Sup /p/, I got two 8mm cameras, one is a Bell and Howell Model 430, and the other is a Chinon Zoom 8. Neither of them work, Bell battery compartment is rekt and Chinon just won't turn even after I resolder all the wires inside, nothing. There are no real deep info about these camera on google so came here to the good old place of 4chan to discuss the faith of these oldie. I really have to no clue what to do with them, my only option that I am thinking is to remove the lens and use them on my other 35mm cameras. What do you think, it's all up to you, and yes I will keep updating.
The lenses aren't gonna do you much good on 35mm, since they only cover an 8mm frame.
However, I like the idea of trying to reuse them. Are they permanently fixed or C-mount? You can get adapters for M4/3, and they have somewhat decent coverage there, or, even better, you might be able to rig them onto a tiny sensor mirrorless camera like a Pentax Q or maybe a Nikon 1.
>>2767281
your idea is not bad at all, but I have no clue on that, I'm going to disassemble the two and see if they are c mount. In the mean time, keep throwing out more suggestion, I like em.
here are some close up of the lenses so I can give you all more ideas.
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Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make NIKON CORPORATION Camera Model NIKON D3100 Camera Software Ver.1.01 Maximum Lens Aperture f/4.8 Sensing Method One-Chip Color Area Color Filter Array Pattern 848 Focal Length (35mm Equiv) 48 mm Image-Specific Properties: Image Orientation Top, Left-Hand Horizontal Resolution 300 dpi Vertical Resolution 300 dpi Image Created 2016:02:12 17:53:05 Exposure Time 1.3 sec F-Number f/4.8 Exposure Program Normal Program ISO Speed Rating 200 Exposure Bias 0 EV Metering Mode Pattern Light Source Unknown Flash No Flash Focal Length 32.00 mm Color Space Information sRGB Image Width 4608 Image Height 3072 Rendering Normal Exposure Mode Auto Scene Capture Type Standard Gain Control None Contrast Normal Saturation Normal Sharpness Normal Subject Distance Range Unknown ISO Speed Used 200 Image Quality FINE White Balance AUTO Focus Mode AF-A Flash Setting NORMAL Flash Compensation 0.0 EV ISO Speed Requested 200 Flash Bracket Compensation 0.0 EV AE Bracket Compensation 162111488.0 EV Lens Type Nikon G Series Lens Range 18.0 - 55.0 mm; f/3.5 - f/5.6 Shooting/Bracketing Mode Timer/Off Noise Reduction OFF Camera Actuations 5396
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Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make NIKON CORPORATION Camera Model NIKON D3100 Camera Software Ver.1.01 Maximum Lens Aperture f/4.8 Sensing Method One-Chip Color Area Color Filter Array Pattern 848 Focal Length (35mm Equiv) 48 mm Image-Specific Properties: Image Orientation Top, Left-Hand Horizontal Resolution 300 dpi Vertical Resolution 300 dpi Image Created 2016:02:12 17:52:26 Exposure Time 5 sec F-Number f/4.8 Exposure Program Normal Program ISO Speed Rating 200 Exposure Bias 0 EV Metering Mode Pattern Light Source Unknown Flash No Flash Focal Length 32.00 mm Color Space Information sRGB Image Width 4608 Image Height 3072 Rendering Normal Exposure Mode Auto Scene Capture Type Standard Gain Control None Contrast Normal Saturation Normal Sharpness Normal Subject Distance Range Unknown ISO Speed Used 200 Image Quality FINE White Balance AUTO Focus Mode AF-A Flash Setting NORMAL Flash Compensation 0.0 EV ISO Speed Requested 200 Flash Bracket Compensation 0.0 EV AE Bracket Compensation 162111488.0 EV Lens Type Nikon G Series Lens Range 18.0 - 55.0 mm; f/3.5 - f/5.6 Shooting/Bracketing Mode Timer/Off Noise Reduction OFF Camera Actuations 5394
>>2767221
just use your phone.
>>2767436
We all know that's too dam easy to do
>>2767439
Fine Eddy, I'll read my sticky notes, here have a quarter and get yourself a jawbreaker.
>>2767221
I've taken lots of super 8 cameras apart. I was experimenting with optics at college.
Usually the lenses are not a removable "module" but a zoom/focusing part and another tiny lens arrangment built into the body.
Looking at the cameras they should have lots of tiny lenses, mirrors, prisms and maybe a beam splitter in the viewfinder assembly.
Take them to bits. It's fun.
Update: I have completely taken apart the Chinon Zoom 8 and obtained its reflex zoom lens. It was a major pain in the ass but I pulled through. The lens is F:1.8 and f=9.5~30mm. Imma test it on my sony cybershot cam and see wassup.
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Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make SONY Camera Model DSC-W70 Maximum Lens Aperture f/2.8 Image-Specific Properties: Image Orientation Top, Left-Hand Horizontal Resolution 72 dpi Vertical Resolution 72 dpi Image Created 2016:02:15 08:35:25 Exposure Time 1/20 sec F-Number f/2.8 Exposure Program Normal Program ISO Speed Rating 320 Exposure Bias 0 EV Metering Mode Pattern Light Source Unknown Flash No Flash, Compulsory Focal Length 6.30 mm Color Space Information sRGB Image Width 3072 Image Height 2304 Rendering Normal Exposure Mode Auto White Balance Auto Scene Capture Type Standard Contrast Normal Saturation Normal Sharpness Normal
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I don't know what I'm gonna do with the other 8mm, what do you all think I should do, you decide.
>>2768912
Take it to bits more you pussy!
You have barely scratched the surface.
I have an old autoload bell and howell myself but was never sure whether to try and get it to work or chuck it. Maybe I should dismantle it?
>>2769130
You should, unless it does work, but honestly in this day in age, unless your a super rich hipster, 8mm is a bitch to use and very expensive to develop, but I can tell you this. The bell and howell is SOOOO much easier to take apart than the chinon. Give it a try.
this lens is not that bad, imma see if I can pop the small lens in the front to expand the image.
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>>2768958
How "rekt" is the battery compartment? Leaked alkaline battery electrolyte is water soluble and pretty easy to clean.
You said about the battery compartment, could we have a look at it?
>>2770572
Sure, let me just finish up my college hw and i'll send the pic, but for now just a heads up, the Chinon is very clean, but the Bell and Howell is pretty rekt.
>>2770565
Thanks, imma now try it out now with an iPhone 4s that I found to see if their's anything different
>>2770334
The Chinon looks perfectly fine.
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>>2770334
but the bell and howell is pretty rekt, so rekt in fact that its completely rusted and missing a spring
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>>2770334
and if your wondering, yes I've tired SO MUCH trying to unscrew it but as you can see the screw is awfully messed up too.
alright everybody of /p/, the Chinon lens is great but it only shoot close shots now, I don't mind since the two cameras are already broken, I might use it as a prop for a mask I'm making. Anyways, I still have the shell of the bell and howell, still don't want what to do with it, again, you decide /p/.
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Overall, Chinon lens was great, takes good clear hold pictures, may use it as a eye piece for a mask and the bell and howell will be used a prop. Thanks /p/ for tuning in.
