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Old thread: >>696039

Companion Planting - Raised Beds - Vertical Gardening - Square Foot Gardening - Polyculture -

Composting - Mulching - Vermiculture - Espalier - Fungiculture - Aquaponics - Greenhouses - Cold

Frames - Hot Boxes - Polytunnels - Forest Gardening - Aquaculture

Resources:

Murray Hallam’s Aquaponics: (sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0 )

-Aquaponics Secrets DVD
-Aquaponics Made Easy DVD
-DIY Aquaponics DVD (Aquaponics The First 12 Months And Aquaponics DIY DVD)

Backyard Aquaponics
https://kat.cr/backyard-aquaponics-t4385398.html

400+ PDF BOOKS ON GARDENING
https://kat.cr/400-pdf-books-on-gardening-t3324399.html

Youtube channel Growingyourgreens, tons of videos on almost every single gardening subject,
https://www.youtube.com/user/growingyourgreens

Ollas clay pot watering system,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNxACJ9vPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKq5geEM-A

USA Time of Year Planting Guide,
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/what-to-plant-now-zl0z0903zalt.aspx

Food preservation,
http://nchfp.uga.edu/
https://kat.cr/complete-book-of-home-preserving-pdf-gooner-t10069401.html
https://kat.cr/canning-and-preserving-all-in-one-for-dummies-2011-mantesh-t5998098.html
http://www.allamerican-chefsdesign.com/admin/FileUploads/Product_49.pdf

Mushrooms, (culinary and psychoactive):
https://kat.cr/usearch/Stamets/

Mother Earth News' Vegetable Garden Planner program, (full version requires yearly subscription $fee)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/garden-planner/vegetable-garden-planner.aspx

Tons of Gardening/Farming PDFs
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=35
Aquaponics
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=32
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>>705361
US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones,

etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs,

butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps
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70 days before the average last frost here but we've got a long stretch of above freezing temps forecasted (thanks global warming) so I threw some peas in a planter just hoping to get some sprouts going. If the ground thaws soon I'm going to be super hyped to get the hardy shit planted so early.
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Hopefully dog proof now. Y'all hyped for spring or what?? For peppers I got jalapeño, Tiburon (Hot Poblano), "Holy Molé", and New Mexico pequin
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Anyone can identify this struggling room plant and what I could do to save it?
Has been standing wrong for a couple months (warm and rather dark with dry air), started getting white/light yellow spots on the leaves that spread, even after relocating it to a much lighter place 2 weeks ago, the process still continues and there is no growth (new leaf shoots don't change appearance), already removed lots of leaves from it
Am considering a hard pruning but noticed there's no branching out whatsoever (all the 5 shoots have only linear growth) so I fear this will completely kill it
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>>705454
Close-up of one of the stems, shroom infection?
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>>705453
Only doing regular bell peppers (California Wonder) for the first time, let's see how they'll do in our Northern climate (current weather isn't very promising, we're like 5°C below average for March so far)
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>>705454
>Anyone can identify this struggling room plant

Pachira?

>>705456
Old scars from physical damage? If it spreads it is a problem, if not, then it is physical damage.
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>>705489
Hmm OK, will monitor it
And yeah, from looking at the pics, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachira_aquatica fits it well so I can read myself up on its behaviours and needs
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>>705491
>>705489
After googling around a little, I learned that the woven stems are often an issue and that the plant can likes rather dry conditions and can be prund radically. So I guess I will cut all but the healthiest stem away and prune it radically
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I sacrificed a couple peppers and a few flowers and buds to do some well needed pruning. Now the plant isn't leaning over so much. I think Bill appreciated it
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>>705498
Is this a dumb thing to do? I put my clippings from pruning it in the pot to break down
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>>705505

It's not particularly dumb or smart. :)
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>>705495
I've now decided to be bold and murdered most of the plant, only leaving behind one stem, hoping it will re-shoot in the following weeks
I put the 4 remaining shoots (clipped in the half woodified area) with most of the leaves removed in a water glass, hoping they'll grow roots
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>>705528
I gave a similar, yet not as radical treatment to my Lantana camara back in November when the leaves and flowers started to become droopy
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>>705539
...and now it looks like that. Tried to put it into dormancy by placing in a rather dark cool place (10°C), but it still shot new leaves in that position so I eventually had to place it on a bright SW-facing window
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>>705498
Ah, I told you Bill would like it. Concerning the clippings, I usually toss them in compost as I like a clean soil. Otherwise, it's easy to get them all mouldy when you water the plant...

>>705454
>>705528
Given the leaves, the pot seems to be rather small. Maybe it's a kind of deficiency?
As for the cutting, you can see buds, so it will probably regrow soon. If the higher bud on the pic is indeed the highest on the stem, you could maybe cut closer to it (it would avoid rot on the end of the stem above the bud). Though if you don't know how to cut near buds I suggest you to document yourself before doing it (there is a certain distance and angle to cut things right)

Also (open question) : is the tress thing harmful in any way to the plant, if the stems don't eventually fuse together?

>>705548
Nice!
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>>705558

very nice
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>>705565
Well after reading a little, those stem intertwining is done for decorative purposes but after a couple years leads to issues as they start rubbing against each other, making them more prone to fungal, bacterial and viral infection. That's why I decided to only let one stand
And yeah the cutting I did now was only rough work (with scissors which is not the best as they press shit together), will do some fine tuning tomorrow with a knife (cutting closer to internode, also shortening the defunct stems further)
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Anyone familiar with wild onion/garlic (U.S.) ?

I'm going to go harvest and transplant some into my garden box soon. This plant gives tiny onions, green onions and garlic in droves.
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>>705573
That's what I was thinking (about decorative stems tress). I recognize it must be hard to cut with scissors. I find a pic about cutting branches if you don't already know how to do it (left one is good, centre is too long, right is too short. The angle is at the opposite of the bud to avoid water stagnation on it)
Did you remove the highest bud on the cuttings you want to grow?

Regarding the late stems, isn't it hazardous to make such a cut below soil level?
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just how does this thread move so fast, jesus christ
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My ghetto af growing enclosure. It's nothing more than a 4' table, racks that are usually for hanging clothes, and a T12 fixture. At least I put a white board over it and a white sheet to help trap the light somewhat. God, it looks like I should be growing drugs under there or something.
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>>705636
Right now its just herbs and 2 little cherry tomatoes, since I live in an area where I have to wait until next month to start growing my squash, melons, corn, peppers and other tomatoe varieties.
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>>705639
you should really be growing drugs.
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stgarted some seeds in wet paper towels 3-4 days ago, some new seeds some old ( expired in 2013 ) new broccoli , cuke, and cauliflower are all starting quickly, though watermelon, tomato and peppers arent showing any large growth , from the expired seeds carrots and peppers arent growing, but radishes are growing at an alarming rate
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>>705615
We like our plants
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>>705664
why are tomatoes peppers and watermelons not starting as quickly
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>>705615
The plants are slow
The posts are fast
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Any ideas on what type of tree my bonsai is?
I received it from my brother a long time ago, and he never knew what it was, so I'm hoping someone here might be able to tell me.
I'll post a close up of its leaves next in case it might help.
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>>705505
If the cuttings had any bad fungus or bacteria it would be a problem, but since you just trimmed it to make it more manageable, you should be just fine. It's got mulch now!
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>>705698
Not sure why the photos are rotating. But whatever.
Any help is much appreciated
Thanks in advance
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>>705615
More people know about it now. Remember when it was like a few threads a year and each one lasted well over a month? Even then, the thread died and a new one was posted before it fell off the board.
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I currently use a miracle gro aerogarden hydroponics setup since I don't have any outdoor space.

The pods are peat moss but I can't seem to find peat moss small enough to compact into the pod containers I plan on reusing.

Also, does have any cheap hydroponic nutritional mix that I can dump into the water?
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>>705498
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>>705615
Well it's spring now so lots of startings, things are slower in Nov/Dec
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>tfw Tithonia rotundifolia seeds after just 40 hours
Wew, never had something sprout that fast (it said 1-2 weeks @ 20°C on the pack, but I put it on 30°C)
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>>706032
>Not growing plants inside over winter
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>>705672
Amen :(
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>>706070
The fuck
Peppers and watermelon seeds show no signs of growth, tomatoes may be starting to get little tails I'm not sure
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>>706086
Watermelon took a while for me last year
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>>706088
How did you start them?
I have mine in a damp/wet paper towel, inside a Tupperware (to catch condensation and keep everything wet ) in the sun, inside, trying to keep everything warm
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>>706091
In little peat pots with potting soil. I only had them at room temperature but it took about a week for them to sprout
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>>706092
I don't have any decent potting mix right now , I'm going to move the sprouts to other small containers soon with pottting mix, then into my garden, it's only maybe 50 f here
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>>705615
Spring
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Guys I'm considering murdering my pumpkin plant. I don't think I'll get a female flower on it considering it's so small and come springtime I'm not going to bother planting it outside
I'll replant one in July so they're ripe by October
I also want to start my watermelons in the pot
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>>706092
Try putting it in a warmer spot. Watermelons are originally from Africa, they like it warm. I'd suggest putting it on a heat mat in the warmest spot in your house.
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>>706218
Yeah, it looks really stunted and kinda sad. Pumpkins need a lotta light and space, it's really difficult to grow inside without a really elaborate setup.
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>>706218
Starting plants like melons and pumpkins a week or 2 before planting out is fine.
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>>706300
Oh it won't be warm enough here to plant outside until at least May
T. 47°N
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>>706218
MORE LIGHT

And wait longer omg, it hasn't even been long enough yet in the first place.
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>>706331
I haven't murdered it yet
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>>706316
Same here mang. Nature is a tease too, because we're having 60° days here this week, but 20° nights. I'm going to wait till may to make sure.
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Got a bit of a late start this year because I accidentally used a spray bottle that had bleach in it. Fortunately, I live in Florida, land of eternal sunshine. I still have 9 more months until it even gets cold.

Green pods are lettuce for my hydroponics.
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>>706427

Here's the plant scheme for the black pods. Had some 2 year old oregano that didn't sprout.
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>>706431

Here's stuff that I direct planted. Corn.

The cilantro is looking leggy af.
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>>706434

Gonna make some delicious pickles if the damn cucumbers make it. I never have good luck with vines in my region.
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>>706439
My cucumbers were shit last year too
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I have these orange things on top of the soil of my previous rosemary plant. From what I read it is a fungus that breaks down undecomposed soil like twigs etc and renders it available to the plant, making it beneficial. Is that true?

The pots are well drained. Those kind that have a resevoir on the bottom and pulls water up as the top "dries." It looks like the pic I pulled off the internet except not as extensive.
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h-help
Got my mom some more plants for her birthday and a real shelf to grow them on.
It's been 3 days and we were planning to move them to actual pots, but now 1 of the strawberry plants looks like this, what do?
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>>706446

What region? I have the same problem with pumpkins. The vines hang out on the ground, and there's just so much mold from the humidity in central Fl.
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>>706450

water it
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>>706455
Shit, I thought I was doing good on watering, guess not
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>>706458

Just keep the soil moist. Are you flooding the pot around once a day? You should be if there are drainage holes.
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>>705610
Tell me more about growing garlic. From what I understand it seems very low yield given the space it needs per plant.
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>>706459
Not flooding, just trying to keep the soil damp but it can drain (It's currently in one of those biodegradable pots)
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>>705615
It is spring. I mean COME ON
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>>706462

Fruit bushes typically need to be flooded.
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>>705756

I think that has more to do with the populace of /out/. I remember when the board first started, there was a lot of discussion on the board culture. The general consensus was that there should be no board culture, because everyone should only browse an hour or two a week. Any more, and you're not going /out/ enough to positively effect the community.

Now look at it. There have been 6 posts from 4 individual posters in the 5 minutes that I've had the thread open.
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Anyone doing mushrooms in here? I'm thinking of growing some shrooms this month. Is using the dish washers sterilize function good enough to prevent unwanted mold?
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>>706218
Knowing when to kill something and free up space is just as important as knowing how to nurture it.
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>>706462
If it droops, you [water it, but pretend this rhymed please]
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>>706479

Thanks for that easy to remember saying!
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>>706481
You're a peach.
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>>706462
>biodegradable pots
The material is called peat
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>>706478
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>>706452
Southern Ontario senpai
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>>706471
tfw post from outside
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>>706471
Everyone has mobile devices and can access the internet and post while they are outside doing just about anything.
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>>706556

Yeah, but why would you?
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>>706461
Not these guys. The garlic clusters they produce are tiny, way more potent flavor, and produce like 8 per stalk. And they regrow rapidly, if you just plant one little bulb after harvesting the onion/stalk/garlic. But then again, I'm in Florida and they're native here. They LOVE moist soil and direct sun.
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>>706558

Whattup, dude? >>706427 here. Got pics of your garden?
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>>706573
Total newb here. These are mine:
>>704234
>>704236
>>704238
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>>705610
>>706461
>>706558
apparently garlic is a huge thing, and theres money tobe made off of it the farm i oationally work at grows it sometimes, i harvested, proessed and replanted 25000 or more cloves of garlic all by hand
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>>706582

Noice. South, central, or north?
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>>706331
ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY!?
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>>705610
I use these all the time. They are the first herb to pop up in the wild in spring for eating around here. Just let them flower and when the tops are drying up take the bulbils off and plant those. They are a hardneck variety and can get rather large in good, well-tended soil.
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>>706664
>MORE LIGHT

You need to gather up all your lights in your house and put them around that plant during the daytime hours. don't cook it of course, but that 1 bulb is no longer giving the entire plant proper coverage.

Also, pumpkin LOVE compost. So, make some compost tea and water it with that.

http://www.homecompostingmadeeasy.com/composttea.html
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>>706668
during day it's also next to a south facing window, and compost bin is still frozen
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>>706473
I won't be growing any, but if you do please post updates, I'm pretty curious about it.
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>>706517
What?
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>>706704
The kind I'm gonna grow are illegal so no updates.
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Any tips on vermicomposting? I'm thinking about buying a pre-made worm house instead of doing the DIY thing because I want it to look good. Really need dat compost because my soil is shit but I'm concerned about possible fruit flies/other vermin.
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>>706738
you WILL get fruit flies if it's exposed at all. They're not a problem though.
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>>706710
I like that image
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>>707119

Mind if I save that pic?
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>>707122
It's all yours
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This is too many seedling right? Pot is 1 foot diameter (30cm). It's a flower seed mix, so should I wait until they are recognizable before thinning so I don't get rid of all of one type? Also how many plants should I aim for total? Seed packet said 25 seeds per square foot, so according to that I'd want about 20 but I'm not sure
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>>707566

Wait until they start to crowd each other out, then choose the strongest ones, or the ones you like best. Depending on the type of flower, you'll probably wind up trashing about half of them. Since you're probably a new gardener, though, wait until the last minute in case you kill a few.
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>>706452
Floridafag here, I used a trellis and got loads of cukes until the dead of summer.

Had a brief stint of nothing due to pickleworms, but some bt spray brought massive relief.
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>>707592

I don't know why I didn't do that. Probably because I'm retarded.
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>>707571
This
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>>705505
I read in a book that peppers don't like having pepper plant leaves break down next to them, but some plants like tomatoes enjoy having their own dead leaves around.
>>705700
I think you don't need mulch when your plants stay indoors, or is there some use to it?
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>>707657
Good to know
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>>707606
We all start retarded, it's okay.

I finally figured out what's killed 5+ plants of mine over the course of a year. Somehow I didn't realize this wasn't what roots should look like...

I blamed scale (I had that too, but it's not the murderer), disease, infrequent watering.... nope, just nematodes.

>>707657
Not to my knowledge, unless you have an issue remembering to water it. I don't grow plants inside, so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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New to this plant thing. Trying to grow some sage for eventual use as incense.
Planted these some two weeks ago I think. They seem to be doing alright.
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Can I shorten my pepper plants life span if I constantly pick the peppers to encourage more flowering?
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>>707911
No
And picking more peppers won't necessarily encourage more flower growth
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>>707929
That's exactly what I was thinking right now

Though >>707911 , what made you think it would encourage flowering? Something like fruit growing inhibiting flowering, kind of like apical dominance for branches?
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Asking here because I figure this is where the experts are.

My yard has a major drainage problem. The soil seems like it's mostly red clay and won't drain rain water. The lawn is perpetually wet/muddy, even if it's been days since it rained. I can barely walk on the lawn. Grass won't grow and even weeds seem to hate it there. What can I do to fix this?
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>>707877
Neat. Isn't sage hard to grow from seed? How many will you be culling once they've grown up a bit?
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>>708032
Get it airated , possibly dig a ditch along one side by the property mark
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>>708032
French drain for the yard.
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>>708117
Where are you from? I've never heard that expression, here we call it weeping tile
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>>708101
Add sand.
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>>708135
https://www.google.com/search?q=French+drain+yard&tbm=isch
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Looking for a small cheap plant to put in my room, what should I get?
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Received this as a birthday gift, should I return it??

Pretty sure it's a shitty mallsai and I don't really want a branch stuck in some soil. It's a generic Carmona. What can I do with it?
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>>708320
Do what you normally do with bonsai, replant it. You'll know instantly if it is mallsai or not. google up normal bonsai care methods.

Don't use this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bonsai-Basics-1-Rescuing-Mallsai/

They don't know what they are doing and the article is rife with blatantly false information.
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>>707877
>>708082
Guy with the perceived 48 different things going on now here, I'd say sage isn't one of the hardest things, not even among the slowest so far. Out of my 4 that sprouted maybe a month ago, 3 are still alive which is OK I guess. To my experience, kiwis are much much harder from seed (shitty survival rate and extremely slow growth), similarly lavender. Oregano and thyme are quick to sprout but then slow as fuck too, plus easily become super leggy unless you flood them with light. Strawberries take quite long to sprout and grow very slowly too.
Tomatoes and lemon balm seem to be the easiest-going overall so far

Probably true though that sage is better done by cutting, did only one but it quickly grew roots in water glass and since potting in seems to do well
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What is the best smelling plant?
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>>708348
Here a comparison pic of the sage cutting over ca. 3 weeks. It only really has picked up speed now in about the last week since I moved it under the grow light and I guess the roots are more established now
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Any amateur or professional plant breeders here, or should that be its own thread?
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Square foot gardening: good idea for raspberries?

It seems like the raspberries would just go right under the dividers.
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>>708229
Brehs...
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>>708375
>good idea for raspberries?

They get huge and go all over the place. Blackberries are far worse due to their roots. The roots for raspberries are usually not a problem. It is the tops that are the problem. If you are using them at the back edge then perhaps.

>>708366
If they are not already in here then making a new thread won't help.
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>>708375
>Square foot gardening: good idea for raspberries?

Fuck no. Raspberries need to be planted in rows and trellised. Then you trim them like grapes. You put a raspberry in a garden box and it will take over the whole damn thing within the next 2-3 years and it will be a spiney mess.
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>>708366
We're all amateur plant breeders
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>>708445
Take a clipping from anything you want and clone it
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>>708537
That only happens if y ou are not taking care of it. If can stay put easily. But, use it as the backdrop for the bed so it will have a place to stay out of the way.
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>>708229
THE beginner/shadow room plant is probably Ficus benjamina, can't do much wrong with it
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>>708375
They will. You can try planting them in a pot and then putting them in. It helps if you put a layer of gravel on the bottom of the pot too, to keep the roots from escaping out the drainage holes. But really, you should be planting them outside the box.
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>>708364
It looks so soft; I really want to pet it.

What am I doing with my life.
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>>706653
Gainesville.
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>>706473
Experienced psilo grower here if you have questions.

I don't understand your question. What are you trying to sterilize? The best method is pressure cooker, which is a poor man's autoclave. Hot water isn't hot enough to kill everything floating around in the air. It will kill unwanted mold, but not bacteria which are the primary competitors to your spores.
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>>708082
>How many will you be culling once they've grown up a bit?
No idea, hence my saying I'm new to the plant thing. I'm not really planning that far ahead, I figure I'll just work with whatever I get yknow? (I'd like to get as many as possible)
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>>708754

Cilantro may not work out. It tends to start running once the weather gets warmer. It's a cold weather plant. I actually have some, too, but inside.
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>>708776
Oh I didn't know. I'm such a retard, I didn't actually read up on any of these plants. I just bought shit I like to eat. I've been busy with work and after the mixing of 9 cubic feet of substrate in plastic totes, I was worn the hell out and got lazy.

Guess I'll do more research tomorrow.
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>>708783

Doesn't matter, dude. For me, it's just about watching stuff grow. You should start with some of the easy stuff if you just want to eat something you grew yourself. Basil, tomatoes, corn, pepper. With corn, you need a lot of stalks close together to ensure pollination, though.
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>>708362

In my opinion, anise hyssop is the best smelling plant.

Best smelling flower? Shieeeettttt. Too many options. Some heirloom rose varieties are pretty bomb.
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>>708362
I do like the smell of le 420 (not smoking it though, tried a couple times many years ago but it isn't for me)
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>>708366

>tfw naming your first variety

>tfw chance seedling is better than your intentional crosses

>tfw seeds from intentional cross aren't germinating

>tfw playing god
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>>708803
Heirloom roses a the bomb. But lavender is also a lovely plant, since both it and the flowers smell awesome.
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>>709109
Isn't lavender super hard to grow?
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>>709213
No. I have a huge bed of lavender about 5 years old in a lasagna type raised bed. It just needs a lot of sun and don't overwater it.
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>>709213
Hard/extremely slow from seed, also had no luck with cuttings. I'd normally not say this, but at this point: Just buy a small bush for a few €/$/... in your nearest gardening store
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>>705505
Yes. insects live on dead plant material and will breed in there too. Get rid of it and put sand on top, 2 cm deep.
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>>705639
Use an LED grow light. I used to use flouros but since switching over I've had excellent results with them. I started with a cheap UFO from eBay and have since moved on to a HidHut LED lamp.
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>>709239
It's been indoors since October
No insects I don't think
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So guys, I have chard + spinach + basil seeds. I dont have a way to start them indoors. Is it alright to just put them into my grow boxes?

>>704234
>>704236
>>704238
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>>709473
Yes, just cover them at night if there is to be frost in the morning.
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>>709107

I'm going to try to breed a new raspberry type.

Challenge in my opinion is scarification of the seed coat (via hydrogen peroxide), then germinating the seeds in a cold frame or moist refrigeration.

I'm leaning towards the cold frame approach, since I think I won't have to worry about "hardening" the seedlings.
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>uncover the mulch from winter
>find 3 carrots I must have missed last fall

Sweet, garden produce in March.
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>>709562

Good luck anon. What kind of raspberry are you wanting to create?

Know what you mean with germinating seeds though...I'm working with maypop right now. I couldn't find reliable info for germinating the seeds.

I started 150 seeds, some stratified, some scarified, some hot water soak, etc. It's been three months and only four have germinated.

Some folks have claimed online that it takes up to a year. Others claim they readily germinate in just a few weeks.

The four I have that germinated, did so in just five days. The many others that were treated in the same way haven't done jack.

No idea what I did wrong.

Pic related, one of the lucky four.
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>>709672

Heat-tolerant varieties, an easy thing to look for among seedlings in a hot environment. It's definitely going to take a few generations.

It's fortunately not without precedent to breed raspberries that can handle heat. I pick the ones who do best in the high temperatures, and I cross-pollinate them.
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Ready for seeds! Last frost date here is May 10.
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>>709597
You can grow carrots during the winter by placing uncomposted organic material in rows next to your growing plants. The comparing prices will warm the soil and allow them to grow.

Knew a guy who was growing carrots in February this way.
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DIY didn't care for my chicken coop, what about you guys?
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>>709723
It has 2 doors and 2 nesting boxes.
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>>709723
It might work for egg laying. But where will your chickens sleep?
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>>708362
Poppy
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Started throwing together my first hydroponic system, and realized that I have no way of shielding the water from light. Any suggestions?
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>>710238
Use the fucking lid for that container my good man.

Get hydroponics baskets for those plants as well, little net pots.
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>>710254

That wouldn't work, because as the reservoir depletes, the plants float down on the styrofoam.
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>>710256
Reservoir depletion shouldn't be an issue if your intake and outtakes lines are fine. Why are you using this weird floaty styrofoam method?
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>>710261

Water culture/bag culture. The most basic form of hydroponics.
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>>710261
>Why are you using this weird floaty styrofoam method?

https://www.google.com/search?q=hydroponics+foam+float&tbm=isch

>>710238
Install some filler material in those areas. Like foam that overlaps on top of the plant float about half an inch. It won't interfere with the action of the float and will shade the water under it better than what you have right now.
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>>710265
>>710270
Neat, now I feel stupid.

Get a bigger hunk of styrofoam and shape it correctly?
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>>710272

If it's tight to the sides, it won't float down.

>>710270

That's what I was thinking. Just have to find the right material.
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>>710276
Don't cut it tight to the sides, or use matte black lining material around the area that needs to be blocked off. Something like thick black plastic bags or a tarp.
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>>710238
could you just use landscape fabric pinned to the corners and draped long enough to float down with the foam
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>>705361
You fags really need to seed your torrents, to be honest family, I'm only getting a few kb/s from a bunch of poo-in-loos
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>>710011
Elaborate. They'll sleep in the coop I'm sure.

There's access for them to get to the ground underneath.
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>>710291
>>710280
>>710270

Do you think that I should use a white plastic to enhance light reflection?
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>>709672


There is a lot of contradictory/bad information on growing maypops (Passiflora incarnata). This prompted me and another grower on another forum did a little experiment with maypop stratification this winter. I stratified for 40 days and he stratified for a full 90-100 days. My germination rate was right at 50% and he got somewhere in the upper 90s. We found that soil temps around 85 F/29.5 C really get them to come up fast, but they're fairly tolerant and sprout readily at lower temps. Mine came up after about 2-4 weeks. Neither of us tried scarifying seeds and we found that warm soaking has no significant effect on germination rate.

Hope that helps. Glad you at least got a few to sprout.
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>>710309
To what? The roots? White plastic will let in too much light and cause root rot. If you want more reflectivity use mylar or a layer of white plastic over the black plastic.
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>>710328

I was just thinking that black plastic would absorb too much light. I have zero experience growing indoor plants.
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>>710306
Added cinder blocks for extra predator protection. The dog was very interested.
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>>710330
Flat white would reflect well but roots don't want any light near them.
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>>710338
>roots don't want any light near them.
Not him and not doing any of that hyrdoponic stuff either, but tell that to my privet cuttings
Cut them last September, put in a transparent water bucket and it took until December for the first roots to show up, and a few weeks ago they started to shoot leaves, so they've been sitting in there for half a year now. Haven't even changed the water in a couple months. Planted the 3 best-looking ones with the most roots/leaves out already though earlier today (to fix a hedge which was the original intent) so they're not pictured
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>>710318

Thanks a bunch for this anon. I stratified about 30 seeds for 30 days, and I took them out of stratification just a week ago. With any luck, 30 days is enough and I'll get a few more plants.

>>710069

Seconding poppy. I bet this is what ambrosia smells like.
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All the snow has melted so I cleaned up 4 months worth of dog shit in my back yard today.

Can I compost dog shit or make like dog manure? Or is it best to get rid of it?
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Can anyone tell me what these flowers are?
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>>710434
It's just shit, toss it in the compost.
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Hola
How gos your garden
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>>709684

But first I'm going to practice the hydrogen peroxide/cold moist refrigeration method on non-crosspollination seeds (i.e just some ones removed from store raspberries).
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>>710447
daffodils and tulips will be up soon
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>>710438
Purple Deadnettle (Lamium purpureum)

Edible, smells a bit terrible, tastes like the bottom of a lawn mower. Best used in small quantities in salads, sauces, or in flavoring beverages like when brewing beer.

It ranks right with Henbit, Ground ivy, and Creeping Charlie in edibility.
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Is there anyway to save this lad? I had to go away for 2 weeks and was told it should be fine as long as I watered it before I left, but when I got back it looked like this.
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>>710434
I have several rotating compost "piles" (semi-open wooden boxes of about 1m^3) that have an average rotting period of 2 years before I mix them with the soil again, at least if you let it ferment that long, mixed with cut grass and other plant clippings while composting, it should be fine
>>710447
Rosemary's been flowering since September, cherry plums started flowering in late January, crocuses are up since early to mid-February and now black- as well as raspberries are shooting leaves too and wild daffodils are in flower, so even though it's below average temps right now here at 50°N (highs barely 10°C, lows still sometimes into slight freezing), spring is in full force now
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>>710551
Oh and also today I mowed the lawn for the first time since December, didn't expect that much biomass, had to empty the mower about 6 times filled to the brim
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>>710549
Give it water, spray it's tops with water. Keep it in the shade. Hope.
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>>710551
Thanks for the info
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>>710605
Thanks bro, was doing the first two but for some reason didn't think of moving it into the shade. I guess cause it is usually night when I get home so I forget that the window it is at gets sunny as fuck.
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>>710306
It's good to give them separate heightened perch for sleeping. They feel more secure that way. Also they crap all around and a perch helps to control this hygienic aspect.
If your yard allows it, consider making them bigger fenced area for running and scratching around. Over summer season they should have daily access to grass and other green feed.
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>>706738
Avoid putting onion or garlic in the bin, and if so, only in very small amounts.

Watermelon should also only be added in small amounts due to the amount of moisture it adds
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>>711005
Might also wanna be careful with strongly acidic fruit, like citrus and tomatoes.
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>>710965
Put down boards or large rocks and let them sit overnight. Flip over to expose bugs, worms, slugs. Treats for the chickens!
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>>710965
Seconding.

>>710306
>>710332
They do need a perch where they can crap all over everything below and not hit the nest boxes. Designing it so the perch is above a chicken wire section will allow droppings to fall through the fencing and out of the coop.

If you absolutely must have the chickens fenced in at all times, consider making a chicken tractor. I find the hoop style chicken tractors to be the cheapest and easiest to make. Then you can pull it around your yard/garden to any location you want to give the chickens new ground to scratch around on.

I use mine for chicks that haven't grown large enough to fend off local cats or run fast enough to get under a shelter to get away from a bird of prey.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chicken+tractor+hoop&tbm=isch
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>>710965
Yeah they're rooting on the edge of the nesting boxes and pooping in them, so I'll be adding a perch of some sort and covering the nesting boxes. What kind of space should I allow them to get in the box, but prevent them from using it as a roost?
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>>711075
It's more about height and comfort. I think my father uses 2" wooden beams with rounded edges as a roost. And they are always placed higher than nesting boxes.
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>>711083
I just found few articles that recommend 4" planks for sleeping. Chickens don't need to balance on them that much.
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>>711093
>>711083
Don't use uniform perches. It fucks up their feet over time. Tree branch perches like these have different angles and thicknesses. The birds move around from week to week on different perches. It is far more natural this way. Never use something that they can't curl their feet around or it will deform their feet to the point they can't walk correctly.
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>>706218
Who are you to say that it's female?!?!? It can choose whatever it wants to identify as!
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>>711235
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>>711209
You need a male flower and female flower to produce a fruit on pumpkin vines you tard.
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>>711241

I agree with the him/her/xer. If a flower identifies as genderfluid, then you just have to accept that.
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>>711191
Many breeders on the net have exactly opposite argument. They say round perches are bad, because chickens are much heavier than flying birds and have to maintain strong grip and balance all night. It leads to leg cramping and less comfortable sleep.
I am not a specialist over this, so I can't say how much are all these arguments valid.
We have beam perches at the coop and even 7-8 years old hens have no problems with walking.
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I'm looking into getting a patch of land in the deserts of southern California. Knowing that there isn't much nutrients in the soil, would burying wood, rotten vegetables and yard waste be enough to amend the soil and get a garden going, or would I need to bring in soil? Also, will I have issues with excessive drainage, since underneath will be mostly just sand? Finally, any suggestions on what to plant? I live in Washington, so this would be a major change for me.
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>>711245
Flat roosts are hogwash.

The biggest problem people quote is simply because the round roost they use is too small in diameter which will cause damage over time.

This is why I give my birds a wide range of sizes and angles. They can pick the most comfortable perches throughout the week.

If you have flat perches, make sure they are roughed up and not smooth. Smooth surfaces are more of a problem than anything else. The bird's feet will skew sideways if their feet can't get a grip. This is normally only a real problem with brand new hardwood boards and with chicks placed on newspaper.
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>>711251
Make compost. Use raised beds and/or hugelkultur methods. Making your own soil is always a good idea when local dirt is less than favorable. If you don't want to do that, the best you can do would then be to amend the dirt and turn it into soil.

Sandy soil needs compost to help hold moisture.
Clay soil needs sand to help it drain better and compost to help water become more available to plants.

What you wish to do, is the right path to a certain extend. It is better to have organic matter fully composted though. This helps prevent plant/human pathogens and root burn.
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>>710295
I just turned mine back on and upped the speed, anon. The only one I have is the gardening megatorrent though.
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>>711270
Okay. So just expecting it to rot out and make soil won't work, but composting and mixing it will? That will help a lot. Thanks!
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Clementine or lemon?

I really don't know.
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>>711288
Pretty much, yes. Hugelkultur method is a little different and there is also the lasagna gardening method. I use a similar method as lasagna gardening for my raised bed, simply because I'm able to plant in them sooner. But, as you can see in this image, people can get quite a bit carried away with it.
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>>711321
what seed did you plant?
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>>711323
>I want to grow lasagna.

This is actually what I was thinking. A hugelculture with various other intermittent biomasses. I didn't know it was already a thing.
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>>711325
One of those two.
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>>710453

That's a good idea. How familiar are you with raspberries anon? Some of my usual plant vendors are offering purple and yellow raspberries, and I was wondering how they tasted/compared to red raspberries.

>>710549

If the wood & root system are still alive, then it should be able to leaf out again. From what I see in the picture, the wood has some green tinge to it, and that's a good sign.
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>>711321
>>711346
Pic related is what my lemon seedlings (was a twin seed) looked like when they were about the same stage (was in plastic shot glass of about 4cm diameter), so kinda different looking but you will only be able to tell certainly when it flowers and fruits. One indicator for lemon though is huge leaves (lemon generally has bigger ones than other citrus), now 8 months after sprouting, biggest leaves are 16cm long
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>>711556
...and once again forgot pic
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>>710549
Should be fine.

Don't over water now because that will rot the roots and its resistance is lowered.
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>>711556
>when it flowers and fruits
I doubt it will in my climate.
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>>708757
I mean my dishwasher sanitize setting. I don't have a pressure cooker. Is there literally any other way ?
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>>711564
Meh I'm 50°N too and very oceanic on top of that (extremely cloudy weather especially in winter), and despite citrus being said to be hard to cultivate in my area (especially getting them through winter), my seedlings have been growing surprisingly well, still looking very lush and not anywhere near about to drop leaves (they've been sitting on a south facing window sill in the kitchen since mid-October, and I make sure to let temps of the pot not drop below +15°C for extended periods, by watering lukewarm)
Statements on when they will flower/fruit the first time in our climate greatly vary throughout the interwebs, ranging from 1-2 years to 10-15 years, so all I can do is wait and see.
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>>711574
So pretty!
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>>711577
Thanks, best is when the new leaves shoot in red, which they do when outside and exposed to UV, here a pic from last October. Hope I can move them outside again in about a month, but spring has been very cold here so far
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>>711555

Don't know about purple, but yellow raspberries (having experience with Fall Gold) have a sugary taste.

Post-script: moist refrigeration in my case is going to be putting the seeds on moist paper, putting both in a ziplock bag, then placing the bag in an airtight jar.
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>>711632

Also, here's part of why I want to make my own cultivars. It's cool to compare different ones side-by-side.
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Currently digging up one of my standard gardens and turning it into raised beds. There will be 4 new raised beds when done. The paths between and around them will be packed with gravel over plastic. After this extension project, I'll have 13 raised beds. Since I'm using the non-clay topsoil of the old garden, I am able to plant as soon as the bed is finished. Thus, the bed with the dome already has red potatoes all through it.

Its been raining every day for a week so everything is ultra muddy. I'm glad my other finished raised beds have gravel around them already.
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Need some halp. What would be a cheap and effective way of increasing the acidity/lowering the ph in container soil? I added some lime out of habit and already transplanted a citrus tree.
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>>712057
compost is acidic
wood chips drip acids with precipitation
anything that ferments keeps delivering acids over time, you don't want to introduce a peak that then wears off but a steady supply
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>>712057
Sulfer, oak leaf mulch, pine needles
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>>711251
In addition to what >>711270 said the reason you need to grow in mounds or otherwise some type of raised bed is to avoid excessive salinity over time. High evaporation rates leaves salts in place rather then becoming more widely distributed or running off in moister areas.
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>>711251
In the long run, compost is the way to go. Some mix it in 1 spade deep, some layer it on top which is more natural. You'll also want some clay and possibly calcium like ground sea shells.

To get a kickstart on that see if you can get horse manure and chicken droppings. Usually they're sold by ranchers. Any herbivore feces will work. Rabbits are also popular for their droppings. Mix it in with some hay, leave it in an aerated pile for a few weeks, then distribute it.

Consider drip irrigation. It's more elaborate to set up but saves a lot of water.

Treat your soil as a living ecosystem instead of a substrate for petrochemical fertilizers and it will feed your plants forever.
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>>712064
>>712063
awesome. thanks, anons.
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>>712057
silage
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>>712057
would vinegar work?
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>>712088
>Consider drip irrigation. It's more elaborate to set up but saves a lot of water.
Seconded. Drip irrigation gets the water where it needs to go and avoids wasting water that lands on foliage or on the ground where it won't reach roots before evaporating.
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>>712096
>you don't want to introduce a peak that then wears off but a steady supply
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>>712096
>>712101
Also, vinegar can simply kill your plants if you pour it on them
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monthly update
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>>705453
>Y'all hyped for spring or what??

You know it. So glad my plum tree made it through the winter.
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Is it feasible to grow garlic in a pot on a smallish balcony that gets about 6 hours of sun in the summer?
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>>712057
oak leaves are acidic
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So... I've now decided to plant out the bigger of the 2 huge Yuccas into the garden (had already repotted the slightly smaller one about 2 weeks ago, see my old post >>701594)
First made a hole about 1m across and a spade (~30cm) deep, then a slightly deeper (~45cm) center hole 40cm across to fit the root ball in
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>>712385
...I had to saw apart the old container again. And no surprise, it was cramped as fuck with roots
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>>712388
..then refilled the reminder of the hole, mixing some lava granulate and sand inbetween because it's a rather heavy clay soil, put some bricks in a circle and topped it off with the rest of the lava granulate
Hope this helps her recover (had lots of yellow/brown dried up leaves I had to remove thanks to the too small container)
For protection in upcoming winters I plan to ram 4 stakes in the ground around it, wrap it with some cloth/foil or whatever and if necessary (when temps drop below -5°C for extended periods) heat that so-made "room"
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>>712354
Yes, completely. I grow it indoors with only 4 hours of direct sunlight. I grow them mostly for the tops though.

>>712096
No.
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>>712096
I'd wager watering for some time with a VERY dilute (0.5% or less) buffer solution of acetic acid + sodium/potassium acetate in equal molar parts (pH of ~4.8) could be acceptable
For long-term keeping it low, don't use tap but rather rain water, and consider mixing in some compost or conifer needles
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Who here /orgonite/? I just got 10 free tower busters and trinkets for my home and garden. No oivs because rural mexico without camera phone.
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>>712414
My philosophy is that if I have room for that then I have room for another plant. They are pretty sometimes. Good use of swarf.
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>>711569

Again, you need to explain what you're trying to sterilize. You can use that for cleaning shit, but if you're going to sterilize a syringe you'd be better off boiling it about 30 degrees below the level that damages the plastic.

As for jars, seriously invest in a PC. One that holds 4+ tall jars.

I enjoy answering questions so feel free to ask.
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>>712220
Nice. What's your substrate mixture?
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