Other than Memecam GR users, why is the 28mm focal length so unpopular? It's like everyone has 50mm and 35mm on a pedestal as "le official streettog lens XD" and 28mm is in the corner covered in cobwebs.
Are there even good photographers who use 28mm?
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>>2814073
>Are there even good photographers who use 28mm?
Me.
>>2814093
him, and me
>>2814095
don't forget me
what? everyone constantly rips on 50mm for being too generic and lacking intimacy
I've taken photos with a 28mm and i think they're good. It's hard to tell but i think i'm a
>good photographers who use 28mm?
King Terry likes 28mm (equivalent)
>>2814073
When I want wide, 28mm isn't usually wide enough for me. When I want normal, 28mm is usually too wide. I'm happier with a 20-24mm and a 35-50mm.
I use a 28mm on my film SLR for architecture and landscape
Nice meme!
I love my 28mm for landscape stuff. 35 is not that much wider than the 50 that I would bother buying it.
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28mm is the ideal focal length if you can't decide between wide-angle and normal focal lengths.
>>2814141
No that's 43mm
>>2814159
No that's 28mm
>>2814162
OK crop baby
>>2814073
I was under the impression that 28mm is definitely one of the more popular focal lengths in street photography. Bruce Gilden shoots a lot of 28. Winogrand did.
The Leica Q and GR are both 28 because they cater to this crowd. Only stupid Fuji used 35 for the x100.
I shot 28mm a lot with film and can't find a nice equivalent for crop sensors. Nikon only has big bulky zooms and Sony only has the crappy 16mm pancake
>>2814073
28 is just great for dynamic photographs without hideous wide angle perspective. Salgado used 28 a lot btw.
>>2814107
This nigga knows what's up. 24 is a good focal length if you're wanting to go wide.
Because the fd 28/2.0 is such a nice lens
>>2814172
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It's the best 28mm equiv lense for crop sensors, with a free camera thrown in.
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28mm is only good on proper apsc, on which becomes the equivalent of the answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything.
>>2814073
Based Garry Winogrand and Bruce Gilden uses and used (rip) 28mm
Can't think of more, though. I think James Nachtwey was using a 28mm 1.8 in War Photographer on an EOS 1N
>>2814073
I think a lot more people than you think love the 28mm. 35mm is becoming more popular though so that makes the 28mm less popular since it's so close. I think the 28mm complements the 50mm perfectly for me.
actually, I prefer 24mm for some streets and landscapes
50mm and 28mm were the two lenses everyone and their mom had in the film days. 28mm isn't as popular now because it's 'boring' thanks to every phone in the world having a roughly 28mm equivalent lens.
>>2814333
Say that to my face and not onine, faggot. See what happens.
>>2814333
I use 28 and 50 all the time, while my 35 is benched. I find 35 to be that awkward length that just doesn't seem to be good at anything. I don't shoot street though.
Say you have a 3 prime set up.
35, 50, 85.
85 is your tele.
50 and 35 is just 2 standards so it's not too wide
so you go down to 28
at which point you've got 28/50/85
really, you might as well just get a bit wider with a 24
>>2814337
>Say that to my face and not onine, faggot.
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>>2814105
lol at the faggot behind him with what looks like a holga lens on his canon. top kek
28mm is in fashion right now more than anything.
I mostly use 35mm (or eqivalent) for walk around, but I'd love to have a 28 too. I feel like 50 is too long for every day stuff, I often try to frame up a shot and have to back up quite a bit. 28 seems just wide enough without being "wide angle" and 35 and is sort of just right for standard, at least for me.
I don't even own a 35.
28, 50, 85 serves me well enough.
I have a 105 that I never use.
>>2814073
Aren't all phone cameras aprox. 28mm equivalent?
>>2814166
>X70
>>2814626
>no hybrid VF aka only reason to buy Fuji
>>2814635
>Physical controls
>Great lens design
>Great colors and processing for jpegs
>XTrans sensor with high resolution and reduced moire
>only reason
That being said, there's also the wide angle adapter for the X100 series.
>>2814635
>only reason
>not wanting a shutter speed dial
>not wanting an aperture ring
>not wanting a nice ergonomic camera (your mileage may vary, the X70 is a little too small imo)
wew
>>2814644
you're the only person i've seen call the X70 small, people usually say it's too big usually because it can't fit into their skinny jeans
neither can my cock but i don't wear skinny jeans
>>2814656
Just because it's too big to fit into a pocket doesn't mean it's not still too small to be used effectively as a camera. Cameras are getting smaller and smaller, but hands are staying more or less the same size.
>>2814661
it's about the same dimensions as a GR though which i guess is its main competition
some of the buttons and dials might be a bit finicky though, i'll give you that, i haven't seen a single owner of an X70 not complain about the record button
>>2814666
What's wrong with the video button?
(Not a challenge or argument, I genuinely don't know)
>>2814668
the thing is miniscule and in a pretty shitty position ergonomically
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>>2814676
fuji's video is garbage anyway. As a fujifilm user I don't see why anyone would complain.
>>2814679
it can be an fn button too so it isn't completely useless but then you've just got a tiny awkwardly placed shortcut
>>2814159
43 is narrow as fuck you troll faggot
>>2814637
>I'm really looking for a sensor with greater moire reduction
Said no one ever. X trans is a huge failure, most people are hoping Fuji drops it but Fuji is far too invested. I use Fuji now and can say that while X Trans is a big marketing point it's useless and only causes issues with Lightroom. I hope they scrap the tech but they won't.
And the dials are marginally useful as well. My $300 k30 has two dials that do functionally the same thing.
The hybrid VF is the only selling point for fixed lens Fuji over Ricoh/Panasonic/Sony.
>>2814693
>Said no one ever
Said anyone who's ever looked into getting a bayer sensor with no AA filter...
>XTrans is a huge failure
Is it? How so?
>Most people are hoping Fuji drops it
I'm not aware of any majority of people suggesting that. You're actually the first I've seen say something like that.
>issues with Lightroom
True, but nothing major.
>The hybrid VF is the only selling point for fixed lens Fuji over Ricoh/Panasonic/Sony.
For you, personally, in your personal opinion.
>>2814138
meme grain and meme filter
still looks good though
eric kim is an advocate of the memecam GR, why am I not surprised?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwG5rGfPdFs
>>2814707
>Is it?
Yes, because while a lack of AA filter might have been novel when the XP1 came out it really isn't that uncommon anymore. Fuji has managed to drop money into a sensor with essentially no advantages over most of its competition which only makes post processing slower and less reliable. Unless you have a Mac and bought irridient, you are never going to see the full quality of your files, so what was the point?
Yes, X Trans is a failure that Fuji will cling to because it's their main marketing claim. I don't really frequent forums, but I did go to a few to find out more about the XP2 release and "pls Fuji go back to bayer" was a common topic because you get additional pain during processing for no advantage over other new sensors.
>>2814682
Perfect for using wi-fi communication, instead of digging into the menu to get to.
>>2814693
>My $300 k30 has two dials that do functionally the same thing.
Nice. You have a dial on your lens barrel that you can just use for aperture selection? You have a dial which gives you a physical and relative readout of shutter speed without using an LCD?
Right on! What is this digital camera that isn't a Leica, Fuji or Epson? It's a Pentax! Nice. K-30!
Oh wait, that's right. It's not the same thing at all.
While they can perform close to the same function, they are indeed not the same function.
>>2814736
>You have a dial which gives you a physical and relative readout of shutter speed without using an LCD?
It's in the VF homie. The only difference is you can't use it when the camera is off, which I guess if changing shutter speed on a powered off camera is a selling point for you, it's different.
But let's not pretend like it's the functionality and not the old skool look you're after.
>>2814746
>have to use the viewfinder/lcd
Not what I'm looking for.
>But let's not pretend like it's the functionality and not the old skool look you're after.
Maybe I just want that old skool functionality and feel. Maybe because I still shoot film more than digital and all but two of my cameras have a shutter speed dial.
>>2814748
>functionality and feel
But it's the same thing in a different location...
>>2814756
>same thing
>same
>there is a difference between the two
You keep using that word, anon. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Don McCullin's favourite focal length was/is 28mm.
>>2814759
Sorry, you're right, the groundbreaking difference is that it works when the camera is off and it looks vintage around your neck.
Definitely the big reason to go Fuji, not the HVF.
>>2814779
For me it's more that the knobs always serve the same function that I prefer. The shutter speed dial is always the shutter speed dial, no matter what mode you're in. I can also easily set up my shot when I'm walking up, rather than having to stop and stick my head in the viewfinder. Yesterday, I was walking over to an event where I was going to have to be freezing some motion, so as I was walking, I just looked down at my camera while it was off, and set the shutter speed to 1/500, set the aperture to A, and the ISO to A. It's a very very minor thing, but I enjoy it, and so it's worth it to me. I could live without it (and I have) but why should I when the option I prefer is available to me?
Garry Winogrand used to shoot a lot with the 28mm
>>2814073
Who 24mm here?
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>>2814431
>not shooting 14/28/50
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>>2814138
dropped my trip on previous post
this was shot on Superia 1600, #nofiltersneeded
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>>2815258 was meant for >>2814711 , I'm too hungover to work out quotes today
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>>2814779
Jokes aside, that vintage styling is one of the main reasons people are buying Fuji these days.
>>2815467
[citation needed]
I got into it for the ergonomics and the lenses. I could care less how it's styled.
