I crashed a Rainbow Gathering with some friends after rumors of hippies in the trees started showing up on social media.
I'll start this thread with the most non-descript photo of the day. :^)
We figured we'd bring along barter supplies, a good decision. After an hour or two of riding backroads and almost giving up on finding them, we spotted a tent, and then a painted school bus...and we were home.
Rainbow Gatherings, to those that don't know, are very loose temporary communities found worldwide, associated with the 60s counter culture. These days, just as many are from crustpunk or similar backgrounds as would call themselves "hippies" outright, but what they have in common are rather anarchistic, humanistic values.
Some of them, however, actually are old hippies. Some Elders have been living this way for decades.
Upon arriving "home", I was immediately greeted by a blonde Rainbowchild who immediately wanted to know if I would please take his photograph.
So I happily obliged.
He then wanted to return the favor by taking my photo, very naturally, given the nature of the community he's grown up in. Not even a pause, that's just how it "works", you know?
Unfortunately the little dude doesn't know much about perspective distortion, so now y'all get a hilariously bad photo of yours truly.
My arms are in the photo because I was helping him hold the camera, btw. 2heavy.
A very happy guy who was coming down from an acid trip took it upon himself to show us around the campsite, spread up and down a few miles of trails. While on our way to the Circle, we came upon a pretty large rattlesnake in the road.
Homie proceeded to catch the snake by the head.
>>2819347
He wanted a photo holding the snake to prove it, completely blew his mind with an instax print.
He was so excited.
>>2819348
...then the snake was decapitated and taken to the top of one of the koolbuses to skin and deep fry, the head buried in the woods to prevents kids or animals from stumbling on it.
The skin and rattle became barter items.
>>2819348
if you're in his hand, who took the photo?
>>2819350
:^)
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we returned to the main encampment just in time to catch an episode of The People's Kitchen
I was quickly welcomed home
This bus is the main kitchen for the encampment. Most of the smaller campsites pitch in their part too, but this is where the big, bubbly cauldron resides.
The resident cooks excitedly showed us around, pointing out mementos and keepsakes from their travels
>>2819350
lol
>>2819346
isi you're awesome and all but damn you look like a feminine robin lord taylor
nice photos though, I like em all, this set is awesome.
>>2819361
>isi you're awesome and all but damn you look like a feminine robin lord taylor
pls don't dox me, this season of Gotham has been hard enough :(((
I wish I'd noticed the specificity of the graffiti on the ceiling more before post. C'est la vie.
Pink Floyd was a given, of course.
>>2819364
doge was very chill
>>2819342
that monocle fuckign 10/10
Delivering the cauldron to the main circle. It was great to see people feeding each other so happily.
>>2819361
fark omi good eye
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ncie photos isi, first time
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I regret not getting a better photo of this mighty, tribal celt. He came running past playing with his girlfriend(?)s dog.
He was actually wearing woad paint dots on his face, lol.
>>2819339
Sorry if I "spoil" this thread, but Hippies are the most out of touch, retarded, ignorant people on the earth. Trust me I used to hang out with them.
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>>2819345
That child has something wrong with his face, The lack of parental care is to be expected from hippies but those scars are going to be there for his whole life (IE: after he comes to his senses and leaves such a poisonous environment)
>>2819347
Why is the largest body in the photo NOT THE SUBJECT? Was the kid still shooting these?
>>2819348
You could've gotten closer, or taken it after the snake was killed if you were really that scared.
>>2819349
Again why so far away? What were you going for?
>>2819351
I would say this makes no sense, but it was made by hippies so that is to be expected.
>>2819347
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>>2819360
Why do you let so many shots stay off center? Are you trying to portray the unbalanced mental state of a hippie?
As for the rest, what have you shown us about the people? Where is a close personal shot of these dumbasses? Stuff like this >>2819363 Is just plain shit. Interesting angle showing us absolutely nothing about these people, instead it's the equivalent of photoshopping a poem on top of an image, shit.
>>2819372
>Sorry if I "spoil" this thread, but Hippies are the most out of touch, retarded, ignorant people on the earth. Trust me I used to hang out with them.
I don't care about your life story, kid.
>>2819372
>Sorry if I "spoil" this thread, but Hippies are the most out of touch, retarded, ignorant people on the earth. Trust me I used to hang out with them.
damn, that's harsh and subjective, and really pointless.
It's rare to see a photo reportage on /p/, especially such a good one, thank you.
>>2819373
>I don't care about your life story, kid.
I wish you cared about taking good pictures, you are literally the worst trip on this board behind Megapickels. You have no idea how to compose or frame a shot and try to sell yourself on "candids" of absolutely nothing.
>>2819372
>Why do you let so many shots stay off center? Are you trying to portray the unbalanced mental state of a hippie?
If you're familiar with my photos at all, you should know there's a pretty clear delineation between my formal and informal styles.
So yes, in a less caustically worded sense. :^)
>That child has something wrong with his face, The lack of parental care is to be expected from hippies but those scars are going to be there for his whole life (IE: after he comes to his senses and leaves such a poisonous environment)
You're a bad person, anon.
>Why is the largest body in the photo NOT THE SUBJECT? Was the kid still shooting these?
Because I was no on acid, and am southern enough to stay back from rattlesnakes that people are pissing off.
>You could've gotten closer, or taken it after the snake was killed if you were really that scared.
>after the snake was killed
a headless snake is a lot less powerful than a snake glaring at you. I suppose you can't make out much detail with the lazy resizes, though.
Nothing here was planned, little of it was asked for. I was shooting as I experienced.
>Again why so far away? What were you going for?
Because they were on top of a bus, the ladder was on the ground, and I had a prime lens on the camera.
>I would say this makes no sense, but it was made by hippies so that is to be expected.
I'm pretty sure that was actually the sign for the one SJW-y camp that was there, the owner of which disliked the killing of the snake, to the collective eyeroll of everyone that was actually from the country or south.
No intelligent person weeps a rattlesnake in April. Especially not one so deliciously fried.
> Stuff like this >>2819363 (You) Is just plain shit.
There's some badly framed irony that totally skipped past your visual illiteracy :^)
>>2819376
Except, again, any familiarity with my work would inform you that's not the case.
I do enjoy a candid aesthetic. Too much of my work is decidedly technical for this idea that I "sell myself" on candids, though. I mean, literally...the little money I make from this, comes from the more technical landscapes. :3
I think this is the last one for tonight, but I'll hopefully be heading back out tomorrow or Wednesday. Hopefully I'll get more one on one opportunities, now that I've handed out enough instant prints to them to get some intrigue.
This guy put his hair up and asked for a shot just before we left for the evening.
Most of these will probably be 'finished' in B&W, btw. Between lens bloom, shifting light (southern forests are not particularly photogenic), and an excess of texture on most of the colorful surfaces anyway, I feel okay doing so...hopefully I'll get a chance to visit them at night to round out some more color.
mfw delicious isi thread
Good thread isi, but you should have stashed that snake head somewhere where you can find it again. The skull would be a nice souvenir once the ants and the elements have picked the bones clean.
>>2819378 reminds me of a pineapple
These are distant and egocentric, lacking any sense of empathy or even a sincere interest. It all falls flat, an apparent attempt to parrot other artists' work down to the way you are choosing subject matter and the woefully obvious pretense of modesty in your captions.
On the positive side you at least think about interesting angles and framing, go out and shoot, and aren't too shy with a camera in your hands (though not exactly gregarious either).
>>2819381
I can pretty easily get another, we kill dozens of snakes in our yard every year. Sister has chickens, lol.
They actually buried it under a marker (two sticks in an X) so they could go back for it later once the venom was no longer potent. Another barter item in the making, haha.
>reminds me of a pineapple
that's the third time I've heard that phrased in exactly that way so far
>>2819382
On the positive side, you've got the *tone* of academia right.
Even less substance, tho.
I dont feel any of these really communicate what was there,what was happening, who these people are or why they are here, without the text it looks like you and some friends went and dicked about in the forest.
The processing doesn't help either, everything feels very flat and unengaging, with some dodgy colours all over the place.
I know you're going to say "but thats my style", but your candids are awful, they aren't showing nearly enough interaction, its more like you've gone to take a photo of someone, theyve noticed and you get these awkward half poses which completely strip any personality from your photos.
Also, get closer, to everything, so snapshitty.
>>2819346
And are you sure thats not a massive under bite, your chin is almost touching the lens. And you have no "thats how i smile with my teeth together" excuse this time.
>>2819386
>And are you sure thats not a massive under bite, your chin is almost touching the lens.
>Doesn't know what perspective distortion is
>tries to provide art-school style narrative C&C
lol
>And you have no "thats how i smile with my teeth together" excuse this time.
That would be laughter, not a smile. That's why I've got a twitchy eye. ;)
Since you're fascinated with my teeth, though...my upper row of teeth completely covers my bottom row in the resting position. This is called a prominent overbite.
The angularity of my chin-to-jawline appears to confuse you greatly. Study photos of my alter ego Robin Lord Taylor more closely and you'll maybe finally crack it. :D
>>2819386
>without the text it looks like you and some friends went and dicked about in the forest.
Literally in the OP,
>I crashed a Rainbow Gathering with some friends after rumors of hippies in the trees started showing up on social media.
That's a given context, not biting critique.
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>>2819377
isi, if you keep ignoring all negative feedback you are only hurting yourself. I assume you are the one samefagging as an anon defending yourself, and I have to say that is just pathetic. You need to actually think about your shot and engage with your subject before you take it. Also, why do you think these only work in b/w? Aren't hippies bright and colorful people? Is it because you lack confidence and think b/w will make the photos more "artistic"?
>>2819393
[02:33] <+manav> and I'm now traumatized (not literally) since yuo caught me ffs lesson learnt
That was actually just omi early on, and I called him out on it.
You are, however, currently samefagging...we've been at 7 posters for a few posts now.
It's not a matter of ignoring feedback. It's a matter of not rewarding shitty delivery. It's a matter of the relevancy of critique from armchairs.
There is no hivemind consensus to be pleased, there is only a hivemind of displeasure. Pleasures are personally held.
>Also, why do you think these only work in b/w?
That's a gross misrepresentation of what I said.
Poor thing. :)
>>2819393
41 posts.
24 images.
27 posts by isi with her name.
14 posts to be accounted for between 7 people sounds more like you're the one samefagging with >>2819393
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>>2819372
taking into account the positive posts which most likely do not share IPs with the long, pretentiously worded ones.
I see your game, anonymous.
>>2819401
>still 7 posts
Samefags strike from all angles!
>>2819402
You are the worst trip on this board. easily
>>2819402
Make that 9.
I don't know if the hippies would be too happy about it, but some of these pictures could use a flash. The light is awful and combined with the underexposure that makes for some muddy colors and indiscernible details. Worse in color than in b/w, but still.
Stuff like >>2819355 or >>2819373. The light and exposure doesn't make them look candid but vernacular. And not in a good way. Even if the composition says otherwise.
Aside from that, I enjoyed the series. I don't know if that's what you're going for but it seems to be more about your subjective experience than actually documenting the camp. That's cool. But some commentators seem to have missed that.
>>2819403
>What focal length was this taken at?
16mm on APS-C, 24mm equivalent
but given how much distortion this lens has (this is the cheapest fuji kit lens), and how much I *did not* correct it in any of these, the field of view is definitely a bit wider than your average 24mm FOV
>have any more of that rad rainbow bus?
I'll try to get some detail shots of their buses and stuff if I get back out there. There is a color version of >>2819377 though.
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>>2819407
>16mm on APS-C, 24mm equivalent
but given how much distortion this lens has (this is the cheapest fuji kit lens), and how much I *did not* correct it in any of these, the field of view is definitely a bit wider than your average 24mm FOV
I see, thank you. I was thinking it was closer to 21mm and thats why I had to ask because it was tripping me out
>>2819406
>I don't know if the hippies would be too happy about it, but some of these pictures could use a flash
They wouldn't be happy about it.
This is a community that is accustomed to being viewed by media as vagrants, criminals, and drug addicts. They're pretty suspicious of photos in general. They didn't really warm up to me doing it until I started exchanging instax prints with them.
Otherwise yeah, I agree. I'd prefer to use a flash. Already know that's not cool to everyone there, though, and I don't want to intrude much.
The light is awful, undoubtedly, as it usually is in most forests. Not a whole lot to be done about that without a tripod. Technicality is so far beyond the point of these, anyway.
>The light and exposure doesn't make them look candid but vernacular.
You're overlapping artistic language into what is more of a journalistic venture. You cannot expect control over these variables when you're literally chasing rumors through the forest. :P
>Aside from that, I enjoyed the series. I don't know if that's what you're going for but it seems to be more about your subjective experience than actually documenting the camp. That's cool. But some commentators seem to have missed that.
Absolutely. There's not a whole lot to 'document' that isn't summed up in the phrase "travelling anarchic hippie commune."
I'll hopefully get more one on one time with individuals when I go back. This was very much an icebreaker sort of shoot.
We weren't invited. We showed up randomly, being local alabamians that know our way around the woods and backroads. It's pretty important not to step too far out of line too early with that kinda interaction.
A wonderful opportunity wasted with garbage pictures.
>>2819418
>A wonderful opportunity wasted
What? These things aren't rare, anon. You just have to actually leave your house looking for them.
Rainbow Gatherings are an international affair. There is one near you, right now, at this very second. One of their favorite holidays is tomorrow.
Go outshoot me, you dogged professional.
omg, can anyone on this board actually critique or is it all just overpseudointellectualized art student psychobabble and buzzwords?
These photos are egotistical? They're distant? They're vernacular...and not in a good way?
Do we have any other vocabulary words from the week? Or is this just the crafty new way of shitposting negative opinions without actually suggesting resolution?
>>2819421
http://www.dailycal.org/2016/04/04/dont-over-intellectualize-this/
>>2819422
>Do you know the story on the kids face? I'm guessing not though, it'd probably be a bit rude to ask, especially it was in front of his mother.
Yeah, I didn't ask. It's hard to tell whose kid is whose anyway, they're very collective-minded. They're old scars, I assume they're scars from a dog attack...but having my own upper lip fucked up by a dog around his age might mean I'm projecting here.
He seemed like a very happy kid regardless. A certain open love for outright strangers that you only really find around these kinda folks.
>>2819397
I DID IT FOR YOUR OWN GOOD
FUCK NEVER DOING IT AGAIN
>>2819421
>Do we have any other vocabulary words from the week?
Actually, it would do this board a lot of good if more people had the faintest idea of what they were talking about in artistic analysis and criticism instead of masturbating over technicalities and giving shitty advice on gear that no one needs save for the most inexperienced beginners.
How about you just go back to discussing shitty bird snapshits in the RPT if you're not happy with the vocabulary?
ITT: isi tries to pass off her impoverished, redneck family reunion as a Rainbow Gathering
>>2819433
I can see my criticism of your inability to deliver succinct and direct advice hit home
>the board would be better if more people spent time flexing verbose and demonstrating to each other that they've endured art lectures before and less time critiquing photos on an individualistic basis
>there are individuals who unironically think the OP of this thread is the biggest problem on this board
Good thread isi :^)
>>2819436
Are you one of those people that goes through museums thinking "I could have done that! Modern art is trash!"?
>I can see my criticism of your inability to deliver succinct and direct advice hit home
>isi actually needs my "advice" on anything
>your "advice" is actually helpful to aryone that doesn't view photography as a project consisting of accumulating knowledge about optics and sensor technology
>>2819445
>Are you one of those people that goes through museums thinking "I could have done that! Modern art is trash!"?
Yes, because I could have, and it is. So is most contemporary art. Just because it's the norm to appreciate a thing, or pretend to, doesn't mean it won't be a historical fallacy. Not to invoke Godwin's Law or anything, but...there's a certain example.
>rip on technicalities
Ughh you're a gearfag, you're opinion is moot
>rip on composition and processing
Ughhh do you not understand my 'style', you're opinion is moot
>rip on content
Ughhhhhhh you just dont get it, why dont you do better and show the board
>rip on all of the above
Ughhhhhhhhhhh you are just a butthurt isi hater
Every isi thread ever.
Well that, and shit photos.
>>2819451
Lol, step back from the keyboard kiddo.
>>2819452
>doesn't use a name
WHY WON'T YOU TAKE ME SERIOUSLY???
>doesn't post constructively
I DON'T HAVE TOOOO
>doesn't talk about photos
BUT ISI IS A CUNTTTTTTT
>hate myself inside, probably kill myself this year if Im being serious
Yes, I'm Anonymous.
>>2819451
Thanks for the confirmation that everyone can now safely discard your opinion.
>>2819455
Thanks for the confirmation that you like to "discard" of opinions that conflict with the intellectual and artistic understanding you see yourself as representing.
>>2819456
Lol, you're a faggot child, guaranteed.
I don't care much for the photos but I appreciate you going out and taking them and sharing them with us.
>>2819463
They were both me, the post linked in the 2nd comment wasn't up until i posted my first comment.
Stay frosty, kiddo.
>>2819456
No conflict. You just made it evident that you know a lot less than you think you do. Whatever you say or claim doesn't hold a lot of merit and can therefor be easily discarded, especially if you're not even making an actual point but just claiming to have some form of superiority in a condescending manner.
>>2819465
You left out that the two posts linked to in your first post are also your posts.
Stay flaming, faggot.
>>2819466
>You just made it evident that you know a lot less than you think you do. Whatever you say or claim doesn't hold a lot of merit and can therefor be easily discarded, especially if you're not even making an actual point but just claiming to have some form of superiority in a condescending manner.
Are...aren't you doing that right now, also?
I mean, if you're not doing that, what are you doing?
>>2819470
>I mean, if you're not doing that, what are you doing?
Stating things that are pretty hard to see inside of an anti-intellectual gearfag bubble.
What you're claiming is going to get you some acceptance in some /p/ threads or among your peers but everyone else will just shake their head and move on.
Give what I said some thought. If you're lucky you might realize at some point why you're "wrong".
Or take the MoMA course that's on Coursera right now if you're interested.
https://www.coursera.org/learn/photography/?source=phoenixCdp2016AbTest
>>2819479
I've come to realize isi actually is above most of the criticism that comes from /p/.
she demonstrates the ability to be competent in basically every situation that /p/ posters try and fail at individually.
She's no classic master, but there's at least something respectable about someone that can actually get out there and take more than one kind of photo.
>>2819480
>MoMA
It's cute how people new to the art world always hold MoMA in such esteem.
MoMA is the Art Institutes of (Your City Here) of gallery display. MoMA actively contributes to the anti-intellectualization you mention through efforts to condense the arts into rhetoric.
motherfucking hippies
>>2819349
Managed to fix the sky in this enough-ish for color.
I hope no one finds the dynamic range triggering.
>>2819343
Made the sunlight a little less radioactive.
>isi thread devolves into clusterfuck of people arguing with each other and themselves
classic
>>2819345
Truly fascinating photo.
This is how children looked 10,000 years ago.
This is easily one of the most interesting threads I've seen all year. I had no idea people like this even existed in the Football State.
>>2819367
is he wearing oj's murder gloves?
>>2819570
In perfectly fitting fashion, they're actually gloves tossed to him by one of the elders, not his. They're placeholder potholders, that soup was just off the fire. Otherwise they'd have probably carried it instead of pulling it a mile downhill on a wagon lol.
That guy though had a very fashionable monocle, a DIY conversion from a regular pair of glasses. Visible in the second photo in the thread!
>>2819372
>Why is the largest body in the photo NOT THE SUBJECT? Was the kid still shooting these?
Focus on the boring back, rather than the face attached to the guy doing something interesting, merely because it's bigger!
How many stops over-exposed are these?
>>2819405
I got my phone and turned off wi-fi: The post
>>2819451
>The only thing that makes art good is when it's hard to do. I only respect technical skill, rather than a presentation of ideas. Every song is shit because they all contain words I already knew.
-Translated by Bing!
>>2819360
this is great
>>2819425
>He seemed like a very happy kid regardless. A certain open love for outright strangers that you only really find around these kinda folks.
Reminded me of a kid I met once.
The morning after a "happening" I was in an open house type of place. All the other grown ups were still asleep, kids playing. Older kid (8ish) comes over. "Hello, can I have a pound to buy some cereal for breakfast please? Everyone else is asleep". Gave him a quid. He reappeared a few minutes later and started dishing out cocopops to all the younger kids.
Mundane story but the kids where I live would have bought sweets for themselves never to be seen again.
>>2819598
Experienced some similar kid-adulting too, there was a funny little quote where some of the kids came back towards the main camp from where they had been playing, and one of the older kids (also around 8 or so probably) jokingly belted out "does anybody know whose kid this is?!" walking back with a small toddler holding his hand.
He knew, of course, and everyone knew he knew, so the whole circle started laughing, they were trying to entertain their guests (us)
>>2819590
I disagree, I was nodding in agreement to that post, sums up nicely the massive distance between being somewhere and being involved with something.
You're just buttmad because you've just about exhausted every excuse for people telling you your photos are bad, has anyone ever complimented your processing? and how many people have told you over and over again your colours look rank and your photos look flat.
>>2819609
Except it doesn't come close to explaining why those things are being said. She's on the bus with the people. They're directly posing for her specifically. She's talking to the people. She's literally holding the camera in the shot of herself. She's very obviously involved. So how about you go into some detail about why you feel the (shitty) way that you feel?
Are you suggesting that she become a hippy and spend a month becoming one of them?
>>2819609
>has anyone ever complimented your processing?
Every single landscape thread :^)
>The OP image has some decent colors but there's nothing there if you try to look deeper.
>Either way, I like the colors, and the scene, but the very dim area in the bottom right makes it feel very off balance to me. Nicely done though. is it really that dim down there in the south that you could catch that?
Fuckin hippies
but nice bread
Bump for photo thread not a gear thread
>>2819546
kek
Finally a thread with images that tell a story.
Very good. Well done, isi.
>>2819346
>I was helping him hold the camera
Is that why you're the only thing out of focus?
>>2819373
>kid
pls dominate me, isi
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>>2819733
That probably made more sense in your head.
Look at all these stinky fucking white people.
These are nice photos but do you have any of the trinkets? Or maybe someone holding a trinket and talking about where they got it, maybe smiling? That would make for a nice photo.
>>2819759
the snake sort of underwent the process of becoming several trinkets, it seemed like
the snake guy was so excited to get a print because he didnt think people would believe how big of one he caught that way, so in a way I suppose I gave him one, too.
Otherwise, I didn't really see too much obvious imagery to shoot regarding the crystals and stuff, people were mostly busy cooking and doing other tasks, so whats there is mostly just what you spot people wearing.
I wouldn't be opposed to shooting them though or anything, they just didn't really come up much. I don't really want to interrogate people so much as hang out with them, so what they show me is up to them.
>>2819761
asking questions isnt weird to these people so i cant imagine why you wouldnt ask them to show you their stuff. they know youre an outsider and can understand curiosity. I'm kinda disappointed because you could have done more, but these photos are nice.
>>2819386
>you have no "thats how i smile with my teeth together" excuse this time
How far do you have your head up her ass to seek out every post she makes and evaluate them?
who is isis?
these photos are trash btw
>>2819765
>asking questions isnt weird to these people
except the ones to whom it is, for whatever reason.
Hard to account for them in online generalizations, though.
It's refreshing to see a genuinely interesting subject, but I'm underwhelmed by most of the photos. I mean, the kitchen bus in particular, that is a pretty great setting for a portrait -- or some kind of shot that sheds further light on how these people live. You've got one of the guy hauling off the cauldron, but none with anybody gathered around?
It's just a bit off. I'm sure it's a pretty weird environment and I'm not sure I'd do any better myself, but I feel that taking advantage of these opportunities comes down to getting close to people and getting the kinds of images that reveal much more than what these do. Because aside from the lyrical scrawlings and painted buses these people could just be camping.
>>2819798
>You've got one of the guy hauling off the cauldron, but none with anybody gathered around?
Someone actively asked me not to take photos at the main circle (drug use and stuff I guess)
>Because aside from the lyrical scrawlings and painted buses these people could just be camping.
I mean, there really isn't much more to it than that. They're not a religion or something, theyre not all from the same walks of life.
I do hope to get more individual shots when I go back. As I said above, this was more of an icebreaker. Gotta build some trust first.
>>2819798
>I mean, the kitchen bus in particular, that is a pretty great setting for a portrait -- or some kind of shot that sheds further light on how these people live.
isn't that what a photo of one of them smoking a doobie while the other stirs a pot of soup exactly that?
I mean, just because they're so exotic looking doesn't mean we have to ship exotic expectations to them, also. What more is there to camping in the woods than just camping in the woods, really?
I was going to comment this morning but you were still posting them at the time.
These are a lot better than some of your other recent work imo. Maybe I prefer the photojournalism aspect.
>>2819362 has the slow shutter speed problem, but it seems like you couldn't have used a flash in that situation.
Keep it up :^)
>>2819524
>isi thread devolved into clusterfuck
>thread had a point and not the worst photos in the world
It was as expected.
I thought isi took landscapes not journalism
Is this a meme/joke?
>>2819773
>these photos are trash btw
You gonna post any of your own photos or just talk shit?
Oh wait I'm still on /p/ aren't I?
shitty exoticism t b q h
go back to your landscapes, they're not more interesting, but at least they are better executed
>>2819916
>These aren't good enough because I said so. I'll state what I interpret them to be, without any explanation for why I think that, or why that would imply a negative judgement, and let you assume I'm an authority, and that my opinion (and therefore my demands about your work) matter.
>>2819849
isi does all sorts
I don't know why so many people hate her, she's nice to me.
>>2819921
they are shit photographs that fail to capture what isi was trying to, the first interesting people she's ever met in real life
>>2819854
sure, heres a photo i developed last week
i feel like if i was put in the same situation that she was i could
come away with better snapshits than whats been posted so far
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>>2819346
HNNNGGG
>>2819947
This is not interesting. It's some bitch on a bus.
At least isi's photos have something happening in them. Much better to look at.
>>2819947
This is nice to look at and leaves you wondering what happened to the girl.
>>2819957
She fell asleep on the bus.
This is not some profound bullshit. It's a shitty snapshit.
>>2819947
Best picture in the thread
>>2819961
You can say the same about the rest of pictures posted ITT
>>2819947
>didn't get up close to take the picture
>just snapshitted it from across the aisle
>didn't even use flash as a fill
wew
>i
>no punctuation
HERE WE GO.
>I feel like if I was put in the same situation that she was, I could come away with better snapshits than what's been posted so far
By doing what? keeping a distance and not interacting with your subject? You're too scared to even get close to someone sleeping and afraid.
Get fucking real, and while you're at it: git gudder.
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>>2819480
That course looks interesting, thanks!
Op you are amazing and don't let some dweeb tell you about photography
Thanks for sharing your passion with us, please go on more adventures and post regulary.
>picture unrelated ǝɯɐbǝɥʇ
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Moopco on suicide watch
>>2819972
No I can't, because I don't encounter buses full of dirty hippies every day.
I do encounter an average bitch asleep on the train every single day
>>2819934
>isi does all sorts
what a noob
photographers are supposed to pick a specialization
isi seems to get a lot of hate on /p/ which is funny seeing most of /p/ doesn't even take photos.
>>2819974
>your photo
reaction.jpg
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>>2820042
>photographers are supposed to pick a specialization
>supposed to
>>2820046
Well, that's actually true
>>2820061
tfw I'll never be action class C sports photographer with an emphasis in long-distance telephoto applications
why even live
>>2819974
yeah i agree i need to get closer but honestly man isi's photos are straight trash
but man harping on punctuation is so fucking lame
anyway, heres another photo from that same night
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>>2820090
>snapshit
>party
>not resized
>harping on punctuation is so fucking lame
It's okay. I didn't realise that you were uneducated.
>>2820095
talk shit post a fit
:^)
>>2820090
Garbage.
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>>2820095
>>2820106
same person?
anyway, sometimes i look up and take shit photos of buildings too!
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>>2820120
Not samefag.
The difference between mine and yours is mine is good, stock photo tier.
>>2820124
wait? yours is stock photo teir?
if by that you mean boring and souless than yes! i agree!
ffs man that post processing is rough
>>2820144
>ffs man that post processing is rough
Nah. Looks good and crispy.
>>2819385
Speaking of substance your photographs are dry bones - meaningless exploitation for internet points. It's just lazy anthropology where even good anthropology is passe.
>>2819401
/p/ should just code posts for the sake of isi's sanity
>>2819590
>Throwing in a superfluous synonym for the sake of using an oxford comma.
>>2820173
>>Throwing in a superfluous synonym for the sake of using an oxford comma.
A good man. Any list should always have at least three items.
Although points off for using a synonym when he could of gone in another direction. That said, to preserve the oxford comma, one must do as one must.
>>2820173
Moopco why are you so angry
>>2820173
>meaningless exploitation
How is she exploiting any of these people? The images look more like they welcomed her presence.
They're hippies not disenfranchised homeless. They're dirty because they like it not because they can't find water.
>>2819339
This is literally the gayest thing I've seen with faggy shooting and absolutely awful commentary.
4chan isn't your personal blog, although being that ugly I'm not surprised you're desperate for attention and validation.
>>2820197
Low quality bait from a clinically depressed young adult.
>>2820197
I'm LMAO'ing @ your life right now
>>2820199
Why are you samefagging your own thread so hard? Why do you defend yourself through personal attacks from other's perfectly valid criticism of your "art"?
Why don't you fund that Holga digital Kickstarter and be cancer on some SJW forum, or reddit or something? You can down boat people who disagree with you
>>2820197
you buttmad you dont know how to interact with humans?
>>2820202
1) I'm not isi
2) keep it in the IRC
isi is literally the worst trip on this entire board, and this thread is further evidence of that.
>>2820197
>so mad you have to shitpost in an isi thread
Take a long hard look at your life anon, this is what it's become.
>>2820120
at least he can fill the frame with the building
All shit.
isi your thing seems to be landscapes. Stick to that, these are atrocious. Your work on the Outer Banks or wherever it was with the beach houses was way better than these and dare I say it some of my better work.
You seem to be going through the same phase I went through early in my photography where I was trying all sorts of different formats trying to find something that stuck and ended up sucking all around.
>>2820262
oh shit
h to the usky husky here ready to commentate on the biggest throwdown of 2016 so far
easy starting off posting photos but sugar coming in heavy on the offensive
lets see how it plays out
>>2820262
>different formats
These are all 3:2 Sugar.
>>2820265
oh shit strong rebuttle from ROOTeasy making a play on words about the aspect ratio
how is sugar going to come back from this one folks
>>2820265
KEK, GOTHEEEEMMM
>>2820124
Mate, yours is garbage, no composition, just a skyrise at a dutch angle with rank, crunchy processing. Snapshits dont get any more "hurrrrrr i jus got ma firs camra"
>>2820178
Moopco does not shitpost at 4am
>>2820188
Just because they welcomed her, doesnt mean it isn't exoticism/exploitation. A homeless, cripple retard could welcome a photo being taken. If you can imagine an upper class woman peering over her specs and saying "oh what curious folk"; you're probably being a dick.
>>2820262
Jokessssss, sugah spitting fiyah.
>>2820265
The word you're looking for is aspect hun.
>>2820265
Yes you shouldnt try new things.
You might enjoy and exceed
HE learned that already.
>>2820301
>If you can imagine an upper class woman peering over her specs and saying "oh what curious folk"; you're probably being a dick.
I guess that would apply to all humanists desu.
You know what else is exploitation? You, breathing. The earth is overpopulated and you're taking more than your fair share of oxygen and resources.
Shit thread
I finally figured out why you use the white frame, isi. You use it because the white frame gives a gallery-like, almost professional feel, and it distracts from how shitty almost all your shots are.
Nice story though. Sounds like an interesting community.
>>2820052
>3.71 MB
>reaction.jpg
keke bugger off
>>2819590
I don't necessarily agree with it because, as I believe, it misses the point of the series. But at least it's a lot better than most of the critique on this board, which can be summed up as technical advice, more often than not from people with way less skill, technical AND artistic, than the photographer. At least this way we can have a discussion about more than just exposure.
>>2819592
I wish I had thought of that response.
>>2819514
>I hope no one finds the dynamic range triggering.
No, but the over-the-top attempt at recovering blown out highlights has left the color pure shit.
>>2820046
>as long as you post photos it doesn't matter if you act like a cunt
>>2820443
Certainly not, but it definitely puts her above the people who act equally cunty but don't post photos.
>>2820302
It's quite difficult to be passive aggressive on the Internet.
Maybe you should try mind games on the people around you.
were you aiming for anything in particular with these photos, isi? Can you contextualise them at all? Maybe I've just missed something skimming the shitposting ITT.
The visceral impression I have is vaguely disappointing. I want some nice or interesting photos to look at. I mean they're sort of interesting in a very superficial way, only because these rainbow gathering folks are somewhat unknown.
>>2819339
These photos are pretty shit.
Did you share them because you just wanted to share some photos you aimlessly pressed a button and captured? or do you actually think they are good?
Perhaps you just wanted to share and get a bit of attention.
>>2820505
>Perhaps you just wanted to share and get a bit of attention.
>tripfag
>woman
No shit.
>>2820503
This desu
I thought this could be nice but the photos are really quite sub-par even for here. What is whit the white border? It just doesn't fit at all.
>>2820574
>the photos are really quite sub-par even for here
What makes you say that?
>the white border? It just doesn't fit at all.
What makes you say that?
Be specific.
>>2820301
>Mate, yours is garbage, no composition, just a skyrise at a dutch angle with rank, crunchy processing. Snapshits dont get any more "hurrrrrr i jus got ma firs camra"
Jellymad
>>2820503
They're clearly supposed to be journalistic
>>2820503
>Can you contextualise them at all?
Isn't that the point of her story alongside the photos?
>>2820301
>The word you're looking for is aspect hun.
Aspect Ratios are often associated with the different camera *formats* that spawned their level of use/reference.
Sugar, being the boards longterm gearfag, was referencing his own various medium shifts.
>>2820503
I was literally taking photos as I wandered around a hippie camp. That's the context. That's an important context.
The goal was to go back today, now that the ice is broken, to round it out with some portraiture with them. Unfortunately that's no longer happening because our pig-ass police are currently raiding their encampment, and I don't have a 4WD vehicle to get out there.
But that is also relevant to what was and was not captured on day one. There are many photos I'd have loved to have taken on day one, but there's a social and legal landscape to worry about with that; as an outsider, I do not want to give off the wrong impression, I do not want to stress them about my presence. And I do recognize that they're in particular danger holding their event here as opposed to many other locations.
It's not happenstance that I blurred out the Tennessee license plate; it's a state north, and we're both states that are pretty police-state. It's a matter of looking out at least a little bit for the subjects.
What kind of shots would you have *wanted* to see? It's easy to idealize exoticity/unknown without realizing that, like most people, most of their day to day activities are not that exciting.
>>2820301
>The word you're looking for is aspect hun.
They mean the same thing Hon
>>2820668
I think your academic justifications are a cop out. They're not great photos. And although I'm not that familiar with your work, you seem to be attempting to use linguistics to validate them which feels a bit pithy and bulshitty. I mean, they're not bad to the extent that they offend me, they just fail to leave any impression at all, even though I've looked hard, and really tried to extract anything resembling power or meaning or aesthetics.
Maybe you'll say that power, meaning and aesthetics aren't what you're going for and I'm a philistine for missing the point, but if that's the way you see it you'd be supporting my point of using bullshit to support mediocrity.
Obviously it's not for me to give specifics of any shots you should have got, only that you seem to have failed to do justice to these guys. They're clearly interesting folks living in an interesting way.
And just basic stuff like skin tones, exposure and the seemingly arbitrary use of black and white.. Idk. It irks me. Ok so you did address the subject once, here >>2819415
> The light is awful, undoubtedly, as it usually is in most forests. Not a whole lot to be done about that without a tripod. Technicality is so far beyond the point of these, anyway.
Firstly I shoot a lot in forests and the light can be great, specially for portraits. But more importantly the "Technicality is so far beyond the point of these, anyway." Is really irritating me. It's a super condescending 2deep4u, and again you're trying to imply there's some artistic merit that trumps the fact that they're uninteresting.
Yall and junk did the whole super shitty looking yet compelling photos thing really well. Photos that left a mark without being at all obviously why.
I really want you to go back and keep trying. Spend some decent time with them.
>>2820668
Important context? I don't see how it is important or relevant if the photos are shit to begin with.
If you weren't on acid and you were clearly trying maybe they'd be better and you'd be in the position to discuss this body of work in the manner you currently are. The level of damage control and excuses/explanation you make are astonishing for the low level of quality for what you are defending.
>>2820700
This.
isi we've had this discussion. The context of the photo means nothing if it's shit. I can take snapshits all day and give them a story they are still worthless snapshits. A picture is worth 1000 words but if you have to explain those 1000 words it's worthless.
The fact that you have some sort of academic justification for this is even worse because now we have to hold you to a higher standard since you have formal education.
Bottom line is you need to find something and stick with it. I'm one of those rare cases where I have two things I'm sort of good at, transportation and landscape. What I was trying to say earlier was that I went through this same phase early on my time on /p/ where I was all over the place with different genres and my work sucked as a result. Any of the oldfags here will tell you, if you can find one, I was trying several different genres and sucking at all of them. I posted a thread detailing my time at Ravine Gardens in Palatka in 2011 and it got absolutely fucking murdered by /p/, at the time I thought they were good, but they were not, and I did the exact same thing you did, went the journalistic approach and explained each one. It still got murdered in a dark alley with gang shit wrote all on the walls and broken bottles in the street.
I took everything I learned from getting roasted there, and went back to the drawing board. A couple years later I returned, now armed with the RB67, Tri-X and some Fuji 160 NS, no digital, and spent a lot of time around the park, studying compositions, studying scenes, seeing how light interacted with the trees, I spent an entire hour studying one section of the park that had a suspension bridge and settled on one photo, which got some decent praise on here.
Find something and stick with it. I loved your beach house work. /p/ loved it too if I remember, those photographs got a lot of positive reviews here.
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>>2820677
isiIDF is in full force!
>>2820503
>cancer trip
What were you aiming for in your awful photography? Pls, keep the trip tho. It makes it easier to filter shit photos from the board :^)
>>2820695
>I mean, they're not bad to the extent that they offend me, they just fail to leave any impression at all, even though I've looked hard, and really tried to extract anything resembling power or meaning or aesthetics.
wew, I'm glad you found what I was wanting to say about your own work too. Thanks m8.
>Obviously it's not for me to give specifics of any shots you should have got, only that you seem to have failed to do justice to these guys. They're clearly interesting folks living in an interesting way.
Just like this shot, huh?
>>2820443
>implying we anons aren't much more cunt-ish
>>2820505
Feel free to drop into any of the other photo threads or RPT and critique all the equally awful photos in the same way.
>>2820717
>I took everything I learned from getting roasted there, and went back to the drawing board. A couple years later I returned, now armed with the RB67, Tri-X and some Fuji 160 NS, no digital, and spent a lot of time around the park, studying compositions, studying scenes, seeing how light interacted with the trees, I spent an entire hour studying one section of the park that had a suspension bridge and settled on one photo, which got some decent praise on here.
-- and you still produce utter trash consistently.
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>>2820723
>>implying we anons aren't much more cunt-ish
We aren't.
You may happily choose to be, but we aren't.
>>2820728
Feel free to pickup a tripcode or name so we can see you're not being a cunt all the time.
>>2820723
put your trip back on poopco
>>2820731
>I'm a horrible person so other people are horrible
I've already got a username over at SA, flickr, 500px, and the like. I'm also comfortable enough in my identity that I'm who I am with or without one.
>>2820695
>Yall and junk did the whole super shitty looking yet compelling photos thing really well. Photos that left a mark without being at all obviously why.
And you're also remembering their work over a longer period of time than 4 hours of shooting with a group of people you just met.
Again, context.
>I think your academic justifications are a cop out. They're not great photos.
I didn't say they're great photos, nor am I so far up my own ass to expect myself to only produce great photos. I am against the notion of "only show your best work."
>Maybe you'll say that power, meaning and aesthetics [...]
Much moreso, I'd say you're missing the point that I'm largely taking the photos that I'm being guided into taking by the people I'm interacting with. There's a reason I keep mentioning the Instax prints and barter.
I only consider 3 of these to be strong shots. I do not consider /p/ a place worthy of heavy curation, though, and would prefer to unwind the entire day's narrative- so I did.
>Firstly I shoot a lot in forests and the light can be great, specially for portraits
Charlie, you're accustomed to very, very different forests and very, very different light than what I was dealing with for these. Have a google-fest over bloom, CA, and pine-needles and similar needle-like foliage. Just because it's a forest doesn't mean the light is diffused equally.
>But more importantly the "Technicality is so far beyond the point of these, anyway." Is really irritating me. It's a super condescending 2deep4u,
No, it's just an admission that I did a lot of quick edits to get these up before bed. Which is basically the norm for my threads on /p/. I go back and do more intensive edits later on on the ones that I think are worth it.
It's no more condescending than your own remarks, if we're being honest. "The fact that they're uninteresting."
Since you're not familiar with my work, though;
jamiewilliams.22slides.com
>>2820717
tl;dr don't care about your gear or moronic beliefs about "sticking to one thing"
Marketing advice for making money in a competitive photo market is not the same as artistic advice, or artistic development.
>>2820757
Why do you even post here, isi?
I mean, I like your work, but everyone here just shits on everyone else. This place is trash.
That's why I don't post work here.
Nobody posts work, they just tell everyone who does post work how garbage it and everything else is.
>>2820766
>I mean, I like your work, but everyone here just shits on everyone else. This place is trash.
She likes perpetuating the shitting on each other process.
all trash
except this one >>2819365 which is pretty easy to achieve
>>2820760
>Marketing advice for making money in a competitive photo market is not the same as artistic advice, or artistic development.
Nobody wants to buy these photos they are shit and that's an insult to fecal matter everywhere.
Get off your high horse.
>>2820780
You're illiterate if you thought I was talking about selling these. Jesus, invest in some books.
I was telling you that the long-heard advice around these parts of "find something you're good at and stick to it" is advice originally passed down towards people trying to make a moneyed career out of it; its about maintaining a cohesive portfolio for appealing to client-based work like agencies.
That's not the kind of photography I do, and holding myself to those ideals is incredibly backwards. The photographs I *do* sell prints of are the afforementioned beachhouses and landscapes.
That said, I did "sell", or rather, "barter" most of the photos in this thread. Rainbow groups are all about fair trade. Instax prints were very popular with them.
>Get off your high horse
I don't have a high horse, I just don't hold sacred stupid ideals. I do not wish to con anyone into thinking every photo I take is a masterpiece.
Why Sugar of all people wishes to approach me with "advice" lately, I've no idea. There's no better example of a directionless individual led astray by the constant barrage of criticisms and cutting remarks met.
>>2820695
>seemingly arbitrary use of black and white..
most of isi's photos are black and white, the arbitrary ones are probably the color ones.
>>2820695
>Yall and junk did the whole super shitty looking yet compelling photos thing really well. Photos that left a mark without being at all obviously why.
oh look a tripfag that prefers his tripfag friends but can't say why
literally just hero worshippers left on this board. where did we go wrong.
>>2819346
LONDON
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isi, your damage control is a waste of time
time to stop posting
>>2820723
do you think anyone doesn't know who you are?
>>2820825
When are you people going to realize you can't scare her away? lol
>>2820846
I don't. I'm not hip on the facebook groups and whatnot. Who is it? Why should I care? Who are you?
>>2820849
God damn, trips are annoying when they trip, but they're so much worse when they don't.
>>2820850
...so, who are you saying it is, exactly? I don't follow.
>>2820854
Fucker. An opening ellipsis is my thing. Get off my swag faggot.
I like them.
I usually prefer your landscape stuff to the people stuff but these are great.
>>2820850
You're uncharacteristically salty. Maybe you should go back to the facebook hugbox.
you guys are mean
>>2819947
DAT Exif...
>Minolta Scan Dual IV
>VSCO
VSCO?????? Wasn't aware they started making scanner drivers lol
>>2819339
oh damn i didnt get to go "home" this year, hope you had fun.
i've thought about bringing my camera but was too afraid someone might think i'm press or something stupid.
Did anyone give you any grief?
I'm really digging all of these shots.
>>2820879
So why do you hang out with them?
>>2820896
they're nice
fuck, both sides nice to me, I'm only a child.
>>2820898
>I'm sad to see that you feel the need to be anonymous here despite the fact you already have internet accounts.
>feel the need
Genius remaining anonymous is more of a sign of not caring, not feeling any needs. You have to feel a need to want to be recognized/establish a persona to adopt a trip. It takes additional effort to change beyond the default state.
It also speaks to the specialsnowflakiness of the individuals who do decide to take this step seeing as it's literally against everything this website is for.
>>2820881
If you scan film and then apply a VSCO filter, does it make it double film?
>>2820923
Maybe it will make my cheap Fujicolor look like Portra. Fuck, why didn't I think of this. I'm never wasting money on Portra again!
>>2820780
>Get off your high horse
>Coming from Sugar
HAHAHAH
>>2821061
I keked 2
>>2820898
>kek, I'm not even isi.
Then prove it
I don't understand what's going on in this thread, or why anyone is trashing these photos, except the inconsistent processing. I am new here however, so maybe there is something I do not get.
I quite like these photos personally as a third year journalism and communications student. They're very intimate without seeming affected by suggestion or direction by the photographer.
>>2821165
A few people hate a tripfag named isi, they circlejerk on the /p/ irc or something. Every isi thread devolves into shitposting.
tldr; it's a bunch of samefags samefagging it up and calling all her photos trash. No-one else gets this same level of hate put onto them, although they probably should.
>>2820582
I take home a grand (gbp) a day doing architecture shots, I'm not that jellymad ;)
>>2820503
Well said
>>2820695
Also very well said
>>2820717
Sugar, you're trying to get isi some humility, it isn't gonna work. But really isi should consider for a moment that all of these are delete in camera snapshits that really dont do the opportunity justice.
>>2820734
Not me hombre, would i white knight isi?
>>2820757
>your wordy replies are a cop out
>*furiously types non existent justification*
Just admit it was a wasted day photographically, it happens.
>>2820760
>Going ad hominem on sugar without any hint of playful bant
Trolled by sugar, its a new low and probably a hint you should put some distance between you and a keyboard for a while.
>>2820806
All of her shots are arbitrary - thats one of her biggest downfalls. So much "ooh neato, click".
>>2821165
Because shes been told literally for years that her processing is trash and she should look into improving, whilst at the same time she drips vile comments all over the board. Then if you rip on her shots she gets ridiculously wordy, angry and in denial. It's pretty fun to see her meltdown every other week.
>>2821178
It was the facebook circlejerk actually. Catsby, iggy, charlie...
So I guess that's why he's too busy to finish the book.
>>2821182
>Just admit it was a wasted day photographically, it happens.
Are you kidding me? Are you listening to yourself?
That shot of the kid with the fucked up face, both of those shots, alone make the day worth it.
It is you that needs to seperate yourself from a keyboard, quite clearly.
>>2821190
Isi plz
Theres nothing remarkable about those shots or his bright pink skin.
>>2821182
>Because shes been told literally for years that her processing is trash and she should look into improving, whilst at the same time she drips vile comments all over the board. Then if you rip on her shots she gets ridiculously wordy, angry and in denial. It's pretty fun to see her meltdown every other week.
By people like you whose main intention is to troll because of your deep-seated insecurities and personal resentments.
anyone with a keen eye at all can tell that isi constantly reapproaches her photos to re-edit them. She's certainly proven she's actually capable of editing to a high standard. That's why some of you keep referring to her landscape work in the first place.
The only person I've ever seen melt down on this board is you, I feel the need to point out. You might not remember it, I believe you were off your meds at the time, but you posted a very long, whiney post entitled "I'M SORRY ISI" where-in you acted like a completely pathetic bitch, before being put down by near every single reply.
I guess it's no short wonder that you're still mad at her after that melt down.
>>2821194
>bright pink skin
you...do know that that's actually what some people look like, right?
You're not serious, are you?
>>2821182
>Just admit it was a wasted day photographically, it happens.
Lmfao. The majority of this threads feedback is actually positive, dude. You might need to check yourself hard if you don't realize it.
>Trolled by sugar, its a new low and probably a hint you should put some distance between you and a keyboard for a while.
Sugar is simply trying to fit in.
The kids at school were wrong about him.
He is a cool boy.
>>2821196
Don't let him get to you isi.
>>2821196
Don't let him get to you isi.
>>2820847
Does she love us that much?
>>2821200
>The majority of this threads feedback is actually positive
Not him, but at best, it's mixed.
There's nothing really aesthetically interesting, only useful for historical documentation.
>00
I also think you should be checking yourself.
>>2821209
>Not him, but at best, it's mixed.
Just like your wife's son
>>2819749
I must have missed something then.
Why is your face not "crisp?"
>>2821210
That was fast.
Did I step on your idol's toes?
>>2821212
Nah, I have no dog in this race. I just can't pass up a good cuck joke.
>>2821213
Okay.
I never understood those that get married before they establish their career.
>The majority of this threads feedback is actually positive, dude. You might need to check yourself hard if you don't realize it.
You mean you have a few nice comments from your irc frendz, and then there's everyone else.
What's next, are you gonna use "daddy says they are really good too" as a counter point.
You're a joke.
>>2821211
Because a 5 year old boy doesn't know how to use back-button focus. Duh.
>>2821222
I didn't put that part together; I thought it was because you were ahead of the minimum focusing distance.
>>2821183
>Catsby
So another shit photographer on top? Wew. Lucky I filtered that faggot long ago :^)
>>2821218
The cringe is starting to reach critical levels in this thread. Why can't you hate on people who take snapshits of birds instead? Or people who take photos of bridges.
>>2821225
Nah, most of these are with the Fuji 16-50 II kit lens, it can focus at 15cm.
