x10 prints (which look amazing) and then scan them in, because I get sharper results with better tones, as compared to negative scanning on the flatbed.
Also, what exactly would I be doing with a bunch of gallery sized snap shits? I also make a lot 35mm prints on 5x7, and sometimes I print 6x7 negs that way too. They make lovely little post cards.
>>2851336
I don't carry both at the same time, I hate carrying a bunch of gear. I decide if I want to shoot film or digital just based on my mood. I have a single pool of manual focus and autofocus Nikon lenses with a manual focus film SLR, an autofocus SLR, and a digital SLR to choose from.
I used to have an m43 kit for digital and also some Leica film stuff but I'm slowly selling all of it because having a single kit is a lot more convenient and I don't have as much gear sitting around.
>>2851563
He said sorry
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I don't think I should've gone so quickly into film. I feel like I still got a lot stuff to learn and try out and it's really difficult to experiment with just film. I should've gotten a proper digital camera first.
What happened to the challenge of editing a digital picture to look like a film picture? Someone wanted to take a film and digital picture of the same scene from the same angle and someone else wanted to edit it. I don't remember what thread that was in.
>>2852209
Thats not a good way to prove anything. To imitate a pre-existing film shot is very different to predict it.
>>2851405
nice one. Is this a film scan? I guess a wet print would look much better.
Found a roll of fuji 400h, critique my scans
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>>2852357
all shot on a Yashica LM btw
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>>2852359
and scanned on a flatbed scanner, sharpened in lightroom.
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>>2852360
I didn't see much difference in files between this and my X-T1 with film emulation.
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>>2852361
MF slide film is amazing to look at but I had a lot of trouble scanning it.
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Are there any any rangefinder recommendations for a newby to rangefinders? I'm hoping to spend like less than £50.
I mainly just want to make sure I'm comfortable with rangefinder focusing before I get something more expensive.
>>2852501
O L Y M P U S X A
>>2852503
How does the focusing work on this beast?
I'm thinking about dropping £600 on a Leica M6 and would like to try my hand at focusing method similar to a Leica.
>>2852550
>How does the focusing work on this beast?
there's a yellow patch that you match up with the rest of the frame to focus with that little white lever on the bottom
above the lens under the viewfinder is a little range dial too
I guess its better to post here than gear thread.
I have a Minolta x-700, and I would like to acquire a flash. I have never used one before (on a film camera), how to chose one? Any that fit the hotshoe?
>>2852563
Well what do you want it for? Do you want a manual flash where you have to calculate guide numbers and stuff, do you want TTL automatic flash (if that camera even supports that), do you want to use it off-camera?
If you want any automated features then you'll need some sort of Minolta flash, probably. If you're doing it manually then any flash with a hotshoe should work.
>>2852582
I'd say TTL would quite help as I have no experience with, except if manual isn't that hard to learn?
Newfag to film cameras.
Is there any benefit in getting something new, such as a Nikon FM10, over an older, used camera such as a Canon EOS 3 or Nikon F3?
>>2853838
Which lenses you can use
There's a ton of nikon lenses that work on lots of bodies but canon has a bunch that are a bit fiddly i.e. them dropping fd for fl and then ef, etc lol
>>2853843
Carl Zeiss 50mm 1.4 at the moment...
whats the difference between a 28, 35 and 50mm?
>>2853869
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_length#In_photography
Canon AE 1 vs Nikon F3 vs Nikon FM10?
>>2853875
Fuck you
>>2853876
Thanks Leafy
>>2853875
How about you do your own research and figure out which body has the lenses and features you want
Do yourself a favor and hold each one in your hand and cycle through everything and I mean everything because on paper they might look similar but as someone who's used all three of those cameras they've definitely got some differences worth comparing
>>2853883
No.
I know that there are old fags on this with fucktons of experience and knowledge. Why don't they tell me?
Your fucktons of knowledge is worthless.
>>2853885
>Your fucktons of knowledge is worthless.
For you.
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>>2853875
Well the AE-1 is cut-rate budget garbage from a second rate brand, it's only popular and overpriced now because the camera was produced in such huge numbers and because Canon today is a much better brand and people who don't know think that applies to the older cameras too.
And the FM-10 is Cosina rebranded garbage and it's a scam aimed at photo 101 students who don't know any better and want to buy a brand new camera thinking it will be better than buying a used camera when in fact it is a plastic piece of shit.
And then there is the F3 which is a legendary camera and in my objective opinion the best camera ever made.
>>2853885
>I know that there are old fags on this with fucktons of experience and knowledge. Why don't they tell me?
Because we don't come here to personal shop you, you lazy motherfucker.
>>2852563
If you can't be bothered with manual settings and want a TTL auto flash, there's a ton of Minolta ones around. I use Minolta 2800 AF on my X-700, it was intended for AF cameras, but works with the X-700 just fine.
>>2852361
Your fuckbuddy looks like a human being.
>>2853885
>Why don't they tell me?
Because they don't know what you're using it for and why
>Your fucktons of knowledge is worthless
Says the person asking for advice
>>2853885
>Your fucktons of knowledge is worthless.
I didn't gain my fucktons of knowledge so that I could work at best buy and help you make an informed purchase, I did it so that I can take photos and have a tool that's right for me.
Do your fucking googling, you ass
>>2853925
The a-1 and f-1 are pretty great though
>>2851984
It's not difficult to experiment with film, it just takes more patience and risk-taking. Especially patience.
But it's always good to dabble in both modes of photography, film and digital.
>>2853875
The best thing you'll get from an AE-1 is compatibility with all of the FD lenses that were made. Other than that, there's nothing special about this camera at all. I don't know much about the FM10, but it doesn't look too bad. But you can get it for a price similar to the F3 which is much more robust (and of course, legendary as one anon put it), it looks like. Never had one. For affordability, go with the AE1. It works well. For quality (which isn't necessary if you're just starting out with film photography), go with the F3.
>>2853921
>>2853931
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>>2853951
Woah, woah look at these old big dick butthurt filmfags.
Fact 101 about these fag:
They have tons of extra minutes to insult you, and at the same time they don't have time to answer your question.
You egoistic motherfuckers, because of /p/ am I trying my best to get in film, but look at your film community, fucking no respect for new guys.
Keep shaking your big dicks in darkrooms, keep competing in dick waving contests on /p/ and don't share you knowledge with anybody.
No doubt you guys have tons and tons of knowledge but I don't give a fuck if you don't respect me.
If you guys licked some balls for your success then why the fuck you guys are doing the same thing with new guys?
We are digitalgen and still some fags are trying to get in and you guys are treating him like savage that's why FILM IS DEAD, fags. You guys are same from local old dicks to social madcucks.
>>2854031
>fucking no respect for new guys.
It's having no respect for someone who won't google his own fucking basic shit, and who doesn't respect us enough to not waste our fucking time.
Know why I have time to insult you? Because it's fun, and makes an idiot mad, which is always worthwhile. If I take that same amount of time to in stead spoon feed you information like a fucking toddler, then I am mad, you have learned nothing, and you'll be back in a week asking why your shit sucks, since you didn't put in any effort to learn what you needed, or how to fucking use it, and we've just signed ourselves up for a part time volunteer job teaching you every fucking thing when there are already thousands of resources out there that you could quietly consume on your own.
Contribute to the fucking board, or get the fuck out. We don't work here, we're here to have fun, and holding your fucking remedial hand isn't fun.
>>2854031
Stay mad Omichan ^.^
>>2854031
In the time you've been having a temper tantrum you could have googled everything on those cameras
>>2854031
is this pasta tho?
>>2854031
>being this mad
hahaha o boy
>>2854035
>when there are already thousands of resources out there that you could quietly consume on your own.
B..but isn't the 4chan experts are the best?
I'm going to be going to NYC soon and want to shoot some color film while I'm there. I've been shooting and developing B&W for a little over 2 years now but want to give color a try. What films would you recommend and what would be a good place to get it processed? I'm not interested in having a place print and scan for me, just process. Thanks.
>>2854108
ektar
>>2853952
Yes, but the AE-1 and AE-1P are the rabals of their day and they shit the bed all the time and yet people pay more for those than they do for actual proper high end SLRs from the same era, solely because they see lots of other people also owning AE-1s.
>>2854131
>they shit the bed all the time
Their biggest issue is the cough which can be fixed with a needle full of lubricant and a screwdriver in 15 minutes
>and yet people pay more for those than they do for actual proper high end SLRs from the same era
You can get ae-1's all day at goodwill for 5 bucks. That's where I got mine. I've since swapped to using an a-1 since I mostly bought that one because it had that nice 24mm 2.8 on it
They're hardly bad cameras it's just comparing an ae-1 to an F3 is no contest. It's like comparing apples to apple pie
>>2853875
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>>2854031
Nobody wants to help you because the very idea of anyone cross-shopping those 3 cameras is ludicrous, and completely reveals how little energy and thought you put into choosing a camera for yourself before you came here asking to be spoonfed.
You've come here and asked us what you should choose between a 20 year old Camry, a brand new Civic or an NSX.
>why don't you go to >>>/int/ and ask in your native tongue, you ignorant slavic piece of shit
Back with one more sample from the series. Been scanning mostly lately, gonna eventually get in the darkroom and knock out some larger prints soon.
Got the 110/2.8 for my RZ, holy fuck this thing is great.
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>>2854172
>NSX
hnnggggg been saving for one for the past year. those prices better stop fucking rising
>>2854499
What the hell are you scanning with? 11000x10000 ?!
Finally had a roll developed from my trip to Bergen, Norway.
Shot on Ektar 100 and it was my first go using a rangefinder so a few are a bit odd around the edges.
I'll post a couple here.
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>>2854619
Any flatbed at 4800dpi will produce that res from a 6x7 neg, but if that is what he's scanning with it's likely not resolving any more detail than if he just scanned at 2400dpi.
>>2854643
I don't notice any additional detail over 1600 dpi on my V500. Frowny face.
>>2854630
>>2854635
I like these a lot
Meanwhile not having access to a decent scanner is suffering. Wish I could afford a V750 or V800.
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>>2849938
just like in my animated chinese cartoons
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>>2855005
is that you, Junk? If you see a dude with a light grey hat and a Bronica SQ walking around Mount Pleasant today and Sunday, say hi.
>>2848986
i use delta 100 and sometimes i used delta 400 and im in love with them.
I just got some film back from a local photo shop and I'm wondering what in the dick happened to it.
Loaded and shot fine inside the camera. I've had the film for a while but like a year at max. They claim the roll itself was faulty but I'm not sure. Anybody able to tell me? I've attached a picture of a large scratch which the store clerk blamed the fault on.
AGFA APX 100 36exp, shot with a fully working Vivitar 35EE
>>2855464
Looks like the backplate pushed against the film and caused it to scrape against the chassis. How are you so certain the camera is fine?
>>2855382
I think the only reason i go to mount pleasant these days is to visit ABC photo
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Trying and failing to be kawauchi rinko
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What's that?
Do I hear people shit-talking AE-1's?
I still have mine and I passed up the opportunity of getting a Nikon F3. The reason is fairly simple, when you're an amateur or a beginner, you need to learn shit, it's like buying a ferrari over a cheap Volkswagen golf, the former won't make you a better driver or help you learn any better.
The Canon AE-1 is that golf, it just does exactly what it was advertised as.
When I got a bit better after having the AE-1 for a while, I came across the magnificent F3. The modularity is fucking awesome, the design and build quality basically make it a scientific precision tool for high quality image acquisition. It actually is used (or was) in universities with it's many detachable backs and drum-roll film holders, for engineering studies.
However, for an average photographer (I'm intermediate at best), it's a big investment into something you won't use 80% of. All a camera is, is a timed shutter curtain which directs focused light onto a photochemically active film sheet. Whether it's a shit-tier camera or a high end one, this is the bottom principle of all 35mm film cameras.
The other thing about the Nikon F3 is that it's fully electronic, and has mostly electronic components. If any of those break, it's a pain, if not impossible to repair. The Canon-AE1 being so common has replaceable parts an Ebay click away.
If I had the money I'd get an F2, less features, but more robust. But only if I had money and I had every other front satisfied (e.g.: good enough skills, decent other equipment such as digital, happy with my current results).
Also, the results you'll get will be so minutely different that the cost investment won't be worth it. An F3 will just be super reliable and good to use. So are you a war photographer? A professional street photographer? Do you do high-profile shots that require your gear to be on point 24/7? If your answer is NO, to any of these questions, you don't need a fucking F3.
>>2855465
I bought the camera refurbished and checked from a reputable online seller (a camera store). Also the scratch is only about halfway down the film, surely the backplate would consistently push & scratch?
>>2855487
Yeah but the ae1 is shit because it is made out of shit tier plastic. Canon was inferior to nikon. I use a Olympus om 1
>>2855499
You must be a very well regarded plastic connoisseur because the AE-1 plastic is tough as nails yet relatively light. I've dropped it on concrete twice, from a height of 1m, and it didn't leave a scratch.
>>2855520
>I've dropped it on concrete twice, from a height of 1m, and it didn't leave a scratch.
You are flat out lying. You could drop a ball of steel onto concrete from 1m and it would scratch. There is no plastic on Earth that would handle that. If you want to push it though, feel free to record a video of you dropping it, and then holding the camera up for examination afterwards.
>>2855520
I was able to dent the frame of the Olympus and nearly break the film holder and it works just as fine as it did when I first bought it. I had the shutter lock on me on the ae1 and because of the shit plastic gears broke and got stuck in the mechanisms.
>>2855499
It's silly to compare the om-1 to the ae-1 though considering they're not in the same class
The om-10 and the ae-1 are far more similar
>>2848888
I like that lots of the old Nikon/Nikkor lenses still work on the modern DSLRs.
>>2855530
I like that any lens works with an a7
>>2855523
Ok, maybe not 1m, but it was from hip height, and the second time it was on dirt while cycling and having the camera around my shoulder. The plastic is durable as fuck, and by scratch I mean visible scratch/dent not some pussy hairline shit.
>>2855528
Yeah, well maybe you got diddled by the seller and they sold you some garbagesale-tier crap. I got mine with only the tripod mount hold slightly scratched. An ex-canon service guy did a full inspection and cleaning, and said it was in very good working order.
>>2855487
True AF
I like this one
>>2853936
Thanks, will look for it!
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>>2855645
nice piper
>>2855678
Thanks dude,
First time flying, it was pretty cool
>>2855702
nice
I've been flying for 3 months, working on my ppl
I would like to try some aerial stuff but kind of hard to do that and not crash
when I'm able to carry passengers il invite some friends, mite be cool
Is there a way to clean drying streaks off negative or am I just fucked?
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>>2855722
Rinse it again and this time use photo-flo or a tiny bit of dish soap to get it to dry properly without streaking.
>>2855722
haven't done film processing in a while but when i did it in college, they had this chemical we applied before drying that kept the negatives from getting water streaks. I forget what it's called, had a corporate-sounding name like "photo-rite" or something.
I don't know what to tell you about your current negatives though, maybe water then dry again?
>>2855722
This rather looks scratched. Have you used a film squeegee?
>>2855722
Leave it in water of about 20 degrees for 5 minutes and then rinse it for a minute with photoflo and you should be good. If you are using sponges make sure they are clean and that you have squeezed out as much water as you can from them after wetting them. Remember not to wringe sponges, only squeeze.
That's a tasty looking neg even if the subject is dull. Is it 4x5? What film and dev?
>>2855722
is this 4x5 or 6x7?
>>2855725
>>2855728
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>>2855733
Cheers everyone, I will try 20C water for 5 mins tomorrow, do not have photoflo so i'll try dilute dish soap. Will post results.
>>2855736
>>2855748
They were shot about 5 years ago:
645 negatives
Bronco etrs 75mm 2.8
Ilford fp4+ ISO125
Cannot remember dev but was probably Ilfotec DD
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>>2855755
*Bronica etrs
>>2855755
Shit, what'd you scan them on? Crisp af
>>2855759
I don't really have a formal setup for this, so yeah lol
Sony A7 + Macro Takumar 50mm @f11
>>2854630
Love those crazy lines
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>>2855762
looks like you're getting nice results tho, jelly
>>2854630
B E R G E N
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>>2855874
great
Everyone, please. These scans are so bad. Everyone, please. Send help.
>>2856037
Same fagging I think.
>>2856037
where are your scans?
>>2855762
#intheghetto
So it's your /fgt/ OP here. Today I bought about 300-ish sheets of 4x5 colour and a 100' roll of 35mm Fuji IT-N for $70AUD.
I do not yet own an LF camera.
Can someone who isn't Sugar share some wisdom with me about what I should start looking for?