Who here's been in a confrontation before over a shot they took?
I was shooting in Times Square today when a woman and her daughter walked into my frame just as I shot.
Click click click (fucking A6000 shutter).
She turns around and her eyes dart from me to her daughter (who was about 15 as I later found out, but could have easily passed for 18)
Then she screams "You pervert!" and comes charging at me. Everyone turns around to see what's going on and I try to explain she walked into my frame and I did not intentionally take a photo of her or her daughter.
She goes on and on about how that's bullshit and she "knows my type" (I guess she was calling me a thug) that prey on girls.
I offer to delete the picture, and do so in front of her.
She says she's still calling the cops before her daughter drags her away embarrassed.
Worst part is the crowd started jeering in "You fucking sicko," and "You are disgusting!" without even knowing what's going on.
As someone who generally doesn't film people, but rather buildings, cars and nature...I didn't know how to react...
How would you react in such a situation /p/? Anyone had anything similar happen?
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>>2681486
I'd probably have tried to cordially explain this to her as you did.
But once she starts screaming shit, I tell her to fuck off, go home and watch her idiotic Hollywood crime fantasies on TV.
>>2681486
Don't delete photos or try to placate lunatics; makes you look guilty
Sorry to hear that happened to you OP.
>>2681499
Kind of agree with this, if nothing else because she doesn't deserve to get her way through bullying. Fuck her.
A few weeks ago I was on the beach taking photos of boats and stuff and some woman had a hissy fit about me to her friend "that man over there's going round taking photos of people" "i'm keeping an eye on him" and a couple of other things.
I wasn't taking photos of people, I didn't even take my lens cap off around people to try and prevent any accusations, but people just get upset when they see a man by himself with what they see as a "professional" camera. People are getting a little OTT with this pedo stuff.
Pic related
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I shoot a lot where homeless and crazy people hang out. My plan if somebody tries to confront me is to pretend to be deaf. It's foolproof. Nobody will beat up a deaf guy exploring what senses he has left.
>>2681506
> with this pedo stuff
Long lenses on DSLR cause rape on even adult women, they just can't feel safe around you, anon.
If this happens more often, I think you should have a fake beard and thick horn glasses with you, just in case you overhead another group and want to go talk to them.
>>2681515
I should learn sign language and try this.
Never had that happen to me, but if I lived in a country where it's completely legal to take pictures of people on the street like the US, I'd probably tell them to fuck off
>not shooting glorious Zenit
>not growing glorious soviet beard
>not smacking that bitch face with glorious built-as-tank camera
i'd just dismiss her and move on. she calls the cops, and the cops will tell her to fuck off. she posts your image on the internet, you sue for defamation. either way, zero fucks given. dont delete your photos. while file sequence numbers and metadata dont mean much as evidence, it could help.
the same cannot be said in france. pictures of buildings and landscapes are ok, pictures of people as the subject of interest require a model release. legally anyways. if you look like a tourist and not a full body pro camera toting idiot, nobody gives a shit in a city like paris.
also, dont dress, act, or look like an internet dweeb.
>>2681499
yes i guess you are right.
there was one dude who kept yelling "shut up, you cunt!" over and over and it made me laugh while i was talking to her...that really set her off
>>2681515
They'll beat up a liar if they catch him in it, though.
>>2681506
that boat cant be more that 7 years old you sick fuck
>>2681486
jokes on you.
it's not click click click.
a6000 is more of a clack clack clack.
>>2681486
>new york
get a kike lawyer and sue.
>>2681535
going to Paris in a few hours, what's the situation like there?
>>2681568
>the performer leaves and the bitch standing in front of me starts walking off
>I follow her for a few minutes and pretend to take photos of her, like a paparazzo (pic related)
So basically I handled the situation like a dumbass - trying to be an irl troll...
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>>2681486
>confronting a woman out in public ever
Not even once man.
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw
>>2681571
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw
Dem fucking people. Especially some of the ones that saw most of what happened.
Anyhow, I do not think most dumb-ass women who've seen too many TV series will physically attack you, so just do verbally resist.
>>2681571
Both of the times in the video guy hurts the girl more than the girl hurt the guy before.
Shitty video.
>be me in a park shooting a few portraits for a friend
>hambeast helicopter mother and her cottonwool spawn trudge over to me
>"WHY YOU TAKING PHOTOS OF ME AND MY SON"
>friend doesnt know what the fuck is going on
>in my calmest possible customer service voice: "if i were taking photos of you, you would've just paid me an $800 session fee, and were just with my hair and makeup artist for an hour before we even started shooting. as for your son, i dont shoot anyone under the age of 18 as its not in my business model."
>she backed off right away and dragged her spawn with her.
>came back after we started packing up and she asked for my card
>didnt want to shoot hambeast with resting bitchface so i gave her a fake website she could look up instead
meh.
>>2681499
This. The more power you give someone who is harassing you, the more they are gonna take.
>At Grandfather Mountain in North Carolina
>Snapping a few pics
>All of a sudden I get hit with something, drop my camera on the ground smashing the lens
>Some women hit me with a pocket book because she was I was perving on her kid
>All I did was yell "really?!?!" and called the cops
>She got arrested after a few people confirmed my story
She got 90 days in the slammer and I got a check fro the camera/lens like a year later. Why do people flip out this shit?
>>2681531
ikr ? and add some 135mm soviet lens
>dem bitches be fallin down one by one
>>2681582
you sound like a cunt tbh
>>2681601
>a check a year later
Wtf
>>2681499
THIS. Remember that bitch who attacked the kid for allegedly taking lewd pics of her with his drone (lel delusional).
***TRIGGER WARNING***you'll rage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9DD7qZ7UN8
>>2681601
>She got 90 days in the slammer and I got a check fro the camera/lens like a year later
I love happy endings
>Then she screams "You pervert!" and comes charging at me.
>She says she's still calling the cops before her daughter drags her away embarrassed.
>Worst part is the crowd started jeering in "You fucking sicko," and "You are disgusting!" without even knowing what's going on.
DUDE AMERICA LMAO
>>2681515
I did this once, an old jewish bitch started screaming at me when I taking pictures of baltimore, I said "Wuhd nyoo lyook aht my picthoos?" I just showed her my pictures and she was like "oh how pretty!" and left me alone
>>2681486
>Street Confrontations
"You wish you could work as hard as me."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDvMJZMZghI
>>2681556
Dont worry, Your camera will be robbed from you before you even have the opportunity to harass any women.
>>2681630
>putting on a pathetic voice to talk to the police
>starting a fight immediately after
holy shit I would've killed her
>>2681630
Just so you'll feel better after all the raging, the cops arrived, and the woman immediately claimed the guy was assaulting her. Unfortunately she didn't account for him filming the whole thing, and after taking a look at the video the cops arrested her and she got charged for assault instead. If he hadn't shot the video though, well, I'm sure you know how it goes if it's his word against hers. On the beach. And he has a flying camera.
>>2681696
You forgot to add that he was arrested first.
>>2681699
Because he wasn't you fucking faggot
>>2681689
This. Keep a hand on your camera. Be vigilant of the people around you. Be extra vigilant around the tourist traps.
Generally speaking, nobody gives a shit if a touristy fuckhead takes snapshits. Don't try your hand at street photography though.
>>2681627
Court order her to pay damages, takes a long time for stuff like that to happen.
>>2681699
Detained isn't exactly arresting
>>2681667
lol hes actually creepily filming her...shes fucking hot as fuck doe
>>2681623
I am with the guy. Being confident in your work shouldn't make you a cunt.
>>2681630
Woman is crazy, Dude's fly is unzipped.
>>2681796
Yeah, nah, he's a cunt m8
>>2681486
honestly, in ny, i would just bolt it or walk away right at the beginning of any shit.
maybe start yelling, "muh rights"
it could work
>>2681792
white knight found
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Carry bullshit "Documentary Photographer" business cards with you. If people get in your shit, just hand them a card and explain that you are documenting something that pertains to them; their clothes/fashion, their food/coffee, phones being used in public, etc.
Never tell them that you snapshit randoms on the street, because that sounds even more creepy. Never delete a picture unless they specifically request it, because you look like you're guilty if you do.
Carry a printed copy of the first amendment, and any of the several court cases about public photography, so you can shoe them that nothing you're doing is illegal, and that calling police is just going to be a waste of time, but make sure you tell them that they can still call the police if they want to.
Also, never let them look at or scroll through your pictures. They don't have an expectation of privacy in public, but the contents of one's phone, camera, Nintendo ds, etc does. Cops need warrants to search that stuff, so have them call the cops, who need to get a warrant.
Reposting some photos I found in a thread a few days ago, seems to fit the theme of this thread
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>>2681920
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oddly enough had my first altercation last week after shooting street for 8 years
I saw this man petting his dog on the head while the dog kinda drooped his head down, like he was sad for something he did
anyway, i moved in and just as I shot, this guy's daughter walked into my frame on purpose
she goes, "you can't take photos of people without permission, its against the law"
I said, "yes I can," took a side step and took it anyway.
she threw a fucking fit and told her dad I was taking pictures of her and that i had been following them for the last 3 blocks (neither of which was true)
cops were called, they (including her blue whale of a mom) actually flagged them down. the cops told them to eat shit because its a public area, didn't even ask to look at my camera. had a nice conversation with the younger cop about the rx100m4
tldr; stand your ground next time you pussy
>>2681486
This is why I shoot street with a retro camera. Shooting with an a6000 modern camera will freak women because they think it has x-ray vision or some other hidden tech.
Pic related is what I shoot street. Girls complement it as well. :3
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>>2681927
post pictures
>Driving past beach
>See hawk in tree
>Pull over, get out
>Opposite side of road from beach
>Aiming away from beach
>12 seconds later
>"You can't take photos here!"
>Reply "die in a fire"
>Keep shooting
funny when people get mad over things like this, but don't bat an eye about being spied on by their own smartphones/big brother
>>2681921
seen it a million times but i still love it
>>2681930
>die in a fire
confirmed for playing counter-strike 1.6
>shooting pictures in a subway station
>on top of escalators that lead to a different train
>wild haired nigres starts yelling at me
>says I can't take pictures of people that don't want their picture taken
>possible reply 1: "there are cameras everywhere"
>possible reply 2: "why would I waste a frame on you?"
>possible reply 3: "I'm not breaking any laws"
>possible reply 4: "call the cops, I don't give a fuck"
>actual reply: laugh and keep walking while keeping on eye on the savage creature just in case
The picture wasn't even good. I don't like taking pictures of people even if I legally for the simple fact that I don't want to take pictures of people who don't want me to.
>taking pictures downtown
>see dude sleeping while leaning against a wall
>take foto
>leave to find next subject
>niga2 starts walking up to me saying I can't take photos.
>yes I can, its a public space.
>gets niga1 "ay brudda he took foto of you to make money"
>wat
>niga1 starts getting mad, saying he's gonna call cops
>niga2 gets niga3,4,5 to surround me.
>ay boi u cant take foto here u makin money?
>no, i'm just taking photos because I like to.
>niga1 wants to call cops so I say okay and he says to walk across the street to the library so he can call cops and have security seize me
>lol okay no problem niga1 lets go.
>there is a guy handing out flyers for some festival thing
>niga1 walks up to him
>ay boi, he took foto of me call polize
>flyer man says "so? its a public space, there is no law saying he can't, you're on camera anyway I can take you to security and show you the hours of video of you just standing around here.
>niga1 gets sad at no justice and no compensation money that I was apparently supposed to make off him.
>niga 2-5 still bashing me to delete foto
>finally after about 5 minutes the niga family gets bored and leaves, I hand niga1 my card
>mfw it was a snapshit anyway but won against nigas
As a photojournalist, fuck the state police and small-town redneck volunteer firefighters. You're not going to prevent me from getting the photo I want or need, so don't even fucking try it.
>>2681990
Being a dick to authorities gets you nowhere, even when you're not breaking the law. Politely explain the law (I usually carry around a copy with me with the relevant sentences highlighted) and they're usually pretty cordial to me
>>2681667
>girl clearly states she is underage
>>2681975
This did not happened.
>>2681998
No m8, actually happened. I swear on me mum.
nigas2-5 didn't know niga1, they just saw me taking a photo of the dude and decided to fob over. bredda wha you takin deh fotos of peeple you canhot do dat. I did offer to delete the photo at the end of it but niga1 just lost hope and stopped caring.
>>2681895
I may be a cunt but it diffused the situation didn't it? Plus if anyone insinuates you're a pedo wouldn't you want to defend it instead of peeing your pants or rapidfiring shots in their face which will only make the situation worse?
Seriously you should try it sometime. A touch of confidence in the right tone puts people on the backfoot if they arc up at you
>>2681921
What happened? Did the cop do anything?
>>2681995
>>2681792
but jokes on them, joey boots (guy filming) has been openly homosexual for more than a decade at the time of that incident.
also,
>be in the middle of times square dressed in crotch clinging shorts
if she were my daughter, and she really wanted the shoot, i would not suggest that as the location. more importantly, i'd suggest a different set of pants before crying about who was filming my kid.
>>2682076
Isn't is illegal to film the crotch of an underage? Also if he's gay why is he filming her crotch? shit don't add up mac.
>>2682224
Well obviously that would be illegal, but I'm pretty sure he is gay and has been for a long time. He was one of the earliest video makers on to troll with his camera. He mostly did shit for the reactions so I'd guess, this was another one. And perhaps he didn't know she was underage until the mom told him.
His main point was that he's in public and films whatever he wants to film as long as he's not touching/harming the person.
>>2682331
Do different laws apply to gay people?
>>2682332
Yes. For example, until recently, gay people couldn't marry each other.
>>2682343
Technically incorrect.
It wasn't illegal for gay people to marry, but it was illegal for people of any sexual orientation to marry other people of the same sex.
Your sexual identity does not exempt you from certain laws.
>>2681667
> in public
> posing
> very tight clothing
and he's the pervert? kek
>>2682331
Why would filming or taking a picture of a underage girl/boy crotch be illegal? as tight as the clothing is, it is still clothing and therefor covering the genital area.
If it were illegal for a picture to be taken of someone dressed like that, it would also be illegal for them to go out in public dressed like that.
lol based muhniggerpixels
>>2683037
Nudity != sexualization
>>2683058
sexualization doesn't equal cp.
there's tons of situations where young under age girls are sexualized by what they dress or their actions and none of those are considered illegal.
see dance moms on tlc for strong evidence of this.
>>2681660
lel
>>2681924
lel, stand you ground
>>2682354
Incorrect in only the most autistic form reasoning.
There are, and were, states where gay sex is literally a crime. But I guess by your definition, it's also illegal for straight people to have gay sex.
>>2683703
>but i guess by your deginition, its also illegal for straight people to have gay sex
... it is though. its not illegal to BE gay. it was a crime for a man to peg another mans asshole.
im not really worried about the confrontation, but i am worried about someone breaking my camera. it was cheap as hell, but im poor as hell, plus it will ruin the roll of film inside it.
>>2681486
Meh. Its usually middle aged busybody ladies anyway who just threaten to call the cops, and I tell them they should and keep on shooting. No fucks given.
I do carry a small can of bear spray and a .380 just in case, but usually its not a problem, and when it is you can usually get the to go away without escalating it.
There is a reason companies make concealed carry holster pockets in camera bags though.
Originally thought it would be for protection from teen thugs trying to mug me late at night in the city, but they actually never bother me. Its actually only come in handy with entitled rich white assholes trying to take my camera.
Why the fuck do some people have the crazy idea that any picture with them possibly in it legally belongs to them, along with the camera, so they can just take my camera from me by force if they think they might have been in the giant crowd I just took a picture of?
Where there hell do people get these ideas?
I had something weird like this happen
>shooting really cool weird building that's a power plant or some shit
>security guard walks out and tells me to leave
>ask him if I can talk with the manager or whatever
>go into the building and talk with him
>guy shows me around and says I can go to the roof and shit and the only exception is that I cant take a picture of anyone working there
It was weird I've thought about calling ahead to buildings and asking since then
>>2683703
i suppose you're conflating anal and gay sex? that's the only option i can see that doesn't portray you as literally braindead
>>2683762
>Why the fuck do some people have the crazy idea that any picture with them possibly in it legally belongs to them, along with the camera, so they can just take my camera from me by force if they think they might have been in the giant crowd I just took a picture of?
this have literally never happened to you
ever
time to grow up and stop fantasizing about your own impotency m8ty, before you hurt yourself with those toys you bought
>>2683877
Happens to people all the time, not just me. One of the old regulars here actually wound up in jail because some drunk fuck thought his girlfriend might have gotten in one pic of a festival crowd, and so snatched his camera and smashed it on the ground. Wound up in jail for the fight that ensued afterward.
I have never lost a camera to anyone, but people sure have tried to take it, or threaten me over it. One lady broke my glasses because she was inside a restaurant when we took a pic of the -outside- of the building, and she thought she might be have gotten in the pic through the front window, and punched me when neither I nor my assistant would turn over all of our film at her demand, since she 'owned' that picture.
Lots of entitled fucks think they own the rights to any image they are in. Try shooting -ANY- event and you will find at least one asshole trying to take or steal your shit because they think the rights belong to them. One girl that did concerts lost two cameras, broken jaw, and the orbital bone in her face crushed when someone in the crowd pulled her off the stage due to that. She only lost the DSLR due to the fall. Some idiot grabbed and smashed the other one just to get the film out of it.
So in short, fuck off. it happens.
I've noticed actually helps to dress and look good. lots of you guys are probably fuckin slobs. so I would suggest actually dressing like you are working and look sharp. people judge books by their cover and you just gotta roll with that.
>>2683805
Looks like there's a third option where you're dumbass.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/26/politics/26WIRE-SODO.html
A lot of these laws ( I don't think there are many left after the supreme court decision,but this is still fairly recent) banned oral and anal sex for HOMOSEXUAL couples only, though a some applied to heterosexual couples, too.
As a matte of fact, some schools reference this old struck down legislation. For example, Texas:
"homosexual conduct is not an acceptable lifestyle and is a criminal offense under Section 21.06, Penal Code"
(http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/HS/htm/HS.85.htm)
>>2681486
>click click click
dude, turn on electronic front curtain.
>>2684477
You sure do know a lot about gay sex laws.
>>2684357
wasn't that pantsuit? i remember he posted the bail sheet for that arrest.
i forget the chick that used to do concerts, her face was never the right shape after that. she used to be pretty cute, too.
/lesson isn't to dress well and look professional, the lesson is don't ever shoot around drunks
>>2681623
it was an inteligent reaction
>>2681486
>Me and my friend shooting in an abandoned warehouse
>walking up some stairs
>turn around to see where my friend is
>notice someone on the ground hugging their knees and rocking back and forth
>immediately start running out of there
>Be travelling greyhound
>Pope's visit is on TV at the Denver CO station
>Nobody's really watching
>Decide to take a picture of that lonely TV because I'm bored
>Framing it up
>Lady runs up to me, "sir you can't take pictures here"
>"Okay"
>Continue waiting for the bus
I really wasn't allowed to. Also in hindsight it could have been a waste of film.
With close encounters you need a good front and be street smart to some extent. In countries that have laws that favor the right of public privacy you need to respect that, and just be mindful of the times we live in re: creepy dudes and fucking weirdos, but also think about the streets you walk on and how general attitudes vary from place to place. Some towns and cities and peoples have different attitudes, you need to know and respect that and recognize the environment your shooting in. So in some instances you probably need to be an accepted part of the furniture. If not, you might get told and approached. If you feel like an alien in a foreign land and that your stepping out of place, your going to have a bad time probably. Know your own tribe, and it helps to know the streets you walk on. Dont be afraid to take risks sometimes but be ready to back it up with integrity.
OP mentioned Time Square which has dudes with cameras who sit outside cinemas and big stores snapping you with flashes on the way out. Its a hustle and the whole place is, so lol that you got punked there, reads like it meant something which probably means you were in the wrong.
>She turns around and her eyes dart from me to her daughter (who was about 15 as I later found out, but could have easily passed for 18)
Haha good one OP, post the fucking picture why dont you.
>>2681696
>>2681699
they believed the woman at first and were preparing to arrest him when he showed them the video. she was charged and faced up to a year and a half in jail and a few thousand in fines, but since she's a woman, she only got probation. her record is also wiped clean after 2 years. wheres feminism now tho
Not really street confrontation but confrontation none the less: a model I work with previous messaged me asking if I would help her out with headshot for a teen pageant she was entering into. I told her to come by my studio and it would be no problem. The day comes and I get a call from her saying she is outside my studio and her dad wants to talk to me. I walk out and an agitated man is standing there and asking me in broken English what is going on. I'm like "umm I'm helping *models name* out with head shots". He looks at me then goes "no no no way!" And grabs the model's hand and motions like they are leaving. The model then talks to her dad saying it's cool and everything. It's becoming a scene so I said how about we go to a park down the block and shoot the images there. The guy then goes "no no it's fine just know she is my little girl". I'm like do you want to come into the studio while I shoot? and he said no and walks to his car and drives off. Then the model tells me he was just dropping me off and her mom and picking her up. She I assured me everything was cool and he wasn't actually mad he was just trying to be protective.
>>2684747
>he was just trying to be protective.
>trying to be
and failing
that he backed down so suddenly shows this
cuckdads are laughable
>trying to be protective instead of actually being protective
>no resolution to follow through with initial intent
>backs down and withers away like a jellyfish
what kind of daddy issues does a piss-weak dad generate for grils?
>>2684747
And then i FUCKED her and did a headshot with a Ricoh GR.
>>2684751
That's what boggles my mind. I gave him two solutions but he wasn't interested in either of them bc they involved him having to do something...
>>2684687
read the before commenting dumbass, he deleted it in front of her
>>2681571
Bet we're gonna see a h3h3 on that
>>2684758
And another one bites the DUST.
I see photographers taking pictures of poor people selling birdseed and then not even being bothered to spend the 5 cents that it would cost for a plate.
in those cases I would be pissed of at the photographer.
The best thing to do is as soon as they threaten to call the police, take out your phone and call the police for them and hand them the phone to let them do the talking. Then start taking tons of pictures of them and of who ever else gets involved, laughing at them in the process.
>>2684616
heroin fam
>>2684827
So I have to buy your shitty product for no reason if I want to photograph you? I don't have any need for birdseeds.
>be me
>need a photo of a swimming pool
>go to the swimming pool
>pool.cr2
>old fat lady arrives
>"u cant take photos w/o a permission"
>call the cops, i dont give a fuck.mov
>im calling security
>they gonna lead me to the neares exit?
>security arrives
>leads me to nearest exit
>I have a telephoto bitches
>Canon 200mm
>nice photos
>they saw me and start running towards me
>ohshit.exe
>gives middle finger and run away
>company i work dont needed the pool picture anyway
>>2684786
Oh shit Im sorry OP apologies for the attitude, I dont trust in all that I read here, but stand your ground I guess and dont do that because >>2681499
Just be extra vigilant and mindful that parents with children in particular can be over-protective and may react angrily regardless. Legally they cant do much I think, if you have honest to god intentions and are in a public space and arent stalking folks then youre fine, i mean its fucking Time Square. Morally though you'll always be the one who is left wondering if you need absolution, Its in its very nature exploitative even if youre just a tourist snapping buildings with people walking into the frame. Not much more you can do but be honest about why youre there/what your doing and why. If your intentions are honest and true you need to get tough and not let joe public get on top of you and punk you, because they have no legal defense really, sure they can get mad but you dont have to delete shit or buy into their opinion. You can just walk away and if they follow you and keep harassing you theyre the ones who should be mindful of whats legal and whats not.
>>2681486
>How would you react in such a situation /p/? Anyone had anything similar happen?
I would start explaining the 15 year old girl what the mother means by saying everything, in most detailed way possible until mother would leave.
There is no reasoning with this people, but you can have fun with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzysxHGZCAU
Related.
I love these videos.
>>2685096
>I would start explaining the 15 year old girl what the mother means by saying everything, in most detailed way possible until mother would leave.
wat
can you rephrase that plz
>>2681486
americans are retarded
>>2685103
this video is so hypnotizing.
i'm saving the rest for later.
>>2685103
It never shows the cops actually showing up. He needs to videotape that.
>>2685163
Why would they show up?
He is just taking a video. Cops won't respond to a 911 call for a guy taking a video.
>>2685167
I realize he isn't doing anything illegal but you'd think maybe sometimes the cops would at least show up. Then he could get video of the cop explaining to the people that it isn't illegal which you'd think he'd get a kick out of.
>>2685167
Trespassing and or suspicious person what 99% of man with a camera get dispatched as
>>2685013
>gives middle finger and run away
What are you, 16?
>>2685167
>posting from September 10, 2001
>>2685167
Who calls in just that? Ladies like the one in the video above always say they have been assaulted, or that you are actively molesting minors, or stalking people, or are armed or threatening, something to get the cops to show up.
They know the perfectly well the cops wouldn't show up otherwise, and they know damn well that being old women, the cops will never take them to task about making a false report.
>>2684499
faggots love defending their degeneracy
>>2685186
trespassing is a tort not a crime, you have to refuse to leave by the land owner for it to be a criminal offense
I've given up on trying street photography, I don't give a shit what people say, it's using people without their permission.
Honestly how can you feel nothing when you shove a 50mm lens in their face, there's something wrong with that, it's just using people as fodder for personal gain, it's unethical.
It's one step from being a paparazzi, but at least their honest, when you're stopped and asked why you're taking pictures of people minding their own business and you reply with your rehearsed lie,"I'm observing the artistic nature of human interaction within modern societal constructs." do you feel anything?
Or maybe I'm just a fucking pussy ass faggot. Oh well, I'll stick to drawing and animation I guess.
>>2686072
> shove a 50mm lens in their face
2 things wrong with this.
1. 50mm lenses are tiny. Mine is maybe 3.5cm long (an inch and a half to you yanks). You can't really shove that into someone's face
2. 50mm lenses aren't super wide. You can shoot from 6+ feet away and still have a reasonable picture. Once you start getting to 35mm and 28mm lenses you need to start getting in people's business.
Take this shitty out of focus shot from my last spool of film, shot on a nifty fifty. I was 10+ feet away from her, she never saw me
Thus concludes my nitpicking
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>>2685013
I quite like the file extension add-ins. It actually added to the storytelling and made a shitty story kind of fun.
>>2681556
You'll have to fight through a sea of Chinese tourists taking pictures with iPads to even get a shot anyway. I even saw two Chinks toting around 1D's.
>>2686072
Most people wont notice or wont care. You're just scared of that 1% chance of confrontation. Which forces you to learn how to handle those instances where a stranger gets mad at you. Smile and say Hi or Thank You. It's a good way to actually learn some real social interaction.
Pictures with people in it are almost always better anyway. You see a lot of socially scared "photographers" on here that post pictures that would make you think they live in a ghost town. I live in Vegas and I saw someone post Vegas photos of walls and roads without even a car on it. Fucking lame.
Pic related, its from a local art event - gave me a great chance to work on the street stuff and pushing film
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>>2686097
External flash, handheld. Doesn't show up in EXIF
>>2681577
>>2681581
>>2681571
Never mind the fact that by using a video camera with a wide angle lens he actually is filming a shit load of people including children.
These shitty prank videos where you film a shit load of people and emotionally exploit them without them signing releases are pretty lame.
>>2681486
You gotta ignore these people, they're nuts who watch too much scripted time TV. If you're on the internet or watch the news at all you'll know that real pedos are far more fucking fowl than guys taking clothed photos of teenagers by accident. You can't sperg out with these people, that's what they want, react calmly and tell them to fuck off.
>>2681630
Maybe if he wasn't such a patriarchal shitlord commiting AERIAL RAPE that wouldn't have happened
>>2686074
>2. 50mm lenses aren't super wide. You can shoot from 6+ feet away and still have a reasonable picture. Once you start getting to 35mm and 28mm lenses you need to start getting in people's business.
This is exactly what i though when i read this..
>>2681486
Grow some balls. Tell her politely to go fuck herself. Do not offer anything. Carry on as if nothing happened. If they get in your face call the police.
>>2686106
Plot twist, I use medium format with a 0.78x crop factor fag.
Thanks for responding to the question.
>>2681556
I hope you're planning to take creep shots, because that's the only thing Paris is good for.
> be in some deep russian corner visiting relatives
> me and my lil bro go out for a walk
> find Lenin statue
> climb on it and take selfies in all kinds of inapropriate positions
> We later showed pics to relatives
> They said if someone saw us doing that we would have been in deep shit
aparently they still worship Lenin
>>2686788
plz post here
noone is russian here
>>2681486
http://petapixel.com/2015/10/17/man-pens-open-letter-to-woman-who-reported-him-for-taking-pictures-of-children/#more-186889
>>2681549
underrated post
>>2684861
Well, first off, I'm talking about birdseed sellers who could never in their lives hope to even have a camera and the leisure time to go on holiday in a foreign country.
If you want to take a photo to show others about how "poor and noble" these people are and you can't even been bothered to have the courtesy to buy a plate of seed for the birds (which costs next to nothing) then sorry but you're a dick.
>>2684827
SJW without life experiences
Can anybody give me tips on street photography in Germany? From what I've heard you need an individuals permission to take their photo so long as they are not part of a collective, i.e. a crowd at a concert.
>>2687172
Germany is as fascist as always, yes
>>2687152
MRA without bird seed
>>2687172
I think it's the same here in Austria yes. In Germany you're also not allowed to take pictures of buildings as far as I recall
>>2687152
Err i think you'll find that I'm the one who moved to that country (Myanmar) and have literally seen what I described happen, so where you get the SJW without life experiences thing from, I don't know. The people who were getting their photo taken were pissed off when the tourist just walked away. It's not nice to feel like a zoo animal.
>>2687307
I wouldn't want to be photographed like an animal in the zoo.
That's one of many reasons why I don't take a chair to a busy part of the city and sit there calling attention to myself all day. Like they do.
Out in public = fair game.
>>2687307
Moopco you only visited Myanmar for a month
>>2687310
Yeah it's fair game, but to use someone as a photo prop when they are dirt poor like that and not give them the dignity of buying something form them, I just think it's rude beyond belief.
I'm not talking about a street scene, I mean when someone is "oh hey look at those poor vendors on the street, I'm gonna take a shot one" and stands in front of them to take a photo. It's rude as fuck, at least ask them first "is it ok to take a picture?"
>>2687317
Asking if it's okay is presuming they're going to take offense at your white ass
You're so self involved omg
>>2687317
I photograph anyone I think might make a decent subject.
I don't stop to to consider their skin colour or income bracket first because I'm not racist or classist like you.
>>2687172
>>2687287
this so much
just look at google streetview
what the fuck is wrong with germans
>>2687318
This may come as a shock to you but some people don't like it when someone takes a picture of them as a subject. It's not self involved to recognise that. actually it's the opposite.
>>2687319
Who said anything about skin colour? and you're calling me classist for thinking that rich tourists are rude for indulging in poverty tourism?!
You're nuts, you have no life experience at all. I'm talking about dirt fucking poor people who are scraping by day to day. they don't beg and they try to at least make a living doing what they can. Once again I am referring to a specific instance I witnessed where a tourist saw a poor lady seling birdseed by the side of the road,pulled out his camera and took photos of her and then just walked on. Does he HAVE TO buy a plate of seed from her? no. But it would have amounted to a few cents of his money which is close to nothing for him but could go some way to buying a meal for her. The lady was in my opinion rightfully pissed off.
>>2687323
How do you know the tourist could afford seed?
Classist.
>>2684827
I don't usually give money to buskers or homeless people, but I do if I take their photograph
I don't think it's a mortal sin or anything, it just seems rude not too
>>2687320
LOL look at Ukraine. The guy driving that car was like "Yeah, nah, fuck this job. Drive faster Olav."
>>2681921
mr porice offica man take picture no pay arrest man
For those situations it's good to have a small penis length with silent electronic shutter on your mirrorless.
>>2687319
That guy with the suit case was about to give you the finger.
I've been shooting for only about 5 years and very rarely have gotten into a confrontation.
I'd say it breaks down like this for me
60% of people say nothing
20% ask if I took their picture
10% ask if I'm with a newspaper
9% ask me to delete it
1% get in my face and try to get physical
Carry some Moo cards. They are business cards where you can customize each card with a different photo from your portfolio. I carry about 5 at a time while I'm out shooting.
If someone wants you to delete a photo but you don't want to, tell them so and walk away. Most people will leave it at that. If they start following you and start yapping about how they are going to call the cops, give them your card and say, "Well, that's up to you. And now you have my phone number, so they know where to find me." and then walk away again.
95% of people won't call.
>>2687787
so you had 5% people called on you?
>>2687791
yes, about 4 or 5 times since 2010. I only vaguely remember the first couple but didn't get arrested or anything. it was just "you should probably delete that photo to appease them but its up to you"
the last one I got handcuffed and put on the floor because she lied when they wouldn't arrest me for taking a photo of her and said I was upskirting her (with a fucking DSLR?)
Fuck, I live in one of the yellow countries ;_;
Oh well, at least I don't live in the red countries.
>>2687797
What do the colors mean?
>>2687722
pancake lenses on those alphas make my penis very hard
>>2687794
she lied and...what happened to her?
>>2687823
what color capsicum the population prefers
>>2687859
Nothing. I told them that if they took the cuffs off, I could prove I was innocent.
So while I was showing them the legit photos I had taken, she ran off. One of the cops half assed running after her, but she disappeared into the crowd.
I've never had something like that happen again, it was just a combination of having a uncomfortable subject, some lazy cops and just the right amount of density in NYC
>>2681486
i run into a fight the other day...
guy punched his opposent matterfact he didnt do anything...after some time he pulled out a knife and stabbed him.. took some snapshots...sold it to the news paper
end of the story
>>2688711
Without photos or a link to the article there is no reason to believe or care about this post.
>>2688711
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>>2688753
Kudos for delivering.
Austrians actually call hospitals "Spital"?
>>2688753
i just realized that we do lol
>>2688770
The German language is so underrated IMO. It has its own strange kind of beauty.
Hey there, I just recently (few months ago) started fooling around with my parents film camera (Olympus OM-2). I'm taking a trip around Europe this fall and thought it could be a great chance to take some pictures, even try some street photography. However I'm sorta worried about if I somebody finds it uncomfortable that I'm shooting people in public.
What should I do? If they start screaming at my face, I can't even show them the pictures I've shot given it's a film camera and the shutter sound is quite loud, so it's easy to get noticed.
Or is it only a problem in Murica or in Europe too?
>>2685103
>actually liking that autistic faggot
his point is how people are hypocrites about having cctv around them...well, no. cctv serves a specific purpose. the cams are in static positions, not deliberately following you down the street or into your place of work, school like a passive aggressive manchild/getting up in your face when you're just going about you business.
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>>2689239
There's a thread on the board right now with some general adv... oh.
>>2689246
Is that really him?
I assumed he was a big fellow since even the angriest of them hesitate to attack him.
I'd beat the shit of that scrawny prick.
Your point about the differences between him and cctv is spot on. Plus when people ask him what he's doing he escalates the situation with his stupid evasive answers.
He's not "making a point" about anything. He just enjoys being an asshole.
Wouldn't be surprised to see the prick posting shitty street photography of Asian people on this board actually.
>>2689251
That's him. It was taken by someone who felt uncomfortable and did a write up about it a year or 2 ago. Ironic that she didn't want to infringe on his right to privacy so she covered his face in her post. There's the unblurred version somewhere.
And yes, his point gets lost with his replies to. Supporters in previous threads here say, oh but if they feel uncomfortable with him, they should ask him to stop or just walk away and yep that's been done...he keeps following, filming or saying "what?" "it's ok though..it's ok"
not to mention going into private property a few times like the mahjong parlor, following the waitress behind the counter at the restaurant, etc. if he got beaten, shot, or stabbed during one of his trips i wouldn't pity him.
>>2689251
>I'd beat the shit of that scrawny prick.
no you wouldn't
just like 99% of his subjects who aren't violent
if you were stupid enough to assault him, he'd have enough proof to clean you out
>>2689261
So you pretty much think there are no violent people in the world or at least not enough that there's any chance you'd ever meet one, even on 4chan?
I don't go around slapping strangers all day but I have my limits and if I were treated like the people in this guy's videos I'd eventually snap and get physical.
Yes, I'd probably end up paying dearly for it but that doesn't always stop people.
Have you never destroying something in anger even though you knew you'd have to fix it or buy a new one afterwards?
>>2689259
I'd forgot about the trespassing, yeah. Definitely beyond the whole "you're being filmed all the time anyway" point.
>>2685186
Why can't I seem to understand this sentence
>>2689270
Reworded:
99% of the time a man with a camera is reported to the police as a tresspasser or a suspicious person. The dispatch sends them on that assumption.
>360 degrees
>walk away
>>2685103
>homeless
>renta-cops
>businesses
>mostly middle aged
bit of a coward, isn't he? you think with the places he goes he'd see a real cop or something, try it with them? nah, that would actually be a risk, better to fuck with some pensioners, post it on youtube for all the other spectrum kiddies
>>2685103
24:17
Is that george stroumboulopoulos?
>>2687319
when I first opened the picture I went "hmm I think I know that street"
then I spotted the garda officer and I knew where I've seen that corner
>>2689251
slopes rule this board?
>>2681551
No no no. Its more of a clic-clack
>>2692003
I tried out the a6000 and a7 in store and didn't realize how LOUD their shutters are. It feels harsh compared to fuji.
>>2692052
I'm legitimately afraid to shoot street with my a6000
No wonder OP got killed
>>2689239
Check the laws in the country you're visiting. they're all different. technically, in france, if you make somebody the subject of your photo, you have to get their signature on a model release, even if you have no intention of commercializing the picture. people in the frame of a street scene, however, don't, as they're not the subject.
generally speaking, nobody gives a shit, especially if it's a MF SLR, and double especially if you look like a touristy fuck. I watched a dude crawl all over the floor with a D600 to take a picture of a homeless dude for 5 min, and in the middle of Republique square no less.
>>2692052
Lol I shoot street with a Nikon F2. Fully mechanical snap every time I fire that shutter. Grow some balls.
>>2692074
my eos m sounds kachik.
much more silent than a sony.
just hope a7000 gets a new shutter design like the a7ii.
>>2685103
It just gets progressively more aggressive and weird.
>>2685103
Is this guy dead now?
>>2683877
This happened to me last week actually.
Some guy was being a douchbag watching comedy and laughing loudly in the group study section of the library and I had my Bronica SQ and I know the shutter is loud af so I make a show of taking a picture of him and his friends and they quiet down real quick.
A few minutes later he walks over and asks what I was doing (I'd been helping a friend with his laptop problems) and I point at the laptop.
He gets frusterated and points at my camera and asks what it is. When I tell him its a camera he asks to see it, I decline. He gets more angry and demands to see the photo. I ask him if he knows what film is. He says no.
>doesnt even know what film is
I yell over to his group of friends asking if they know know what film is. One does, I have him explain it to his friend. Once he does, his friend asks me to delete it again.
>at this point I'm seriously wondering how he got accepted into college at all
I look at his friend and he tells the idiot why I cant.
Later another even stupider one comes over claiming to know the law and tells me to delete it because I took a picture of a person and the subject owns the pic.
>got'em.dng
Explain what single party consent is. Show them the actual law. Tell them Its my choice and they're not doing a good job convincing me to destroy it.
TL;DR
Fuck assholes m8
If you're not pissing people off every now and then you're not doing street photography right.
It really doesn't happen that often but it happens. The only way to get truly candid shots is to occasionally piss someone off.
I once got thrown out of a fair by a security guard who was convinced I was a pedophile. Despite showing him my camera that had only like 2-3 photos out of 500 that happened to have kids in them. Some people are just stupid assholes who are always on the lookout for excuses to behave like stupid assholes.
Many people don't know the law either. If you're in a public space you have no reasonable expectation of privacy AKA it's perfectly legal to take someones photo in a public space. If they don't like it they can call the cops in which case they will be the ones more likely to get a ticket for trying to intimidate you. At least, that's how it is in the USA.
>>2692509
Nah, in the US of A one calls the cops one someone els, first the cops see if the person is black. If it is, then they beat the shit out of him/her, possibly to death. Then they start asking questions from the ones who called them. Later in the interrogation there might be some mentions of a camera, at which point it is already in pieces, locked away as evidence.
>>2681994
>I usually carry around a copy with me with the relevant sentences highlighted
You got a copy of that I can print out?
I've yet to have a confrontation, though I know it's bound to happen sooner or later. Most of the time if I catch someone in frame they apologize and ask if they ruined the shot. I just smile and say, "No worries" and they walk off. Is this because I'm white?
I generally walk around with earbuds in, ignoring people unless I think it will add to the shot. People will usually stop and ask what I'm doing, in a curious, interested tone.
>>2692601
I'm from Australia so odds are that it won't apply to you. Just google it
>>2692672
I've found that lingering is what causes the confrontation. I'll walk up, take someone's photo and then keep moving. They give you an odd look and that's about it. It's the staying around that freaks people out
This is what the police print to give people who go to them to bitch about nothing:
>>2692679
http://www.artslaw.com.au/info-sheets/info-sheet/street-photographers-rights/#headingh21
>>2692684
Yeah this is the one I have, just keep it folded up in the bottom of my camera bag. Only had to use it once luckily
I really should setup a webpage with just the law and copyright info on it with a simple URL so you can stick it on a card to handout when idiots get in your face. Something like toglaw.com or some shit.
Otherwise it is far too long winded and inconvenient to have a big printed out page of crap to shove under their noses. I'd much rather carry a few cards with basic info and a URL on it if they want more detailed informaiton.
>>2692856
lol that site already exists and they want 999 dollars for it. Well fuck them in their asses!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3136945/Absurd-new-EU-law-mean-ll-face-legal-action-taking-pictures-famous-landmarks-Photos-punished-breach-copyright.html
>>2692871
btw dailyfail. huge pinch of salt etc.
>>2684786
>not restoring it with software later
>>2692871
That law didn't get the necessary votes, so nothing changed.
>>2681660
Baaahaha I've always wanted an excuse to do something like that.
>>2681582
Ok friendo. That seems like a very believable, accurate story.
And so you're aware, using descriptors like 'calmly,' to qualify your own speech is super autistic. Especially when the conversation never happened.
>>2681796
>work
but u don't get paid for this, or any of your snapshits for that matter.
>>2681601
People can just be plain fucking retarded. No further explanation necessary.
>>2681486
I was shooting an old busted grain elevator on the side of the road.
Guy comes up
>you a photographer
>yeah what's up?
>I got some neat run down barns and farm equipment on the back side of my land. Here's my number, give me a shout if you want to head out there.
>>2687671
fucking lel
>greatest fear is some asshole putting their hands on my camera when shooting
It'll never happen, but I still fear it
>>2696768
That actually did happen to me. Some ghetto assed chick.
What a bitch. I hate it when people blindly walk into my shots then get pissed as if I ruined their walk. I'm fine with the long shutter exposures, but for high speed photography, I hate it.
>>2696589
lol hes literally going to eat you
>>2696798
This tb hf am.
>>2696800
>being this unable to express yourself without the slang of the moment
>>2681506
I really like how you can make out the reflection of the boat in the rocks.
You should have just said you were taking pictures of Rebecca-Louise
I don't go on here, I accidentally typed "p" and ended up here. I have cell phone pics of a confrontation does that count or do you have to have a good camera?
I worked non profit, drove a donation truck to this location every weekend and sat there taking donations. A scammed started hanging around, holding a gas can to which people would give him money. As the days progressed, the town started hating him more and more.
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>>2696815
Finally a truck shows up one day with a father and son. The father held a sign saying "fraud" next to the scammer while the son recorded on a tablet. The scammer got visibly mad and eventually stormed off.
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>>2696816
Scammer waited till they left, only to show up again. So did they.
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>>2696817
This encouraged other townspeople to start wasting his time. They'd come up to him, ask him questions, keeping him from begging. I don't know the stuff he said, damn company I worked for allowed him to file a complaint on one of my coworkers for telling donors not to give money to him so I didn't approach him. But his remarks were obviously dumb, he seemed sarcastic in answers and would even pull a bible out of his back pocket and wave it around a little.
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>>2696819
Not sure if it was the town police finally reacted or if the cop did it on his own but a cop did arrive after days of this. The scammer mist not have been breaking any laws but the cop did the same thing as everyone else and talked to him, wasting his time. The scammer got the message and fucked off.
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>>2685070
>intentions are honest and true
is this bait?
is this what people actually think?
why are amerifats so messed up?
do you commit honorable suicide everytime you look at someone for too long? Or recall a memory of someones face?
Jesus a photo is just a snapshot of time, something our eyes do all the time, there is no violence occurring no moral quandary.
What DOES occur is delusional people thinking their privacy is always under attack and that pedophiles are everywhere. And their fapping vigorously to photos of people in plain sight.
Like,...this is some societal tier psychosis right there.
>"Hey bruh, why you be takin' pitchuhs o' me?"
>"Just a photo student. Working on an assignment."
>"Oh a'ight mane. Do yo' thang."
Probably the worst encounter I've had, other than a girl asking if I was taking pictures for my "Spank Bank", while shooting her bulldog.
>>2698454
Sorry, Pic related.
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> being in La Habana at night
> shooting some war planes
> soldier comes out of nowhere
> scares the shit out of me
> "sorry sir you can't take photos at this hour"
> "s-sorry"
It wasn't a confrontation but I didn't know how to react. It really bothers me because if a person gets violent like in some of your stories I would probably shit my pants.
>>2699303
>if a person gets violent I would probably shit my pants
This is a great idea.
People will immediately stop assaulting you if it becomes likely that they'll get shit on their boots.
>>2689266
You have anger issues, dude.
>>2699303
My uncle once went to Iran with some friends.
One of them ended up being interrogated for hours without knowing and farsi or English and didn't get thrown into jail just by coincidence
Never a good idea to take pictures of soldiers
>>2681549
kek
>>2698457
10/10 would smoke a splif with
>>2686331
Do you honestly think he gives a shit.
btw do you FEEL anything replying to someone who just stating the obvious
Had this happen when I was visiting Ireland. Had some cunt come up from behind me and shove me accusing me of taking photos of her kids. However my camera was pointed outwards towards the Cliffs of Moher the whole time.
When I was about 6 or 7, some real estate people were driving by. I stopped on my skateboard for them to pass. They took pictures of me, but when my mom came out, they drove off. She reported it to the police, but we later found out that they were, like I said, for real estate.
>>2699795
thats the way of it. the people who want to find a reason to have drama don't care what you are actually shooting, you have a camera and they need the attention and/or sympathy.
its never anyone you are actually shooting. its always someone who just sees the camera and sees a great chance to play bully/victim.
seen someone stop a car once and drive back to get out and harass people for that that couldn't have even known they or their kids existed, and to top it off the guy didn't even have his kids with him.
just wanted a morally defensible reason to push someone around, and reason play victim if anyone pushed back.
in other words, cowards.
>>2681929
silly anon that was just a story .. it was all a ruse
>>2684556
By "concert chick" do you mean the one with the D700 that used to post here? I hope not
