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GEAR THREAD
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Is there a way to connect iPad to a Canon DSLR through USB to use to control exposure and/or view photos? Can iPad view RAWs?
What are /p/'s thoughts on the Minolta XK?
>>2726264
The same as everyone elses.
It was a fucking anachronism when it was released. But hey, if you want to shoot the worst legacy system's lenses on an xbox hueg camera that needs you to hold down a dead man switch on the front of the body to meter, then it's probably the camera for you...
Are battery grips gay? I'm arguing with a friend who swears by them, and I figure just having a few spare batteries and spending the extra 10 seconds to swap em out. Also I mainly use a 50mm so having a grip would probably make it look retarded. and I have smallish hands as well. But I do think they make a camera look more professional.
Do you us a grip?
using a grip with a small lens is one of the best ways to shoot. it's so easy to manipulate the camera that way. also, having a grip not only means that in most situations you can bring no extra batteries, but with a well designed grip you can change two batteries faster than you can change one without.
I think you're an idiot for knocking something based primarily on looks and 'figuring' without having actually tried it.
>>2726252
What's the cheapest canon gear to take pictures like this (I just don't wanna end up buying something with more options than what I need)
Most of my pics will be in low light at night time with no flash taken by hand (no tripod) for mostly still objects at 10 miters with blur in the foreground/background.
Apparently even the best most expensive smartphone sucks at taking night pictures with no flash.
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>>2726298
I want a grip. Not so much for the extra battery life, although that is also nice. It's actually the grip that makes me want to have it. I want the best possible grip when shooting vertical photos like portraits or street.
>>2726298
Grips are not a fashion accessory. That is not the point. You use it when you need it for your shooting. If you don't need it, don't get it. I personally always use them because I like having longer battery life without swapping, and I love having a portrait oriented shutter release and the additional controls. It also makes the balance of the camera a lot better with larger lenses, especially on smaller cameras.
>>2726304
a rabel and a 50 1/8 II
>>2726304
why canon?
Nikon d7000 + 35mm 1.8 dx.
Canon 50/60d + 35mm efs (they have that, right?)
>>2726303
I also use a sling strap and connect it to the tripod mount, so I'm hesitant if it's bouncing around at my hip with a weaker attachment on it.
>>2726312
the connection between any mfg grip and the camera is many times stronger than that of your standard, probably plastic-mounted body tripod socket.
>>2726314
It's the tripod socket itself that fails, and in that regard, it is no more or less secure than a tripod plate, in that the grip literally just screws into the tripod socket. It's the same. There is no additional support.
>>2726318
I don't know what grips you (don't) own, but all Pentax grips grip the camera body on the sides, preventing any rotational or translational movement at all. this allows the grip to brace itself to the magnesium alloy case, which is attached to the steel frame.
>>2726310
Thanks!
just checked and the Canon 50d is actually very affordable and costs half the price of the other two, but will there be a huge quality difference between them?
I can buy the Nikon d7000 that costs twice the price but as I said if the images of the Canon 50d are good then there's no need to pay more...
forgot to mention that sometimes where I live there's a very strong moonlight and I would love if the camera can take some shots like pic related, can the 50d do it or should I just spend more cash on a 60d/d7000?
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>>2726320
Canon and Fuji grips don't do that.
>>2726334
the canon 50d will have more grain in the photos. only the newest cameras will take that picture hand held. I can't recommend a tripod enough for your uses, but if you insist, the d7000 will have the best night pictures hand held, or even a d7100 will be even better. (but still grainy)
>>2726342
thanks
>>2726304
Canon 350D and some old M42 50/1,8 lenses,
>>2726334
Doing handheld evening shots with 50D and Sigma 30/1.4
50D is exelent machine, i like him!
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>>2726348
>>2726348
>Canon 350D
now this is affordable! I just found a used one that costs a little more than 100 bucks (pic exactly related)... I mean $100 just for a start is fucking amazing then if I'm not satisfied I can still re-sell it for less and buy something better.
A last question before buying it tomorrow , (don't hate me, man) would pic related perform better than an iphone 6s plus or the note 5 at night without a tripod?
>>2726310
No, they don't have a 35mm efs, they have a couple of overpriced 35mm f/2s, one without USM, and one that's $600 and has IS
is the nikon d3300 gud? i just bought one but got my bonus in later today and i was thinking of going up a price bracket
>>2726387
Get an X-T10 and 18-55
>>2726388
explain pls
>>2726367
>Canon 350D
Check the exif of your original photo; the 350D doesn't even go to ISO6400 (you might need it for the conditions you mentioned).
>>2726392
it is better.
Any one got experience with the canon 24mm pancake?
Buying one today.
>>2726298
>debating a piece of gear based off how it makes you look
If you don't know whether or not you want a battery grip, you don't take enough pictures to worry about it.
>>2726253
bump
pls help
>>2726414
I guess I made it sound like it was only for the look. my main hesitation is I use a tripod mount strap, and threading that into a grip which is then threaded onto the body seems like more of a weak spot.
>>2726382
how does canon claim to have the best lens selection? how? such a fucking simple and essential lens to have
>>2726461
What's wrong with the 35 f/2? Just because it also works on full frame, it doesn't count? Strange that a manufacturer would be knocked for a robust upgrade path. how's your Pentax treating you?
Should I buy a brand new t3i rebel for half the price, or should I save for money and buy another camera?
Never had a camera before, looking for some entry-level gear...
Yup, that's your entry-level gear. Does it come with a lens?
Nikon and Canon lenses aren't interchangeable, so get the camera thinking on the lenses. Maybe if you have close relatives that have Nikon lenses, go Nikon.
>>2726253
>Is there a way to connect iPad to a Canon DSLR through USB to use to control exposure and/or view photos? Can iPad view RAWs?
would like to know too, not sure about anon but I have a 5DM2
>>2726408
It's good for its price. post photos later.
Even so, when you get it, just slap it on your camera and do some street shooting on your way home.
>>2726466
I always loved how Canikon gets randomly assblasted by Pentax.
>>2726466
$99 vs $600, anon. think about it.
>>2726550
Eh Canon is still objectively better
>>2726560
>Nikon has 35mm 1.8 for crop
>Nikon also has 35mm 1.8 for full frame
>Canon only had a 35mm f2 for full frame
>less options, more expensive than both Nikon's combined, and only mates to garbage canon sensors
>defending canon at all
you must be new here.
>>2726562
>you must be new here.
You have pride in being autisticaIIy stuck here for years?
>Being this mad new peopIe come to this site because they have Iives
How sad of you IoI
>>2726562
>what is 35 1.4L
>implying halfstops mean anything
I have a question that I really can't find a way to answer. I want to buy a new camera, smaller than a DSLR. Now I'm between the Fuji XPro-1 and the Panasonic GX7. Which one would you buy and why?
>>2726572
A DSLR because it's not a toy camera.
>>2726572
Ricoh GR
because Ricoh GR
I just got the Canon T5 Rebel. I'm taking a digital photography class next semester so I'll learn the basics. Is it a good camera for a beginner that is going to learn the basics?
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>>2726576
Yes.
>>2726576
yep, cetainly for a beginner.
>>2726576
First thing you need to learn is how not have the flash pop up every time.
>>2726570
>What is 35 1.4 L
>What is Nikkor 35 1.4
Nice try
>>2726567
>Admits to being new but is enough of a gumptionette queen to post like he's tough stuff
I always enjoy new users. I don't enjoy the fucking 16 year old babby's first camera Christmas crowd. Lurk.
>>2726568
Crop vs Crop budget cameras and lenses are more relevant at this time of year than ever. I'd like to get it out of the way as quickly and accurately as possible, as it's entirely inevitable.
Anyone here use an α6000? I shoot a rabal right now, have a few lenses and was thinking about upgrading to a 60D, maybe 7D. Noticed the impressive specs on these a6k's. Are Sony cams complete shit houses? How's the support from Sony, anything like PS shit support?
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>>2726617
what
>>2726617
People here are using a6000, yes. Not sure what you're asking, though.
And I did not try Sony's support yet.
>>2726572
Still looking for opinions, thanks.
>>2726392
D3300 is a good camera to learn on. There's nothing wrong with it.
my yongnuo yn600 and radio transmitter arrived today
first impressions are good
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I'll just leave this here http://yannickkhong.com/blog/2015/10/4/the-flattening-of-modern-lenses-or-the-death-of-3d-pop
What do you guys think of the Pentax K-50? I'm hoping to get one with kit lens for $300 if it ever goes cheaper than it is now.
Also, any recommended lenses for it?
>>2726252
That ain't Pentax
>>2726665
i don't see it and don't know what the fuck he/she is talking about.
Looking for a lenses that produce a "vintage" look for canon EOS cameras. Specifically 35mm. Any suggestions? I heard some older Zeiss can produce that sort of look. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>2726731
just vsco mang
Hi guys, thinking of getting a gift for my girlfriend for Christmas. My budget is $500. The most important factor is the availability to take a 'selfie'. Not sure what you call that but you're able to slide the screen to face you ?
Thanks /p/
>>2726742
Sony A5100
>>2726548
Sorry I took a while, had to catch the train into the city to get it.
Took it around the street and I was very happy with the lens, but it not hard to please me, all my lenses are old manuals.
I shot mostly at 2.8 to see its performance wide open and I'm very pleased with the lack of chromatic aberration.
Falloff is not too bad wide open but better at f4.
Overall very pleased with my purchase!
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>>2726731
Try the Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f/2.4.
Another option would be the Contax Distagon 35mm f2.8. The f/1.4 is fucking expensive.
If you want f1.4 cheap (relative), try the Nikon 35mm f1.4 AI-s.
Then there's the russian Mir-1B, which is a flektogon copy and goes for dirt, but is f2.8.
>>2726722
IMO, yes to both. The camera is a lot better than a Rebel and IMO even a 60D. But you probably want a sufficient budget to buy some good native lenses.
If you want to work with adapted Canon lenses, you're better off with an A7R II or A7 II.
What's your opinions on the smc da 18-135 for pentax cameras?
All the reviews I read are horrible but people who use it say it's a great lens and reviewers are just too harsh.
>>2726568
>You are definitely new
And? StiII jeaIous of someone who spent aII these years outside and on other sites? IoI
>stfu and keep your emotions at 9fag
Confirmed mad, how many times can you say fag? IoI stay butthurt :^)
Everyone seems to love fast primes. "You'll shoot better in low light," they say. That's okay as an practical observation, but photos are not exclusively practical. Large apertures result in exaggerated and useless bokeh. People ignore it because "muh professional-looking bow-key". They should not. 99.99% of the time it is abused by people who do not know how to use bokeh in a convincing way, who should rather use a higher aperture.
A photo full of massive f/1.4 bokeh is basically a photo that should have been shot at a smaller aperture or have 90% of its contents cropped off. Bokeh has no story to tell, nothing of value to give. It's a gimmick. Stop smearing your great photos with blotches of color that do not belong there.
These huge apertures do not really enhance "photo legibility". Smaller apertures like f/3.5-5.6 blur out the background quite sufficiently. Most people should have bought speedlights and ring flashes rather than replacing their kit lens as the first thing they do.
If you want "natural" light, then don't be out shooting once the sun has gone down. EVERYTHING outside at night is artificial, incadescent, fluorescent light — fixed-position flashes that never turn off. Look at night scenes in movies. They're evenly lit because a TON of light equipment has been used, allowing people to expose exactly as they want with minimal noise, not because of a fast aperture. Create your own lighting when you don't have it. It's almost always better.
What's that? You want to be "discrete"? Before even thinking about that, why don't you lug around something else than a huge camera with loud shutter noises, and why don't you reconsider whether discretion is really needed or it's just your useless beta personality misunderstanding the situation. Take a clue from Bruce Gilden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM
Unless you want to snipe sports photos or wildlife, first buy stuff and learn to create your desired light. >:|
>>2726978
Heh. It's cute you think you know shit.
>>2726981
Heh. It's cute you think he's wrong.
I'm looking at getting a used 5d and there are almost no local shops around. Do you guys have suggestions on where to look outside of ebay, keh, craigslist?
>>2726981
It's cute that you think he's more wrong than right.
a wider aperture doesn't do anything for quality of light, or color, and you end up looking at a blurry photo because new photographers are still excited about bokeh after getting Baby's first camera.
The most successful photos have an environment for which the subject to relate.
Bokeh in an empty alley is great looking to people looking for "Wow, my cell phone can't do that!" but artistically, it's trash.
>>2726978
Fast aperture lenses and high-sensitivity cameras make shooting at night work just fine.
Natural light is not a requirement, and bringing your own light increasingly isn't necessary anymore either.
Also, bokeh looks just fine.
>>2726984
amazon used.
What's wrong with ebay, keh, and craigslist?
>>2726987
Nothing I just like comparison shopping with as many options as possible
>>2726978
I like fast primes because they're relatively lightweight and/or compact while retaining high quality and I like framing with my legs. Bokeh is fun but it's just a secondary effect of having more light to work with.
Your part about natural light is bullshit m8, and you know it. It's not sun light, but your mind perceives it as "natural light" because it's light that we're used to. Freezing people with a flashlight has a totally different feeling - it's not worse or better, but it is different.
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>>2726986
>Also, bokeh looks just fine.
Whether it's fine or not is a matter of taste. What isn't is the fact that blurring your background away dramatically changes the photo, and strongly weakens the power of a subject in its environment. To most experienced photographers trying to make compelling images, it's a sign that the artist couldn't be bothered to find a worthy setting for the image, and just said "fuck it, who needs it anyway" out of laziness.
>>2726992
>literally a picture of nothing
>a bunch of talk about how the mind perceives light that is not rooted in science and directly contradicts it
>"a totally different feeling"
If you create a feeling that is "unnatural", then you are using your flash wrong. That's probably the first thing to fix, other than taking pictures like the one you just uploaded. It's exactly like >>2726994 said. Too much "fuck it, who needs it anyway" to actually do a good job.
>>2726999
>literally a picture of nothing
trim those edges and maybe your opinion will be worth shit, m8.
Flash will always be slightly unnatural. The human eye is not used to instant flashing light being blocked like that. That's the whole point of flash.
Any way to turn off the focusing assistance light on the Ricoh GR II? I don't want it to go on in people's faces when I use it for street.
>>2726994
Sure, with portraits and product shots and art photography and pornography and so on, you think about the environment, and it can be part of your job to prepare lights and all that.
But if you do travel or sports or interviews or journalistic or street or weddings or events or whatever such shooting situation that is time-critical, you generally open up that lens until you have little risk of getting a blurry shot, and shoot in quick succession.
And that might be f/1.4 or f/1.2 or whatever. And you want a lens that isn't shit when you do it.
>>2727002
And does that look natural to your eye, you dipshit? It's a fucking studio shot, if you can't see its a studio shot done with flash lighting you have no business talking about light.
As I said
>t's not worse or better, but it is different.
So stop acting like a cunt if some people want to work with natural lighting instead of flashlights in a studio.
>>2726999
>If you create a feeling that is "unnatural", then you are using your flash wrong.
This
>>2727011
If you're using a flash and you're not using it to get a better exposure than what you'd get by using natural lighting, you're doing it wrong.
If you're getting a better exposure, it means theres something different that a trained eye will pick up.
So, lets all claim that doing street photography is idiotic and you should only use trained models, because that's what you guys are claiming: don't use natural lighting, use flash lighting so you're always in charge of finely tuning the light. Guess what? Some people want to work with the real world without modifying it. It applies to light, it applies to models, everything. Everyone has his own preferences.
Was Helmut Newton fucking stupid for using natural light for this shot? Because seems like that's what you people are implying.
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>>2727007
Of course it does. I can produce the exact same image with fire, outside. "Studio" or not has nothing to do with the point. Now you're just saying that "natural light" = light that is randomly placed all over the scene... but people compensate for that by composing their photos. This has noting to do with the quality of the light itself, and you would easily be able to do the same picture using a bonfire or whatever the fuck that isn't a flash per se.
Way to miss my point.
>>2727005
Nope. You see photojournalists with flashes ALL THE FUCKING TIME, unless they are war photographers somewhere in the Middle East. This includes interviews. There's no need to be discrete when interviewing, so they aren't. This includes street photos. They often shoot things where it'd be expected that they'd show up. And wedding photographers, too, use flash ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Do you ever go outside or open a newspaper or are you just pretending to be this uninformed?
Also, the guy further up who was all "primes are lightweight".... what the fuck, /p/. I don't even.
>>2727018
>and you would easily be able to do the same picture using a bonfire or whatever
Alright you know jack shit about the qualities of light sources. Lets move on before you embarass yourself further.
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>>2726985
I never said that. I will say he is dogmaticly repeating what others have drilled into him without understanding in the slightest the underlying aesthetics.
>>2727016
really like this pic m8
>>2727018
Of course you also use flashes when appropriate. Never said not to carry one. Hell, if the interview is important enough and can't happen in a location where you have 15-30 minutes to set up, you bring 1-2 people along to hold extra lights.
You still need the fast lens a lot. But if you can do without, fine.
>>2727023
>hurr durr my arrogance gets in the way of having a clue
No problem, enjoy your splotchy snapshits and incompetent use of light.
>>2727025
>I'm the king of aesthetics zomg
You know, you know an awful lot about strangers on the internet. You know cause and intention behind what I say. Impressive. Impressive self-deceit, that is :D
My point still stands, though. Strawmen and really bad counter-arguments do nothing to change this. In most cases, people would be MUCH BETTER OFF learning how to use a flash well than taking snapshits in the street at f/1.4 with a heavy prime (weight compared to the kit lens). And yes, the flash is very much used in the field because it belongs there. You get a better quality of photos than "muh blur" and idiotic unqualified ideas of how artificial light is "natural" compared to flashes and unsubstantiated claims of how "light source qualities" work.
It's not that hard. Learn to use your flash well.
>>2727030
You can do with much, muuuuch less than 1-2 people to hold extra lights. I saw the Minister of Defense in my country not long ago being interviewed at an event while the light was completely off. The guy shooting simply had this huge, nice diffuse lightbox mounted on top of his camera and a fill light he held to the side while holding the camera one handed.
I saw the footage on tv, too, looked great. No feeling of flash whatsoever, was a nice, natural-looking warm light as though indoor lighting had been on.
We don't need to stoop down to "muh prime" as often as beginners online think we do. That's been my point from the beginning.
>>2727032
Are you the "Canon is better" from 9fag above, fag?
Because your wording and immature nonsense tells a lot about you.
>>2727032
I'll try to be short maybe you'll get it:
>In most cases, people would be MUCH BETTER OFF learning how to use a flash well than taking snapshits in the street at f/1.4 with a heavy prime
It works the other way around. In most cases people would be much better off learning how to shoot with avaivable lighting rather than messing around with flashlights before they truly understood how light works.
What you're talking about makes no sense. You're better off just saying "people should learn how light works instead of relying on flashes or fast primes as crutches instead of tools to enhance their vision".
I hope you'll get it.
$1700 rumored price...
>>2726978
what? I use fast primes because I mainly shoot film and the faster the lens mean a much brighter viewfinder which means much easier focusing. I cannot focus a lens with my viewing screen with a f/5.6 lens unless I change the focusing screen to something that doesn't have a split rangefinder on it.
>Lol @ you
>>2726975
When did I say I was jealous? Lmao now you can't comprehend English. This is why 9fags are disliked.
> people are mad if they say fag.
But it was my first reply anon :^<
>>2726977
the fuck are you on about?
all you do is spread faggotry. Go troll /b/ or /g/, can't take photos anyway. I bet you're Chinese or some shit
>>2727058
sounds like you have a terrible camera
why not just buy a mirrorless?
PLS RESPOND
>>2726510
>>2727058
>using stop down cameras in 2015
>Thinking you're relevant to the conversation
>>2726510
The t3i (600d, right?) is a good camera, but really I think all entry reflex cameras aren't that good of an idea compared to the current generation of same-price mirrorless cameras.
In the end what matters more is the lens, not the camera, so I'd say just go for it and use it as a learning tool, don't commit to a brand right now, just experiment and make up your mind.
>>2727087
It's tough to beat the price, but it's easy to beat the camera. It's pretty much the lowest image quality you can get in a DSLR today. Look for used Penax, used D7000, or an X-E1/X-E2
>>2727032
You can't read well, can you? I never said shit about your motivations. I said you're a parrot repeating shit you've heard without understanding it. The more you post, the more this becomes clear as you cleave tight to this one way of thinking that you were taught...and just the surface level at that.
You're like the kid who thinks he knows all about math because he knows a negative times a negative is a positive but he doesn't know why it is true out how in cases it can be untrue.
You need to let go of dogma and actually learn.
>>2727096
You're the one that can't read if you don't notice he's qualifying his statements with "most" and "many" and such words.
Yeah, dude, like 1 in 100 people that bokehwhores does so with intent. Big deal. His point is still highly relevant, and highly true for most of /p/.
>>2727093
A D7000 is a better option, yes.
I'd rule off Pentax because it's a niche brand and if you're new and experimenting the lack of cheap easy to get glass will kill your fun - with the t3i you can snag off a yongnuo 35mm f/2 and just fuck around.
And I'd rule off the X-E1 because the EVF is atrocious and if you're learning it'll be a problem, while dunno about the X-E2 but with Fuji in general you're committing to a system with good glass but it's all expensive as hell, so again, worse as a learning tool.
Maybe a Sony A6000.
>>2727096
>you cleave tight to this one way of thinking that you were taught.
You're just as obvious with your "I'm breaking the rules" way of thinking. Bokeh is lazy, 100% of the time. People like it because they can't do it, and they think it looks "pro" not because it is a good way to achieve the photo you're looking to make.
Subject separation will always be better achieved through light, color, texture, size, perspective, etc. Blurring out the image is literally saying "I don't like a large portion of what's in this photo, and I can't be bothered to change any of it or move"
It's buying a gift basket in order to get at the small packet of goldfish, and throwing everything else away.
You can say "But I like it! And a lot of my friends like it! Why would it be so popular if it didn't look good!" but it doesn't change anything. It's the mark of a beginner, and it's objectively a lazy way to take photos.
>>2726510
if you can, but a used full frame, so you won't have to buy another camera for a few years while practice and so small gigs.
I got my 5DM2 at NZD1100 So you should be okay with finding a similar priced camera. And buy 2 primes, 24 and 50.
OR
yea t3i is fine too with a kit lens/cheaper zooms (or primes) if you really wanna save money.
>>2727097
>His point is still highly relevant, and highly true for most of /p/.
About as relevant as people picking up a flash "because its dark outside", which is the single biggest mistake in flash lighting use, and about as common as "lol bokeh because bokeh is cool".
Which is to say, he's talking about a problem that has nothing to do with fast glass per se, but with ignorance when it comes to managing light and composing.
>>2727102
>if you can, but a used full frame, so you won't have to buy another camera for a few years
If he's looking to get a T3i, for half off, he's not affording a full frame camera worth having, nor the lenses it will require.
>>2727103
>About as relevant as people picking up a flash "because its dark outside", which is the single biggest mistake in flash lighting use
You're an idiot nor worthy of argument.
He's not trashing your fast glass, he's saying most people have poor priorities and go after fast glass immediately because they think they should. And that happens constantly, on every photography forum, in every photography group.
Stop being an autistic faggot, you autistic faggot.
>>2727107
And I said that there's an equal amount of people going for flashes because they think they should, and that happens constantly, on every photography forum, in ever photography group.
Stop being an autistic faggot, you autistic faggot.
>>2727098
>because the EVF is atrocious
"Ive never used this camera, but I've read a lot of reviews about it written this year, comparing it to brand new technology, so I know a lot about it you could say"
>worse as a learning tool
I'd argue any camera with well labeled full stop transitions (i.e. aperture rings and shutter speed dials) is an excellent learning tool. Especially if its digital *and* has those things. You can visualize "7 stops overexposed" a lot easier.
>>2727105
no well, a t3i brand new from store goes for $1000ish here. And that compared to the price I bought my ff for, is pretty close. and EF lenses I'm sure are cheaper, like 501.8 or a cheap zoom so for learning and for the long run, it'll be cheaper
>>2727110
>Stop being an autistic faggot, you autistic faggot.
I'm not the one having an argument with a guy over something I generally agree with, but prefer to word differently.
Asspained aspie.
>>2727101
>You're just as obvious with your "I'm breaking the rules" way of thinking.
Where did I say that? I'm saying understand the underlying principles the rules are derived from. Don't just parrot the rules themselves.
You too have an issue with reading because not one have I actually disagreed with what he said. I'm just pointing out that he doesn't know shit about why things are as they are and needs to get of his high horse.
>>2727112
>"Ive never used this camera...
As a matter of fact I've used it. It lags horribly indoors. I'd rather have the optical VF of my old 450d, even if it was a dim piece of shit, rather than an incredibly laggy and noisy EVF like that one.
>I'd argue any camera with well labeled full stop transitions...
what the fuck m8
that shit you can learn on a book, you don't even need a camera. Fuji even lies on its real ISO so that's another problem.
Canon or Nikon is a good choice for a beginner because you can experiment with a lot of glass and, since everyone and his dog has one, you'll easily find new glass or resell your shit if you suddenly want to switch over to Fuji.
Fuji is, in my experience, a bit of an aquired taste. Once you know your shit you might want to switch to Fuji, I met a lot of people that made that choice, and I love Fuji cameras. But I don't see them as a good starting point.
>>2727120
>. It lags horribly indoors.
what? No you idiot, it lags at high ISO. Do you know ANYTHING about cameras?
>>2727120
>that shit you can learn on a book, you don't even need a camera. Fuji even lies on its real ISO so that's another problem.
Everyone lies on ISO. NO camera has ISO that conforms strictly to the old film standards. Fuji's also don't actually 'lie' about ISO, they just have a different default curve that gives the impression.
And you learn things in books, not on them. Idiot.
Labeled dials are a nice learning tool for real world practice. Two firm clicks of a dial are much more tangible than two soft divits in a thumb wheel that can only be seen via a screen or the viewfinder, and which cannot be set when the camera is powered off.
It's a good starting point for people that wish to actually learn. Some people just want gadgets, not to learn, and you appear to fall in the latter but idealize yourself as a patron of the latter.
>>2727120
>Fuji even lies on its real ISO so that's another problem.
Why on Earth would this be even a little bit of a problem?
>you can experiment with a lot of glass
How many lenses do you think beginners are needing? Sounds like you're a technician.
You don't need a "starter camera" at all. You learn how to use it by reading the manual on the first day, and then you shoot with it. All cameras have shutter speeds, ISO dials, and aperture selection. There's no foreign language to learn, and no crazy technique to master. You turn a knob on a Canon, and you turn a knob on a Fuji.
To learn what focal lengths you want, you use your kit lens. You use an okay kit lens on Canon or Nikon, or you use a fantastic kit lens on a Fuji. Then you decide "Fuck I want more bokeh!" so you get the equivalent of a 50mm prime. On Fuji, you can also adapt any lens you want, and use it perfectly well (especially older manual focus glass, which is much less expensive)
etc etc
Not to mention, what you see is what you get viewfinder being an enormous boon.
>>2727129
>what? No you idiot, it lags at high ISO. Do you know ANYTHING about cameras?
Listen, I tried that fucking camera and it lagged indoors in a well lit home. It also lagged in the shade on the balcony. It didn't feel good, at all.
>Everyone lies on ISO. NO camera has ISO that conforms strictly to the old film standards.
But Fuji lies like a full stop. Not that it matters a lot, anyways.
>>2727130
>How many lenses do you think beginners are needing? Sounds like you're a technician.
When I got my first camera I was on a tight budget and I wanted a cheap fast prime to learn some different stuff that my slow zoom wasn't really good for.
You can literally go out and spend 60€ or less on a 50mm 1.8, with AF. Or slightly more on a 35mm f/2.
Can you do that with Fuji? You're a newbie and want a decent fixed prime to learn composition instead of being lazy with a zoom - what are you options under 150€?
>>2727130
>On Fuji, you can also adapt any lens you want, and use it perfectly well (especially older manual focus glass, which is much less expensive)
put your trip on isi
no one cares about your gay x-tranny leica with old glass
>>2727129
What's this argument about?
>>2727131
>wanted a cheap fast prime to learn some different stuff that my slow zoom wasn't really good for.
Bokeh. You wanted bokeh.
> to learn composition instead of being lazy with a zoom
Here's a tip - just don't zoom your zoom lens. Ta-da, I just saved you 60€ or less on a 50mm 1.8, with AF. Or slightly more on a 35mm f/2.
Those same lenses are easily adapted, but if you want first party, the Fuji 27mm is less than the 35mm for Canon. 18mm for about $350 usd, etc.
>>2727133
You wish everyone who disagreed with you was isi, but it's not the case, I'm sorry.
>>2726572
PLS ;_;
>>2727132
you found brand new, I said used. Buy used, it'll most likely still have 5/6 years of life in it.
Look for either ff cameras USED!!! Look on eBay etc
5DM2
6D
D600
D610
D750
>>2727134
Who the jesus fuck even knows. The goalposts keep flying by. I think it started with a guy asking if a T3i was a good buy, and someone else suggesting better cameras.
>>2727139
For what.
>pictures
Use your cell phone, or be more specific, idiot.
>>2727140
If you can find me a listing for a fully functional semi good condition 5Dmk2 on ebay for a 50% off T3i, I'll buy it for him myself, and then send you $1000 USD.
>>2727141
> The goalposts keep flying by.
I like that phrase, hadn't heard it before. Nice.
>>2727130
This, I agree with this fella. Now stop spreading faggotry. It's a pretty pointless debate.
Any camera is fine for a beginner. Just like any computer is fine for a new programmer or any bed is fine for virgin about to have sex.
Are these good deals?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-E-M1-Body-Black-12-40mm-Black-F2-8-PRO-Lenskit-34-Languages-Selectable-/331711855023?hash=item4d3b9139af
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-Only-Body-Black-34-Languages-Selectable-Wi-Fi-/331711866079?hash=item4d3b9164df
>>2726572
Fuji Xpro1:
Better image quality
Healthy selection of good lenses.
Optical viewfinder
Accurate autofocus with 'iffy' speed
Dedicated dials for most important functions
Panasonic GX7:
Worse image quality
Enormous selection of good lenses.
Annoying flippy viewfinder that doesn't lock into place
Good Video
Very fast, super accurate autofocus
Inferior ergonomics.
>>2727152
No, because no matter how much you pay, someone will still come and deliver a M4/3 camera to your door in 2015, which is never an outcome you want.
>>2727156
>using the "current year" bullshit in your argument
>Treating someone like a child and trying to tell them what they want when it comes to camera gear
>Caring about sensor size as if it were your dick(compensating, maybe?)
>inb4 you spout the same light transmission, because fuck light meters BS that Tony Northrup says
Isn't that what brandfags do?
>>2727155
Thanks
>>2727157
Look up comparable prices on other sites and make your own decision based on the results, you fucking idiot.
>>2727162
keep in mind that dials for everything doesn't mean fast operation nor better ergonomics.
>>2727163
I have, I live in Canada, most of the places are selling the kit for $2000, at least, and the body is selling for $1300. The Canadian prices are about $1600 for the kit and $865 for the body
Are there any tips for iPhone photography?
I'm planning on investing in a real camera in a month or so - Nikon D3200 I think
What does /p/ think Mathieu Gasquet?
>>2727202
He's basically Gordon Laing dedicated to Mirrorless.
I think just like Camera Labs he is one of the few that understand each camera and its features for the review.
I was thinking about getting a cheap cine zoom to practice zooming and focusing on my Lumix G7. has anyone had any experience with the Angenieux 12-120/f2.2 or Meteor 5-1: 17-69mm/ f1.9. Or can somebody recommend a cheap vintage cine zoom (between $100-$500) Cheers.
>>2727218
I really wish pentax would get their shit together in nz so cameralabs could review their stuff again
Especially since dpreview have gone full jew and don't even seen to be bothering to review the k3-ii
>>2727198
Try to stay in brightly lit situations. Try to work on non-camera specific areas while you wait. (Composition, perspective, subject selection)
>>2726978
>everything outside at night is artificial
>what is the moon
>what are stars
How would Ken Rockwell react to the Samsung NX1?
>discontinued in europe
>still $1700 body only
>>2727229
pls donate
>>2727237
Tell him to make a Patreon
>>2726670
I got one a couple weeks ago for like $380 with the 18-55 kit. I dig it, feels great and has a lot of pretty usable on board effects like whatever the hell this one was. I was just taking pictures on my desk to try some different ones out. I also like the multi exposure option. Not sure if most DSLR cams have that onboard or not.
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>>2727220
That Angenieux will be a bitch to adapt because of the mounts it came in originally. Your best bet will be to get an Arri standard mount version, adapt it to PL, and then adapt it to MFT. No adapting option will come cheap, and frankly it's not worth it for that lens. The mechanics are great(though you may have zoom creep in some) but the optics show their age. Just pick up an old vintage stills zoom, it'll be easier to adapt and the basic premise and mechanics will be close enough that you can get away with learning on that. Unless you absolutely need it, vintage cine-zooms don't really offer any tangible advantages for learning to focus and zoom than a comparable stills zoom.
Recommendations for M4/3 holy trinity Primes @ $500 max each?
Lightweight if possible
Manual and/or autofocus
Used and/or new
1. Super wideangle (non-fisheye)
2. Around 28 to 50 FF equiv for street photography
3. Portraiture (head to waist) with a nice bokeh
>>2727479
Con't
I'm thinking of buying the ff:
Pana 14 2.5 or Rokinon 12 2
Pana 25 1.4
Oly 45 1.8 or Sigma 60 2.8
Any other options I should consider?
>>2726575
>Can't buy it in my country, sorry
Buy overseas then, you bloody nignog. How autistic are you?
>>2727479
Oly 45 is a must buy.
Everything else is subjective.
>>2727485
That's also what I'm thinking, Sigma 60 is sharper but I'll buy Oly 45 for the bokeh
So I have a Zenit 11 with the funky Helios they all come with. Bit of a dilemma tho, the focusing screen is a bit meh on the body, it's kinda heavy and clunky and so on. Meter is bleh and shutter speeds only from 1/30 to 1/500. If I get another M42 body, what would be a good bet to use the Helios with? Also, I like wides, so what M42 wides should I try to look for?
>>2727559
Get a Spotmatic. Black if you find one.
This doesn't relate to any conversation in here, but is the right kind of thread to post it in.
Just wanted you to offer you a red pill when it comes to sensor size: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY
There you go. You're free from having this silly discussion again. Enjoy your liberty. You're welcome.
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>>2727566
Fucking spot on.
>>2727566
Where's Tony Northrup when you need an overcomplicated pseudoscientific explanation of crop factor and f-stop equivalence?
>>2727576
NEGLIGIBLE
>>2727578
Exactly. *blowing raspberry*
>>2727566
Good shit
Can we make a list of top-tier analog cameras? People sell lots of old stuff in the Christmas season, and I think that a list of what to look for would benefit everyone.
Case in point, I just got a Nikon F3 from the first production year in excellent condition and some nice vintage F-mount glass for dirt cheap.
[Buying advice needed]
I borrowed my friends 550D 6 weeks ago
They don't use it, I'm in the market for a camera, thus one has SD card, lowepro bag, and the twin kit lenses (18-55, 55-250)
Do I:
Buy it off them for $450-500 AU
Or return it and get a different camera
After a general purpose shooter with some video ability (doesnt seem hard to find), but i like a viewfinder... Sadly stuff like the X-M1 doesnt have one
Plz advise
>>2727593
It's not a terrible camera by any means, but not as good as say, an a6000, or used D7000.
Buying it wouldn't be a mistake, but it wouldn't be the best use of your money either.
>>2727593
Look at the Pentax K-50. At least twice the camera for the same money.
Is there any K-mount to M42 adapter? I only find adapters that are the other way around.
>>2727562
There's a few SP's for sale at a used camera store in my country for about €50, a couple of black ones too. Many of them say "we can't guarantee whether the light meter works" in the description though, do they tend to break or something?
>>2727610
no, there aren't. you would lose infinity focus, by a lot.
Should I get the nikon 50mm f/1.2 for $235?
I only have a aps-c nikon camera, but would like to get a F100 or maybe a F3, where the 50mm focal length will make more sense.
>>2727479
Oly 75
Pana 20
Pana 14
but that's because I like pancakes
>>2727618
They have the same flange focal distance, why would I lose infinity focus?
>>2727589
What does analog camera mean? Any film camera, or only manual focus ones? Manual focus with, at most, aperture priority and TTL flash, or only a meter?
>>2727631
Film.
A couple months ago someone asked which film camera they should buy and someone typed out a list of which cameras to look for, for every manufacturer. I had it saved on my computer, but I lost it.
We could start with SLRs. Basically, anything that isn't trash or a novelty item.
just recieved an olympus om-d em10 mk1 for the holidays as my first nice camera. is this a meme camera? is mirrorless a meme?
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>>2727630
M42 is smaller in diameter than K, that's why the M42 adapter ring fits inside the mount. So a K lens couldn't go inside an M42 mount, and the adapter would have to have a K bayonet socket in front of an M42 screw, it'd be at least a ~7-10mm extension tube.
If all you want is macro you could buy some K and M42 extension tubes and bodge them together if you like.
>>2727621
pls respond ;-;
>>2727651
ok considering i dont understand anything this guy is talking about i have concluded that the camera is not a meme, but i am.
>>2727655
The sensor inside is small, which many photograhers get worked up about, but in reality, it's not as big a deal as its made out to be. If you're shooting in terrible light, you might be disappointed, but if you take the time to learn what you're doing, it's fine for almost anything you could want to do. That's basically what that's saying.
>>2727654
$235 for a 50mm 1.2? Is it in good shape? If so, then it'd be a steal. Get it, it's a great lens.
>>2727659
I'm not sure if its in good shape. The price seems a little iffy, but I can try it out before I buy.
>>2727658
>The sensor inside is small
NEGLIGIBLE
Hey guys, I'm kind of a newfag for photography and I am just doing it as a hobby. My current camera is a Nikon Coolpix L810.
I'm considering buying a DSLR camera. Since I'm really new to photography, do DSLR's also take Videos? I want some HD photos and videos. Also, which DSLR would you recommend for me?
(I like to take timelapse photos, and would like to start taking regular photographs as well as long exposure.)
>>2727667
>timelapse
You will need weather sealing so the dew don't fry your camera on your first day.
Pentax K-30, K-50 or K-S2 is what you are looking for with the WR kit lens.
>>2727665
It's noticeable, from M4/3 to full frame, but it's certainly not going to prevent someone from taking a successful photo. If you can make a good photo with a full frame camera, you can make a good photo with M4/3, and if you can't make a good photo with M4/3, then you wouldn't be making a good photo with full frame either. But the capabilities are different.
>>2727672
Can you post a link? Theres tons, not sure which to get.
>>2727676
The one you like on ebay.
K-30 and K-50 are basically the same, K-S2 is the successor to K-50 with a newer sensor and more features tailored for casual users.
Really depends on your budget.
If it fits into your budget then maybe look for a K-5 or K-5II.
>>2727667
Yes. These days DSLRs take video. If you're looking for 1080p @ 60fps, however, you'll need to buy a more expensive model. Most entry-level and midrange models are not quite there yet. But they'll shoot 1080p @ 30fps and 720p @ 60fps and offer some pretty decent controls. You can definitely shoot in a much better quality using much better technique than your point-and-shoot and even most entry-level digital camcorders. Many DLSRs also come with a flip screen, and you can also take still images even using manual settings without having to look through the viewfinder.
But yeah. For timelapse, you'll want something weather sealed.
>>2727677
Is the K-S2 already weather sealed?
Or will I have to buy parts for it or something?
>>2727681
The K-30, K-50, K-5, and K-S2 are all weather sealed.
note that you also have to put a weather-resistant lens on the thing. Not all of the lenses are WR.
>>2727686
Most digital lenses are. The DA* and the WR lens are all weather sealed, including the kit lenses.
>>2727687
Only the most recent revision of the 18-55 is WR, the AL and AL II aren't. The SMC 55-300 isn't sealed, only the newer HD one is. I believe the 50-200 has that going on too, with an older non-sealed version and a current sealed version. You have to watch out for all of these if you're buying used. None of the DA non-star primes are sealed.
Jesus Christ! Zenitar 50/1.7 is sooo sweet. Pissing with ranbows taking every shot with him.Dat bokeh!
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>>2727703
>making an uninteresting photo worse with majority of image out of focus
>>2727667
Also consider a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera if you want to do video.
Something like a GH4, A7S, NX1. Or with lower budget, perhaps an A6000.
>>2727703
This is exactly why a novice's first purchase after getting the camera should not be a fast prime. D:
>>2727703
Way too soft in the "sharp" area for me.
Plus quite noisy (probably the Canon sensor...).
Well, perhaps see it as you still having the marvels that are modern lenses & sensors to look forward to...
>>2727650
Enjoy the m4/3 lens selections if you'll stay with that system
A6000 low cost primes, light ones if possible for travel.
I can't afford Zeiss lenses. The ones I'm thinking are Samyang12 2 for landscapes and architecture, Sony 50 1.8 for portraiture. Sony 35 1.8 as standard lens. Sigma DNs are also an option, probably the 30 2.8 and/or 60 2.8. And might buy a Samyang 85 1.4 for portraiture if 50 1.8 or 60 2.8 doesn't cut it.
Any other recommendations /p/?
>>2727703
Horrible wb, noise and an uninteresting oof object.
>>2727707
Then what are they supposed to do to make it interesting?
>>2727876
>interesting subject
>interesting background and possibly foreground
>tell a story
You're just shitting out bokeh right now and it looks absolutely disgusting. My 85 1.8 can put out more bokeh of higher quality but I'm not shitposting it all over this thread. You have a lot to learn about taking proper photos if you have to ask how to make a photograph interesting.
Could someone answer my question here?
>>2726149
Question!
When developing color film in Rodinal Developer for black and white, will I expect any quality loss? Or could I have mixed up my expired film with my new film and fucked up?
Thanks.
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A question for those that use manual lenses on digital bodies:
I'm having a little trouble getting the focus just right at wide apertures. Am I just going to get better at it? Should I try something different?
Also, how do I adjust the meter on a Canon 350D?
>>2727876
making a photo blurry doesn't make it interesting, just like stapling more wheels to your car doesn't make it go faster. You need an interesting subject, good light, a beautiful scene, something worth looking at for your viewer.
put yourself into the mind of an experienced photographer, who has spent years looking at and taking photos, and think "what about this photo would make that guy want to look at it?"
in the case of the photo posted, the answer is a loud and incredulous "nothing at all"
>>2727992
Your E mount flange distance is 18mm. Your lens flange distance is 46mm. If you don't give your lens the full 46mm, you won't be able to focus on anything. Your focus will be far beyond infinity. Thus you need an adapter to get the lens to at least its required 46mm flange distance.
>>2727996
Your focusing screen is the issue. Canon assumes that you will use AF lenses, so they sacrifice focus accuracy in exchange for a brighter viewfinder. In order to get your focus accuracy back, you need to replace the focusing screen with a high accuracy or split image screen.
Or shoot in live view.
>Adjust the meter
What?
>>2727996
>adjust the meter
It's built into the software, you can't
In terms of getting the focus right you'll either need to use focus peeking (not sure if Canon has this) or replace your focusing screen with a split prism.
Manual focus on a screen made for AF is a shitshoot without focus assists like peeking
>>2727995
Are you aware the color film and black and white film are not the same thing at all and the chemicals and developing processes used are totally different?
If you cross process color film through the B&W process you might get really garbage looking fucked up black and white photos, but I don't know why you would do that instead of just using black and white film. If you put black and white film through the C41 color process you will get nothing, just a blank roll of film.
>>2728001
Thanks for answering my questions.
How hard is it to change out the focusing screen? Are they generally only easy on the 1D series? Which type do you prefer?
>What?
>>2728030
>It's built into the software, you can't
The meter wants to expose my images half a stop to long, there's no way to centre the arrow in order to match my preference?
What's focus peeking?
>>2728079
Use exposure compensation. Also practice more with the manual focusing, pick one detail, eyeball it while you adjust focus. You will see there's big difference between focusing for a detail or the whole subject. Just practice more, your Mk. 1 eyeball needs experience.
>>2727473
good advice, thanks!
I want a film SLR to get started. Is the Zenit 122 any good? I found a one in mint condition for $20, with the 58mm and a flash, should I get it?
>>2728079
Google and your camera manual will answer these questions.
I'm thinking of selling my 400mm 5.6 and getting a 2x teleconverter for my 70-200 f2.8
Would it even be worth the effort or should I just keep the 2 lenses?
>>2728132
Keep the two lenses, a TC always degrade IQ. With some lenses les, some lenses more but you can be sure your 400mm will be always sharper than the 70-200 with TC. f-stop will be much the same too.
Plan your shots for your 400mm prime.
Which would you recommend as a first dslr, 1200d or 40d? I don't really care about video or fps, I will mainly shoot landscapes, street and maybe some wildlife.
>>2728154
40d absolutely, if it doesn't have a fuck ton of actuations. It's a wonderful camera, you'll love using it.
Look around for 7d's if you can, too, they're popping up on the market for awesome prices because people don't realize it's still an excellent pro body with an old sensor, but its the same old sensor you'll find on all Canon's crop cameras up to and including the 7dII.
I'm looking to upgrade form my old canon 400d
Got ~600$ to spend on body + lens, would prefer a canon cuz I got used to them.
It would be nice if it could shoot video in ok quality too
any advice?
>>2728154
My friend has a 40D and he regularly shoots military stuff and family. It is a beast with the Mk.1 100-400mm L and does a great job even today for capturing fast planes, action and everything you might think of.
Definitely better option than the 1200D, no matter what the megapixel is.
>>2728164
Either save a little more and find a low shutter count 5d2, or get a 7d. I don't think its worth it going for newer crop sensor Canons, the 7d does everything and more, with the same effective sensor quality (sadly, for the newer cameras.)
>>2728168
both are out of my price range by like a lot, both are ~1000$ for the body only
anything more budget-friendly?
>>2728172
>~1000$ for the body only
In what country? Here in Italy 7d's can be regularly found for 500€ and less if you look around a little - like 400-450. For this kind of gear in the US (you're using dollars so I guess it's USD) the prices should be lower.
I'm talking about used of course. 7d's are made to last, mine has probably around 200k actuations, been used roughly, and it has only minor cosmetic damage. I never had to clean the sensor, either.
>>2728175
Alright, found a used one for 550$
Visually looks fine, its at 64k photos, also some sd cards thrown in
Sounds good enough?
>>2728186
64k photos aren't a lot but aren't few either. If it looks mint it's probably good. The 7d uses CF cards so careful about that, SD's wont work.
If you can check it out first it'd be good, I think you can find bodies with lower shutter counts.
>>2728192
With that you can be sure you will soon have to get the shutter replaced, so calculate that into the equation.
The 40D was a great camera but the shutter assembly was not so good at that time as todays common shutters.
At that time 100k actuations was the maximum a shutter assy was certified for, todays mid levels are going for 200k easily. The 7D is of the newer ones.
>>2728192
7D's are a bit of an oddball.
While >>2728194 is right (even though the 7d is rated for 150k), its not uncommon to have them break 300k without major issues.
Still, yeah, take into account that its a bit of a lottery.
Bottom line is that pro cameras have a rated shutter count but their built to go much further than that, it's just a "worst case scenario".
I have been wanting to get into photography for a while. I was gifted a Canon EOS Rebel T5 (not T5i). With the default 15-55mm lens.
I am incredibly happy and have already started taking shitty pics all over the house and off my balcony.
However, I do want a brutally honest answer. How good is this camera? Will this limit me in some way in the near future? What can I expect from this as I get better? Is it worth eventually (when I'm better) getting a new lens for this camera? Or will I need to upgrade the camera itself as a natural upgrading progression.
>>2728108
I have shot with a Zenit E and own a Zenit 11 myself. Honestly I wouldn't bother and would instead look for like a Canon AE-1 instead, you can probably find one for like just €20 more and it will be far better. Not saying the Zenit isn't a fun camera, but it's heavy, the light meter sucks (if it even has one and if it even works, because selenium cell), the focusing screen isn't very good and the shutter speeds are limited. The Zenit E also got stuck and cut the film when I shot a roll with it.
They're fun for occasional shooting and the Helios is p cool, but I'd personally get a better body first.
If you're dead set on Soviet stuff, I've had way more fun shooting Soviet rangefinders.
>>2728095
I might also add that that particular zoom is meant for Super16 film, so it'll vignette on your g7. Not sure if that bothers you.
Get ready for jimmies to be rustled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcKQQaiLuzs
What film camera should I get? I'm eyeing up an Olympus Pen F currently, but should I save up to get something like a Pentax LX or an OM-4?
>>2728274
It's a perfectly fine camera, it'll probably take you a solid year of use before you start to run into the limitations.
>>2728276
Thanks. I'm actually trying to get the Zenit 122 to shoot while my Nikon F3 is overseas for restoration, and later keep it as the cheap toy I carry everywhere.
I'm also eyeing a Pentax K1000 for ~$50, but I'm sure I'll baby it far too much to take it everywhere with me.
The local collectors have snagged pretty much all rangefinders and Canon/Nikon SLRs near me. I have to be checking the local equivalent of eBay daily for months to find something worth keeping.
>>2728274
> How good is this camera?
Pretty bad as far as IL cameras go.
> Is it worth eventually (when I'm better) getting a new lens for this camera? Or will I need to upgrade the camera itself as a natural upgrading progression.
Usually, a lens upgrade is a great thing even on an entry-level IL camera.
But it may or may not be the thing that solves your biggest problems. Maybe you'll swap out the body, or both.
Try to shoot a lot more until you know what bothers you?
What would be better for a Photography class; a Nikon D3300 or a Sony A6000?
>>2728406
Probably depends more on the teacher than the camera.
>>2728406
I'd prefer the A6000 as a camera, but I don't think the class teacher / lessons will care?
>>2728415
so get the a6000 dumbass
>>2727450
Thanks for the heads-up, but I found a great deal on a K-5II with a 35mm so I'm waiting for that to arrive. Wished it was a IIs but can't complain.
