[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
GOD-TIER Bokeh
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /p/ - Photography

Thread replies: 140
Thread images: 42
Number one - trioplan!
>>
Nah. Fuck that hard-edge shit.
>>
>>2814739
Im literally barfing
>>
File: 1433569025302.png (41 KB, 197x204) Image search: [Google]
1433569025302.png
41 KB, 197x204
>>2814739
>>
>>2814739
I don't even know shit about photography and that pic gives me AIDS. Please post some real bokeh..
>>
Someone posted a pic from a high test Leica or Zeiss lens that almost made me piss myself.
I can't find it right now.
>>
File: 15327161921_48cd50fe0e_o.jpg (191 KB, 1280x960) Image search: [Google]
15327161921_48cd50fe0e_o.jpg
191 KB, 1280x960
>>2814785
B-But it's wonderfull!
>>
What is bokeh? Is it those circles?
>>
>>2815440
"bokeh" is the look and quality of the out of focus areas caused by having a thin depth of field as an effect of using a wide aperture, or being very close to your subject.
>>
>>2815445
>quality
Not even once.
>>
>>2815508
what
>>
>1499 Euros

No thank you.
>>
File: b-b-bohkay.jpg (122 KB, 966x653) Image search: [Google]
b-b-bohkay.jpg
122 KB, 966x653
h-hey guise, I made sum bohkay, am I a cool tog now??/
>>
>>2814739
>annoying bubbles
>>
>>2815394
its distracting and a crutch for people who dont know how to compose or light a shot interestingly
>>
>>2815560
Puberty is a rough time, but don't worry you will come out of it.
>>
>>2814739
If there was a $20 filter that gave me that effect, I'd pick one up, have a little fun with it, then stick it on the shelf with my Holga lens.

There's no fucking way I'd want a lens that did that all the time.
>>
>>2815567
Every lens does it in those conditions, only those circles will be slightly different. just shoot something close and put individual sharp highlights into the background...
>>
>>2815567
There are many cheap alternatives:
-Diaplan / Pentacon AV projector lenses as closest copies.
-Other lenses based on "triplet" scheme ( Dukane for example ). And cheapest russian "Tpиплeт"
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiKy2tVquHE

thoughts?
>>
>>2815567
>There's no fucking way I'd want a lens that did that all the time.

Same here.
But for that one time you actually want the effect, that's pretty neat-o

I might buy a second hand lens with interesting bokeh, shoot it for a couple of weeks, and then sell it again at the same price.
>>
>>2815560
>Bokeh is a crutch
>Here let me show you my boring creepshots that are soft as hell and claim they're "art" and can't be criticized
>I'm going to keep talking about how shit it is and ignore anybody who asks me how to take a good shot
>>
>>2815680
>Took a boring shot with boring bokeh "L00K AT ME, VSCO EDIT!"
>>
>>2815680
show me one fucking great photograph by an acclaimed photographer that uses bokeh interestingly.
Its a good tool to separate out distracting elements, but bokeh as an end in itself has never done anything but producing terribly lazy flickr photos of some cristmas ornament with bokeh balls in the background.
buying your lens for how it looks when the image is OOF is a pretty stupid approach. Best case scenario the bokeh is creamy and no one looks at it, as its not distracting from the subject, or worst case it does exactly that because some dumb fat european photographer saw a digital rev article about swirly bokeh and thought Maybe thats what'll make my chubby wife with crooked teeth finally look beautiful -- because no one has to look at her, they can look at the pretty bokeh balls.
>>
File: Scan-140608-0017.jpg (447 KB, 1001x679) Image search: [Google]
Scan-140608-0017.jpg
447 KB, 1001x679
Love it or hate it. This is what you get with a wide open Nikon 50/1.4 AF-D
>>
>>2816247
>I can't afford fast lens so I'm just hating everyone who shoot open wide!
>>
>>2816247
Bokeh can be useful at times to pull out the subject and help put the focus on the subject rather than the surroundings of the photo.
It shouldn't be used all the time, but it does look good especially for portraits.

case in point
>>2816253
I like this shot of the dog and the bokeh helps put the animal into focus. Without the Bokeh, the background might have been distracting.
>>
>>2816276
Yes, it does look good for portraits, but can also be a lazy way of removing the background, without trying to place the subject in an enviroment, removing the whole subject vs enviroment dynamic. not to mention, youre cutting off a whole axis of the 3d enviroment with narrow depth of field.

As for the dog. Its mainly just frustrating, because your eyes are shoehorned to look at one spot in the photo. Humans interpret stills by flickering their eyes around, and all you do in this photo is look at the dogs face, flicker about, not finding anything in focus to look at, returning to the dogs face, instead of creating a composition that naturally guides your eye in an pleasing loop.

bokeh is a natural solution in an forest enviroment, but with this amount youre not even trying. i think there wouldve been tons of more dynamic and creative solutions to be done with a slightly wider depth of field in that photo,

Not saying that this is the only approach, in a professional headshot photographer situation for ex. bokeh is making your job tons easier, and why shouldnt it? but when doing "art photography" its just a technical solution to what should be a creative problem.
>>
>>2816259
Good one. Way to refute any of his thinking, or shoot down any of the points he made. You're doing a great job defending your position.
>>
>>2816276
>Bokeh can be useful at times to pull out the subject and help put the focus on the subject rather than the surroundings of the photo.
It can be, yes, but there are much better ways to do that. With light, with color, with texture, with distance. Just saying "I want you to look at this one thing, so I'm going to completely throw away the entire rest of the photo to force you to look here" is the very lazy way of doing things.
>>
File: 1112.jpg (234 KB, 2048x1365) Image search: [Google]
1112.jpg
234 KB, 2048x1365
I shoot primarily Konica legacy glass with my Sony A7. I think this one was done with the 57mm 1.4.
>>
File: 22.jpg (504 KB, 1280x1792) Image search: [Google]
22.jpg
504 KB, 1280x1792
>>2816347
Same lens. Most of these were to test the bokeh out.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeSONY
Camera ModelILCE-7
Camera SoftwareCapture One 8 Windows
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.0
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2015:12:19 23:53:20
Image Created2015:12:19 23:53:20
Exposure Time1/50 sec
F-Numberf/0.0
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating1000
Brightness-4.6 EV
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModePattern
Light SourceUnknown
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Image Width1874
Image Height2624
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceAuto
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
>>
File: 15327157981_c97849380b_b.jpg (284 KB, 1024x768) Image search: [Google]
15327157981_c97849380b_b.jpg
284 KB, 1024x768
The Steinheil Cassarit 2.8/50mm
>>
File: DSC00290.jpg (603 KB, 1000x1500) Image search: [Google]
DSC00290.jpg
603 KB, 1000x1500
>>2816348
50mm 1.7.

>>2816352
Now that is a little much. Cant imagine that any lower than 2.8.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeSONY
Camera ModelILCE-7
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS6 (Windows)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.0
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Width4000
Image Height6000
Number of Bits Per Component8, 8, 8
Pixel CompositionRGB
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:15 14:44:49
Image Created2016:04:09 21:25:21
Exposure Time1/80 sec
F-Numberf/0.0
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating1600
Brightness-4.8 EV
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModePattern
Light SourceUnknown
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width1000
Image Height1500
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceAuto
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
>>
>>2816347
>>2816348
Very pleasant bokeh. If only it wasn't so soft in the foreground...
>>
>>2816253
Why does your dog look like costanza?
>>
It's supposed to be creamy and blend, not fuckin onion ring shit. The Trioplan is ugly, maybe for super abstract stuff it could be neat, but for a portrait it's godawful.
>>
>>2816537
>incidentally her name is George
>>
>>2816307
>>2816310
I agree that it is pretty lazy at times, but I was just saying that to dismiss using bokeh entirely isn't correct. There are places where it can be used to help guide the focus on the subject, but if your skilled in composition you can use other methods as mentioned to bring the focus to the subject.
Just seemed like >>2816247 was dismissing the use of bokeh entirely.
>>
>>2816348
>>2816352
>>2816354
While I'm saying the use of bokeh can be good, desu these images are way overdoing the use of bokeh imo.
The subject isn't really interesting to me as well.
>>
File: 557_CV_APO_Lanthar_125mm_1.jpg (117 KB, 900x602) Image search: [Google]
557_CV_APO_Lanthar_125mm_1.jpg
117 KB, 900x602
Voigtlander 125mm

I remember the good times when its borkeh wasn't a meme and it cost less than 9000 dollarydoos.
>>
>>2816965
awful
>>
File: $_1.jpg (18 KB, 400x266) Image search: [Google]
$_1.jpg
18 KB, 400x266
>>2814739
Giving a try to Helios f2 44m-2 myself. Cheap as shit atleast here, 60€. Just waiting for my m4/3 frame to arrive to be able to adapt it in... liking sort of its unique swirly thing in bokeh.
>>
>>2817001
You're not gonna get a whole lotta swirl on that small of a sensor with a full frame lens.
>>
File: 9508024007_e1e85c1987_b.jpg (292 KB, 806x1024) Image search: [Google]
9508024007_e1e85c1987_b.jpg
292 KB, 806x1024
>He mistakes meme bubbles with beautiful buttery bokeh!
>>
>>2817001
>60 Euro Helios
Was it gold plated?
>>
>>2817098
Hipster tax is making those fuckers hella more expensive than they were even two years ago.
>>
>>2817001
I have a 44nonM and it does not produce any kind of swirliness on m43. Get one of those rubbish 25mm/35mm C-mount Chinese CCTV lenses instead.
>>
>>2817091
>buttery
He describes the out of focus parts of a photograph as greasy, calorie laden, heart attack gloop
>>
>>2817278
smearing grease on a lens was a legitimate photography technique btw.
>>
File: qowefjd.jpg (171 KB, 1200x798) Image search: [Google]
qowefjd.jpg
171 KB, 1200x798
Bokeh gets boring really fast. Literally the only picture I've done experimenting with it

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATION
Camera ModelNIKON D3200
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS6 (Windows)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.7
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Color Filter Array Pattern906
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)75 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Width6016
Image Height4000
Number of Bits Per Component8, 8, 8
Pixel CompositionRGB
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:17 02:33:24
Exposure Time1/250 sec
F-Numberf/1.8
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating100
Lens Aperturef/1.8
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModeSpot
Light SourceFine Weather
FlashNo Flash
Focal Length50.00 mm
Color Space InformationUncalibrated
Image Width1200
Image Height798
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceManual
Scene Capture TypeStandard
Gain ControlNone
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
Subject Distance RangeUnknown
>>
>>2817278
>He doesn't include dairy products in his fapping sessions.
>>
>>2817290
Probably cuz ur shit at bokeh bruh, try harder next time
>>
>>2817280
>smearing grease on a lens was a legitimate photography technique btw.

Smearing Vaseline on a lens was a legitimate photography technique but hey, maybe you should try daubing half-a-pound of Kerrygold on your primes to see what a real buttery bokeh looks like. You could wipe it off with a slice of bread after
>>
>>2817392
Being pedantic and purposefully interpreting people incorrectly for the sake of starting an argument must be fucking exhausting. No wonder nobody on this board has the energy to ever leave the house and take photos.
>>
>>2816965
now that's nice and creamy. but a bad example
>>
>>2817444
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbdGnJbneE
>>
File: df.jpg (229 KB, 1479x1145) Image search: [Google]
df.jpg
229 KB, 1479x1145
>>2817044
trying it first on m4/3 since bought about 3 of m44-4's with nikon f mount but didnt really give out any swirls, getting nikon adapter after trying out this first (yeah i know its sad to have nikon dslr nowadays, just got very good deal when i got df...)
>>2817098
well, everything i would get from ebay ect, goes to about same price when added expenses
>>2817276
well the helioses usually vary like shit , the 2 series is most quarandeed to produce swirls, while 7 series are most sharp, wich dosent really mean much when being ussr lense
>>
File: butterysmoothbokeh.jpg (232 KB, 1698x1661) Image search: [Google]
butterysmoothbokeh.jpg
232 KB, 1698x1661
how yall like my bow-key?
>>
>>2817539
what lens?
>>
>>2817539
:) I see what you did there.
>>
>>2817539
that physically hurts to look at
>>
>>2817539
This is most accurate to the human eye
>>
File: IMG_4185.jpg (1 MB, 1333x2000) Image search: [Google]
IMG_4185.jpg
1 MB, 1333x2000
>>2817276
I have helios-77m. Swirly as fuck on crop body.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeCanon
Camera ModelCanon EOS 50D
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.6 (Windows)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.4
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution240 dpi
Vertical Resolution240 dpi
Image Created2015:07:18 19:58:30
Exposure Time1/500 sec
F-Numberf/1.4
Exposure ProgramAperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating100
Lens Aperturef/1.4
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModePattern
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length50.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeAuto
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
>>
>>2817558
>>2817559
>>2817735
>>2817758
best part is this is taken from a local photog group for y hometown onm Facebook. I guess he's trying to emulate my FF body with his PowerShot
I find it kind of endearing,
>>
>>2814739
It's piece of shit, not a good bokeh
>>
File: 17Apr14---137-2.jpg (190 KB, 668x1000) Image search: [Google]
17Apr14---137-2.jpg
190 KB, 668x1000
And something like this from zeiss is more pleasant :З
>>
File: 16484482215_7201e4fd74_b.jpg (307 KB, 1024x680) Image search: [Google]
16484482215_7201e4fd74_b.jpg
307 KB, 1024x680
Zenitar-m 50/1.7
>>
>>2817819
who is this cummy mummy
>>
>>2817534
>the helioses usually vary like shit

That variance affects sharpness, because it's dependent on manufacturing precision. The borkeh is pretty much the same - unless you really fuck up the assembly or coatings, two lenses with the same optical construction (as all 44s are) will give indistinguishable borkeh.
>>
>>2817770
That's because you're shooting APS-C. Now crop it further to m43 size and the effect will be far less noticeable.
>>
>>2817991
>crop it further
Why? Why would someone intentionally destroy their photos?
>>
File: DSC_3235_.jpg (231 KB, 1418x945) Image search: [Google]
DSC_3235_.jpg
231 KB, 1418x945
Creamy bokeh >>>> ALL

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATION
Camera ModelNIKON D7100
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.7
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Color Filter Array Pattern974
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)127 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution4801 dpi
Vertical Resolution4801 dpi
Image Created2016:04:08 18:39:50
Exposure Time1/20 sec
F-Numberf/1.8
Exposure ProgramAperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating100
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModeSpot
Light SourceUnknown
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length85.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width1418
Image Height945
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeAuto
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
Gain ControlNone
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessHard
Subject Distance RangeUnknown
>>
File: 1_1.jpg (95 KB, 1000x661) Image search: [Google]
1_1.jpg
95 KB, 1000x661
How about comet shape?

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2015:07:22 22:26:11
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width1000
Image Height1328
>>
>>2818100
dat color fuzz
>>
File: IMGP4709(4chanified).jpg (654 KB, 851x1280) Image search: [Google]
IMGP4709(4chanified).jpg
654 KB, 851x1280
Is my borkeh any good on my old-ass preset Tokina?

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeRICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera ModelPENTAX K-3
Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.8.4
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)202 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:17 21:59:04
Exposure Time1/400 sec
F-Numberf/0.0
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating400
Exposure Bias5 EV
Metering ModeCenter Weighted Average
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length135.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width851
Image Height1280
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
Subject Distance RangeDistant View
>>
>>2814739
Sorry, but Minolta has the best bokeh. Hands down.
>>
what shitty meme lens is this
>>
>>2816247
this man. this man is correct.

bokeh-emphasis is a shibboleth of shitty bad photographers.
>>
>>2816965
Why are the pictures i threw in the garbage showing up on /p/?
>>
>>2817539
photography this bad should be a crime
>>
File: 1459643834602.png (97 KB, 207x201) Image search: [Google]
1459643834602.png
97 KB, 207x201
>>2818100
>animeNEET with a DSLR
>>
>>2818237
Eeehh I have a job anon.
>>
>>2818259
why are you watching animeNEET cartoons then

whats your job anon
>>
>>2818138
What lens was used for this?
>>
File: $_1.jpg (16 KB, 400x266) Image search: [Google]
$_1.jpg
16 KB, 400x266
Just got my Pentacon AV lens. Ready to conquer C&C!
>>
File: 26163251402_9d319b0e3e_k.jpg (836 KB, 2048x1463) Image search: [Google]
26163251402_9d319b0e3e_k.jpg
836 KB, 2048x1463
>>
File: IMG_20160408_141655.jpg (2 MB, 4000x4000) Image search: [Google]
IMG_20160408_141655.jpg
2 MB, 4000x4000
>>2819880
>>
File: 25252875334_bcdaf709b0_b.jpg (76 KB, 1024x683) Image search: [Google]
25252875334_bcdaf709b0_b.jpg
76 KB, 1024x683
>>
>>2819948
this is an example of bad
>>
File: DSC_3241_.jpg (231 KB, 1500x1000) Image search: [Google]
DSC_3241_.jpg
231 KB, 1500x1000


[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATION
Camera ModelNIKON D7100
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Maximum Lens Aperturef/3.6
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Color Filter Array Pattern974
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)157 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:19 20:34:58
Exposure Time1.3 sec
F-Numberf/7.1
Exposure ProgramAperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating100
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModeSpot
Light SourceUnknown
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length105.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width1500
Image Height1000
RenderingCustom
Exposure ModeAuto
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
Gain ControlNone
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessHard
Subject Distance RangeUnknown
>>
File: bokeh.jpg (2 MB, 3264x2448) Image search: [Google]
bokeh.jpg
2 MB, 3264x2448
>>2814739
critique appreciated
>>
>>2820035
bokeh is crap. Looks like vomit.
>>
>>2820035
Is this that one phone's shitty bokeh mode?
>>
File: Helios58m.jpg (509 KB, 1000x750) Image search: [Google]
Helios58m.jpg
509 KB, 1000x750
>>
>>2820035
Too washed-out. Flower should be the first thing my eye gets drawn to, but instead it's the person/path because they're the brightest things in the scene. The flower in the foreground melts into the background flowers, again pulling attention away from the subject.

If you were going to reshoot it, try to do so when the sun is lower in the sky, or partially dimmed by clouds. Try to get it so that the light is perfectly highlighting the flower, so it's the brightest, most colorful, and most vivid thing in the scene. Also, make sure to compose the shot so that the flower is distinct from similarly-colored objects.
>>
I want to have best bokeh. Please recommend me a lens which I have to buy. Is LEICA lens good? I have Canon camera.
>>
>>2820231
mmm is that rosem'ry
>>
File: IMG_0776-1.jpg (1 MB, 2000x1333) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0776-1.jpg
1 MB, 2000x1333
According to /p/, what's a good use of bokeh ? I'm not really at a point where I can fully include something like DOF into a composition, and really justify it, I tried different things but I'm very much an amateur.

I guess it helps to isolate a subject, and I understand that a blured background still has to have something of its own, and not just be a trashbin for what you don't want to show, but I don't feel like I have a full definition of what it can and can't be used for.

Like for example, with B/W, at first it was really dificult for me to make the switch to B/W on a particular shot, because for me it seemed like most people just used it as an "artsy on/off". Now I understand a little more the concept of abstraction, and the fact that colors sometimes aren't a positive component of a shot, I'd like to find the same kind of definition and boudaries for bokeh, if possible.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeCanon
Camera ModelCanon EOS 760D
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom 6.0 (Windows)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.8
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution72 dpi
Vertical Resolution72 dpi
Image Created2016:04:20 19:40:53
Exposure Time1/100 sec
F-Numberf/2.5
Exposure ProgramAperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating800
Lens Aperturef/2.5
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModePattern
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length50.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeAuto
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
>>
>>2820627
To most people who are putting a lot of effort into every aspect of their scenes (picking a perspective, getting a good environment, and therefore a good background) a thin depth of field is a negative side effect of having to open your aperture up to get enough light. It blurs out your background that you put so much effort into finding and arranging.

Since more and more people have become cell-phone photographers (previously, people only using disposable cameras with fixed small apertures), the general populace is taking photos on devices that are not able to create photos with dramatically thin depths of field, so when they see photos that DO utilize it, they're impressed and wowed by it (regardless of whether it improves the photo or in most cases, ruins it)

If you'd like to find a middle ground between always shooting for everything in your shot being in focus, and straight up bokeh whoring (as most of us do) then you can choose to try to use it as a way to help guide your viewer's eye to where you want them to look, and to help to simplify a busy scene that you can't rearrange or alter.

For instance, if you're in the woods, doing a portrait: If you were to shoot at f/22 on a 50mm lens, you're going to get a LOT of the scene in focus. If the scene is well built for it, that can be great, but in most forest scenes, that's going to leave you with tons of twigs and little rocks and bark and leaves all in sharp focus with tons of very distracting detail making the whole image seem busy and noisy. Now, an f/1.2 whore will just blow the whole background away and be happy to have done so, but then why did he bother taking his model out into the woods in the first place? In stead, one can shoot at f/5.6, to remove the most dramatic levels of distracting detail, while still letting the subject live in the scene, and giving her room to interact and belong.
>>
>>2820644
cont

If you DO decide to blow everything away, it becomes a game of arranging blobs in a way that doesn't distract or throw off the balance of the scene. If you have a lot of dark blobs on one side, but only light blobs on the other, that's going to affect your composition, so you need to either minimize your blob variety, or at least spread it around the scene in a way that isn't detrimental to the outlines of the subject (brown blob in the background right against a brown shirt on your model, making it look like they have a big brown growth on the side of their shoulder) or the balance of the overall composition.


Really, everyone goes through a phase where they want as thin a DOF as possible, and as little background as possible (much like a man who's forced to sit in a little box for years and years wants to run and run as he's let out) and many people stay in that phase, but most of the talented photographers out there (read: Talented, not necessarily commercially succesful) grow out of this phase and into that middle ground.
>>
>>2820596
85 1.8
>>
>>2820648
nah, 85 1.2 nigga
>>
>>2820644
>To most people who are putting a lot of effort into every aspect of their scenes (picking a perspective, getting a good environment, and therefore a good background) a thin depth of field is a negative side effect of having to open your aperture up to get enough light. It blurs out your background that you put so much effort into finding and arranging.

This doesn't exist and if it does exist it's only because the photographer is a literal retard who has no fucking clue how his camera works.
>>
>>2820651
I assumed the poster wouldn't have that kind of budget.
>>
File: 1369055143129.jpg (774 KB, 1500x844) Image search: [Google]
1369055143129.jpg
774 KB, 1500x844
>>2820654
Please elaborate. Many photographers shoot for very wide depth of field, to include the entire scene they've worked hard to put their subject in.

For instance, how would the attached photo be improved with a narrower depth of field?

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeCanon
Camera ModelCanon EOS 5D Mark II
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom 4.2 (Windows)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.8
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2013:05:20 14:05:08
Exposure Time1/320 sec
F-Numberf/11.0
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating200
Lens Aperturef/11.0
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModePattern
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length70.00 mm
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
>>
>>2820659
Please elaborate on why a photographer would "work really hard to create a scene" and fail to account for having enough light to get it all in?

Literal retard who has no fucking clue how their camera works.
>>
>>2820661
"work really hard to create a scene" may mean scouting a location and putting a model there. Starting a shoot in the late afternoon to take golden hour into account, but then light starts falling and using strobes isn't going to match with the rest of the shoot.

Coming back another day means hiring assistants, hair, makeup, stylist, model for another day.

Are you just ignoring obvious possibilities in order to feel superior or something? Have you never been forced to open your aperture as an unexpectedly low light level happens to your subject?
>>
>>2820664
I'm not the one that's claiming that working to create a scene doesn't include literally the exact most important facet of the scene to a photographer: the fucking light.

You know? Those little strange photon thingies that might be a wave or might be a particle and make people's heads explode when they try to comprehend the physics of them?

If you're not considering the light, you're not "working really hard to create a scene" for photography, period.
>>
>>2820659
You do realize that's a composite image? No way the mountains would look that close with such a wide angle lens.
>>
>>2820672
>70mm
>wide angle lens
Thanks for your input /p/

I was there. It isn't a composite.
>>
>>2818190
no one likes my smorkeh borkeh
>>
>>2817539
love how the fucking bird isnt even in focus in the first place
>>
File: 9656_trioplan5029_1.jpg (601 KB, 1400x933) Image search: [Google]
9656_trioplan5029_1.jpg
601 KB, 1400x933
>>
>>2820666
You sound really dumb dude.
>>
>>2820917
>photography isn't about light!
>light is not a consideration of photography
>setting a scene/finding a scene to be photographed is entirely done irrespective of the light!

>fuck me, I built this giant beautiful bed but I can't fit it through any of the doors!
>>
>>2820929
Nobody said any of those things except you. I kinda think you're just pretending to be retarded but I'm not too sure, if you are only pretending then you must do this a lot because you're doing a very good job.
>>
>>2820972
>works really hard to set up scene
>but oh no! part of scene is out of focus because having to shoot at wide aperture
That's literally not considering the light when doing all that "hard work". If the hypothetical person were considering the light, that would be taken care of in all of the "hard work".
>>
>>2820672
not a composite.
I was there too.
Scotland is magic.
>>
>>2818660
looks like the old nikkor 50/1.8
>>
>>2820872
lovely effect
>>
>>2817444
Mcfucking kill yourself.

This is 4chan.
Where did you think you are?
>>
File: 20150723-_DSC3493.jpg (265 KB, 1000x668) Image search: [Google]
20150723-_DSC3493.jpg
265 KB, 1000x668
Macro Bokeh

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATION
Camera ModelNIKON D800
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.3 (Windows)
PhotographerJuan Pablo Valenzuela
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.0
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Color Filter Array Pattern854
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)105 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:22 01:42:46
Exposure Time1/250 sec
F-Numberf/11.0
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating400
Lens Aperturef/11.0
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModeCenter Weighted Average
Light SourceUnknown
FlashFlash, Compulsory, Return Detected
Focal Length105.00 mm
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
Gain ControlLow Gain Up
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
Subject Distance RangeUnknown
>>
>>2822089
Nice. I always try to shoot them like that in Summer but haven't got that well away with it yet.
>>
File: 20140425-P1020042.jpg (343 KB, 668x1000) Image search: [Google]
20140425-P1020042.jpg
343 KB, 668x1000
>>2822108
you can do it with some tricks, like 36mp, 105mm macro manual and a lot of patience.
freakings hoverflys

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakePanasonic
Camera ModelDMC-GF3
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.3 (Windows)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.0
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2014:04:25 09:09:52
Exposure Time1/400 sec
Exposure ProgramAperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating160
Exposure Bias0 EV
Metering ModeCenter Weighted Average
Light SourceUnknown
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeAuto
White BalanceManual
Scene Capture TypeStandard
Gain ControlLow Gain Up
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
>>
File: dsc00005-1.jpg (205 KB, 427x640) Image search: [Google]
dsc00005-1.jpg
205 KB, 427x640
What's about lensbaby? Tool of toy?

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeSONY
Camera ModelILCE-7M2
Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop CS6 (Macintosh)
Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.0
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Width427
Image Height640
Number of Bits Per Component8, 8, 8
Pixel CompositionRGB
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:12 15:31:48
Image Created2016:04:09 13:43:36
Exposure Time1/250 sec
F-Numberf/0.0
Exposure ProgramAperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating50
Brightness4.0 EV
Exposure Bias0.3 EV
Metering ModePattern
Light SourceUnknown
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width427
Image Height640
Exposure ModeAuto
White BalanceAuto
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
>>
>>2823098
Mainly toy. Results aren't reproduced easily enough for it to be a tool in my opinion. The tool equivalent would be a tilt shift lens/camera with movements.
>>
File: 22207986066_b273e17864_o.jpg (409 KB, 1000x665) Image search: [Google]
22207986066_b273e17864_o.jpg
409 KB, 1000x665
Everyone loves a flower snapshit with smooth bokeh.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeRICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera ModelPENTAX K-3
Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.8.4
Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color Area
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)82 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution300 dpi
Vertical Resolution300 dpi
Image Created2016:04:23 16:11:34
Exposure Time1/640 sec
F-Numberf/0.0
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating400
Exposure Bias5 EV
Metering ModeCenter Weighted Average
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length55.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width1000
Image Height665
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
White BalanceAuto
Scene Capture TypeStandard
ContrastNormal
SaturationNormal
SharpnessNormal
Subject Distance RangeUnknown
>>
File: 5669003.jpg (427 KB, 900x621) Image search: [Google]
5669003.jpg
427 KB, 900x621
I unironically like hexagons.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Image-Specific Properties:
>>
File: 5667005.jpg (481 KB, 1000x720) Image search: [Google]
5667005.jpg
481 KB, 1000x720


[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Image-Specific Properties:
>>
>>2823258
Beautiful
>>
File: 9L4X0761.jpg (130 KB, 502x752) Image search: [Google]
9L4X0761.jpg
130 KB, 502x752
2 blades, 2 blades, Carl!
>>
>>2823263
What lens has square borkeh?
>>
>>2823270
you can get it on any lens by cutting a lil square cardboard filter ish thingie and put it on your lens. works with any shape too
>>
File: penis-glowing.jpg (27 KB, 500x335) Image search: [Google]
penis-glowing.jpg
27 KB, 500x335
>>2823281
Related
>>
>>2823281
That was gonna be my second guess.
>>
File: bokeh.jpg (145 KB, 900x600) Image search: [Google]
bokeh.jpg
145 KB, 900x600
Most round bokeh coming in.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]
Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment MakeCanon
Camera ModelCanon EOS 20D
Camera SoftwaredigiKam-4.12.0
Lens Size1.00 - 65535.00 mm
Firmware VersionFirmware 2.0.3
Owner Nameunknown
Serial Number0330121043
Image-Specific Properties:
Image OrientationTop, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution72 dpi
Vertical Resolution72 dpi
Image Created2016:04:22 19:33:51
Exposure Time1/800 sec
F-Numberf/1.4
Exposure ProgramManual
ISO Speed Rating1600
Lens Aperturef/1.4
Exposure Bias0 EV
FlashNo Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length50.00 mm
Color Space InformationsRGB
Image Width3504
Image Height2336
RenderingNormal
Exposure ModeManual
Scene Capture TypeStandard
Exposure ModeManual
Focus TypeAuto
Metering ModePartial
SharpnessUnknown
SaturationNormal
ContrastNormal
Shooting ModeManual
Image SizeLarge
Focus ModeManual
Drive ModeSingle
Flash ModeOff
Compression SettingFine
Macro ModeNormal
White BalanceAuto
Exposure Compensation3
Sensor ISO Speed288
Image Number847-4798
Color Matrix0
>>
>>2823281
Zenitar-ME1 50/1.7
>>
File: mid_view-2.jpg (189 KB, 1000x776) Image search: [Google]
mid_view-2.jpg
189 KB, 1000x776
>>2823531
>Zenitar-ME1 50/1.7
>>
>>2823261
What pisses me off is I took that shot in my newbie days when I didn't even know how to use compensation and I still haven't been able to pull the same off. Nowadays every time I try to shoot Ektar it turns out utter shit with dead colors and blown highlights.
Thread replies: 140
Thread images: 42

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.