Hey, it's the new Sigma SD Quattro H!
>new foveon sensor
>aps-h
>mirrorless
>interchangeable lens
Looking good
>Sigma SA lens mount
so much WHY
It's like they saw the Pentax K-01 and thought WHOA WHAT A GREAT IDEA LET'S MAKE ONE WITH AN EVEN BIGGER BODY AND MORE OBSCURE LENS MOUNT
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>>2790286
>SA mount
will EF lenses be compatible? that thing also looks much better with the grip. EVF location is real odd though.
>>2790296
jsut herps and derps man
It looks more like the Ricoh GXR than anything.
OP confirmed for newfaggot
>>2790286
It's a real shame that they put a stupid custom mount on it. It sounds (and looks) like a terrific camera otherwise.
However, if it's super cheap then the mount issue isn't that bad, but I doubt it'll be cheap enough to justify that.
They're fucking idiots for not making an innovative mount that fits lenses from every first party manufacturer. They make third-party lenses, why not be the first to make a third-party body?
>>2790342
>custom mount
It's Sigmas mount it's been theirs for a decade.
In your opinion what would be the original mount? Canon EF? Nikon F? Pentax K or M42? Is Sony E and FE custom mounts too?
>>2790345
because Fuji already piggy backed off of Nikon's mount.. and that's even after the whole koda/Canon koda/Nikon crap.
>>2790374
I think technically that makes them second party, but whatever. No matter how you slice it, sigma is fucking up.
>>2790390
Sigma is fucking up for pushing its own mount and lenses?
That's pretty much what every other company is doing, sempai.
>>2790461
those companies have more glass available
now if you want to switch, buy the body, and brand new lenses, you're out big money and you still won't have the selection available to other mounts
They should have just gone micro four thirds. I'd take the dip in image quality from the smaller format if it meant I could use half decent lenses on a foveon sensor. I wonder if they tried to convince Sony to let them use their mount?
>>2790461
The vast majority of their lenses are in other mounts though...
Where's the reward for the loyal customer that forked over a grand for a 50 1.4?
And yeah, pushing their proprietary mount is what everyone else does, but that's why it's so myopic and misguided. Foveon sensors are too niche and limited.
>>2790461
If you're going to force people into your ecosystem, your camera can't be a crazy abomination with limited functionality. If this could mount EF lenses (or whatever) then someone could pick it up as a supplement for when they need it, but if I've got $5000 in Nikon gear, I'm not going to also get this, plus the lenses for it, and I'm certainly not going to trade FROM Nikon to get this thing, and I can't think of the type of photographer that would find that to be a good trade.
>>2790461
I own three Sigma Art lenses. Guess how many of them are Sigma mount?
>>2790490
Well if you got $5000 in Nikon gear it wouldn't make it better that it took EF lenses would it now?
There isn't one optimal mount to choose that would satisfy everyone, so it seems like a good choice to go with their own mount.
Also why fuck over the few people that brought earlier sigma cameras?
>>2790497
>If you're going to force people into your ecosystem, your camera can't be a crazy abomination with limited functionality
Nikon has a fantastic variety of versatile bodies, and an enormous stable of lenses. Sigma has none of the former, and a weak attempt at the latter.
>>2790345
sigma makes cameras.
they are first party now, nig nog.
>>2790461
what sigma should have done was, make a new mirrorless mount and push their adapters.
because the new mount is short, you can adapt anything.
in time, chinks will make an adapter for it.
>>2790345
Epson(Voigtlander/Cosina) did it first.
>>2790509
Reverse engineer PDAF functionalty for Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony and release adapters along with the bodies. Charge $250 for each one, so you can buy the one that matches your lenses.
This is why I love Sigma. They're a privately owned, family company that can do whatever the fuck they please, even create absurdly specialized cameras like this one. It may not be a quick route to mass success, but it's a way to become something of a photography legend.
Personally my interest in Sigma Foveon cameras was reduced heavily after they decided to reduce the resolution of the 2 other color layers. Having three color layers with the same resolution was the whole point.
>>2790542
I enjoyed reading this. And I wish baby Sigma CEO the best.
>>2790530
I think there's patents on the brand-specific variations of the technology preventing fully functional cross-brand adapters.
But maybe patents aren't an issue for a mount that just moves the lens forwards and backwards so that people can compete with whoever is making the M mount to E mount AF adapter.
>>2790543
You can still buy a few Merrill cameras
>>2790509
Sony almost did just that.
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>>2790542
t. sigma
>>2790604
t. newfag
>>2790604
t. redditor
The true quality of foveon can't be seen in jpgs they produce, it's in prints that it really shines above all Bayer sensors. Pity people don't print their photos anymore.
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>>2790598
>W and T switch on shutter
>two hot shoes
>weird silver gyroscope thing
????
>>2790620
So noisy, even at ISO 100. That sky looks like a painting (in a bad way) and the roofs are noisy as hell. Did you push the exposure in post? or was it just mad about the long(ish) exposure?
>>2790598
two hotshoes?
>>2790286
What other lens mount would Pentax use?
Keep in mind that the K mount can mount ANY pentax lens. And seeing as it's a pentax camera, most people buying it would be pentax users who already have lenses.
Or should they have made an entirely new one, which would be completely useless for anyone who already has pentax lenses.
>>2790623
Complete darkness
>>2790623
just looks heavily compressed imo
>>2790543
this desu
>tfw you'll never have a compact merrill p&s with sigma art zoom lens and good high iso
>>2790620
>it captures all colors, and then randomly spreads them around the image
good fucking job sigma
oh wow this meme sensor makes garbage resolution too
>>2790634
If it was complete darkness, then how is there a photo...
>>2790736
Well if it was around 1000 pixels he could have had a much higher quality image. Seems like a pretty obvious solution.
>>2790725
That's how good the camera is.
>>2790622
As weird as the two hotshoes are, the W-T dial just doesn't make any sense.
>>2790604
typical
>>2790620
pity that isn't a good photo, but i agree about prints.
>>2790725
Foveon magic
>>2790530
Sigma ALREADY MAKES a PDAF-capable Canon-to-Sony adapter.