That's cute. But how will it address the cultural and economic changes Britain will go through? Right now, Muslims are a growing minority.

related:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35020427

No True Scotsman

>>6601
Please, lets make Muslims as big and as equal to Christians so they are no longer discriminated against.

>Guy goes on a stabbing spree
>Let's report on his cultural identity
>Let's applaud a passerby for disapproving of a literal killing spree
>Let's reduce the crime to the pre-planned Muslim vs not-Muslim angle
>Let's see if we can class the crime as the spooky scary T-word so we can sell more copies of our free fucking newspaper
I despair for the media. I really do. I assume it must always have been this exploitative, cheap, and misleading, but at least in the past you could fall for it. It's like the media has forgotten how to manipulate people's emotions effectively, so they just make a bunch of cack-handed obvious attempts which are so insultingly transparent as to offend anyone with half a brain, and then just act like nobody will ever notice. It's like they noticed that people started getting their news for free from shitty uneducated blogs written by retards, and instead of focusing their journalistic integrity on providing a better service, or providing good news for free, they just switched to paid-for shitty uneducated news written by retards because they assumed that was what we wanted.

>>6687
4u

>>6724
>I assume it must always have been this exploitative, cheap, and misleading
Look up the Spanish-American War.

>>6724
>>6740
Such misguided cynics

It's not the media being maliciously manipulative; it's the social-cultural zeitgeist of self preservation. Fear of violence and others' reaction to violence is rooted in our lizard brains; it's no different in instantaneous social media 'flash viruses'. The users spread the hashtags and the media reports on it. Their sentiments are diverse and they're organic. People claiming agency over this or ascribing it to others are fools. The USS Maine was sunk by a boiler fire, not an inside job.

I don't understand. Why are they saying the guy isn't Muslim when he clearly is? I guess I understand the desire of so called moderate Muslims to disassociate themselves from the not so tiny minority of extremists, but it's simply dishonest of them to play the no true Scotsman fallacy when violent jihad is in fact a core component of Islam. This hashtag doesn't make me respect Muslims anymore. It just makes me think of them as lying cowards.

Fucking own your garbage religion and the atrocities it is responsible for. Own it or disavow it.

It's feelgood garbage and there's nothing particularly "London" about it.
All these terror attacks (below) occurred in 2015.
All were done in the name of Islam, bruv:
Afghanistan January 5, 2015 – A car packed with explosives drove up to the headquarters of EUPOL Afghanistan, a European police-training organization, in Kabul and detonated. Taliban claimed responsibility. 1 killed 16 wounded.[89]
Iraq January 6, 2015 – Two suicide bombers attacked a mosque in the town of Al-Jubba while Iraqi soldiers were resting, killing 10 soldiers plus the two attackers. Clashes following the bombings left 13 security personnel dead and 21 wounded.[90]
France January 7–9, 2015 – A series of five attacks in and around Paris kill 17 people, plus three attackers, and leave 22 other people injured.
Nigeria January 8, 2015 – 2015 Baga massacre. Boko Haram attacks town of Baga in northern Nigeria killing at least 200 people. Another 2000 are unaccounted for.[91]
France January 9, 2015 - The Porte de Vincennes hostage crisis kills 4 and injures 9 people.
Lebanon January 10, 2015 – In the 2015 Jabal Mohsen suicide attacks 9 people died and 30+ were wounded.
Egypt January 29, 2015 – January 2015 Sinai attacks. 44 killed, several wounded.
Pakistan January 30, 2015 – Suicide bomber killed at least 55, injuring at least 59 in a Shiite mosque in southern Pakistan.[92]
Pakistan February 13, 2015 – Heavily armed militants killed at least 19 people and wounded more than 40 after they stormed into a Shiite mosque during Friday Prayer in a suburb of Peshawar.[93]
Denmark February 14–15, 2015 – 2015 Copenhagen shootings. A gunman opened fire at the Krudttoenden café and later at the Great Synagogue in Copenhagen, killing two civilians and injuring five others.[94]
con't...

...cont...
Nigeria March 7, 2015 – Five suicide bomb blasts leave 58 dead and 143 wounded in the 2015 Maiduguri suicide bombing.
Pakistan March 15, 2015 – Suicide bombers kill at least 15 people in attacks on two churches in Lahore.[95]
Tunisia March 18, 2015 – Bardo National Museum attack. Militants linked to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) attack the Bardo National Museum with guns, killing 21 people and injuring around 50.[96]
Yemen March 20, 2015 – 2015 Sana'a mosque bombings. 135 killed in bombings on several mosques by ISIL.[97]
Libya March 25, 2015 – ISIL affiliates, The Shura Council of Benghazi Revolutionaries in Libya carried out suicide bombings in the city of Benghazi. Twelve were killed and 25 wounded. Five additional dead during attacks with a local militia.[98]
Somalia March 27, 2015 – Makka al-Mukarama hotel attack. 20+ dead 28 wounded.
Kenya April 2, 2015 – 148 people—most of them Christian students—killed in Al-Shabaab's Garissa University College attack.[99]
Saudi Arabia April 8, 2015 – In the city of Riyadh two policemen are shot dead. ISIL is blamed to be behind the attack.[100][101]
Somalia April 14, 2015 – Militants of Al-Shabaab attack a government building in Mogadishu in the 2015 Ministry of Higher Education attack. 17 dead 15 wounded.

...cont...
Iraq April 17, 2015 – A series of bombings by the ISIL occurred through Baghdad. 40+ killed 59+ injured.[102]
Iraq April 17, 2015 – A car bomb exploded at the entrance of the US consulate in Erbil, Iraq. ISIL took credit for the attack. 3 killed 5 wounded.[103]
Afghanistan April 18, 2015 – A suicide bomb detonated in front of a bank in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. ISIL claims responsibility. 33 killed 100+ injured.[104]
France April 19, 2015 – A 32-year Frenchwoman is murdered by a gunman whose plot to attack a church is foiled shortly after.[105]
Somalia April 20, 2015 – A minivan of UN workers was bombed by Al-Shabaab in the Puntland region of Somalia. 9 dead 4 injured.[106]
Bosnia and Herzegovina April 27, 2015 – At the Zvornik police station terrorist attack in the city of Zvornik, Republika Srpska, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, an armed member of a wahhabist movement opened fire on the police. In the shooting, a police officer was killed, two others were injured, and the attacker was killed by police.[107]
Iraq May 3, 2015 – Two car bombs were detonated ten minutes apart in Baghdad, Iraq. Nineteen were killed and an unknown number wounded. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attacks.[108]
United States May 3, 2015 – Two gunmen attacked the Curtis Culwell Center during a 'Draw Muhammad' cartoon art exhibit in Garland, Texas . 2 dead (perpetrators) 1 injured.[109][110][111][112][113]
Afghanistan May 3, 2015 – Taliban militants overran checkpoints in Warduj, killing 17 policemen.[114]
Afghanistan May 4, 2015 – A government bus was attacked by a suicide bomber in Kabul, killing one person and injuring 15 others.[115]
Iraq May 10, 2015 – Two car bombs were detonated ten minutes apart in Baghdad, Iraq and surrounding towns of Taji and Tarmiyah. ISIS claims responsibility. 14 were killed and wounding 30.[116]

...cont...
Afghanistan May 10, 2015 – A bus carrying Afghan government employees was attacked in Kabul by a suicide bomber, killing 3 people and injuring 10. Taliban claimed responsibility.[117]
Pakistan May 13, 2015 – A bus carrying Shia Muslims was attacked by six armed gunman who rode up in motorcycles. Several Islamist groups claim responsibility. 45 dead 13 injured.[118]
Afghanistan May 14, 2015 – A hotel that was hosting a cultural event was attacked by Taliban fighters in Kabul leaving 14 dead including an American, an Italian, and 4 Indians.[119]
Afghanistan May 17, 2015 – A Taliban suicide attack near the entrance of Hamid Karzai International Airport targeting a European police training vehicle. 3 dead 18 injured.[120]
Afghanistan May 19, 2015 – A suicide car bombing detonated in the parking lot of a Justice Ministry building in the diplomatic section of Kabul, killing 4 people wounding 42.[121]
Libya May 21, 2015 – A suicide bomber detonated his explosives at a military checkpoint outside of Misrata killing himself and two guards.[122]
Saudi Arabia May 22, 2015 – A suicide bomber attacked a Shia mosque during prayer in the al-Qadeeh village. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack. 21 dead +90 injured.[123]
Afghanistan May 25, 2015 – Taliban militants killed 19 policemen and six soldiers during a siege at a police compound in Nawzad District of Afghanistan.[124]
Kenya May 26, 2015 – Al-Shabaab militants attacked two police patrols which turned into a gun battle north of Garissa, 5 police officers were injured but they were able to kill both of the attackers.[125]
Iraq May 28, 2015 – Two car bombs were set off minutes apart targeting the Cristal Grand Ishtar Hotel and the Babylon. 10 killed and 30 wounded.[126]
Saudi Arabia May 29, 2015 – A suicide bomber attacked a Shia mosque in Dammam detonating the bomb in the parking lot. 4 killed, unknown injured.[127]

...cont...
Iraq June 1, 2015 – Three suicide bombers in humvees attacked an Iraqi police station in the Tharthar region in Northern Anbar Province. 41 dead, 63 wounded.[128]
Turkey June 5, 2015 – 2015 Diyarbakır rally bombings – Twin bombing of a Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) rally. 4 dead, over 100 injured.[129][130]
Iraq June 13, 2015 – Four suicide SUV car bombs went off in an Iraqi police station in the Hajjaj near Tikrit and Baiji. 11 dead, 27 injured.[131]
France June 26, 2015 – Saint-Quentin-Fallavier attack – Beheading in a factory near Lyon, head marked with Arabic writing and Islamist flags. Gas canisters planted provoked a fire. 1 dead, 11 injured.[132]
Kuwait June 26, 2015 – 2015 Kuwait mosque bombing – 27 people killed in explosion at Shia Imam Sadiq mosque in Kuwait City, medical sources tell Al Jazeera. Claimed by ISIS
Tunisia June 26, 2015 – 2015 Sousse attack – Attack in Tunisia against two tourist hotels, over 28 people died.
Somalia June 26, 2015 – Battle of Leego (2015) Attack on AMISOM base in Somalia with a car bomb, assault rifles and RPGs, causing over 30 military deaths.
Nigeria June 26-30, 2015 - Boko Haram kills at least 200 people as they gun down and bomb villages, mosques, and other public space.[133]
Israel June 29, 2015 – 2015 Shuvat Rachel shooting shooting attack on civilian car, 1 death.

...cont...
Nigeria July 5, 2015 - Two bombs explode at an elite restaurant and mosque, killing at least 15 people in Jos.[134]
Nigeria July 7, 2015 - A bomb explodes in a government office in Zaria, killing 20 people.[135]
Cameroon July 13, 2015 - 2 suicide bombers explode in a bar in the town of Fotokol and kill 13 people, including a soldier from Chad who was killed in the second explosion.[136]
Nigeria July 17, 2015 - Two Nigerian towns are attacked by two suicide bombers, killing 62 people.[137]
Turkey July 20, 2015 – 2015 Suruç bombing Suicide bombing killed 33 people and injured 104 in Kurdish majority city of Suruç. ISIL claims responsibility.[138]
Nigeria July 22, 2015 - A series of explosions at two bus stations in Gombe kill about 40 people.[139]
Cameroon July 26, 2015 - A suicide bomber kills at least 14 people at a popular nightclub in Maruoa, just three days after 2 suicide bombers killed 20 people in the same town.[140]
Nigeria August 11, 2015 - 47 people are killed as explosions erupt at a crowded market in the town of Sabon Gari.[141]
Iraq August 13, 2015 – 2015 Baghdad market truck bombing A truck bomb in a Baghdad market killed more than 70 and injures 200.[142]
France August 21, 2015 – 2015 Thalys train attack Shooting and stabbing in train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris injures 5. The incident is believed by French police to be an Islamist terrorist attack.[143]
Nigeria August 28-30, 2015 - Boko Haram members massacre 79 people in 3 different Nigerian villages. 68 alone were killed in the village of Baanu.[144]
Nigeria September 10, 2015 - Explosion at a refugee camp for people fleeing Boko Haram kills at least 2.[145]

...cont...
Iraq September 17, 2015 – Two suicide bombings in Baghdad killed 10 and injured 55. ISIL claims responsibility.[146]
Germany September 17, 2015 – An Islamist of Iraqi descent attacked and injured a police officer with a knife in Berlin. 1 injured, 1 dead (perpetrator).[147]
Nigeria September 21, 2015 - At least 54 people were killed by multiple explosions in Nigeria.[148]
Yemen September 24, 2015 – A bomb attack on a Shia mosque in Sana'a killed 25 and injured dozens more during prayers for the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha. Claimed by ISIL.[149]
BangladeshItaly September 29, 2015 – Three men on a motorbike shot and killed an Italian aid worker. The attack has been claimed by ISIL.[150]
Nigeria October 1, 2015 – Multiple suicide bombings by Boko Haram in North-East Nigeria killed 14 people (including the bombers) and injured 39.[151]
Israel October 1, 2015 – Gunmen opened fire on a car near Nablus on the northern West Bank, killing a man and woman. 4 of their 6 children were also in the car and witnessed the attack, but were uninjured. The attackers have been praised by Hamas.[152][153]
Australia October 2, 2015 – 2015 Parramatta shooting. A NSW Police Force civilian employee was shot dead outside NSW Police Force headquarters on Charles Street, Parramatta, Sydney by a 15-year old lone gunman. The gunman then engaged with NSW Police Special Constables in a shootout before being killed, 2 dead.[154]
BangladeshJapan October 3, 2015 – A Japanese man was shot and killed in a similar fashion to an Italian aid worker killed 4 days earlier. The attack has been claimed by ISIS.[155]

...cont...
Iraq October 3, 2015 – In Baghdad, two suicide bombings in Shiite majority neighbourhoods kill at least 18 people and injure 61. Attack claimed by ISIS.[156]
Afghanistan October 5, 2015 – Two suicide bombings in Kabul targeted an Afghan intelligence centre. 3 people were injured in the attack, claimed by the Taliban.[157][158]
Somalia October 7, 2015 – Militants of Al-Shabaab ambushed and killed the nephew of Somalia's president, Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. 2 dead.[159]
Turkey October 10, 2015 - In the 2015 Ankara bombings 102 people were killed and over 400 others injured. According to two high ranked sources in the Turkish security forces ISIS is most likely responsible.[160][161]
Chad October 10, 2015 – Multiple suicide bombings in Chad killed 33 people and injured 51. The attack is believed to be the work of Boko Haram.[162]
AfghanistanUnited Kingdom October 11, 2015 – A bomb attack in Kabul, targeting a British military convoy injured 7 Afghan civilians. The attack has been claimed by the Taliban.[163]
Nigeria October 22, 2015 – 20 people were killed in the northeast state of Borno, Nigeria in a Boko Haram attack.[164]
Nigeria October 23, 2015 – Two separate mosques were attacked by suicide bombers, killing 42 in Nigeria.[165]
Niger October 28, 2015 - Boko Haram militants attack a village in Niger, gunning down 13 people and allegedly burning down houses and cars during the rampage.[166]
EgyptRussia October 31, 2015 – Bomb on board a Russian jet brings it down in Sinai, bound for St Petersburg, killing 224 people.[167]
Lebanon November 12, 2015 – Twin suicide bombings kill 42 people in the capital city of Beirut.[168]

...cont...
France November 13, 2015 – A series of terrorist attacks in Paris kill 137, and wound 368. They involved a series of coordinated attacks which consisted of mass shootings and suicide bombings. This incident was the most fatal event on French soil since World War II.[169]
Iraq November 13, 2015 - A Suicide bomber kills at least 21 at a Shia funeral.[170]
PhilippinesMalaysia November 17, 2015 – A Malaysian national is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf in the southern Philippines.[171]
Nigeria November 17, 2015 – A suicide attack at a market in Yola killed more than 30 people and hospitalised more than 80. The attack is thought to be the work of Boko Haram.[172]
France November 18, 2015 – A Jewish history teacher was stabbed in the arm and leg by three Islamists in Marseille.[173]
Bosnia and Herzegovina November 18, 2015 – A lone wolf Islamist killed two soldiers and injured civilians in Sarajevo. 3 dead 5 wounded.[174]
Nigeria November 18, 2015 – Two explosions rock a phone market in Kano killing at least 15 people and injuring more than 100. Boko Haram is suspected to be behind it.[175]
Mali November 20, 2015 – Bamako hotel attack. Gunmen yelling "Allahu Akbar" storm a hotel in Bamako, Mali. At least 19 killed, and more than 160 were taken hostage.
Iraq November 20, 2015 – A Suicide bomber detonates inside a Shiite mosque killing 10 people, other bombings in the area killed another 5 people.[176]
Cameroon November 21, 2015 – Suicide bombers affiliated with Boko Haram kill at least 10 in northern Cameroon.[177]
Nigeria November 22, 2015 – 8 people among women and children demise when a female suicide bomber is reduced to pulp.[178]
Tunisia November 24, 2015 – At least 12 people were killed in a bus bombing in Tunis, the capital of Tunisia. ISIS claimed responsibility for this attack that targeted a bus transporting members of the Presidential Guard. [179]

Egypt November 24, 2015 – In the November 2015 Sinai attack which occurred a day after the second round of parliamentary elections closed, militants attack a hotel housing election judges in the provincial capital of al-Arish in Egypt's North Sinai. 7 dead, 10+ wounded[180]
Niger November 25, 2015 – Boko Haram invades a village and shoots indiscriminately residents and also fire rockets, killing 18.[181]
Nigeria November 27, 2015 – 21 killed in Boko Haram suicide attack on a Shia procession in Nigeria[182]
Egypt November 28, 2015 – Islamist gunmen killed four security personnel in an attack at a police checkpoint in Saqqara. 4 dead[183]
Mali November 28, 2015 – Millitants fired rockets on a MINUSMA peacekeeping forces base in northern Mali. Ansar Dine claimed responsibility. 3 dead, 20 wounded.[184]
United States December 2, 2015 – In the 2015 San Bernardino shooting, two people, one of whom posted on Facebook an "oath of allegiance" to the leader of ISIL, shot and killed 14 people and injured 21 others in a killing spree that the FBI was investigating as "act of terrorism".[185][186]
Chad December 5, 2015 – Four female suicide bombers from the militant Islamist group Boko Haram attacked the Chadian island of Koulfoua on Lake Chad, killing at least 15 people and injuring 130.[187]
Yemen December 6, 2015 – The governor of the southern port city of Aden in Yemen, Jaafar Mohammed Saad, was killed in a car bomb attack. The assassination was claimed by ISIS.[188]
...and the year isn't even over.

So, none of these Muslims were Muslims? Is that what we are supposed to believe, based on some random guy's shouted comment?

WHY WOULD WE BELIEVE THAT?

k

>>6793

So just above 100 attacks? I mean if they work hard, by the end of the year they could reach an attack every third day in the year ratio.

But these people who clearly practice islam, and identify themselves as muslims, are not muslim because a guy in the tube said so.

>>6785
>>6786
>>6787
>>6788
>>6789
>>6790
>>6791
>>6792
>>6793
do you realise you're spamming the thread with off topic informations
as much as respect your comprehension problems, I think there's already a chan to push for your ideological, religious and political agenda .
Hijacking every thread mentioning muslims in order to push for hate is allowed in /pol/ and /b/, NOT HERE

>>6777
What he's saying is "I am a Muslim, as are many many brits and you have waived all right to be one of us." He is denouncing the attacker's faith, not in a 'no true scotsman' way, but as a reminder to him and other muslims that random, unprovoked violence is unacceptable in the faith.

>>6800
listen Mohammed, nothing there is off-topic, NOTHING.
Nothing is spam.
I haven' posted this anywhere else.
If someone else has, good for them, these are merely facts.
Loads and loads of murders commited by men who say they are murdering in the name of Islam.
It's NOT an opinion.
It's fact.
Unless this is all wrong, in which case I apologise to you and your brethren.
Got it from Wikipedia, so if you have a problem with the info take it up with wikipedia, or your imam.
My best friend is a Muslim, so fuck you for saying posting factual information is spreading hate.

>>6804
>listen Mohammed
you just sent your good points to the crapper witha cheap, uncalled for adhominen

>>6807

Thats not ad hom. It would be ad hom if he used that as the reason or rather argument that the Mohammed was wrong. But he just "insulted" him and after that stated his argument.

Well, generally speaking Muslims not speaking out against the actions of terrorists has been a proper issue for a while now.

But its clearly not a seperate thing either.

>>6807
The only logical fallacy here is your post, with this line.
>you just sent your good points to the crapper
Arguments don't lose their meaning just because somebody insults you.

>>6784
>All were done in the name of Islam, bruv:
I recently talked to a Christian and he told me that no Christian has ever murdered somebody so far and his reasoning was quite simple:
Murder is against the Christian faith. Anyone who chooses to murder somebody is evidently not following the faith. (I disagreed with him)
It would be wrong to equate Christianity to Islam because while the Christian culture has made tremendous developments in the past few hundred years, Islamic culture has (in places) turned to shit. But for Muslims that live as Muslims with modern values, I think such an equation is possible. If murder is unacceptable to a modern-values Christian, then it can also be considered unacceptable to a modern-values Muslim.
Whether or not this is a No True Scotsman depends on whether or not you accept the rejection of murder to be a necessary part of the modern-values religion.
I disagree because I see no central authority figure that could dictate this. Sure, there's a pope. But all you need to pick up a religion is basically just listen to your parents or read a few bits from some old and confusing book. The pope has no power over you that you don't grant him.

>>6813

It does not work with christianity because we all sin. Everyone sins daily, and you can go to church to rid yourself of those sins. Even if you killed someone you stay christian, but a sinner one.

So at best you could say that those muslims are dickheads and not following the faith as you perceive it.

>Loads and loads of murders commited by men who say they are murdering in the name of Islam.
>It's NOT an opinion.
nice way of acknowledging your comprehension problems

what the article states is at least one muslim reacted and that have rarely been captured on tape most of previous similar reactions were staged or sketched
you (because you're an HIQ) translate the OP into :"oh no muslims are not dangerous why focus on them"
you're not even bothering to read or think you're just a robotic hate machine
and you're 'special' and 'special' people will never be called to solve society's problems cause every time 'special people' did it ended with chaos

>>6813
Muslims don't consider killing a Kafir to be murder since Muslims consider Kafirs to be subhuman

>>6801
This is a good post.

>>6590
>‘You ain’t no Muslim bruv! You ain’t no Muslim!’

Isn't that a double negative?

>>6873
So is he some Muslim, bruv?

>>6877
He's no true Scotsman.

>>6879
No one in London is a true Scotsman.

>>6862
>Whether Jews or Christians (Ahl al-Kitab, or People of the Book) are kafir is disputed. Scholar Cyril Glasse criticizes the use of kafirun [pl. of kafir] to describe Christians as "loose usage",[5] while salafist Islamic scholar Muhammad Saalih al-Munajjid states "Jews and Christians are both kaafirs and mushrikeen".[7] According to the Brill First Encyclopedia of Islam, the Ahl al-kitab are "usually regarded more leniently than other kuffar [pl. of kafir]..."[18]

>Traditionally People of the Book conquered by Muslims were entitled to a special status known as dhimmi by paying a tax known as jizya and observing other restrictions on their rights (see for example the Pact of Umar).

>>6590
>#notruescotsman
smh tbh fam

>>6807
Shove a ballpoint down your urethra, asswipe.
If I had said I was a Catholic (I'm not) and he had called me Peter where would we be?
we'd be just fucking fine.
No need for offense either way, Ethan.
In any case, I'll offend who the fuck I want, and I didn't address you, so go find that pen. If you want to go post on the forums Jezebel or Meatspin, no one is stopping you.

>>6801
doesn't the Koran say it's OK to kill the non-Muslim?
I understand it might also say killing is against Islam, but in the eyes of Islamic State wouldn't they take the literal and more precise wording to be true/truer?
obviously I'm no scholar, just looking to understand better.

>>6879
>>6884
I love how spot on this comparison is.

>>6982
Apparently there's some doctrinal wiggle room on this. The Quran never specifically spells it out. It's one of those things that are up to the adherent to decide.

Now, people without any abrahamic faith are always OK to kill. In fact, you are exhorted to kill them wherever you find them. Hindus, Shintoists, and Buddhists are fair game.

>>6982
In the same way Christians are supposed to stone those who wear mixed fabrics. I'd bet it's pretty embarrassing as an integrated muslim to have a bunch of hyper traditionalist people come in and start defining what you are as a culture.

>>6800
hello reddit

>>6793
His statement was meant as a denouncement, you idiot.

>>6982
That's the problem with a lot of religious texts, they can be vague, contradictory and broad but in the end people will take from them whatever meaning they want.

>>6996
Except that in Islam, unlike modern Christianity the traditionalists are the majority, not just some fringe group. If they were really embarrassed (and they should be horrified at the actions that Islam is used to justify, not merely embarrassed) they would disassociate themselves from the religion entirely.

>>6996
Maybe they should do something about it, instead of holding a rally to remember the victims of American gun violence. Just a thought.

>>6800
Terrorism attacks are on topic about a thread about terror attacks.

Go fuck your sheep, achmed

>>7031
How many Muslims do you know?

>>6996
Really all those rules are for Jews. No Christian is expected to follow those rules according to the bible because Jesus said you didn't have to any more, so that's a terrible analogy. The Koran is literally just the bible with some OCs so he probably says it somewhere in there too

>>6590
>You Ain't No Muslim Bruv
Shitskins, I swear.
>why we love London
I'd say I feel sorry for Brits, but they welcome these people with an open anus.

>>6801
That is obviously what the man meant, but what anon is saying is that the man is wrong. Unprovoked violence is almost certainly acceptable in the faith, unless you consider being an infidel to be provocation.

>bible says that you aren't allowed to be homo
>fundamentalist says that being a homo is wrong
>moderate realizes that being homo is actually fine and says that the fundamentalist ain't one of us, bruv because muh peace muh love muh jesus
Breaking away from your religion's retarded more retarded tenets is great, but that makes you less of an adherent to the faith, not more. To say otherwise is some bizarre doublethink bullshit cobbled together for the sake of convincing yourself that you aren't acting against your faith.

>>7741
There's more to a religion than just the holy scripture.
It's why Christianity has made such tremendous progress in the past few hundred years and now even has a pope that supports homosexuals.
It's also why the Islam has regressed so much lately. At this point it's roughly on Christian medieval level.

>>6590
>why we love London.
Because in times of crisis, they wait for the police to stop terrorists from doing whatever they want at the expense of lives and safety of others.
In those trying times, they shout at the terrorist.

We LOVE London!

>>7823
Let's ask Lee Rigby if he loves London.

>>7741

this guy is correct

>>7808
Holy scripture literally defines the faith. You can make changes all you like, but eventually you reach a point where you're worshiping a completely different faith.

>>7987
>but eventually you reach a point where you're worshiping a completely different faith.
That's not a bad thing.
Modern bicycles are completely different from the original ones, and they are great.

>>7989
I never said it was a bad thing, anon. Read the rest of the conversation.

>>7991
But reading is for nerds!

Wait, so men can "identify" as women and be considered women, but the Islamic state and pakis and other brown people can't identify as moslem and be considered moslem? Seems inconsistent, will a leftist faggot here explain that one to me?

>>6801
>unprovoked violence is unacceptable in the faith

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm


Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Among others.

>>6813
lol the mental gymnastics that liberals will go through are hysterical. They would literally apologize while a moslem raped their daughter and wife. You people are fucking weaklings, you should fly out to Syria and tell ISIS all about how they are misinterpreting Islam.

>>6800
that's not hate anon, just a statement of facts

>>6800
>I think there's already a chan to push for your ideological, religious and political agenda
If you're talking about wheelchair chan then guess what? They got a leftist /pol/ while we don't.
You are the one who should be going over there, because there isn't a leftist /pol/ here.