Starting a collection. Post useful shit
>>673640
>>673641
3/??
>>673642
4/??
>>673644
>>673645
>>673640
Still have to boil it. Be easier to just filter through a piece of cloth, boil the thing.
>>673640
Good idea OP, got any more? Dumping a few.
>>673668
>>673670
I live near ocean so ...
Solar version, fire version is similar
>>673673
>>673678
I liek tarpz
>>673645
Why?
>>673823
I've never used one but I imagine ease of cooking with green branches and that it's easy to clean up.
>>673823
I'm guessing because it would be easier to keep it going during heavy winds.
dumping...
>>673894
this is only as useful as someone else's understanding.
>>673953
>eyy mate, take the haft by the knob, grip the throat, and take a swinger at the bit. Don't let the beard go too low, might blow out an eye.
>>673893
I'm sorry but does this really need posting?
If you don't know this basic shit you really shouldn't go out.
I get 'everyone needs to learn' but really?
I've actually done this and it works pretty well. The bigger the encloser the better. Narrow openings. Takes a lot of time to build but worth it in a well populated body of water
I always thought these were a tad gimmicky. Don't carry one myself but when you think about all the items you can pack into it, it actually seems like a decent idea.
Takes a long time, and is a poor substitute for educating yourself thoroughly about edible plants, but in an emergency and without proper knowledge I can see how this would be useful.
I have no clue where you can just find clumps of iron under water apparently lol but I thought this graphic was very interesting. I have no related knowledge though, this would take some more research to pull off
This particular filter makes use of the "good bacteria method" which it mentions briefly but I have no experience with. I consider this infographic a decent start in simply learning about primitive walter filtration. Perhaps this graphic could be used as a template for one that incorporates a final stage of charcoal of varying fineness?
Very basic list of items for the beginner. Start with this on a couple over night camping trips if you have no experience, after which you'll be able to improve upon it.
No substitute for a simple red cross CPR class. And this infographic does not mention the "chin lift, head tilt" technique which is vital in cpr, but it's better than nothing.
You guys got any for desert environments?
I'll post more later but I feel a fap coming on
>>674147
Last time I went to a CPR class, required by my work, it was "hands only" no breath. The guy teaching it was kinda old but he was like "now it's hands only, last time it was 30 compression's 2 breaths, before that it was 15 comp 2 breaths, before that it was 5 comp 1 breath"
just saying not criticizing or anything.
>>674149
dont get lost in the desert for starters
wear long clothes that breathe but keep you from the sun
full brim hat + glasses
socks + trail sandals is probably the GOAT
drink some cactus juice
pray
realize the nights are gonna be cold as fuck
>>673701
great for setting tarps up over hammocks
>>674072
And how do you expect people to know? By learning. Anon is posting a resource for people to learn from. You weren't born ingrained with this information, so don't expect others to have been.
>>674241
trial and error
this information is so painfully obvious to anyone who has ever attempted to use a tent stake that it should go without saying. Not even the same guy but that infographic is stupid.
>>674131
Look up bog iron.
>>673704
Do they even make tarps the shape for half of these? Looks like some guy just came up with wacky tarps that nobody has ever used and drew them
>>674657
I really, really want to believe this is bait, but I've been here too long.
>>674207
It's understandable that those figures would change in a work training/safety class. The standards have changed rapidly over the last 2-4 years. As an EMT we are taught all those figures under different circumstances. 30 comp 2 breaths is generally for 2 rescuer cpr. 15 comp 2 breaths is for one rescuer. And I've honestly never even heard of 5 comp 1 breath. I'm a lisenced RN and EMT.
dumb question, how do you do this? build the snow up or dig down?
>>674836
>RN and EMT
can't spell "licensed"...
>>673823
protection from heavy winds. hotter fires can burn wetter wood. lets you use fire without anyone being able to see your fire.
>>673642
one of these almost burnt down a god damn forest... I filled it up, and went to light it, and it went "POP" slamming into my hand and flinging fucking flaming alcohol all over the place and shit just started going up in flames. burnt a good blanket putting it all out because its all I had.
>>674859
Bro it takes 2 months to get EMT and you'd be surprised how easy RN is. I've been drinking fuck off lol
Over 200 images below. You're welcome
http://m.imgur.com/a/8HpB9
http://imgur.com/a/QZw0p
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http://imgur.com/a/mz0XK
>>673640
Would the charcoal not just mix and make your water black like coffee?
>>675381
thanks. But if you do pic-related, you are going to get rabbit shit all over yourself.
>>675520
>i whip my hare back and forth
>>673907
clever
>>674194
from the thumbnail i thought it was two tiny eskimos next to two huge gravestones
>>675531
hehehehe
>>675531
!!!
>>673823
I use it for sneaky camping, it can't be seen from miles around like a normal fire and can be put out/hidden very quickly
>>675531
good post
bump
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>>673668
So, informative illustrations by Mike Clelland! incoming!
"Ditch your stakes" 1/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 2/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 3/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 4/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 5/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 6/14
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"Ditch your stakes" 7/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 8/14
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"Ditch your stakes" 9/14
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"Ditch your stakes" 10/14
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"Ditch your stakes" 11/14
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"Ditch your stakes" 12/14
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"Ditch your stakes" 13/14
>>677728
"Ditch your stakes" 14/14
>>677763
Oh, I'm aware, trust me...
>>675414
Not OP, but yes, if the mesh isn't fine enough the charcoal will get in the water.
Some thoughts on charcoal. Activated charcoal (activated carbon) is GOAT for this, as activation means that are lots of pores in the really tiny particles, which gives a huge surface area to bind and catch bacteria and contaminates. It is absolutely safe to injest, in fact we use it in the hospital to bind poisons in the gut. It's cheap ($5/lb on ebay), will last forever if tightly sealed, and totally worth keeping on hand for DIY water filters. Even if it turned my water black I would not hesitate to drink it.
On making your own activated charcoal - just don't do it! People don't have access to the industrial equipment to make pressure-activated charcoal. There are YouTube videos on how to make chemical-activated charcoal; they use dangerous chemicals, and home ovens don't give enough heat to make the activated charcoal much better than plain charcoal.
Plain charcoal made at home from wood can be effective for water filtration, but not of much medical use. You just have to be careful, it depends on the species of wood whether it's safe. Never make plain charcoal with wood you haven't harvested yourself. Oleander, mountain laurel, cocobolo, and many others can cause massive allergic reactions or excruciating death. Any wood used for smoking meat should be relative safe for making plain charcoal. Plain charcoal is okay, but meh tier compared to activated charcoal.
Charcoal briquettes should never be used, as most are made using coal dust, which contains heavy metals and high levels of sulfur, which will give the water a rotten egg smell and taste. There are coal-free briquettes, but all briquettes use a chemical (sodium nitrite) as a release agent that turns into a cancer causing chemicals (nitrosamines) by stomach acid.
Long-winded, but I hope some anon finds this info useful.
>>677801
not the one you responded to, but thanks for the interesting read
>>677767
Roofing nail is GOAT
>>675381
Thanks anon. Will be adding to my stockpile
>>678796
careful with that edge there m8
>>674246
lel no need for trial and error when the graphic explains it.
Pretty sure you could use this info when building a hobo stove so I'll post.
>>673640
Thanks for the info thread sorry I don't have anything to contribute
>>674130
well, that sounds desperate.
I'll post some. Warning though I might repost some
>>683061
2/?
>>683062
>>683063
>>674207
yea last time i took one it was no breaths. i'm not sure i would follow that in all circumstances, especially drowning victims. since i was a beach lifeguard when i was a teen and saw it work.
but yea your right its no breaths now.
>>683074
>>683081
>>683074
why is antihistamines a do-not? benadryl can literally save your life if you have an alergic reaction. it is one of the basic medicines at this point.
>>683090
i don't really know why it's a "do-not." With these lists I just use them as guide lines and if there's a discrepancy between the list and my own knowledge/another list I either research it or go with what i know.
>>673907
poahh
>>681812
my brother died because of this and survived
>>683104
>>683090
Benadryl (diphenhydramine) would be okay for a true medical emergency allergic reaction. The problem with first generation antihistamines is the extreme sedation and hypertension they cause, especially if you're just treating sniffles. Drowsy meds obviously cause sedation. The problem with aspirin is the increased risk of bleeding, and the fact that as aspirin reacts with moisture over time, it will form a toxic compound.
>>678796
only faggots hit themselves
>>675520
>>673640
useful shit, coming right up.
Here's my entire collection, take from it what you will.
https://mega.nz/#F!4A9xXRoJ!TpCMszs3nG3npTam2xvcaA
>>683150
yea but i don't pack it for the sniffles. i pack benadryl in case i have an actual alergic reaction. and it's not like benadryl knocks you right out, no matter how much you take you should still have time to pitch your tent and get in a sleeping bag if you think your going to pass out.
in my opinion a few benadryl tabs are basic medicine in any first aid kit. they can save lives and anyone with any knowledge of basic medicine can use them to treat allergic reactions.
>>674127
>ramen
>>683085
self built grave. love it.
>>683858
I agree that Benadryl belongs in every basic first aid kit. Remember you get what you pay for in these infographics, I was just giving the pharmacological reasoning, on why the picture had antihistamines on the no go list. One caution on Benadryl, even though it doesn't knock one out immediately, using a knife while under the influence of it can be dangerous. Obviously, YMMV, and it depends on how much tolerance you've built up to it. I've seen people who use it as a sleep aid, and can function normally with enough on board to tranq on elephant.
>>674836
Can you work towards RN from EMT? I'm interested in RN but not willing to do the nursing home route.
>>684601
If in the US, you don't have to do anything involving nursing homes. I was a volunteer EMT, and when I went back to school to get my chemistry degree, I ran the computer lab and patient simulator lab at the nuring department at my four-year university.
Here's my recommendation. Get enrolled at a community college and do the two year RN program and get your degree. Get a job in nursing; if you like it and want better pay, enroll in a RN to BSN bridge program at a nursing school at a four year school. You'll save thousands of dollars by doing the first two years at community college. Additionally you'll have to put up with less garbage. A lot of straight four year students don't appreciate where they're at; the RN to BSN bridge students really seemed hungry to better themselves, and really seemed to get a lot more respect from the faculty members.
>>684607
Wrong. My first and second semester clinicals were in nursing homes. Thats 12 hours per week mandatory working as a nurse in a nursing home, but you're a student nurse, which means you do the basic shitty duties of a CNA. This is unavoidable for school.
Also, if you do an associates RN you'll have a harder time going right to a hospital. In my area no hospital will hire a new grad associate, people generally have to work long term care for about 2 years first.
Being an actual RN in a nursing home is not too bad depending on the company because the CNAs do all the shit work and you basically just pass meds and tell them what to do. But you can't avoid doing shitty CNA work in school.
>>684601
EMT is a great start and will help a lot in your RN clinical skills, but nothing about EMT prepares you for the amount of lab material and studying you have to do in order to be able to pass the complicated question type found on the NCLEX exam.
Sorry for the triple post lol just wanted to add:
Becoming a nurse is hard and sucks, but BEING one is pretty fuckin sweet when you get where u want to be. I still only have associates in nursing but I make 32 bucks an hour and only work 36 hours a week. 3, 12 hour shifts and 4 days off per week. I can live with that!
>>673641
yeah, I don't think #1 & #6 can be made with a square tarp, unless someone would like to enlighten me on how it's done
>>673823
The low oxygen flow conserves wood. Not even lying. It's also called a hobo fire (no not your typical barrel fire).
>>685198
Actually I took Anon's not wanting nursing homes as not wanting it for a job for four years, not as not wanting to perform nursing school requirements that vary by semester. But I understand the way it was phrased was up to interpretation.
>>673907
Kek
Someone shoop a fence post in there.
>>674083
'lofty' Wiseman?
>>673670
Aww, my mum taught me this when we used to go sailing. Put it in a plastic bag for splash proofing.
>>681810
I've been doing that for years, I'm already immune up to .357
>>683150
>The problem with aspirin is the increased risk of bleeding, and the fact that as aspirin reacts with moisture over time, it will form a toxic compound
Not strictly true, yes it will break down to salicylic acid and ethanoic (or acetic if you prefer) acid, but a moderate dose should be perfectly fine providing no history of stomach lining issues. What will happen is the anticoagulant function will diminish, though you can still use it as an analgesic. Generally solid medications (i.e. tabs, capsules, powders) are fine unless they are discoloured or have a distinct odour.
>>674836
IDK about in the US, but in the UK we don't do breaths anymore as it is essentially useless
>>674836
>never even heard of 5 comp 1 breath. I'm a lisenced RN and EMT
never heard of 5/1
lisenced....
RN and EMT
are you fucking kidding me?
troll successful, bait taken.
>>686185
I agree that the negatives of ASA aren't often that major, but this is for an /out/ or survival medkit. There are much safer analgesic alternatives. We both know that aspirin wouldn't be approved as an OTC if wasn't grandfathered in by the FDA. The reason it's a potentially poor choice in a medkit, is related to the increased toxicity of salicylic acid compared ASA (yes I know saclicylic acid is a metabolite). The transient ototoxicity in zinc-deficient individuals could be a hazard while out, and salicylic acid has an increase risk of intracranial bleeding compared to aspirin.
Not that I have a dog in this fight, I was just explaining to Anon why ASA was on the no-go med list.
>>678796
lf you stretch to induce sharp pain, it is likely you will damage your muscles over time, or even acutely tear them. To actually increase pain threshold, weightlifting is a good idea, but not to create immediate pain, that is just foolish and unsafe
>>686187
Breaths are pretty standard here, but vary by case. Like breaths for pediatric patients is extremely important. In a clinical setting you'll likely see non-stop breaths and compressions. Also the efficacy of breaths depends on the device you're using. Mouth to mouth being the worst
>>675531
top keked
>>683148
Has anyone got that info pic showing how to make a trigger/sear for trap using splitrings/keyrings,
Mucho appreciated
>>674127
>MRE
>half this shit needs water to cook
>>686867
Are you not aware that most MREs require water? Do you have any idea what you're talking about at all? lol
If you can't find water you've got bigger problems than starving.
>>686942
no they don't
they have like teabags and chocolate powder, but you can eat the actual meals without adding boiling water
>>687096
You can eat anything in those pictures without boiling water. Or even any water for that matter. It's going to be dry sure, but again, if you can't find water you have far bigger problems than being hungry. Stop being dense.
>>684607
As a newly graduated BSN RN, I agree with >>685189. I was hired by the hospital where I did clinicals before I graduated or took state boards. If you have the money and time, go straight for the BSN. The hospital I work for also pays better for BSN due to wanting magnet status.
>>685198
In my area (WNC) the local hospital prefers to hire RN's from 2 year colleges as the have better clinical experience. Also most of the Community College students do clinicals at hospitals.
>Source my wife is a RN Supervisor.(with a AA)
>>673645
Stealth camping today, thank you.
>>677644
what's the use of this?
>>689160
They're handy as hell... I tie them in the ends of my canoeing ropes with a small rubber ball in the center. They make the ropes easier to throw (such as over a limb or to someone in the water) and give you a handle to hang on to.
>>674194
You're more likely to get buried alive trying this.
>>674084
this looks actually decent.
would carry magnesium fire starter instead of matches.
>>681813
What happens? I am scared to try.
>>689616
You get light headed and are likely to faint.
Saw similar post on /b/ when I was in high school, ended up having to go to the hospital after I fainted, fell back and hit my head on the wall, and then seized on the kitchen floor in front of my family
>>689616
you'll shit yourself.
>>673894
lol
>>686184
are you even trying?i blocked 338 lapua mag several times
>>689620
>>689616
If you follow the directions exactly, you will actually fall over and black out for 4-8 seconds. You completely lose consciousness and are disoriented upon waking. The effects are over very quickly. The main dangers are that you lose all muscle control and thus fall, possibly hitting your head. Also if you try this on drugs or too drunk you may not even wake up.
>>674130
lol damn
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>>675981
I chuckled
>>691116
All those exclamation points!
It's obnoxious!
>>681813
There is a better way of doing this.
Take a very deep breath and hold
Clench your anus and tighten all muscles including your anus, abs fists etc
Within 10 seconds you will experience lethargy
>>681814
fell for a rick roll for the first time in years not too long ago. and now this shit? what's with the resurgence of these old memes?
>>689180
they're also good for beating enterprising trash pandas into submission.
>>677801
Actually, interesting read there. Thanks
>>674130
not eating anything but a small piece of plant for 16 hours seems pretty fucked
>>677801
i'm not 100% on the following, so dont blame me if you have shit happen. in a survival situation could be useful though. i am fairly sure that all edible fruit tree wood, and any tree with edible sap (birch and maple for example), can be used to make charcoal. also fairly sure that evergreens should not be used at all.
