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Vintage Lens thread? I bought this one, I failed at being fool
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Vintage Lens thread?

I bought this one, I failed at being fool frame so this lens I guess will be good for my crop sensor to have this be a 50mm equivalent
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>>2840978
Please start a grammar thread first.
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>>2840984
hello Mr...curns! I bad...want...money now...me sick
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Bought this for portrait shooting on MFT.

I'm thinking the Canon is one of the more ugly 50mm lenses around. Let's hope it at least performs well.

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>>2841114
Your an retarded person :DDD

Or a clueless broke ass student.

even if you buy a 50 1.4 to simulate a 100 f/2.8 on that babbycam equipped with a holga sensor, 50mms are still the el cheapo all-rounders, you'll get crappy bokeh as they aren't made with portraits in mind.

The most retarded are the ones buying the "classic" 50 1.8 for their rabal as their 1st lens after the kit one to make portraits and "low light all-rounder" with a 75mm eq on apsc.
Just wait a couple of months and save to buy something proper for your needs.
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>>2841121
I wanted to get something around that focal length for cheap to see how I find it, as well as to figure out how I like making do with MF only. I've shot a 105/2.8 for portraits on FF before so figured this would be reasonable thing to try out.

What are the obvious non-retarded choices in your mind?
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>>2841114
ive got one but the ssc model

I love it so much I usually end up taking my a-1 out so I can get the regular fov with it
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>>2841152
Why did you get 12 shitty lenses instead of one real good one?
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>>2841155
>one real good one
What exactly would that be?
Most of these would be diffraction limited in resolution by f/4 in the centre and f/8 across the frame.
Any sane person would consider that 'really good'.
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>>2841164
>>2841155

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Just a reminder that the Helios 44M has the thick ray prism logo which was designed after 1993.
So while the 44M is an old lens design and M42 mount, the lens itself is not vintage at all. See pic related.
I have the same 44M and my god the newer builds are fucking sharp and the coating is actually working!
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>>2841166
Compared to the other lenses in my stash, it's not that sharp.
In fact everything bar the Meritar and Astron would be sharper.
And the lense came on a Moscow Olympics Edition Zenit EM, so I doubt it's a 93 or later build, in spite of what your chart might say.
I took this photo to show that it wasn't unusably soft, but it's still no prize winner.

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>>2841169
All lens except todays few superlenses get soft wide open. Mines peak performance is at f/5.6. Also that example shot is worthless because it is at such an angle it is near impossible to get most of it sharp. What you see there as "not sharp" is actually the bokeh.
BTW have you tried it on a macro extender? mine performs quite well. Excuse the bad shot, I was just quickly testing it around the backyard.

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>>2841152
What's your favourite and why? What do you like to shoot with it? (On what camera?)

Any work you can share?
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Anyone can recommend a decent cheapish (up to 150 usd) tele vintage lens? My preference would be anywhere between 90 to 150mm. Mount doesnt really matter as i will be using an adapter.
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>>2841175
Pentacon 135/2.8 6 blade aperture version (non-bokehmonster)
I have one and it is fantasticly sharp.
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>>2841176
It's a shit lens. Vivitar 135mm f2.8 is far superior, especially with its bokeh. Beroflex 135mm f2.8 is good too. The 100mm is unusally seen but a great performer but he might not like the bokeh. Olympus 85mm f2 is compact, well build, nice render.
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>>2841208
>shit lens
[citation needed]
I didn't expect vintage lens users to be such brandwhores.
The Pentacon 135/2.8 is the Meyer Goerlitz design produced by Meyer Optik Gmbh. A company on par with Carl Zeiss Jena.
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I bought this thing.

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>>2841234
Here's it makeshift mounted on my camera.

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>>2841241
...dude
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>>2841174
Well the 50L is my favourite, but it had want to be for $700 or so.
It's sharp wide open, pic related.
Having the Nikkor is all the proof you need, it's mush by comparison.
I really like the Pentax Macro as well.
>>2841172
>Also that example shot is worthless
The point obviously isn't to get the whole picture sharp, it's to be able to see the plane of best focus.
That's only on a crop sensor, and while it's sharp enough in the centre at both apertures, it visibly softens as you move out in the frame.
Ruskis BTFO.

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>>2841243
Of course it softens towards the edges, it is a double gauss design. You don't buy a double gauss lens to be sharp everywhere from wide open, you buy a modern Zeiss superlens for $3900 for that.
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>>2841243
Oh and if you have reading disabilities, that shot was an example of the macro capabilities. It wasn't cropped (other than the crop sensor itself).
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>>2841242
Yes?
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>>2841269
...
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dude
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I want to buy the famous Helios 44M to put it on my old Pentax slr body.
What's /p/ opinion on that lens ?
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>>2841208
>Vivitar 135mm f2.8
I see a few different vivitars at these specs? or is it just the design is slightly different on some of them?
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>>2841278

The 44M isn't the good version, anyone who tells you that is troling or got memed into purchasing one for themselves.

The KMZ made 44-2 is the best version of the Helios.
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>>2841275
It's great, I know.
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>>2841282
>44-2

Like this one ?
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/USSR-1980-HELIOS-44-2-f2-58mm-Swirly-Bokeh-Effect-Lens-M42-ScrewVERY-GOOD-/111996416894?hash=item1a1381b37e:g:QrkAAOSwfZhXNdWi#viTabs_0
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>>2841289

correct version but wrong manufacturer (valdai), when the russians started manufacturing these lenses they did so at several different factories, KMZ was the best factory, you can identify what factory each lens was made in with the small logo marking.. You want a 44-2 with the KMZ logo (pic related)
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>>2841296

Than you.
I saw that logo on few lenses, I was wondering the meaning.

Anything else should I know ?
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>>2841308
all russian lenses have the logo of the factory where it was made. There are a few, some of those did mostly M42 systems including the cameras, some RF only, some did everything including the shitty toy cameras.
KMZ was the primary contractor for the military, they made some of the targeting systems and gun cameras for the MiGs, Mi helis and tanks and other optical stuff.
There is a rich historical background for these cheap little lenses.
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>>2841234
what focal length you getting with that ?
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>>2841241
And photos taken with it?
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>>2841121
Not sure if troll, but 50mm 1.4 if still 50mm 1.4 on a M4/3, but it is the equivalent of 1 100mm 1.4 on full frame. Aperture doesn't change with sensor size dumbass.
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>>2841326
The aperture number is a ratio to the focal length. 50/1.4 is approximately 36mm, but 100/36 is approximately 2.8 - hence 100 f/2.8.
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>>2841321
Not at a computer right now, will upload some later.
>>2841320
No clue, it's not labeled except the fact it goes from f/8-f/64. How would I determine that?
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>>2841326
The aperture size does not change but the DoF is also affected by sensor size, and as such is equivalent to 100 2.8 on a full frame sensor
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>>2841331
Did you really put a view camera lens on a crop camera?
That's like the ultimate crop. Also enjoy your diffraction softness, that lens was not meant for such pixel density. It is most likely a wet plate system lens. The crop factor must be at least 5. Most likely even more.
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>>2841337
Oh yeah, don't worry. I wasn't expecting great results or supery dupery sharp images for just that reason.
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>>2841329
>>2841334
I understand DoF will be affected by aperature and sensor area, but a f/1.4 lens will gather just as much light and be just as fast regardless of sensor.
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>>2841226
> a company on par with Carl Zeiss Jena
Aha, wow, you funny guy! You're almost right, since Jena is the underdog ripped by the commies.

>>2841281
Pic related.
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>>2841350
Yes. But many people like to be able to have a narrow depth of field when they need it. Nobody is saying it's more dim. They're pointing out that the lens is less versatile.
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>>2841356
CZJ and Meyer was part of Pentacon, you massive tool.
Go see all the examples for the Pentacon 135/2.8 and see how sharp it is.
Go on, there's mflenses, Flickr, dpreview etc...
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Hey guys im about to buy my second film camera and it will be my first slr. Its between the minolta xd 11, minolta srt 101, minolta x 370, and the canon ae 1. Im really having trouble figuring out if i should get full manual or what i really should get because i want it to last a while.
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>>2841367
I actually own both of this lenses. Among others.
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>>2841479
So? Owning a faulty misaligned piece doesn't mean that every other is shit.
Statistics of one is just an opinion aka not worth anything.
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>>2841492
I got two Pentacon 135mm non-preset. Try again.
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>>2841510
Buy from a reliable resource next time.
Also learn to focus properly.
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>>2841527
>>2841510
Also some source on sharpness:
http://forum.mflenses.com/pentacon-auto-2-8-135-mc-first-time-use-lots-of-images-t48566,highlight,%2Bpentacon+%2B135.html
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Fujifag here.

What good old lenses is worth putting on a xt10?
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>>2841943
Same as any other lenses good for APS-C. Your camera is not that special.
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>>2841950
>b-but muh nex-5 sensor w/ staggered bayer filter
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>>2841958
Fuck off! Take your brandfagging back to the fuji thread!
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>>2841296

I sometime see that logo on the front.
Do you know what it means ?

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>>2841968
That's the kebab logo, you must remove it.
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Bought this. It's awesome.
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>>2841282
Bullshit, the higher the number after 44, the sharper the lens. For example if you don't care about swirly bokeh then a 44-4 is a far better option.
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>>2841971
>buying the wrong wide angle nikkor
Sorry 4 ur loss, bae.

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>>2841974
>muh 1 stop faster
>muh 10 degrees wider
jk it doesn't matter
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What are the best cameras for use with vintage lenses?
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>>2841977
any mirrorless with focus peaking
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>>2841977
Mirrorless ones. Way more adaptable due to the small flange distance.
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>>2841972
this
Seeing the logos in >>2841166
the latest is the 44M without any other numbering. Still results may wary.

>>2841977
Any DSLR with focus peaking or replaced focusing screen.
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>>2841978
Oh yeah and manual focus gets way more fun with focus peaking _b
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>>2841976
>sharp wide open
>dresses modestly
>good at sex
w/evs bruv, I know who made the right choice.

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>>2841978
>>2841980

Should I go fuji or sony??

Should I get recent ones or older 2nd hand models??
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>>2841972

I'm actually looking for that bokeh.
So the 44-2 is better for my use ?

Also, I found this.
So it's sharper than the 44-2 but I won't have that swirly bokeh, is that it ?
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>>2841984
You call that sharp?
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>>2841984
different strokes for different folks

it was dirt cheap and I needed a fast 35mm equiv. lens on Super 35 for video
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>>2841988
For more pronounced swirly bokeh, get the Helios 77 instead.
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>>2841992

It's not the same price range, though.
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>>2841988
If you want swirly bokeh on a budget then the 44-2 is the way to go. Also, if you want to give it a twist then get one from ebay with square aperture mod.
I'm planning to buy one just to make some cyberpunk-ish pictures.
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>>2841972
Jesus christ.
All 44m-x i tried was shit and only simple 44-2 and 44-3 were sharp. Enjoy you quality spread.
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Is sony mirrorless a better option for vintage glasses than fuji??
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>>2840978
if i want vintage, minolta is best.
image quality really looks vintage.
had an auto chinon 50 1.7, contrast was bleh.
the tomioka design might be better.
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>>2842013
I have 2 helios 44-2 and one is far sharper than the other.
ALL HAIL THE SOVIET QUALITY CONTROL!
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>>2842013
It's a russian lens, what did you expect? This is why I bought mine slightly above price but actually tested by the seller.
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Mine.
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>>2842028
Yep.
I am jelly.
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>>2842028
Damn. That jupiter 9 is so sexy.
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>>2842028
is that lens separation and fungus in the jupiter 9?

ok i'll take my jealously
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>>2842035

No it's just a reflection. I bought it new about 15 years ago.
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What's a deece/cheap ultra wide vintage lens? The wider the better!
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>>2842071
MIR 24mm
CZJ 24mm
Zenitar 16mm
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>>2841152

And you faggots dare call me a gearfag I don't have 12 different lenses of the same focal length
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>>2842098
Only because nobody has thrown away a box of 12 of the same focal length on a street where you're doing your "camera shopping".

Also, being a gear fag has less to do with the gear you own, and more to do with your "bragging about gear" to good photo ratio.

Alex, for instance, almost never brags about his gear, and only mentions he has it because he can beat it up and it doesn't break. Never boasts about lenses, or CLAs, or format size. Takes great photos. Low brag to high photo rate.

You, on the other hand...
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>>2842101

stay mad poorfags

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>>2842102
The lack of self awareness is just astonishing. If it were anyone else, I'd assume it was trolling.
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>>2842102
>taking photos OF the gear
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>>2842106
Not even aesthetically pleasing photos in nice light in a nice setting suggesting they're being used. A hipster takes better bragging photos of his macbook at Starbucks than Sugar does of his gear. They're not photos, they're proof of ownership for insurance purposes.

Unfortunately, the total value of kit on that shitty bed is still more than the total value of every photo he's ever taken. It's a shame, since he's out of a job now, and any talent at photography at all would maybe help him be able to pay rent.
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>>2842028

What is the lens in the middle ?
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>>2842015
The FF mirrorless series, yes. The A6xxx series? No, not really.
Which you use depends on if you want a crop focal length or not.
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>>2842110
looks like a zenit 20mm based on logo and a number i can't quite make out
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>>2842110

Mir 20/3,5. It looks like a fisheye but it's not
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Should i get a takumar 28mm 3.5 or zuiko 28mm 3.5?
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>>2842170
Tak
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>>2842106
literally only reason to ever post a photo on /p/

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>>2842344
Pile of junk if you ask me. At least the cameras look nice.
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>>2841241
>>2841234
>>2841337
>>2841321
Here's 1/2 of the photos I shat out with it.

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>>2842427
2/2
I'm a fucking amazing photographer, I know.

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>>2842170
I dunno about the Takumar (I only have memelios for m42), but my Zuiko 28mm f3.5 is really good for what it cost. Both on film and adapted to digital.
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>>2841977
Pentax does really well with M42 and all the K mount lenses.

Get a split prism replacement focusing screen, or if you're in a hurry turn until the camera beeps in focus peaking mode.
Pentax allows for auto metering with the green button (it throws the aperture for a moment) which is sick if you don't have time.

>>2842015
Pentax for cost effective vintage playtime.

Honestly vintage lenses, except for very few exceptions, don't stand up to decent modern lenses for bread and butter qualities. Good modern zooms are catching up to excellent vintage primes let alone modern primes (50mm f1.2 Nikon, Sony T* 55/1.8, DA* 50, Sigma HSM and Art, FA* 85 etc etc).

Only weird vintage lenses like the Pentax "soft" prime, 50 & 35 f0.7, and swirl bokeh lenses really offer anything that modern does not - assuming you can afford modern lenses.
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>>2842098
That's because what I have might be reasonably considered a "collection", Sugar.
You have a handful of old broken garbage, because you're Florida white trash.
I've built up kits where I might choose to go out one day photographing with Pentacks cameras, or Nikon, or Canon FD, or Canon EF, or Konishiroku AR, or Oly OM, depending what I feel like.
>that's right, I have more that aren't even in that photo
And the difference is that I DO take photos, and I post them.
>nikkor 50/1.2 @ f/8 or so

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>>2842456
>Only weird vintage lenses like the Pentax "soft" prime, 50 & 35 f0.7, and swirl bokeh lenses really offer anything that modern does not - assuming you can afford modern lenses.

But don't you see the 3D nose???

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>>2842458

why are you shit talking sugar, your dumb autist piece of crap.

his output is shit, but yours is nonexistent, you are a sack of shit that barely qualifies as a mediocre camera tester. fuck you and your 5 snapshits you repost all the time.
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>>2842463
Sure thing, bae.
>Rikenon 50/1.7
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>>2842483
>my 8th image post in this thread, btw
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>>2842463
>>2842484
>of about 34 that I could find quickly skimming the threads I remember posting in, incl. one post by someone else in the pics I've saved from /p/ thread
stay jelly, sugar.

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>>2842463
Shhh, Sugar, it's ok.
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>>2842496
>>2842489

>implying that was me

>>2842489

>tells me to be jelly
>of a $5 rikenon 50mm he probably found in a thrift store
>mfw

riveting tale chap

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>>2842505
pls don't let this be the nude model
>her sexy beach nudes leaked months ago anyway, pic related

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>>2841122
On apsc sensors you can still fiddle with the old 85mms you can find around, it will be more or less comparable to a 135mm, but on m4/3 they start to really be a bit too long (even if I like to fiddle with the 180mm 2.8 AF, I recognize it is not the most versatile lens, even if just for portraits...)
So I don't really have an answer: I can just say that if it was me and there weren't reasonable priced lenses for my needs, whether in its own lens lineup or 3rd party, I would just change system.
Maybe picrelated it's what would fit better in your case.
The smaller the sensor the harder it is to find gems for cheap in vintage lenses, unless you're searching for supertelephoto eq lenses (300mm f/4s =600mm without teleconverter hnnng).
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>>2842528
>vintage 300/4
enjoy your chromatic aberration
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>>2842531
Yeah if you goo too vintage superteles were crap wide open, but the ones with low dispersion elements were ok, like the 300mm f/4.5 ED version (easily distinguishable by the fatter front lens element)
300mm f/4 af was good.
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I have an SMC Pentax-M 135mm f/3.5 lens that I'd like to use on my ME Super, but it's got quite a bit of fungus on it, so I don't dare to use it before it's been cleaned in fear of the fungus spreading.
Is the lens good enough to make it worth cleaning it, or should I just give it up?
It's been in my windowsill for a few weeks, but it looks like the sun hasn't gotten much of the fungus, so if probably have to open it up to clean it.
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>>2842528
buy a zhong yi lens turbo ii.
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>>2842799
it's ok.
the real money is in the 2.8.
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>>2842799

You can clean it by yourself.
Not very complicated. You just need to be focused on what you're doing.
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>>2842805
>>2842811
Cool beans, I'll give it a try.
I didn't pay anything for it, so I won't be too sad if I destroy it in the process.
Not sure if I would ever use it as I'm not that comfortable using anything longer than 50mm equivalent, but it could be fun to have the option.
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>>2842819
I took it apart and cleaned it to be as good as new, it was surprisingly easy.

While I'm first posting in the thread, what are the opinion on the MC Hanimex 28mm f/2.8?
I really enjoy using the lens, but it seems soft as fuck. As some know I usually don't care too much about IQ, but it's a bit soft even for my tastes. I don't have access to a decent 35mm scanner again for a few months, so I don't know if it's the scans or the lens that's the cause of my issues.

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>>2842844
Sounds like a pretty junky lense, but the sample you posted isn't really *that* soft, it's just out of focus.
Try stopping down if you want it to get sharper...
>>2842799
Also, funnilly enough I found one of these the other day for $6, and it also has fungus, however I have no plans to do anything about it.
Haven't dev'd any pics from it yet, but every 135 I've tested has been very sharp, don't expect much different from this.
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>>2842799
There are fungi spores in every breath of air you take.
Using this lens is not harmful. Just put it in the oven at 50 C for some time or under strong uv light to kill the fungus
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>>2842460
No composition but luxuriously beautiful color.

Clean your film before scanning.
Or if you're trying this hard to emulate film kill yourself.
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What's /p/ favorite vintage lens on a DSLR and why ?
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>>2843037
I liked my Helios for a while for the swirly bokeh, but it was drawing attention away from my subjects, so I dumped it.

Now I don't use any. The only benefit is the price, but for me, the lack of features (AF, modern coatings, and on the low end, wide apertures) means I reach for a modern lens every time.
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>>2843046
>, but it was drawing attention away from my subjects,

How so ?
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>>2843056
My viewers kept saying "Oh cool look how the background looks!! How did you do that!!!" rather than looking at what I was actually taking photos of. When you put your time into wardrobe, makeup, hair, location, posing, lighting, coaching expressions, and spend an hour per photo in processing with toning, color work, and skin processing, having all of it ignored for "OMG the bokeh!!" is really obnoxious. So, along the thought that a photographer should do what he can to remove distractions, I removed the Helios from my kit.
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>>2843059

I've got your point anon.
But still, I think get rid of it is a bit drastic.
What if you feel the use it again, in the future ?
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>>2843059

>spent huge amount of effort and didn't get the validation from randos so he raged at the lens

I bet you are the type of guy who refreshes the browser waiting for somebody to reply to you all night before crying to bed in the morning
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>>2843091
nice projection
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>>2843067
I didn't like, throw it away in a rage. I just sold it to a friend. If I need it again in the future, I'll borrow it back, or buy another one. No big deal. They're cheap.

>>2843094
Don't bother.
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>>2843094

>implying

im not the guy who threw a lens away because it was taking all the attention away from you.

I mean, you are literally jealous of a russian made lens from the 60s
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>>2843108
Not him, friend.
His lens didn't work for him the way he wanted it to, so he sold it, what's the big deal?
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>>2843037
thx 4 the upstage, m8.
>i still like my lighting setup better
How are the other Canon f/1.2's?
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M42 screw mount?
I don't have a lot of money, and was thinking of getting a m42 adapter for my Micro 4/3 camera and buying some glass (old but around £30 - £90)
is this worth doing or am i wasting my time?

Someone pls teach me do's and don'ts with Vintage lenses
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>>2842999
Kek.
This is trash film, Agfa Ultra 50, which I shot at 25.
If you'd ever actually scanned film yourself you'd know that this is actually pretty clean, I just didn't bother doing any healing because the shot is so boring, but it was my first roll with the 85L, so I was mainly seeing how it went. Pretty much the only shot from this roll I use regularly is pic related; as it's got 2 things that make /p/ super jelly.

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>>2843305
Adapting almost all 35mm glass to m43 is a waste of time.
Anything wide enough to actually be useful is still going to be hard to find and expensive, and even then the IQ is likely going to be nowhere near that of an actual M43 lense, but you'll also have to fuck around with manually stopping down to take shots and manually focusing.

The real answer is throw that trashcam where it belongs, and buy a camera with a real sensor, or just pony up for native glass (which you will also take a bath on when you inevitably upgrade to a camera with a real sensor).
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>>2843306

nice camera test, my friend.
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>>2843306
I scan my own film too you double nigger.

I take the time to wash it or I scan a few hours after development and drying.

I don't know how to heal, though.
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I've got this thing. I often use it as a macro lens because I don't have a mirrorless/something with a small enough sensor. (Taylor-Hobson Cooke Kinic 1 inch f/1.8 with a Kodacolor filter, in case anyone was wondering.)
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>>2843345

>muh hipster lens
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>>2843354
>hipster lens
>vintage lens thread
no shit
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>>2843356

that lens is hipster even by vintage lens standard
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>>2843357
Here, have a snapshit I took with it today.
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>>2843363

>muh shallow dof

lol
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>>2843305
well >>2843307 was kind of a dick about it. He's right that the problem with m4/3 is that the crop factor turns almost everything into a telephoto. It's worth it to pick up a fast 50 (of which there are many), a 100mm-equivalent lens that's fast enough to squeeze some bokeh out of that sensor is a useful thing for portraits. Where he's wrong though is about stopping down and focusing. That shit's easy, especially on m4/3. You do still have to do it though, so it's not great for fast action, unless you can pre-focus at a given spot and then wait for your subject to cross it.

Every camera way back when came with a fast 50 (or sometimes 55 or 58 or something), usually f/2 to f/1.4, as a kit lens, so there's all sorts of them around. If you want a specific recommendation, get a Pentax SMC-M 50/2.0, and a K-to-m4/3 adapter. This should cost you something like 40 dollary-doos (which is what, 20-30 good-boy points?) You can get some other stuff if you decide you like it and want more.
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>>2843366
Are you retarded? He just said he used it as a macro because of the flange distance not lining up. Obviously the DOF is going to be shallow because its actually close to the lens.
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wich one its the best cheap vintage lens 24mm to become to 36mm adapted to a xpro1?
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>>2843459
For portraits, how about something like a 85mm with a speedbooster? 120mm with very nice light catching ability sounds interesting. Then again it must be in a whole different price point and only 20mm longer from 50mm + adapter.
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>>2843506
the one without the purple cast.
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>>2843507
>whole different price point
yeah, a few hundred dollars more. A decent speedbooster will cost you money, and old 85s, though not terribly expensive, are much more than 50s. You can get an old nifty fifty for the price of a dinner at a casual restaurant. Ebay coughs up prices of $200-250 for both Nikon and Pentax 85/2s, you'll pay about the same for a modern Samyang 85/1.4.

So can you do it? sure, all you need is money. But I wouldn't buy it as your first old lens. Get something cheap first and see if you think "Yeah, I want me some more of that"
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>>2843508
Like this one?
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Who here has Schacht lenses or uses a glorious m42 memetron?

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>>2842805
Nah, the real money is in the 1.8.
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>>2841985
doesn't matter, but fuji has the coolest design and better menus also the more expensive brand
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>>2841985
If you can afford to be full frame, then Sony, so you don't have to deal with crop factor, and can have wide angle lenses. If you're going APS-C, then Fuji.
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>>2843707
>>2843705

I want a fuji but sony first gen NEX is so cheap
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>>2843729
It is cheap, but it is also worse in every way. It may very well be good enough for you, but there's a reason for the price.
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>>2843730
For manual lenses an NEX 5N with an EVF is more than enough. Alternatively the NEX 6 or 7 are also good options.
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>>2843730
what's worse about it besides the super shitty handling of the menu software?
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>>2843830
The menu. The ergonomics. The control layout. The availability of buttons and dials for controlling aspects of the exposure and capture. Image quality in every respect.
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>>2841984
doesnt matter either way cause that photo is trash
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>>2843459
Thank you very much
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>>2843037

Sigma af 20/2,8.
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>>2843851
Sure thing lil buddy!
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Are there any lenses that were made for 35mm that cover 120? I heard that one of Nikon's 28mm lenses covers more, but I don't want to go that wide
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>>2844099
I think some of the faster 85mms have a pretty big image circle, but really you'd need to do your own checking.
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>>2844155
I think I checked once, I unscrewed a Chinon 55mm 1.7 off of an m42 camera and freelensed it in front of my m645, I didn't see any vignetting, how can you tell if it covers the image circle while freelensing?
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>>2844178
Well the main problem with those slr's is that you'll never get a 35mm lense to reach infinity focus, because the mirror box is in the way.
So while you might be able to get coverage over the entire film area, you'll only be able to focus out to a few inches in front of the camera.

Also, what makes your plan additionally retarded is how cheap mamiya and pentax 645 glass is. Just buy the right gear, dumbass.
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>>2844202
>buy $8000 pentacks 645z
>use shitty old glass on it.
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>>2844218
I think you can use them with 6x7 stuff too
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>>2844202
I never said anything about wanting infinity focus, sure it would be a little odd shooting macro with a lens that's equivalent to a 33mm f/1.0 on 645 but the difference in flange distance is only 20mm so it would be well suited for flower shots, and possibly also larger bugs, I don't see why I need to buy a new lens when I already own that f/1.7 lens
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I need some opinions on the best bang for your buck 85mm f/1.8. Around the 200$ and under range.

I found the Konica 85mm f/1.8 for 200$
the Canon FD 85mm f/1.8 is about 50$ less.
The NIKKOR 85mm f/1.8 is around 200$

If anyone has ever used them or know about them, id like some opinions.
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>>2844478
>equivalent to a 33mm f/1.0
pls just get out

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>>2844620
What do you want to do with them?
For mounting on anything digital other than a sony, you'll want the Nikon.
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>>2844652
I know it won't be the same n terms of light transmission, but that would be the kind of lens you would need to achieve the same look on 35mm.

>inb4 you say that it's still 1 55mm lens
>inb4 you completely ignore the difference in FoV when comparing shots from 35mm and MF or you crop down the MF which would be cheating
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>>2844654
It would be a Sony, so mounting isn't a big problem. I already have the Konica mount and ive been liking them so far.
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>>2844861
>Konica AR mount
>it would be a sony
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>not owning a radioactive lens
>not owning the lens that took the world's most iconic portrait

just bought it, ty based angry photographer
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>>2844953
correct, you still don't own the lens that took the world's most iconic portrait.

>Staring up, he was struck by Guevara's expression which he says showed, "absolute implacability," as well as anger and pain. Korda was shooting a Leica M2 loaded with Plus-X film and had a 90mm Leica telephoto lens mounted on it. He managed to take just two frames -- one vertical and one horizontal -- before Che stepped away.
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$7.65 with tax at Goodwill. Now that the weather is finally nice I'm going to try these out on the PEN.
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Olympus OM Zuiko 1.8 50mm is my fave nifty fifty
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>>2845579
i preferd my 50mm F1.8 E Series AI-S Manual Lens
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>>2845579
Mine too, although I've mostly compared it to FSU 50's. I also have the f1.4 version but prefer the f1.8 to be honest, the f1.4 is kind of soft and the colors aren't as nice.
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>>2844620
I have the Konica 85mm f/1.8 and I find it kinda meh. Bokeh's not stellar, but typically Konica (at least in my experience with the 50/1.7 and 40/1.8) so you might like it, sharpness wide open is decent enough, definitely usable.
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>>2845786
Just checked, my 50mm f1.8 is the "made in Japan" version. Figures it's so good.
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>>2841974
>unironically using the Nikon designed for strong womyn who need no control over shutter speed
You got the right lens, but the wrong body ladchapm8*

*That doesn't apply if you're a girl or believe to be one.
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>>2849696
correction niqqa, I unironically use 2 of them >>2848973
If you have control over the aperture and control over the meter speed, then you also have control over the shutter speed.
>and if you also have control of a large, healthy pen0r, you don't need to assert your masculinity with a camera...
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>>2849704
>seriously using not one, but even two of the only only crappy gimped down Nikon SLR to fiddle all the time with the ASA/compensation wheel
That camera was unofficially referred as "the Nikon for women" at Nikon fyi. Enjoy your collection of missed shots and fiddling with wheels even more than with a D3x00, strong tranny who never shot high contrast nor action scenes.

Also,
>50 f/2
:^)
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>>2849717
*correction: im drunk and didn't see the 1.2, which is a crappy lens with obscene coma
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>>2849717
>50 f/2
?
That's an f/1.2. Learn to read.
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>>2849723
>>2849722
Learn to read before posting my strong tranny.
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>>2841114
better than my bentax m 50 1.4
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>>2842102
>poorfags
>uses a shitty 70-200 f/4
I like your mamiya tho
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>>2849778

What's wrong with the 50mm f1.4?
I own the 1.8 and I'm very satisfied.
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pic related on fuji x-pro1,
is this a good combo ?
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>>2852816
It's pretty good if you get it at around 150% of the price of the 1.7 version, but don't pay double. I have the 1.7 and it is great, very good CA control and mid-frequency sharpness wide open but has typical lower contrast. Overall both are stunning for head+shoulders portraits on the X-pro 1.
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Just bought a 'Nemrod' 135mm f/3.5. It has 12 aperture blades.

I have no idea what to expect really but it was just 28 euros
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Got a spare one of these because it was 2 dollars at goodwill and a pack of superia 200

Currently eyeballing a cheap FD 24mm 2.8 to pair with my a-1
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>>2852816
nothing is good on a fuji x-pro1
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>>2854248
>2 dollars
Is it fully functional? That's a great deal fo' sho'.
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>>2854285
Should be. It seems to be in even better condition than the one I paid 40 dollars for a couple years ago too

I've been holding back carrying mine with me lately because I don't want it to get all dinged up but now I don't really have to worry
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>>2854248
>FD 24mm 2.8
ibn gud lense

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Anyone have info on a Milverson Titan 135mm 2.8?
I bought it off Ebay almost a year ago, and can't find any info on it. All I've got is that it was made in Japan, because it's on the lens itself
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>>2857539
I just bought the Titar version of that lense, its an f3.5. Whats the image quality on yours like?
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>>2857938
Here's a comparison of two SOOC jpegs (resized only) using it wide open, top with the lens hood and bottom without. Shooting with any amount of backlighting causes it to flare like a motherfucker.

Sorry for the big file
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>>2858187
I should mention it's at native ISO as well, and seems to have the same swirly BOKEH as the Helios which is pretty neato.


The flaring may not be as bad as I'd thought, it's been a while since I've used it

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>>2858187
>>2858194
Thanks for the info, the flaring doesnt look too bad at all
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>>2860189
No worries. I've been meaning to get out and test the flaring with the sun as the light source, but it's been overcast and foggy for the past few days. Hopefully soon
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>>2841114
>vintage thread
>anon posts the lens that came standard with my first camera

feels weird man
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Is the Pentax-M 135mm f3.5 worth buying for $50 dollary-doos?

If not please recommend other good 135mm's around the $50 range
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>>2862290
That pentacon 135mm 2.8 is pretty amazing especially if its that 15 bladed one
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>>2862296
The 6 blade version is a piece of shit apparently. I'd go for the 15 blade version but that's out of my budget. Cheers for the suggestion anyway
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>>2862290
I bought mine for $6. I'd say that's about right.
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>>2862344
How do you like the lens? Any good wide open, or only when it's stopped down?
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>>2862354
Almost all vintage 135 lenses are just fine.
Pic related was taken with a Tamron Twin-Tele, with its teleconverter attached, on the max extension of my Novoflex bellows.
I've only shot a couple of portraits with my Pentacks 135, but only noob morons post people on 4chan.
The only problem you'll find with these lenses is flaring, or low contrast, or purple fringing, or mechanical defects. Sharpness is always great, especially when stopped down.

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>>2862372
Alright thanks anon, I think I'll go ahead and buy it
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>>2862290
Just bought it a couple days ago. 30euros.

Lens is quite amazing, bokeh is good, but It's sometimes hard to sharp focus with a DSLR.
However it's is very easy on my ME.

Pic related.

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>>2862290

Its pretty good, even on a shitty crop sensor.

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>>2862385
>>2862401
Nice. Cheers fellas, I'm keen on getting mine now
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http://pentaxdslr.eu/Forums/viewtopic/p=10212/

I bought this one for a very small amount of money today only to find out it doesn't fit on any of my cameras because I'm an idiot.

For how much would I be able to sell it? Forums and such seem to say it's worth about €40.
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>>2862469

It depends on the lens' condition sempai.
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>>2863271
It's practically mint from the looks of it.
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>>2842527
have some fucking class
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How does the CZ Jena 35/2.4 measure up by modern day standards ie against the Sigma 35/2 or even the modern Zeiss Milvus 35/2? Sharpness and build aside, are there any qualitative differences (colours, bokeh?)
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I'm extremely new to photography. I found this old lens the other day (not my photo) but I have nothing it will fit on. Should I sell it or get some kind of adapter or what?
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>>2865863
Get a DKL adapter to whatever mount you use and have a good time
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Just bought an old Pentax-M 50mm F1.7 on a lark for my new k-3 ii. Did I do good?
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>>2865934
I use a Nikon. Is there anything in particular I should look for in an adapter? There seems to be a big price difference between them, and I don't want to buy the cheapest one if it's gonna be a piece of shit.
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>>2865935
You did bloody excellent m8, real great lens
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>>2865935

Great lens. I use it on my MX, and the bokeh is great. Aperture ring is nice and feel like you actually do something.

Pic related, not wide open maybe f/2

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>>2865935
>>2866315

On APS-C the DoF is longer, but still ok.

Pic related, shot wide open.
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>>2866317

Forgot pic

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>>2865935
I have that lens on my K-30, and I love it.
Pic related shot at f2.8

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>Canon FL 135mm F2.5
Anyone got it? How's the IQ/sharpness/bokeh on this one?
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i love it, the bokeh is so cummer

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massive but good quality toan 30 old "bad" lens

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