old thread:
>>671822
1st for Busse and a non faggot OP
The knife from meme man aka reddit lord in Jurassic World.
Swamp Rat custom.
They fucked up with the blade I think.
Busse from The Walking Dead on top.
More Busse.
Extremely rare serrated B7 for diving.
Military order of which we'll never know anything about
not too shabby. Though I prefer more bushcrafty blades myself. 1/8'' thick, full flat or scandi grinds, and ~4'' blade.
Just picked up a new knife for myself (my bday is on thursday) - gonna take it out for a spin innawoods over the weekend.
Why shouldn't I buy a Becker bk10?
I would carry it, a SAK or similar and a bahco saw. Seems about perfect specs at $73
>>688752
wow this actually looks sexy
but fuck the busse shill nevertheless!
>>688769
No reason not to, the bk15/16/17 are also good and lighter
>>688769
i'm not a fan of prybars, and the bk10 is about 3/16'' thick with a saber grind - i'd much prefer something like a condor bushlore - more bushcraft, less survival prybar meme.
I mean, if you absolutely have to, beckers are always a good deal, but something about them just doesn't click with me.
I live in the UK and I want to buy a cool multi purpose knife, does anyone know what the laws on that are here?
>>688816
as far as I know, you can carry a non-locking blade 3 inches or shorter "without good reason", and any other knife "with good reason". Good reason being for example going camping, or fishing, not "just in case of needing it".
>>688811
Bushlore a shit. Stupid brown qc
sweet, are these threads going to be a busse swamp rat circle jerk? INFI INFI all other knives a shit
>>688811
your shitty bushlore is more of a meme than a becker. just cuz you autists over here at 4chan would rather sperg out on every little detail doesn't make beckers bad for innawoods. hell, bushlore is such a fuckin meme people are still buying them thanks to idiots like you shilling when they have terrible heat treats, random blade quality and overall terrible qc
>>688837
yes
>>688837
he would disagree.
>>688847
OP here - I just grabbed that image off wallhaven. At least it's better than posting a mora I guess.
And for innawoods, there are other knives I'd rather have than a swamp rat - something more along the lines of what I said in >>688756
>>688851
he disagrees with facts, then he's a fucking sperglord like the rest of you
knives are pieces of steel, not some fucking magic thing that we need 'pros' on youtube to tell us about to make sure we buy the right one
it's not fucking rocket surgery
>>688850
go easy on the salt, kid.
>>688859
umad? psh nothing personnel, kid. rip in piece. y u mad tho? gorilla fucking warfare
>>688855
you are contradicting yourself then.
Why exactly is the becker "piece of steel" better than the condor piece of steel?
Because I can think of a few reasons it isn't.
Blade thickness, for example (condor is 1/8, bk10 is 3/16). Also, grind (scandi vs saber), and the general blade profile.
And if you want to go into 1095 cro van vs "mere" 1075, you might as well go and get O1, A2, or something like that.
Bushlore wouldn't be my first choice for a bushcraft knife, but not everyone has a $200+ budget, and sometimes you have to take that into account.
>>688864
Q fucking C
at least with the becker i know what the fuck i am getting
>>688865
And heat treat..
>>688870
I get it. I still wouldn't take the becker though. I'd go for something higher quality than condor, but we're talking $80+.
To be honest, I didn't bother to check if the $73 was just for the becker, or for the whole kit in the original post. You can get a bushcrafter hc for 75 bucks, but that's without a sheat, with one you're looking at 105 iirc.
Like I said - the bk10 doesn't click with me - too thick, too long, wrong grind, wrong handle (wrong, as in: not the one I prefer, not necessarily "bad").
My british army type D survival knife.
Asking for suggestions of a folding knife for my dad.
Ordering from EU, budget is around 60€.
Some useful info:
- He's not very fond of thumbstuds, clips or anything remotely tactical
- It will be stored usually on his work bag, it will get scratched and it will get dirty
- He won't use is for any heavy duty task
>>689038
might push your budget a little:
http://www.mikesknives.co.uk/6.html
http://www.mikesknives.co.uk/GEC.html
there's also case cutlery I'd recommend, or you can always get him something like buck 110, or 55.
My first choice for what you said, would be the farm and field bullnose.
You don't make the knife general pic in MS Paint you newfag
what do you guys think of miller bros blades?
>>688737
I'm thinking about getting this knife very soon. I was looking for a scandi with good steel for a good price. Dose anyone have one or heard about it?
http://www.heinnie.com/real-steel-bushcraft#product-tabs
I currently own Helle but it has a small chip in the blade. The steel they use is "triple laminated stainless" but that doesn't actually tell me about the steel.
>>689063
all I had on this machine. Be happy I didn't use comic sans (thought about it).
>>689081
real steel is a chinese company. I have one small neck knife from them in D2 - I was quite impressed by the quality and the fit and finish - nicely rounded edges, g10 scales, satin finish on the blade.
They seem alright.
Helle's triple laminated stainless is something like sandvik laminate. Not bad.
They also have versions in carbon steel.
>>689083
At least you know how to spell knife
>>689081
I have it and like it.
I don't know if this is the correct place to ask but I am looking for a multi tool or a swiss army knife. I have narrowed my choices down to victorinox deluxe tinker, victorinox soldier's knife or leatherman wingman. Which one would be a good choice for doing simple stuff and durability? Open to suggestions also
>>688860
Pasta overload! Not sure whether you're trying to prove your tenure here, or just went searching for ebin memes on teh Google, or what. Anyway, pic related is my edc. Cheap China steel folder for heavy use, straight razor for shaving (I find myself staying away from home all too often).
>>689110
...and I forgot the pic.
>>689103
it's good, but then i have several D2 knives from different makers, so YMMV.
the real steel d2 takes a really good edge though.
i use a lansky turnbox with diam/cer rods - works quite well.
>>689117
Looks good I just watched a video about the lansky turnbox. Is that what should be used for scandi grinds though? Unless the grind angle was 20 or 25. I rely don't want to end up with a secondary bevel.
>>688847
I wouldnt mind because Busse really is good and I too stand for the brand.
B11 reporting in.
If their designs weren't so ugly and as wide as a paddle (and heavy as fuck in general) I would say without a doubt all other knives a shit.
I mainly use a Fällkniven A1 but I'm looking to repalce it for a Boss Jack if I can find it
>>688923
I really like the look i that knife. Seems like a great design.
>>688737
What do you guys recommend for baby's first sharpening set? Should I buy one of those kits that sharpens for you? Get one of those flippable tri stones? Or is there an affordable set of stones I can buy? What kind of stones should I look at? My edc is s30v and I've heard various things about that steel being a bit of a bitch to sharpen
>>689414
get one of the flippable 4 way diamond stones. with the little colored ovals all over it. that will do you just fine.
>>688737
Thank god, someone who can spell knife.
That other faggot trying to be whateverthefuck he was trying to be had me avoiding knife threads.
Busse knives are mostly shitty just based on how thick they are. A thin, longer machete would do almost everything better than a Busse and be lighter for it.
The only thing a Busse is good for is batoning, which is just as much a meme as /out/ says it is. It's one of the things that makes me respect /out/ over the terrible knife forums full of idiots battoning wood for no reason in their backyard.
There are a few people here who actually do go /out/. Not a lot, but a few.
My beloved dogfather
>>689137
not really. For scandi grinds, you want a flat stone. You can use a rod in a pinch - don't worry about the preset angles, but a flat stone is better.
rate
>>689486
That's a really nice collection for a bong... You don't want to be catched carrying that stuff
>>689527
not a bong m8
>>689531
Never seen a black opinel. Looks awesome.
I don't own it yet but I've only heard good ( or better ) things about Buck's "Camp Compadre" froe.Buck's website sells it for $160 but Walmart's website has them for around 70.
>>689543
eh, its more of a light grey actually, wish it was carbon steel though
>>689544
looks interesting but isnt the point of a froe that the handle is 90 degrees to the blade?
>>689527
Why does everyone get the uk carry law wrong. If you have a legit reason to carry. Then it's fine. I carry mine whenever I go wild camping,never had any trouble.
>>689561
because it will get replies
>>689437
>endoftheworld+sixteen
>still being this triggered over a deliberate misspelling
>avoiding threads because triggered
Really, anon? I kinda feel bad for you.
>>689561
Because the meme is real and your country has one of the most restricted knife laws in the world.
>>689418
Any ones I should look at? I can only find 3 sided ones
Am I a huge douchebag for wanting a Grayman Sub Saharan 10 as an outdoors knife?
The one on the left.
>>689574
those handles look like they were designed by an edgy twelve year old...
and it doesn't make you a douchebag, just silly.
At this point, you might as well get a tracker - if you;re gonna go full retard, do it with style.
>>689414
Fallkniven DC4 stone for basic
Spyderco Sharpmaker to make your life easier.
>>689574
Maybe.
Grayman gives me bad vibes.
They look heavy, unwieldy, uncomfortable and like they dont cut for shit.
Id still buy one though for the collection.
>>689574
Single bevel are absolute shit for most everything, despite what Grayman says.
What's so special about those knives aside from the good marketing and some pictures of them in the military?
Just a reminder that most real operators use issue knives or decent but cheap things they can easily replace, not some gayman knife.
any good small full tang knives? like shorter then a mora classic ?
>>689611
esee izula 2?
tops msk 2.5?
What's your budget? What kind of knife are you looking for?
>>689617
something small, for food prep and light woordwork, like feather sticks and such. and i just prefer smaller knives i guess
>>689618
then you probably want something 3 inches long, and uncoated. Don't go too short, or it will be a detriment to food prep.
I'd recommend something like this, but I still don't know if you fancy spending $150 on a small knife.
On the low end, you can get something like a condor mini bushlore (around 35 bucks) - they can be a little hit or miss at times, but the design is pretty solid.
Add to that the izula/msk I already mentioned, and pick something in your price bracket.
>>689624
If food prep is involved I'd always recommend TWO knives.
A stainless steel folder - I'd say an Opinel as they're lightweight but they're not the easiest to clean if you gunk up the pivot.
A carbon steel fixed knife. By not using it on food prep it means you can be a bit more carefree in its use and maintenance - don't have to worry about food safe oils etc.
>>689625
it's always a good idea to have two knives, wether food prep is involved, or not (it usually is).
Good grind for skinning birds like pheasant and pigeon?
>>689625
Seconding this. It's tough to completely clean things while out. A dedicated food knife ensures that only food comes into contact with my food. I use a thin, light stainless steak knife from the dollar store.
>>689572
I agree to that. It's stupid,doesn't keep anyone safe and punishes people who may need them.
>>689587
I was looking at the edgemaker and thought why not just learn to freehand? Ideally down the road I'd like to get a machine or one of the kits that locks the bade in place because I know from experience I'll never sharpen as good as a machine. Filing chainsaws has taught me that
>>689457
Do you know who made that sheath?
Where it came from? did it come with the knife?
I have one in the exact same style for my B11 but I couldnt find a source on the sheath
>>689724
Because you dont need to file nor grind a knife blade, you need to sharpen it, which requires a much more contained , precise and smooth action.
Trust me, DC4 for field stone, Sharpmaker for home.
If you want to go ful autismo you have those japanese stones and some compounds to strop knives on leather.
Wanting to know how to sharpen freehand is not contradictory with having a sharpener that makes your life easy.
I can sharpen my knives freehand with my DC4 but you will never ever get as good an edge or as precise as if you did it with help (sharpmaker angles, big stone flat surface, etc...)
pic is my okc air force survival knife.
>>688923
nice, how long have you had it? and did you make that sheath yourself or did it come with the knife?
>>689081
What exactly is the handle made of? I know I have seen the material before but I can not remember what it
>>689742
Handle is made of G10
>>689742
>What exactly is the handle made of?
G10, a fiberglass laminate
>>689482
>>689418
>>689573
I'm looking for a sharpening stone to take backpacking. Any recommendations?
My puukko
>>689742
Yeah told a lie mine is actually a MOD RAF survival knife. I think they were designed to cut though fuselages.
I actually bought it about a week ago. The scabbard is the standard issue original one. Could do with giving it a sharpen before I take it out.
>>688737
>>689752
Spyderco double stuff is amazing highly highly recommend it. Had one for years /out/ and keeps all my tools sharp
Second would be fallkniven dc4, but lately there have been alottt of quality control complaints so your mileage may vary
>>689731
Sounds good thanks for the info. Would it be worth it to grab a basic edgepro for home use over the spyderco system? I've seen a few used ones for sale for decent prices or is there any other similar systems that'd be good. I appreciate someone not telling me to go freehand cause even local stores are telling me I should just learn freehand and it was getting to my head. I don't have much experience with knives only chainsaws like you said so I thought spending the money on a nice system would be a good idea. Got a lot of knives that need to be sharpened and never even thought about my kitchen knives which are all pretty bad
>>689731
Also; I always looks at all the different grits that come with kits and how many do I actually need to use? I've seen the lansky that has like 6 or 7 different things to sharpen one knife? Do I really need all those different grits?
Look what I just got
>>689531
What's on the back of that Leatherman folder? Is it some random tool?
It looks like a decent knoife, but I haven't heard a ton about Leathermans besides multitools. Are their other blades any good?
>>689983
My most used tool is my leatherman charge. It's pretty beat up but I use it daily and the knife itself is pretty good. Nothing to go home about but best present I've ever received.
Ordered pic related.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00004WFTD/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Seems like it'd be good for a pack. Guess we'll see.
>>689983
>>689993
Ahh, so that's what is on the back. Cool. I wasn't sure if it was a bottle opener or screwdriver or something. It is a Leatherman after all.
My Buck Hood Punk
>>689726
The busse family ships their blades with tactical cardboard sheaths. Is there a maker's mark on your sheath?
![Trench-Knife-2010-1comp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tnY3QNG.jpg "Trench-Knife-2010-1comp[1].jpg")
any modern manufacturer of something like this?
>>690148
Trench sak?
>>689101
Leathermans suck compared to Victorinox. Both of those SAKs are grst choices if they speak to you. Personally I am not a fan of the wavy edge blades. They are sharp and cut super well for longer, but they are too hard to sharpen. I'd rather have a straight edge that dulls faster but is easier to sharpen.
Deluxe Tinker is good, but I personally would rather have a model with a saw over those dinky pliers. And I'd rather have a corkscrew over a Phillips screwdriver because you can always use a flathead screwdriver on a Philips screw.
And sometimes I go camping with wine. So the tool choice is really what you see yourself using the most.
>>690168
>Leathermans suck compared to Victorinox.
it does and it does not depends on which is more important durability or ergonomics
>>690001
RIP
>>690168
They don't suck if you need pliers, which are like the most useful fuckin multi tool next to scissors.
Personally I LOVE my Leatherman Juice S2.
>>690168
>sometimes I go camping with wine
buying wine that uses cork in 2016
Stop raping the rain forests. Every reputable winery has stopped using cork.
>>690209
>The countries that produce the most cork include Portugal, Algeria, Spain, Morocco, France, Italy and Tunisia.
notice the lack of rainforesty countries?
>>690192
actually that's the worst issue with leatherman multitools the week pliers.
two kinds of leatherman pliers one has weak pliers that snap the other has a weak joint that will give and deform.
if all you need is pliers then go victorinox. it's the other tools that are awfully badly accessible on a victorinox compared to a leatherman hat usually has one handed opening on main tools and better designed ergos overall.
>>690216
>produce
Raw materials can be harvested and imported. ...fools that rely on wiki for their information
>>690188
>RIP
I don't understand
>>690001
Is it any good? I love buck knives but I'm hesitant about it.
>>689618
>for food prep and light woordwork, like feather sticks and such
Why the heck do you need full tang for this? You could get a Opinel #8 in carbon steel for $10 and be done with it.
Anything similar to this with lockback?
I'm not going to do any hard duty so maybe I'll be fine with this.
recently bought one of thes... she is fucking sharp kanaifu.
>>690261
have fun batoning with this shit
>>690265
I never felt the need of batoning a sausage, cheese or a steak, which are pretty much the only things I cut with a folding knife when I'm camping.
>>690264
memes within memes
baron Harkonnen would be proud of this gay knife.
>>690209
No... no they have not. I think you are just drinking shit wine.
>>690277
>shit wine
You certainly told me. My supply of MD and Boone's Farm is running low, I guess I should push my cart over to the lickher store.
>>690001
Funny how these knives form Buck are designed and in memory of Ron Hood but the man actually used Busse knives, not Bucks
>>690016
No but it's exactly like that Dogfather's,so if you could tell me where it came from I'd assume mine is from the same maker
>>690265
You're a special snowflake brand of dumbass.
>>689977
Pls reply
>>690236
To be honest the only things I've done with it so far are batoning and some whittling. I've yet to put it through hard labor. But they edge has held very well so far.
>>690314
>batoning
>yet to put it through hard labor
*groan*
>>689997
you can get a c33 model with a screwdriver bit end on the other side as well, might be a few mm thicker though.
Is it possible to replace the phillips screwdriver in pic related for a corkscrew?
>>690277
Maybe you should have a long walk down to a vineyard and actually talk to people who know about wine. I'm not saying I'm an expert but most decent winemakers will use a cork over a screw top. That's all I'm going to say on the matter.
>>690370
They got that model with a corkscrew instead of the phillips,
>>690375
Noice knife anon but not for innawoods tasks. For edc in the other hand is great.
>>690345
Batoning soft wood isn't hard abuse.
>>690399
>>690406
>>689486
whats the small one?
>>690404
This post just demonstrates you have poor knowledge of both batoning and what a soft wood is.
>Batoning
Can anyone explain to me what this is good for?
>>690422
breaking your knife? idk lol
>>690386
Does it have a different model name? Every single trekker I find has the phillips.
>>690430
victorinox trailmaster one hand, at least thats the yurop name, not sure about us.
>>690430
or Forrester one hand
>>689982
stainless steel. why anon, why?
my folder
ah found the perfect edc folder, enzo pk70 scandi grind.
just look at it
>>690461
Looks awesome for cutting your fingers
>>690452
is that a saw?
>>690467
yap
>>690261
Case Trapperlock looks very similar but it's a liner lock. If you're set on lock back the Case Copperlock if pretty nice. I edc a slipjoint and I think it's just fine though
>>690192
I was specifically talking about the little baby pliers on the Tinker, you dingus.
Although the Juice kind of sucks. I had one and it rusted solid after a year I spent in bone dry Africa, with no water spilled on it. Fail.
>>690462
better?
>>690482
ok, just checking :D
>>690445
What's wrong with stainless?
>>690584
doesn't rust as easily as carbon
>>690600
Disgusting
>>690602
Tasty
>>690602
DEAL WITH IT BROWE
pic is highly scientific study 5000 world scientists confirm carbon is better at rusting, deal with it stainlessfags!!!!!!
There much difference between the Mora Companion and the Carpenter? There's a bundle on Amazon with their Laplander and the Carpenter for cheap
>>690605
>Carpenter
Could you link it? I see mora craftline and some bahco carpenters.
>>690609
http://www.amazon.com/Bahco-396-LAP-Laplander-Folding-Carpenter/dp/B00HQNJQ1I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1455758529&sr=8-2&keywords=bahco+laplander
For all I know it is the Craftline, maybe they just titled it strangely
>>689977
>>690311
I don't know what I'm talking about, but here's your reply
You probably want at least a coarse and fine. If you get a little knick in the blade or it gets really dull, you will spend a month trying to get a good edge with a real fine grit.
One of those 3pc sets looks decent, but I don't think I could go full autism and get some 9pc extra special hone n' strop extravaganza. I just have a coarse and fine diamond thing, but the fine isn't crazy fine, I could probably use a ceramic deal for that razor edge.
>>690610
that looks like the bahco knife, I happen to have that on hand....
4in blade
about 2mm thick
came fine, very sharp
Companion is a smidge shorter, but can come thicker at 3+mm depending on the model.
No comment on the tang, too lazy to figure that out, sorry.
>>690618
Alright, thank you
Hey /kg/
In a recent thread on this board I saw some people recommending a knife that I can't for the life of me remember the name of. It's an older, discontinued knife made by either Schrade or Kershaw that can be had for $20 or less on ebay, commonly found with an orange handle. IIRC had 'elk' in the name but can't find what I'm looking for.
>>690696
forgot to mention it's a folder.
>>690696
Kershaw antelope and or bear hunter
Super good knives for the money, I can't imagine why they would discontinue themx theyh were popular from what I've seen
>>690604
I'd just take carbon for ease of sharpening. Maintenance is easy enough.
Though don't get me wrong, i have no beef against stainless.
looking for a 4-5 in fixed blade.
Need it for batoning, and tearing up wood
def. full tang
Around $100, no more $125, ~75ish preferred
>>690723
Schrade schf48d
>>688833
Ugh. Stupid knife laws, the only valid and good reason for having a knife, is because you felt like it. No other reason is needed. Having a knife doesn't mean that I'm going to stab you, just that I can. If really wanted to stab you even a pointy stick would do.
>>689103
DMT Diafold. For the money, size, weight and usefulness it's good choice. I use one with my D2 Knives of Alaska and it sharpens them up nice, not that they need much sharpening since they hold the edge really well.
>>690461
>perfect
>slipjoint, no lock
>CPM S30 V in full skandi, have fun sharpening that
>>690735
in sweden anything that potentially can be used as a weapon is illegal, unless you have a good reason.
So you can't walk around with a pen in settings where there is no chance you'll need it.
The law was made this way so the police can arrest known violent people for nothing, before they do anything. I know, it's stupid.
>>688865
its funny you mention becker QC. i got this BK2 for Christmas and it actually came blunt. i couldnt cut a piece of string. love it tho, great knife. i use it a lot
Can someone explain to me the appeal of a Sebenza?
Also, are Moraknivs as good as people say they are?
>>690771
i've never seen any knife with a factory edge that was worth a shit. my beckers came dull too but that shit sharpens up so good.
/out/,
I'm a blacksmith, and i'm looking for ideas for knives. What are some good designs? I had a hard-on for Seaxes for a while until I realized how much better other designs are.
I'm going to forge a few Puukko blanks this weekend, what else should I throw in?
>>690777
make me a knife i don't care if it sucks
>>690776
no, it wasnt dull, it was BLUNT
>>690780
Let me perfect my heat treat and I may do a giveaway with one of the Puukkos.
It'll be along the lines of the picture, with a solid mahogany grip.
>>690777
The world needs more beefy nessmuk knives anon. Be the hero the world needs
>>690791
What advantages does this design have? Are they thick?
I'm close to finishing a really thick clip-point bowie for a customer. And i'm realizing that thicker knives are the shit. Not only because they'll last longer (i'd presume), but they're a hell of a lot harder to fuck up in the forging process.
>>690786
i don't care if you send me a shitty one that isn't right
>>690796
Elaborate?
>>690797
man that's a pretty to the point statement
i just want some hand made shit from /out/
>>690773
>Can someone explain to me the appeal of a Sebenza?
Same appeal as a Porsche. Expensive, sleek, never used for the jobs they were intended (racing/cutting shit)
>Also, are Moraknivs as good as people say they are?
For the price, yes.
>>690763
so, basically, it's a weaponised Morton's Fork?
>>690800
I didn't understand the last part ("that isn't right").
I'll be arouns /out/, let's link up when I actually have some free shit to give away.
>>690786
Beautiful.
I think the thing I like least about custom knifemakers is that they'll build this beautiful knife but then give you no sheath, or a really crappy sheath.
If you get good, you should either learn to make good leather or kydex sheaths, or partner with someone who does.
>>690807
ah i mean like, i'd still want it if it was messed up.
>>690776
My old 90's and early 2000s Cold Steels are the sharpest out of the box knives I own.
My SRK which I never use is sharp as a motherfucker, not only shaves my girly hair but it almost cuts my skin while at it.
Also Chris Reeve has great factory edges.
Fällkniven also.
>>690777
The world needs affordable, traditional-looking military "tactical" knives.
Knives between 4 and 6 inches that are light and can be carried in a vest.
If you do serrations, do them on the spine.
Something tough but not heavier than 9 oz.
Also good-looking, without weird shapes or with more noble materials instead of spikes and g10 everywhere.
Look up Winkler Knives to see what I mean.
I'd be your customer
>>690808
That really pisses me off. I believe that a knife isn't complete until it has a sheath. A sheath should be partnered with the knife. I make knives to be used, not to be put on display.
I'm okay at making leather sheaths, I've got form fitting them down to the point where the way they hold a knife almost as well as Kydex (depending on the style of grip, of course).
From what i've gathered, Kydex is pretty easy to work with. I've stayed away from it because I've always had a hard on for pre-1970's tools, but i'm realizing that kydex is the way forward as far as quality sheaths for every day use knives go.
I'm working on a design that incorperates aspects of a seax, khukuri, and some of the newer benchmades (lower at the base of the spine to help with fine carving by putting your thumb on the spine).
I'll post some pictures when I get around to forging it.
>>690810
Oh, okay. I usually just melt down knives that aren't passable (have a crack, warp, ground too much, etc). If I end up with an ugly one, i'll try to find you on here and we can set something up.
A knife with cracks or warps is basically useless. Especially for someone who will (hopefully) use it.
>>690815
outinnawoods@gmail
>>690814
This. so much this. just make copies and don't price gouge. keep it under 80 and i'll buy one on principle.
>>690815
Literally just watched Forged in Fire. Good blacksmithing show.
>>690814
The problem with light knives is that you have to begin changing some of the fundamentals. For instance, make them half-tang, drill holes in the tang, do a spike-tang, create an alloy/use other metals in conjunction with HC steel, use non-traditional materials for the grips (fiberglass, balsa, plastic, synthetic rubber, or no grips at all), or make the knife thinner.
I'd like to be able to make what you're talking about one day. Sadly, i'm nowhere good enough/don't have the equiptment to do it right now.
I'm not saying it can't be done, it just opens the door for problems/extensive R&D.
I'll keep this in mind though. Who knows, this may be the idea that makes me famous.
>>690821
I liked season 1, for the most part. I had a few problems with it, though. The first being that Ryu guy.
>forge is literally a satelite dish
>can't get over his mid-2000's anime street fighter style of dress
>leaves halfway through for some reason, then comes back like nothing happened
>"the one thing they don't know about me is, i'm badass with an angle grinder"
>his axe looked like absolute shit
A few of the winners had absolutely no craftsmanship (see above), it looked like they took an angle grinder to a piece of barstock.
But, "eet will cut".
I'm really looking forward to season 2.
>>690826
You could perhaps buy slabs of the desired steel and just grind them to shape instead of forging your own thing.
VG10 is adequate and is not very expensive.
Also I dont think drilling holes in the tang is too bad for the use those knives will see.
Gunkote is by far the best coating for knives that I know, and that is relatively cheap also.
I'd love to do it myself but I dont have the means, I wouldnt care to design knives for you if you make them.
>>690815
>That really pisses me off. I believe that a knife isn't complete until it has a sheath. A sheath should be partnered with the knife. I make knives to be used, not to be put on display.
That's good to hear. You're doing it right. I like leather sheaths the most myself personally, because I'm not into tactical knives. And you're right that a leather sheath done right can hold a knife really well.
A kydex sheath would be fine with a hard-wearing handle like fiberglass or micarta, but do you think it would eventually mar a wooden handle too much, with enough insertions/removals? That hard plastic against the wood might be like sandpaper.
>>690820
I don't know if I could do it for under 80. I try to keep my prices fair (the main reason why I staeted blacksmithing was because I couldn't afford handmade knives), but there is a point where the costs are high enough that I can't make any profit (cost of propane, belts for my sanders, good quality steel, wood [which can be cancelled out if I use something cheap, harvested, and/or readily available], as well as the time I put into it).
As I said above, I try to make it so the average person can afford my stuff, there's just some cases where I have to charge what feels like too much. Which is why i'm going to be making the Puukkos. They're an easy shape, I have a fuckton of mahogany that I got for free, and I should be able to do them in batches.
Anyway, i'm going to F5 this one more time and go to bed. I'm going to stop making sense soon. If this thread isn't archived in the morning, i'll reply to whatever I missed.
>>690830
Oh yeah that guy. My god, can't believe he won. Just watched ep1 of season 2.
They make a War Hammer
>>690833
All pf this is correct. I definitely could. The easiest/cheapest way would to be to get in touch with someone with a CNC machine or programmable plasma cutter and have them cut the blanks out, then i'd just grind them by hand and do all of the fun parts. I'll screencap this for future reference.
Is gunkote like cerakote? I usually just oil quench my knives and leave that on the spine (I sharpen after my quench). It works well enough, if the user takes into account that I use high carbon steel and takes care of it accordingly. Pic related, the finish on a knife i'm almost done with.
>I don't have the means
I know this feel, and struggled with it for a while. I have my forge at my parents', who live in the suburbs. But i'm a poorfag and made it work. Look up "devil forge". That's a cheap, but amazing, forge. You can make a blacksmithing setup for not a ton of money, surprisingly. I'll go further into it tomorrow, assuming this thread is still up.
>>690835
I believe that customer service should always come first. And part of that is selling a quality, complete piece. Cutting $15 off of a $300 commission and adding an hour of work is completely worth it if I can sleep that night knowing that my customer recieved a complete product.
If the finish on the grips is good enough, it won't be an issue. I use cyanoacrylate right now, and it's tough as hell. I may switch to lacqeur or UV finish soon, if it's more durable. The easiest way to keep the grips in good shape is to sand and polish the Kydex so there aren't ant rough edges to drag on the wood.
>>690846
cerakote is like a "crayon" , a bit waxy.
It doesnt stick well to steel and worst of all, it stains whatever you're cutting, including food.
Gunkote is more like "dust". It wears extremely well, it's very durable and even in eroded areas the coating is still there, just with less density.
Take a look at a worn black Fällkniven with cerakote and a worn Chris Reeve for reference.
Gunkote is by far superior and surprisingly not expensive.
>>690846
I'd be interested to know more, anon. How are you heat treating and what kind of heat treat are you going for?
Also, have you considered a modern leukko design? If puukko works for you in terms of simplistic design then a leukko might hold some appeal.
I can picture a 6-7" blade, a chubby rat tang and a slender ovalled mahogany grip,with (matching carbon) steel end cap peened on. Sell with simple folded kydex sheath.
Another great design is the little knife. Something like the bark river imp, could be super popular at a lower price. Full size handle with a sub size blade makes for a great little carving hard use knife
>>689991
i believe having the means to sharpen a blade is crucial. while im familiar with conventional means, a few days ago i tested to see whether gritty toothpaste could double as a way to hone a blade. using a piece of glass and toothpaste smothered on like a paint palette, with a very old pocket knife, motioning the blade like you would a ceramic. i was able to hone the blade to sharpen paper (roughly) where it was not able to before. just something to consider
>>690893
to shave paper
>>690893
Any abrasive material or substance can be used. If have thought toothpaste would nt be desirable due to irregular particle size, cost and presence of other chemicals.
>>690893
Oh awesome, thanks for the info. Never would have thought to use toothpaste.
I would have reached for a rock
>>690942
yes a rock is possible. i wanted to try toothpaste to transform any level layer into an consistent abrasive surface
>>690846
Post more of your work pal. I'm trying to get into knifemaking myself. The only part I'm struggling with is learning how to actually grind the blade. I've only just made my third knife, but I'm not doing a great job lol.
>>690805
>Same appeal as a Porsche. Expensive, sleek, never used for the jobs they were intended (racing/cutting shit)
My biggest dream is to own and drive a classic pre-90's Porche.
What does Sebenza has to do with Porsche? A Porsche will beat any regular car at any time in looks and performance, Sebenza is no better than a regular knife. It's just expensive.
>>690882
I'm using vegitable oil for a quench, and then annealing at 400 for 1-1.5 hours, resulting in an RH of about 50-55, if I remember correctly. The steel comes out a straw color.
I've had problems with the quench in the past, which is why i need the practice hardening. And also seekng the performance of knives after being annealed at different temperatures.
>>690959
Grinding is the fucking worst. What's your setup like? Just remember to lock your arms in and move with your hips and knees in order to get a matching angle. I had to sharpen >>690846 with an angle grinder because my piece of shit harbor freight sander has 1/3 HP and didn't do dick.
Here's a picture of a knife I made for my mom. I needed the practice, so I asked her a few questions about what she needed in a knife for the kitchen. This knife is pretty ugly, but she loved it, and hasn't had to sharpen it once in the six months she's had it. She uses it for deboning.
>>690967
What he's saying is, porshes are really nice, they're expensive, and those who buy them never actually push them as hard as they're meant to be pushed. I know this is a fact here (I live in wine country). Every time i'm on my way outtacity and innawoods I have to pass a ton of wineries on a higheay, where the speed limit is 55, and there is ALWAYS some 65+ year old asshole in a porche doing 30, lookin at wineries.
What i'm trying to say is, porches are fast and nobody actually drives them fast.
I think that's what anon said.
>>690978
>the speed limit is 55, and there is ALWAYS some 65+ year old asshole in a porche doing 30
I have to deal with the same thing everyday, that's just how some old people drive. It's very annoying when you have to switch down to high RPM, but you have to keep in mind that you'll be that old guy one day.
The truth is if I'll ever buy a Sebenza I will not use it for anything. That's where you're right. I just wonder if Sebenza can outperform all cheaper knives and I don't think it can.
We're on the same side. Let's stop arguing.
>>690975
I think I have a decent setup for a beginner actually, just no skill lol. I've got a craftsman 2x42 and I picked up some nice ceramic belts too. I think not moving with my hips and knees is a lot of my problem, and I think the craftsman runs a little too fast for my preference.
I also made a jig and I still have a hard time getting a straight grind. Pic related is my jig if you care.
>>691008
What's helped me in the past is try to isolate your movements. Lock everything and only move on one axis at a time (i.e. Only moving on the Y axis, holding the x and z still).
I may post a video on youtube or something.
In the mean time, look it up on youtube. There are a few good videos on there from master smiths.
>>690975
That symbol on the handle looks familiar.
>>690975
did you used to make railroad knife threads on /k?
>>691090
I don't know but I'm sure I've seen it before.
>>691099
I've seen it. But maybe not the original source.
Cher son had a band called Deadsy. He went by the name Phillips Exeter Blue and used that symbol.
>>691103
Or something similar anyway.
>>690422
There's a long-standing difference of opinion on how to approach gear. Some would rather carry more items that are well specialized, others would rather carry fewer general-use items. The former wants to carry a more delicate knife plus a hatchet, the latter wants a beefier knife that can serve both purposes.
Is there any good reason to be the second guy? If you're doing some kind of challenge where your number of items is limited. Most people are doing it because it's a meme. If imitation were very important to you, you wouldn't have asked for a justification.
It's something cool to be able to do, and there's a very slim chance that being able to do it will save your life. But that's true of damn near anything, so it doesn't mean much.
>>691115
Oh, I was way off.
I'm looking for suggestions for a picnic folding knife for food prep.
I always used my Opinel but carbon steel gets rusty and friends bitch about that. It is also tedious to clean in the part of the lock.
So looking for something simple, cheap, stainless steel, thin blade, with an easy to clean design. Also lock because my friends aren't very bright.
>>689063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqREfK0rrwk
>>691141
wtf, havnt laughed so hard in like 6 weeks
>>691131
do thouse doukdouk things lock? a lock is always goung to make things more complicated to clean and an opinel is about as simple as you can possibly get, so i would advise just getting a stainless opinel
>>691131
Honestly? A little fixed knife would be the easiest. If you're going to go for a folder then consider a frame or liner lock as it often has an 'open' design which is easier to clean than a back-locking knife.
Knife that jumps to mind would be the Boker Urban Trapper. Sexy, too.
>>690231
Hood died
>>691169
lethermyan
>>691169
full video btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YauRRiPps4s
>>691170
Douk douk doesn't lock but as far as I know the spring is rather strong and I actually like the design, but I'd rather it as an EDC because I find it really elegant looking.
>>691216
Maybe a fixed blade is the way to go. I always associate them with a big knife stuck in your belt, and I rarelly use a belt, so if I can find something small enough to drop it into my pocket or with a sheat that features a clip I'll probably get it.
>>691235
Honestly I'd just say get a stainless steel mora. They weigh nothing, their kydex sheaths are decent, stainless is going to be good for food prep, and if needs be you can use it for other camp tasks too.
>>691131
Dollar store stainless steel small kitchen knife
>Q: 'm planning on buying some sharpening stones. Should I need anything else other than a grit 240/800 stone and a grit 2000/5000 to start out with? I'm thinking that I would still need something between 240 and 800.
pic unrelated
>>688737
just picked up pic related off amazon
>should i buy a strop?
>should i buy a guide?
>anything else to look at for babbys first sharpening system?
>>691309
>>should i buy a strop?
Not a bad idea. I use the back of an old belt. Works good.
>>should i buy a guide?
Looks like it comes with one.
>>anything else to look at for babbys first sharpening system?
A cheap knife to practice on?
>>691001
>I just wonder if Sebenza can outperform all cheaper knives and I don't think it can.
That's not what I was saying, I was indeed saying that people don't use their Sebenzas for anything except looking pretty on a shelf, or maybe cutting cardboard.
>>690507
final, bought this, the carbon looks a bit more modern and under the radar in an office setting.
D2 steel should be easier to sharpen, not that scandi grinds are hard to sharpen...
Size is as large as you can go, so it's final.
>>691319
Didn't think of an old belt actually. Good Idea.
Ive got a cheap sog to practice on but it is partially serrated so there isnt much non serrated to it. I guess I can play around with my kitchen knives too.
I was just wondering if it was worth getting a decent guide that changes angles for some of my other tools. What would be a good system for sharpening serrations by the way? Almost seems like I should have gotten the spyderco system just for that
>>690422
SPLITING WOOD MUTHA FUCKA! maybe you don't have an axe or don't have the room for one.
The deodorant is for point of reference. This knife can take a beating and is perfect for Battoning. It's thick spine and wide blade make it the perfect out door knife.
>>691343
Why would you have wood to split in the woods in the first place? You're not going to have logs so big you need to split them for a fire, unless you have a way to cut trees into logs in the first place, which you don't because you said you don't have an axe.
>>691284
>tfw You'll never roughly fuck her in the woods
>>691343
Hatchet
There's no reason not to carry one with you, and they're more important than any big hunting knife.
A hatchet and a GP folder is all you need
>>691352
unless you had a nifty pocket saw to go with you knife. then you could baton smaller logs that you've cut. i ain't say its practical but it is doable
>>691635
however a big hunting knife is better then nothing at all right? and your right hatchet, not axe.
>>691682
Sure, a big hunting knife works well enough, and the GP ones can be used for splitting timber.
However, a basic hatchet is way cheaper, and a hatchet plus a folder for cleaning and cutting would run about the same price as a big hunting knife
I carry a hunting knife on my belt when walking and working the property, and it's useful, but if I'm camping, I'll swap it out for a hatchet in a second.
>>691328
For angles, i don't use a guide. I go by feel/sight, so i can't really help you on the angle part.
I've seen some people who use perminent marker on their knife edge, then sharpen. By doing this they can see if the stone is taking steel off on the complete edge. (note: will probably stain stone, not sure if it will clog stone extra. If you are gonna do this, maybe do it on a cheap stone from a hardware store. Once you get good free hand angles then go to good stone without marker.)
For serrarions, maybe a diamond rod? Get just the lansky system serration piece? I'm not too sure.
