Since I live in Florida now, I'm mainly looking on tips on how to shoot OK stuff in really bright conditions.
Using the shit photos in the thread as a starting point, give me guidance in the technical direction.
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I think I threw up in my mouth a little.
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What a shit show!
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They're blurry!
God, this makes me want to burn my fucking eyes out.
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Here's a stupid fucking bird.
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Here's that same stupid fucking bird.
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Oh look, a fucking bird again and the shot was basically ruined.
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Here's a picture of a bug anyone could have taken in their backyards'.
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Everyone likes pine trees.
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Expose for highlights. Quartz sand likes to blow the fuck out. Get used to "underexposed" starting points.
On the technical front, when it comes to this kind of extremely busy vegetation (pine needles, leaves smaller than a fingernail, etc) its an *extreme* help to have a lens that is completely free of color fringing.
The reason for that is that while it's easy for software to remove that without a second thought with broad-leaf foliage, buildings, or people, its actually quite hard to fix it sufficiently when you have fine, overlapping details. This is most likely to blame for most of your apparent softness, in fact.
Usually "buy a new lens" is a terrible solution, but when it comes to needle-y foliage and the like, it's pretty worthwhile to invest in fixing flaws optically if you don't like that blue halo bullshit.
Photo is a comparison between needle foliage with a lens that relies on software corrections (left, 16-50) vs a well corrected 25mm Voigtlander (right)
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Are the exif data correct? There is 500 iso everywhere - work with your iso setting to get optimal exposure time. Keep it low unless you shoot in bad light conditions or with full zoom.
When shooting objects, consider using low aperture to blur away everything unimportant in the photo.
>>2812183
are you isis? cuz your highlights are blown :^)
no sorry anyway. Your exposure needs working on. A lot of working on. Just keep practicing, take a photo at a certain setting, preview it, if it looks good, keep going, if it doesn't try other settings. Don't just shutter-spam, take your time and frame things, to get the best, keep trying different angles and what not to get different results. Keep your ISO low in day light conditions, so thats around 50-320. Use autofocus for now, its not a magical skill to use manual focus. Buy a better lens too pls, gearfaggy as it may be, your lens atm is dogshit, I assume its that 50-200 kit lens, f4-5.6. Sell it, you'll get a good $200 for it maybe and buy yourself a nice prime like the 50 1.8. in the day time you wont have to go below f4 and above f10, stay between that range, best sharpness and shutter speed availability.
Lastly, pls, pls, pls, learn to edit.
>>2812216
>are you isis? cuz your highlights are blown
Does "highlights" mean something else? Does ISIS blow up things called "highlights"?
>kit lens
Yeah it is but I don't see how a prime would have been able to achieve any of the shots I posted.
>its not a magical skill to use manual focus
What are the benefits?
>>2812211
That's mainly me being lazy with the camera. The lens does shitty in low light conditions. I was moving from shadowed canopy to direct sunlight all day.
>>2812205
Thanks for the info. Never knew of this.
>>2812199
I really like this one.
>>2812232
Never mind the shitty joke.
With the manual focus thing I'm saying don't bother manually focusing, I don't know if you did but your shots are not in focus.
> yeah it is but I don't see how a prime would've been able to achieve any of these shots I posted.
Maybe that would've been a good thing anon.. A prime would get you thinking and help practice framing while also getting better quality.
>>2812264
Hey man fuck you
>>2812216
>remember to keep the ISO at 50 to fuck up dynamic range, so you can blow your highlights and clip your shadows at the same time!
Fix'd for ya.
What part of Florida are you staying in, opie?
>>2812264
>no difference
In the same way that the color blue is a new invention
>>2812216
>complains about blown highlights and bad editing
>posts a thread a week ago where literally every snapshit was BTFO, along with some meme tier editing
Holy shit omi just fuck off you cunt. If you can't even follow your own advice, then don't fucking act like you're in the position to be telling others how to correctly expose and edit a photograph
>>2812346
Cape Canaveral. These were taken at Merritt Island though.
>>2812264
>No difference in those images.
Maybe not to your amateur eye, much as newcomers often don't notice CA.
CA and bloom on tiny, fine detail, high contrast subjects (like, again, pine needles) is the chief perp for "soft" or "weird" shots involving such foliage.
High contrast areas with a pixel or less of detail + poor optics = smudged line with blue halo. Since this kind of foliage stacks atop itself, removing it isn't a simple matter of "subtract X color"; it's also modifying the layers of needle beneath it.
No gearfagging is really needed to resolve this. I'm not telling OP he has to buy an EXPENSIVE lens, I'm telling him what optical qualities will suit him best for this sort of subject matter...as someone who mostly shoots this kind of subject matter.
This isn't one of those traits that lens price is even dictated much by, since many modern high-end lenses rely on software to correct it instead of optics. A 24-70 L has atrocious bloom and CA on this sort of subject matter with even a hint of overexposure. A $20 Russian 40mm f4 from a Smena on the other hand doesn't really have this problem at all.
>>2812377
hour north of my hometown
also
>OP mentions he's from Florida
>having trouble with Florida landscape
>no summoning of the resident Florida landscape photography demi-god Sugar who apprenticed under Clyde Butcher the true master Florida photographer
what the fuck man this is like if someone moved to Greely, CO and had trouble with landscapes there and no one summoned Alex Burke god damn you guys are sleeping
first off, ignore this broad
>>2812444
>>2812205
except for the expose for highlights that's partially true, but you want to save your shadows in vegetation too. check the EXIF, I underexposed almost a full stop, this was to bring out proper exposure in foreground vegetation. I knew at 100 ISO I could get the background exposure fully recovered in Lightroom.
By the way this shot has been hailed as some of my best work and it was shot on a lens LOADED with color fringing, a scratch and dent Canon 20-35 f3.5-4.5 USM that I had dropped how many times. Color fringing can be corrected in Lightroom I have lenses with chromatic abberation up the ass and I can use Lightroom to correct them. I have a solid track record of shooting with shitty glass and getting decent results. You don't need another camera if I could pull this off on an 11-year-old 5D what's your excuse.
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>>2812480
also I hereby declare Florida landscape thread fuckers.
OP Florida has tons of lakes, ponds sloughs and streams and most importantly, springs. Use them to your advantage.
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>>2812482
To get stuff like this you're either gonna have to walk and hike, or wait for everyone to leave which is what I did.
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>>2812484
You're definitely going for a hike for something like this. If you want anything decent in this state be prepared to drive far. This was about 4 hours northwest of you in East Palatka.
I achieved this with a 1 minute exposure on a 28-70 kit lens and a 6x neutral density filter in a very narrow 1 week period where we actually get a fall in the north part of the state. Doesn't always happen though but I got lucky this time.
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>>2812491
This was done in Gainesville, on medium format film mind you, standing up to my waist in black swamp water. You might want to get waders for stuff like this, and I hope you're not scared of gators, because there's probably 30 of them hiding in this photo lol
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>>2812494
I did this just a couple miles south of Merritt Island on the Eau Gallie Causeway.
You'll see lots of these. Plan accordingly.
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>>2812482
>>2812484
>>2812491
pls stahp
>I achieved this
Much in the same way that a dung beetle makes a home for it's babbys, scraping together a bunch of shit into a big pile it can stand on.
You have real cameras, why don't you use them instead of spamming the same old shit from your 5Dinosaur over and over?
You have no shame about posting photos of your friends and family, but STILL no new photos, except ones you took with an EVEN WORSE digital camera, that you've already posted twice!
>>2812497
Get down to Key West when you get the chance and stop in The Cafe for some grub. If you're not off the mainland by like 9pm you can forget making it there by sunset during tourist season, which is October-March.
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>>2812499
>but Sugar bby those are old works you did
It's okay when Alex Burke does it though!
>>2807430
No, just fuck you I'm trying to actually help anon for once this year, this is the only decent thread where I should post some previous work as an example for OP who knows maybe he hasn't seen them and fuck isi with her disinfo she is literally the single worst poster on this board even worse than shitposting anon
>>2812509
>No, just fuck you I'm trying to actually help anon for once this year, this is the only decent thread where I should post some previous work as an example for OP who knows maybe he hasn't seen them and fuck isi with her disinfo she is literally the single worst poster on this board even worse than shitposting anon
He isn't asking for location info, though I'm sure he could use that too. He's asking for technical help.
Brightly lit pine beaches are an extreme technical subject, though they don't seem it to many, and getting a *clean* shot of it requires a particular approach.
You, individually, have never succeeded at it to my knowledge. Deeper inland swamps don't have the same issues to deal with as photos like the OP photo.
>disinfo
I gave him exactly what he asked for. You're a trucker, Sugar. Being from Florida doesn't automatically mean you're an expert on the subject of photographing it.
>>2812494
I'd recommend a ladder and a polarizer instead.
Unless you like muddy poop greens and browns. Y'all filmfags are into some weird shit, who knows.
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>>2812543
woopsie, device swap :^)
>>2812480
>loaded with color fringing
Are you fucking retarded, Sugar? It's black and white. That *nulls color fringing almost entirely.*
Of course it is irrelevant here, you balloon.
Also, that's not saving shadows in vegetation. This is saving shadows in vegetation.
>he actually thinks its his best photo because /p/ likes seeing womens butts
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>>2812491
And here, Sugar, you have extremely bad blooming evident in the upper frame. I would assume it was probably an overcast day, grey/blue sky, yeah?
The contrast of that against the foliage of those shaded tree limbs results in...exactly what I described how to avoid optically above.
Can it be fixed in post? To a degree. If this is something you deal with regularly, is it worth fixing it optically, for both convenience and better results? Fucking yes. It's not an expensive thing to fix. Most expensive lenses ironically struggle with this, as modern optical design places very little priority on these little details; but they're important details if your goal is non-artifacted landscapes on a small format system.
I'm not telling OP he needs a new system. I'm not telling him he needs a top of the line lens. I'm diagnosing the problems I can *see, evidently* in his photos on the technical side, and explaining the most concrete way around them.
You can get infrared-like results shooting a Fuji APS-C camera and fucking with the sliders incredibly hard, since they already see a little into the range. You can do that without even putting on a filter.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't invest in an IR filter if this is something you wanna do a lot. It's a poor method.
>>2812546
It was over before it began.
Jesse, you idiot.
>>2812550
>shots miniature formate
>can't get sufficient depth of field
>>2812509
>It's okay when Alex Burke does it though!
That's because Alex's photos are actually good, you arrogant cunt.
>>2812509
>No, just fuck you I'm trying to actually help anon for once this year, this is the only decent thread where I should post some previous work as an example for OP who knows maybe he hasn't seen them and fuck isi with her disinfo she is literally the single worst poster on this board even worse than shitposting anon
Jesus Sugar, I know isi picks on you for being vegan, but that was sad to read
>>2812183
I live in Florida too, anon! Maybe we could meet up and go shooting, I know some great places.
>>2812546
captcha "select all images with commercial trucks"
Isi and Sugar are secretly a father daughter duo
>>2812183
I live in Florida and have learned to deal with the amount of light all the time. Golden hour helps too.
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>>2815802
Love how sometimes Florida can look like bits of everything. This one reminded me of Africa.
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>>2815802
Which part:
Mexican Florida
Methhead Cracker Florida
Retired Jersey Jew Florida
Cuban Florida?
>>2815805
Id say retired jersey jew Florida aka Punta Gorda..
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>>2815811
I dunno, that's a bit more Cuban. Retired JJ is more The Villages kind of area.
>>2815814
>Villages
>Not West Palm Bitch
>Not Ft. Jewderdale
>Not Micco / Barefoot Bay
>>2815963
Yeah, the literal fucking retirement community that spans three hole fucking counties (possibly more by now -- it's been a while since I looked) in central Florida just south of Orlando...
Fuck me guy, do you not know anything about the shithole of a state you live in?
>>2815966
There is nothing there but cow pastures, the Florida Autobahn aka Turnpike south of Orlando and State Road 441 and all of the ghost towns that sprung up along the Kissimmee Valley Extension of the FEC Railway built in 1910, all the way to Okechobee.
If you're talking about Hardee, De Soto and Charlotte that's the West Coast and not south or Orlando.
shoot at a narrower aperture in the outdoors for general landscape shots. You're first one is at f/4, should be much higher for that type of shot. You're focus is off on some of the macro shots, toss them. Too tired to look at rest.
>>2815971
My bad, south of Ocala
all this florida talk and I have zero florida shots
can we meet at publix
>>2815984
Yes I will meet you, or any Florida anon. I've never gone shooting with anyone before and dying to get out there
>>2815984
>>2816575
I do a ton of nature photography, and i live on a preserve.
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Where should I go to shoot
t. Gainesvilleanon
>>2816799
Paine's prairie is pretty neat, and ichetucknee isn't that far.
>>2816575
been living in tallahassee a year and haven't made a photo friend yet. looking to find at least one before I graduate because I was going to take grad photos at a dump
>>2816795
for how long? I'm at the end of the semester and I might just die before summer begins
>>2816821
are you in tallahassee???
>>2816839
Yea, been living here almost 3 years now.
>>2816842
damn sick I moved here in august. I work at club downunder on fsu campus
so much good food it's insane. what part of town?
>>2816843
Oh the food here is fucking righteous. Whole reason I'm out of shape now is because I worked at Donut Kingdom for 8 months, getting free donuts every day, which were like crack. Monk's, Momo's, Voodoo Dog, Kiku, Gordo's, so many fantastic places. And those are just the college places.
I live in the hood desu, just outside Frenchtown.
>>2816845
>desu
damn word filter.
>>2816846
it's okay, fampaitachi
you'll learn to start talking like a local soon enough
>>2816839
Damn i guess none of you guys are as far south as Punta Gorda.
>>2816845
donut kingdom is fierce, cop me some blueberry pancake donuts
also I work at the publix and it's terrible but it's only 1-2 times a week now
>>2816858
I'm out of school right now because loans, I work ~40 hours a week.
Gotta pay dem bills. Hopefully soon I'll save enough to go back and do Photo.
>>2812195
"Human detected"
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>>2816795
I'm down! I've been craving a visit to the springs now that it's getting warmer
>>2816823
Payne's Prairie is a bunch of nothing unless you are shooting clouds.
Ichetucknee is loaded with tourists but you can still have fun especially with an underwater cam.
>>2816821
Gainesville. Because food. And because possible daytrip to Cedar Key.
>>2816857
I've gone down to the keys to shoot. Come up and see us.
