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>/pol/ gets a sticky on the Brussels attacks
>no sticky on /news/

>EXPLOSION AT THE AIRPORT
https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/712188304150679552

>EXPLOSION AT THE METRO
https://twitter.com/massart_serge/status/712191109288628224

News streams:

>MSNBC
http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/
http://www.hulkusc.com/watch-msnbc-live-streaming/

>CNN
http://www.livenewschat.eu/top/
http://www.hulkusc.com/cnn-news-live-streaming/
http://2ndrun.tv/news_directory/national/cnn/
http://www.stream2watch.co/live-tv/us/cnn-live-stream
http://www.playlivenew.com/2010/08/watch-cnn-news-live/

>FOX
http://earthdispatch.com/foxnews.html
https://vaughnlive.tv/newzviewz
http://www.hulkusc.com/watch-fox-news-live-streaming/
http://www.stream2watch.co/live-tv/us/fox-news-live-stream

>CNNi
http://www.hulkusc.com/cnn-international-live-stream/

>other
http://www.stream2watch.co/live-tv/us/abc-live-stream
http://www.stream2watch.co/live-tv/us/cbs-live-stream
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Has any person/organization claimed responsibility yet? Although it might just be lone wolf
And I wonder why they targeted Belgium of all places.
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>Donald continues to be right
Save America from the cancer Don.
http://youtube.com/watch?t=1m44s&v=JjqN_ypitF8
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The religion of peace strikes again.
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>>32205
Not so far no. All sources I've seen say ISIS is the most likely suspect. (They are saying they are sure it WASN'T Al Qaeda but not saying how they know that)
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>>32205
Two different locations were attacked simultaneously (airport and train station) so it's not a lone wolf. This also happened right after one of the last participants of the paris attack was captured, as if to send a message.
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>>32205
It's a coordinated attack. IS hasn't confirmed it's them yet but they are the most likely suspect.

At least 14 dead at the airport. At least 20 dead at the metro station.

Brussels is the capital of Europe and a lot of European organisations are located in Brussels. Belgian police also arrested a terrorist suspected of being involved in the Paris attacks last week.

TL;DR It's our turn this time ...
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>>32205
>And I wonder why they targeted Belgium of all places.
Brussels is a quarter Muslim, head of the EU, and the largest per-capita European source of Syrian Jihadis. Just do a Google search on the suburb of Molenbeek.
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>>32206

Faggot detected.
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>>32221
Nice ad hominem you got there mate.
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>>32225

Shaddup homo.
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>>32202
Are terror attacks going to be an annual European thing now?
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>>32207
These bloody Taoists!
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>>32229
>annual
>not monthly
Step it up, senpai.
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>>32205
The WP wrote a piece on it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/22/why-is-brussels-under-attack/?tid=sm_fb
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>>32229
Yes, and soon the Americas, Asia, Oceania, ect.
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>>32229
Looks like it but i don't really see the point here
What do they think they Will acomplish ?
They're litteraly useless
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How much more blood needs to be spilled for liberals to understand the gravity of the situation?
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>>32242
All of it.
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The religion of peace strikes again.

Not anything to do with all the muslims or refugees or islam. Nope not at all.

We need more diversity. These attacks have been happening since before non whites entered europe. White people have a violent culture, just as violent as arabs and africans.

We need more multiculturalism. Just look at how much paris and belgium has been since their enrichment.
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>>32244
Do you realize how stupid you sound?
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>>32221
>calling me a homo
No mein Eurofriend. But good luck over there :]
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>>32229
Funny that it has become more common after they let refugees in. Not that it is in anyway related, of course. :)
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>>32241

> What do they think they will accomplish?
War. And they will probably succeed at this rate.
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>>32239
>Asia
Yea right. That shit won't fly there or Russia.
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>>32245

Do you?
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>>32202
So /news/, what would you do about the Muslim immigration problem?

I don't mean to sound like /pol/, but at this point I would say that it's a pretty safe bet in assuming that these terrorist attacks have gone up since the refugee situation in Europe.

Wat do?
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>>32242
>>32247
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21690028-european-problem-demands-common-coherent-eu-policy-let-refugees-regulate
different point of view, might wanna read it. just to get wider perspective, not to persuade you or whatever.
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>>32250
Oh yeah, just wondering if you are also self-aware.
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>>32254

I am very self-aware. But also not the anon you replied to with said question.
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>>32251
>I don't mean to sound like /pol/
There's your problem retard. You won't just call the cancer cancer and forcefully remove it.
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>>32249
>That shit won't fly there or Russia.

yeah sure

>The Moscow mufti council claimed that Muslims numbered around 1.5 million of 10.5 millions of the city's population in 2010.[59] There are four mosques in the city.[60]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow#Religion
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>>32252
>REFUGEES are reasonable people in desperate circumstances
Stopped right there.
These people are not reasonable, they're savages from a completely different culture that recognize only force
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>>32255
shit, sorry, i was just shitting up thread,
My point is, these "do you see now" post are really stupid.
condemning 1,6 billion muslims.
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>>32259
>Four mosques in the capital
Nothing like Europe
We have four mosques in each abandoned shanty town
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>>32260
by starving along borders of several countries because we wont let them in, they are really showing us their savage nature.
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>>32261

I think now would be a perfect moment for change. Even if it's hate driven or not. I myself am tired of living in fear of terrorist attacks and getting shot at for my 'western' ideals.

Even the #stopIslam hashtag is becoming the most popular hashtag right now on Twitter, even Dutch politicians are participating in said 'trend'.

We have a politician named Geert Wilders, who has always hated the Islam, and now he's certainly going to win the elections.
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CLEARLY Islam is to blame.
This is the point of no return, it's been nice.
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>>32247
Molenbeek and other parts of Brussels were shit well before the refugee crisis.
But when people complained about these areas turning into literal ghettos and maybe considered taking measures, they were obviously either ignorant or racist, probably both
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>>32264
I understand, but going with people whose policy is built around negativity. thats not persective policy, you cant build a free functioning country on it.
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>>32257
Wat?

So not only do we remove kebab but /pol/ as well?
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>>32263
No, by being animals that rape they show us they are savages
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>>32269
what are you talking about? not the guy you are replying to, but what the hell?
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>>32269
Don't be smart liberal its already gotten you this deep into shit.
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>>32270
link? those german "raping" were partly proved to be hoax, and partly yeah true, but guess what, there are rapist even among germans.
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>>32268

You won't have a functioning country if it is being bombed and terrorised every month.
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>>32268
point in case, look at slovakia, their "neo-naxi" party got like 10% in parliament
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>>32277
>there are rapist even among germans
I don't see how that invalidates my claim.
If there's a chance of 1/1000 germans being a rapist (already a hyperbolic claim), then you shouldn't be bringing even more of them
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>>32278
true, i guess thats why its so hard in middle-east
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>>32280
and even more non-rapist.
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>>32260
Fuck off pol
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>>32273
No clue what he is talking about either. I assume it's something like don't be politically correct, but the way he worded it in response to my first post confused the fuck outta me

>>32276
>Using a political stance as an insult
>never said if I was on the left or right. I prefer neither, 2bh

You're a massive tool
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>>32284
Their blood is on your hands weakling
>>32282
There is no net gain from them, only loss
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>>32287
no, i mean its gonna take some time, but immigrants are the running force of the world.
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Isis has claimed responsibility
http://spon.de/aeH2L
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>>32290
Yes, if they're forced to work and if the world wasn't in recession.
But they're propped on welfare and they'll stay on it because there aren't any jobs of their caliber
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>>32287
Who's blood is on whos hand ?
Are the many more refugees starving along the border not blood on your hands.

Fuck off pol with your moral arguments
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>>32294

> German

Translate pls
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>>32296
A man owes allegiance if not to his country, then at least to his countrymen and fellow members of the same civilization.
You betray them to sate your own guilt complexes
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>>32281
Thats why they should stay there. We need to stop bombing them and close our borders. Its the only way
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>>32268

You're right that hating Islam isn't the answer nor is it an idea that can build up a country. You need to be defined by what you are rather than what you dislike. But at this rate Europeans are kind of out of options. They don't have the free speech to say as they want, limited ways to fight back because guns are all but illegal, and their governments aren't screening these "refugees" to see who actually needs help vs who's just there for free handouts, a life of crime that'll be accepted because people are afraid to be racist, etc.

When you have so few options because your own government seems to be working against your interests, odds are you're gonna focus on the problem and vote in whoever the fuck sounds like they're gonna get rid of it. That's basically the same way Hitler rose to power. You wait until there's a big problem stirring the people up, then you step in with rhetoric and good sounding shit and that's that.


tl;dr: European governments have fucked over their people for so hard and for so long that they want these radical people now because it offers some sort of hope for change rather than living a life of fear from terrorist attacks from people who their governments keep rushing in.
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>Es ist einBekennerschreiben des "Islamischen Staats"aufgetaucht. Darin bekennt sich die Terrorarganisation zu den Anschlägen. Laut der selbsternannten Nachrichtenagentur Aamaq, die als Sprachrohr der Dschihadisten gilt, haben IS-Kämpfer "eine Bombenserie mit Sprengstoffgürteln und Sprengsätzen am Dienstag ausgeführt".

News Agency Aamaq (close to isis) released a claim of responsibility.
"IS fighters did a series of bombings using explosive belts on Tuesday"
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>>32251
Closed refugee camps i.e. you're staying locked until you die. As simple as this.
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The Grand Mufti of Egypt says ISIS should be called The Terrorist State, Not the Islamic State.

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia said ISIS is the greatest enemy to Islam on the planet right now.

All the people blaming all of Islam for the actions of the religious extremists should start blaming all Christians for idiots like David Koresh and Jim Jones and The 1996 Atlanta Olympics bomber.
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Does anyone have screenshots of the mayday thread ?? The guy predicted Brussels being the first to get bombed as that is the beginning of zero hour
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>>32302
I think that only real issue you could argue with against EU etc. is that they are slow and really bureaucratic. Also yeah, that is the scary part, in times like these you get people like Kotlaba and such. I was stunned when they were elected, i really thought people did remember those atrocities during times manipulators ruled the country.
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>>32309
Thank you for posting this!
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/donald-trump-brussels-2016-reaction/index.html
i really fucking hate this guy.
those rhetorics are not constructive nor helpful , it just creates tension everwhere. and things will spiral out of control thanks to people like him all over world.
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>>32309
And? What did you want to imply?
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http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21695284-bombs-brussels-airport-and-metro-kill-least-26-days-after-arrest-europeu2019s?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/daysafterthearrestofeuropesmostwantedterroristislamicstateappearstohavestruckback
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>>32315
>blaming trump for this
the left working hard and fast to spin this on him can't wait to cnn later today
>BREAKING: DONALD TRUMP 2 MONTHS AGO SAID THERE WERE PROBLEMS IN BRUSSEL WHICH DIRECTLY FORCED THESE POOR REFUGEES TO LASH OUT

>WILL DONALD DISAVOW?
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>>32264
>Even the #stopIslam hashtag is becoming the most popular hashtag right now on Twitter
>#stopIslam

another missed occasion to have #Kalergi trending
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>>32321
I am not blaming him for it, i am talking about his rhetorics, he isnt even worst one today, but he is the most famous i reckon.
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>>32316
Well honestly I'd like to be implying that Islam is mostly the same religion as Christianity except for having an extra prophet, but really Christianity is mostly the same as Judaism except for the whole 'Son of God' thing, and Judaism is pretty much a rip-off of sections of the old Babylonian religion, which was in turn taken from the Sumerians, and so on and so forth. So it all kind of evens out in the end. The Old Testament in The Bible and the first few chapters of the Quran are word for word copies of The Jewish Tanakh, The first 5 Books of the Torah. Nobody ever brings this up though because its like all three religions are in denial of this fact.

The best thing is how according to the Quran, The Prophet Mohammed and Jesus Christ will be resurrected at the time of Armageddon together and ride around the middle east on horseback smiting evildoers with holy swords from God.

Anyway, It's pretty obvious what my original point was.

tl;dr All the monotheistic religions based on worshiping a borrowed Babylonian goddess called Yahweh that they mixed up with another god called El are pretty dumb in the first place.

t. a Polytheist.
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This is turning into a /pol/ thread just like the other one. Why don't focus on what happened ?

Hospitals are asking everyone in and around Brussels to give blood if they have O- or A- blood.
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hey so what is isis motif???
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>>32324
>I'm not blaming him I'm blaming his rhetoric
Good one totally not blaming him for the moronic policies of Merkel and the EU. It's time to stop. Seriously take responsibility and fix your problems.
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>>32336
motivation
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>>32337
Jesus, stop twisting what i said, and dont even bring Merkel and such into it, i was literally just pointing out those are dangerous rhetorics to be have nowadays.
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>>32248
Against who?

The war that needs to be fought is one against Extremist Islam (not all of Islam, but at least 10% of it). No one is going to do that
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>>32334
Lets focus. Islamic terrorists spread throughout Europe and nothing effective is done by the EU. How is it that the US has 1xx people that attempt to go into the ME and train while EU has thousands? Could EU policies have led to this?
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>>32341
No they aren't if you're willing to fix the problem. You've lost by calling them dangerous.
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>>32343
I imagine some of it is geography and exposure. I'm an Amerifat and I've lived in Chicago, Denver and Miami and really don't see much Muslims. I mean I see them but it isn't a whole lot.

Now I went to London when I was 8, and I went to London when I was 28, and I couldn't believe the amount of Muslims there. It was unreal. There is just a ton of exposure.

Now in Germany they just brought over 1.2 million more. So the problem is going to spread there big time.
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>>32346
So insted of focusing on helping the victims, first response acording to you skould be "THIS IS JUST THE BEGGINING! WE HAVE TO STOP THEM!" please get some empathy.
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>>32331
>tfw the apocalypse is just a buddy cop movie with Jesus and Mohammed
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anyone defending islam right now is practicing modern day appeasement and it's not going to make the problem any better

imagine if in 1945 people said shit like #notallgermans

you cant get rid of a cancerous ideology with these kinds of appeasement roadblocks in please, the entire religion needs to be refounded
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>>32360
looking at it with enough distance nowadays, you can see how "notallgermans" actually works, for instance. atrocities cause by germans do not excuse ones caused upon sudetelands by czechs.
but please lets focus on the news, take these to /pol/.
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http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/self-immolation-in-idomeni?articleId=USRTSBNPM&utm_source=Facebook
in other news
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>>32364
>&utm_source=Facebook
I lol'd
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>>32360
In 1918, Germany was as damaged as other european country, but it was all their fault and they had to pay ridiculous amounts.
It was in Hitler's program and helped him get to power.
In 1945, Nazis were judged, but innocent Germans were left alone, and Europe was rebuild with Germany and the rest of Europe hand in hand.
It worked way better. Until the euro and economic crisis at least.
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>>32239
We already have enough shit here in latin America thank god
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>>32353
You will continue hiding behind the victims today and every other attack comes up. We all know what happens to those that lie with flea infested dogs.

I hope Trump is able to make an ally out of Russia. Lord knows the EU hasn't and will never have the iron in the spine needed to address this problem.
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>>32365
yeah, i clicked on the link on facebook, so?
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>>32364
Muslims always seem to find a way to go up in flames...
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>>32368
Really ? The tyrant who sillences decent is an ally ?
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>>32279
yep, this is really disappointing, because everyone who voted for this party I askedy why did they vote like that they didn't know...just a rebellion or what...
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>>32351
in d.c. there are a ton of muslims
at least half of the college population @gmu was middle eastener
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WHY AM I SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT TERRORISM.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT ME.

FUCK ALL THIS.

~ 99% of the honest world populous
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>>32382
Caps makes you look retarded.
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BBC reporting that IS claims responsibility. https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/712321788336807936
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>>32384
Complaining about caps makes you the retard.
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>>32346
This isn't a contest lmao.
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>>32379
Usually that is how it goes.
It's always been that way too.

You vote with your emotions instead of your brain.
The people you voted for are driven by emotions rather than brain.
They feel sadness and anger and that feeling is multiplied by the others feeling the same things that are near to you.

Everybody wants that quick justice whether it is going after someone that beat your friend up or voting for the party that will have the most effect the quickest.

We're a weak species(and I say that with as little tipping as possible) that will show our teeth and go for the nearest stick when our emotions act up.
This was good once but at the moment we have too much vitriol for everything that doesn't fall within our world-view. Or perhaps we need to go for the stick, beat down the opposition and create a more homogenised world without such contrasting opinions. But I fear that if we do, then the stick will be swung to hard and topple the whole darn thing over.

Either way I'm sure it wont be resolved during our lifetimes which is too bad. But at least we can try to use brain over brawn and do what we think will further our civilization while leaving the others behind in the dirt.
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>>32384
Fair enough, but what I have typed is the truth, and truth is all that matters.
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>fellow eurotards are still defending their open borders
When America sneezes the world catches a cold. I hope you guys vote in Trump because if he tightens American Int travel and visas we will have no choice but to finally admit letting this slow trickle for years now is taking its toll.
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>>32260
Projecting much?
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>The Grand Mufti of Egypt says ISIS should be called The Terrorist State, Not the Islamic State.
As he supports the radical islamist muslim brotherhood which is responsible for stuff like radical islamist kindergardens and mosques.
>The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia said ISIS is the greatest enemy to Islam on the planet right now.
As he beheads people for saying anything anti-fundamental islam, throws gays of buildings, wants jews genocided and made chess illegal for being haram, allows husbands to kill and eat their wives if starving.
And he also funds radical islamic mosques and organisations.

>he still falls for taqyia
good kuffar
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>>32310
Bumping for this
Please fellow anons
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>>32309
>>32413
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>>32310
Couldn't you check some archive`?
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>>32252
>The next task is to require asylum-seekers to register and be sorted as close to home as possible, probably Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan. Ideally those who travelled by boat to Europe would be sent back to a camp in one of those three countries—to prove that they had just wasted their precious savings paying people-traffickers to take them on a pointless journey. But that would meet legal and political objections, partly because of Turkey’s human-rights record (see our special report this week). So, there should also be processing camps in the first EU country they reach, probably Greece or Italy.

Is this shit for real?
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>>32421
>all that greentext
aka how to move radical islam closer to europe

jej this is going to be one fun shitfest to watch over the next decade or so
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>>32419
There is no /news/ archive.
We effectively predicted an international terrorist act and no one will be able to see that.
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>>32431
>we
The threads were on /pol/.
I have links for both of them.
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>>32432
ah okay fuck me then

/news/ still needs an archive though
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Stopping all refugees out of fear is just cowardice and giving in to terrorism.

You can hide behind your border controls in fear, i would rather stand up to them, just like we stood up to Hitler, alone, during WW2.
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>>32218
>Brussels
>capital of Europe

Kek!
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>>32436
Without borders we couldn't have stopped Hitler.
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>>32436
This, the US can handle being 60% white, why can't Europe?

Just build more houses fam
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I keep seeing shit like "Extremists leaving home for ISIS only to come back."

Assuming that they aren't taking the long way back, how the hell has Europe not declared these palces a no travel zone or whatever?

Seems like it's your own fault, senpai.
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>>32440
Because the USA doesnt import people actively trying to destory it.
Because native europeans will soon be a minority in their own countries
Because people are living very densely together with ridicilously high rents.
Because there will be even worse ethnic tensions than there already are.
Because the soil of the USA isnt chained to thousand of years of history, blood and sweat,
Because the USA is a nation of immigrants.
>>32436
>just like we stood up to Hitler, alone, during WW2.
>burger are this delusional

So taking measures against a islamic invasion is cowardice?
Id say keeping the borders open and welcoming them is. If we closed the borders and deported everyone of them, the ISIS strategy would be completly destroyed
Its cowardice from action to do nothing, its cowardice from social backlash to be pro-refugees, its betrayal to own country, countrymen and ancestors to let them destroy you while you lie on the ground in the fetal position shouting: Its okay i understand your anger, youre just a victim of the racist system. I wont protect myself, its what the jihadists want!
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What I think is hilarious is that the answer is obvious to everyone, but the West has become too pussy to admit it:

Destroy ISIS. Kill them all.

Kill the Joker, Batman. Just do it.

God forbid we should ever have to get MEAN again...
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https://mobile.twitter.com/IvarMol/status/712220187488083968

> belgium man tweets that he cant teach class with all the muslim students clapping
>police show up and tell him to stop
EU is lost.
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>>32239
>America
Would be the end of ISIS, any president would use it as CB; even Bernie would respond with, fuck I don't know, the Canadian shock infantry.

>They miss enduring chemical warfare.
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>>32413

Just so you know, taqyia only exists in Shia Islam, and both of the above guys are Sunni.
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>>32449
>Destroy ISIS. Kill them all.
How do you destroy an ideology?
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>>32445
I can only speak for Sweden but to me it seems that the general idea has been "We don't know what a persons motives are for going down there, they could be fighting for ISIS or against them. And we shouldn't "exile" an ISIS fighter if they try to come back but rather "rehabilitate" them and integrate them into society again.
Give them jobs or free cash and what not.
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>>32457
Donald Trump probably made that post.
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>>32454
>he fell for it again
reactionimage47.png
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>>32454
Wrong.
It also exists in sunni islam but is restricted to only be used against non-muslims and in times of danger.
In shia islam its allowed to be practiced between muslims and whenever needed.
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>>32461

So you were just pretending to be retarded?

Or do you actually not know the difference?

Either way, you're wasting your time here.
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>>32457
You kill their members.

And you don't stop til you can't take it anymore.

...or tell Saudi Arabia to stop fucking everything up. That, or the murder. Y'know, which ever...
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>>32458
Shit's not logical, cap'n.
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>>32463

It's not times of danger, it's if you are under compulsion or coercion by a non-muslim.

Neither of those men is in such a situation, and they have both made multiple fatwa on the subject.

There is evidence that more muslims condone terrorist attacks than we thought, but this is not evidence, this is a shitty conspiracy theory.
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>>32467
not him but thats entirely logical, anything else just makes isis stronger
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>>32466
You're generating more extremists.

Look at Latin America for examples of how even a powerful military regime cannae effectively carry such acts out. Vulnerable, disease rittled natives are the most they could ever manage.

Every strike creates more collateral damage.
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>>32464
Either you are the most foolish kuffar in the world or maybe you're just doing taqyyia right now lmao.

Either way both Sunni and Shia use that man.
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>>32451
this 1984 / thought police bad god damn
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>>32245
He's satirizing what seems to be the attitude in Europe.
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>>32446

you are a coward for being scared of an extremely small minority of muslims who turn out to be terrorists. they have defeated you because you want to cowardly protect yourself instead of helping 100000s of innocent refugees.

imagine if people like you had a say in ww2, lets not stand up to hitler because we might get hurt. (assuming you're not american, then that is literally exactly what you did)
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>>32469
>implying radical muslims dont always feel that theyve been the victim of the western imperialism boogeyman and threatened by it
Either way you still you didnt adress the part that allows it to also be used against non-muslims without any compulsion or coercion.

>Although taqiya is often regarded as a shibboleth of Shiʿites, it is incorrect to consider it exclusive to them. The basic principle is agreed upon by the Sunnite ulama, but they tend to restrict its use in dealings with non-Muslims AND when under compulsion
>see Sarḵasi, XXIV, esp. p. 45; Ālusi, III, pp. 121-26
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>>32466
You can't really win an idealogical war by atrophy.
It has to be from within. You can either change the middle-east's culture to be western or you'll have to kill every single Muslim.
But here's the thing. In the eyes of the current generation you'll be a horrible hero but to the next you'll be a mass murderer that destroyed a way of life. You'll make an entire people a martyr and that in turn will once again fuel the flames of radical Islam.
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>>32451
I'm sure they were clapping for the emergency personnel & police arriving to contain the situation, right? Right???
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>>32207
Top kek
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>>32331
The difference is that Christianity hasn't had a holy war for over 500 years. Islam is currently fighting a holy war against the entire west.
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>>32374
Proof? As far as I've been able to tell, this is a meme.
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>>32374
same anon as >>32496
Also, just wanting to add, learn to fucking spell! It's Dissent.*
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>>32355
Starring Stallone and Russell?
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>>32399
You speak sense. People dont think, they just feel, mostly fear, and go with it. Base animal behaviour, and humanity should strive to be better than that to survive on the long run.
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>>32494
That's just wrong. Islam do not have a religious leader and is at its weakest. It's because it's as weak as it is now that we get crazy people blowing themselves up. You can't have a war against people, that's crazy. You can have a war against a country (or empire) though.

If you unify all the Islam countries under a Caliph, and that dude say "let's go invade europe", Europe is fucked. However, that would allow the ONU, OTAN and other military alliances to have a target. I believe the last Caliphate was the ottoman empire that ended after the first world war, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

As of now, all those madmen are fighting each other and eventually sending suicide-bombers.
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>>32497
Every Russian on 4chan.
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>>32502
You are correct that they have no real central leadership, yes. However, I believe it's kind of like a swarm of jellyfish: They are all going the same way, and have the same general idea of what they're doing, even without leadership. In any case, my point is that Christians and Jews don't go around killing people for not being Jewish or Christian ANYMORE. Muslims are continuing this behavior, with no sign of stopping.
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>>32202
REMOVE KEBAB
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>>32481
>The "extremely small minority"
pic related
Dig around a bit more you will find even more figures supporting my view.
I dont fear them, I hate them for fighting in a cultural war against us.

>they have defeated you because you want to cowardly protect yourself instead of helping 100000s of innocent refugees.
Not my buisness they shouldve gone to saudi-arabia, turkey or any other close nations.
They have no right to be in europe.
Most of them arent even syrians and a majority of them are young able-bodied men that should be fighting for their country instead of risking their lifes for social benefits and raping european girls.

If I had a say in WW2, the tyrannical soviet regime wouldnt have existed as long as it did, millions of ukrainians wouldnt have been starved, millions of germans wouldnt have been exiled from their lands, thousands of german women wouldnt have been raped by the red army, 200000 croats and slovenes wouldnt have been slaughtered or sent into gulags, japanese cities wouldnt have been nuked, 33 million chinese wouldnt have died from communist policies and germany wouldnt be forced to exist under unfair conditions. Less people wouldve died.
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When something like this happens, I always see a million idiots on Twitter saying "Hey, islamophobes, we don't know if it's muslims yet." It's racist to notice something happens frequently and to make an educated assumption of who is behind the attack and it always does end up being an Islamic attack. When will these people wake up?
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>>32485
>leftist idiot
No friend, they were clapping that faggots like you are welcoming them to future bombing sites like Atlanta Airport, Indianapolis Airport, etc.
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>>32473
Well, latino here, the dictatorships made things worse in regards to genocide. Right now you have, let's say, 10/20000 Muslims as terrorists, (almost random number), as of now most of them are being stupid in a new culture, which if it can get past the actual crysis, should be over in a generation or two. But when you activelly start hunting heads all of them are going to grab what they can and thow it at you. I mean that there are lots of other "variety" Muslims who are fighting the IS, and even more fucking up their supplies, and if you go "ALL IN ALL DEAD" they WILL go to IS for protection.

>>32504
It's their year 1437, in about 20 they should be done.
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>>32508
They will wake up when they're about to be shot in front of a mass grave, or raped by a jihadi.
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>>32504
Yeah, give them stability and inland security and they might just choose to farm the land instead.

Islam wasn't always bad, and Christianity wasn't always as "moderate" as they are right now. They are fucking religions, and blind people to their inhumanity. There is a chance for Islam to chill and an equal chance for Christianity to go haywire, for the simple fact that they base their beliefs on scriptures, texts that contains a huge amount of stupidity.
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>>32510
I forgot my wink to the last one.
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>>32511
Great, so the west is doomed.
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>>32508
Doesn't matter if they're Islamic or not. Democrats still want to let families of known terrorists into the US, give them free everything, and support them until they alluh ackbar into your local airport. They could be Russian, North Korean, or whatever. All terrorists are friends of liberals.
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>you cant snackbar the allahbark
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>>32510
In about 20, there might not be a western civilization at the current rate. My suggestion is to send all the rapefugees back to the Kebabistan and North Africa, and let them ride out their "Holy War" phase in complete quarantine. If we need the resources in the ME that badly, we find another place. I believe they essentially need an international time-out.
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>>32516
Depends. Maybe its doomed but not for the reason you think it is.
I'd say its headed downwards because people like you don't fight back and give in too easily due to being called a racist.

The west is doomed when you decide for yourself it is.
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What's happening to islam due to jihadists is what happened to socialism due to communism.

It'll be decades before its reputation improves - if it ever does.

>B-BUT integration!

Too little, too late.

Batten down the hatches, folks, it's gonna be an interesting century...
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>>32512
I didn't see this because I was typing out >>32519
So it seems we have somewhat similar ideas about the solution?
>>32516
I sure as hell hope not.
>>32517
Proofs?
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>>32506
rather links related:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/51-of-u-s-muslims-want-sharia-60-of-young-muslims-more-loyal-to-islam-than-to-u-s
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/a-year-after-iraq-war/
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6758207/1-in-5-British-Muslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html
http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/al-jazeera-arabic-poll-49-9-support-osama-bin-laden.712/
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html
http://www.terrorismanalysts.com/pt/index.php/pot/article/view/sharia-adherence-mosque-survey/html
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.co.at/2008/05/that-tiny-percentage-of-radical-muslims.html#.VvGcvOLhCUn
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/survey-on-islam-in-austria-18-of-muslims-support-death-sentence-for-apostasy-21-9-oppose-democracy/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/
http://www.thelocal.dk/20151013/danish-muslims-more-devout-than-in-years-past
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193969#.VvGdWOLhCUk
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>>32516
I've been stockpiling food and ammo for 10 years. I swim through 5.56 rounds like Scrooge mcduck in my underground bunker. Go to /k/ and ask how many of them would lose in a land war in the US.
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>>32457
Make associating oneself with the ideology more terrifying than reason will allow.
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>>32525
>proofs?
Be American. Watch news. I didn't make any specific claims that warrant a source, that's my opinion, faggot.
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>>32521
This anon >>32525
I have to agree with you, people cave too quickly to public shaming. I'm honestly welcoming the extreme Leftist ideas and actions. The reason is that people will get tired of their shit. I'm already tired of it. I think that may be one of the reasons people are voting for Trump. They're tired of politicians who pander to bullshit PC and other leftist crap.
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>>32512
But they destroy stability and inland security.
And yes islam was always bad, from our perspective, they always have fought a holy war against the west.
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>>32530
>people willing to blow themselves up for god
I don't really see how you'd scare them. They're dead minds already.
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>>32446
Then just do background checks and guard the borders, cap the number of entrants. Is that so bad?

Also technically if you let enough immigrants in any country is a country of immigrants.
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>>32533
I hope you aren't implying that only islam is bad. Have you read some of the shit Christians beleive? Those same Christians who tell stories of Adam and Eve and Noah's arc are mocking Islamists for believing in the 72 virgins deal.
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>>32521
Give in too easily? What are you talking about? I I have never taken their charges of racism seriously and have never let it discourage me from anything that i would have done otherwise. That's a weird thing to say. The "refugees" and politically correct atmosphere around it will be the death of Europe, charges of racism doesn't shape my attitudes or actions about it, I am just being realistic.
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>>32531
I wasn't not disagreeing with you, I was just asking if there was any irrefutable evidence, so that we don't sound like a couple of nutcases with their tinfoil hats screwed on too tightly.
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>>32451
They're practicing to be Americans for when America has to take European refugees
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>>32539
Pardon me then but you seemed so quick to accept that the west was doomed.
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>>32525
I meant that part as a joke.
My ideal solution (as in "I don't thing geopolitics yould allow it") would be to have the diferent sects in their own states in africa, while being watched by the UN and the OTAN.

And as of now, how hard it is to scan someone?
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>>32533
And the "west" always fought war too. But that was before globalization of nearly everything. No war in Europe or America for quite awhile. Why can't it be the same for Islam?

They don't destroy stability, they are using pieces of lands where the government is weak or not present.
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>>32540
Shit, double negative was not intended, my bad.
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>>32205
>>32238
Link embeds image of ISIS press release:
https://www.reddit.com/live/wmk50bsm9vt3/updates/7b3c610e-f060-11e5-a7ba-0e0d0123fd4d - direct link is i.imgur.com SLASH iLhgslr DOT jpg
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>>32542
It is. I'm not happy about it and i will always oppose it but that is just the reality of the situation.
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>>32540
My own opinion makes me think that I am a nutcase. How else should I feel, though? Every day, I see 'islam kills 30, islam kills 21.' Then, not a week later, we have liberals screaming to bring Syrians in in the hundreds of thousands.
I have never felt this way before. I have always been open to immigration. But the timing couldn't be better for those new Isis recruits who are looking to sneak into the US. Plus, once they commit their attack, their family stays here on our dollar. Isis even admitted to wanting to do this.

Maybe I am a tinfoiler. I feel like one. But I have 2 kids. 2 kids, man.
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>>32543
Apparently, pretty hard.
However, I think it's fairly safe to assume that many young Muslim males, with no family ties, aren't going to Europe to live long and productive lives.
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>>32547
Then I stand by my original point. Its doomed when you yourself decide it is.
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>>32538
Ive read christian stuff, having absurd stories isnt the same as actively persuing the destruction of infidels.
Christianity used to do it (with smaller intensity) , and it was good from our european perspective.
But now Islam is doing it and theres no need for arguments or "we also did similair stuff 1000 years ago!", this is a war and its us vs them, killed or get killed.
Its good for them, so theyre gonna do it and we need to stop it for our sake.
PS im a atheist but do catholic stuff for the sake of tradition
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>>32550
Maybe being a nutcase is well-founded now. If you have 2 kids, you should be assume the best, but prepare for the worst, for their sake. With luck, the west rides this out. I don't need to speak of the end without luck.
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>>32432
Hit us up with those links
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>>32554
Also I hate the muslims for doing this but I understand them. We should be doing the same but sadly arent.
Its natural they saw a opening and are using it now. Its our fault for being so weak and allowing it.

>>32556
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/67232630/
>>>/pol/67772911
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>>32554
>tradition
Ohh, you're THAT type of athiest.
You don't need to convince me that islam is worse, but what Christianity and Catholicism do to politics is pretty bad too. Islam is the angsty teenager of the religions right now.
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>>32542
My vision of the future of Europe is what is depicted in Submission, I don't know that the author meant it to be taken that way or not but that is what i believe to be in the near future for Europe: Islamization. Based on breeding levels, the lack of willingness to integrate and the recent influx of Muslims from Africa and the middle-east it is almost certain, do you honestly doubt that that is the most likely outcome?
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>>32559
meant to reply to this post >>32553

You are delusional
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>>32559
Sometimes prejudice and hate serve a purpose. It seems to me that these 2 words are the only answer to your problems.
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>liberals
>eu won't have a nationalist leader w/ political power again
>Clinton/Sanders want open borders.

Don't let the US become the future Belgium.
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>>32559
I'm going to recommend a book. I'm about to try and find it myself. It's by a guy called Tom Kratman, and it's called "Caliphate."
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>>32551
Maybe children and women, then?
>>32554
Man, it was less than 600 year ago.
>>32558
Yeah. My beef with them is that politics are religion in their worldview.
>>32559
Spain suffered the same a few hundreds of years ago. it turned up well at that, most integrated, the rest was expelled and the word Almuhada was born.
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>>32565
I believe that women and children should get priority, and men should be allowed in ONLY if they are the father/husband of said children and women.
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>>32557
Thanks man. I don't know, this stuff seems pretty general, I don't feel a cause to panic yet.
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>>32561
What are you talking about. I am neither prejudiced against Muslims nor do i hate them, i am being realistic about the data. There is a lack of willingness to integrate, we did take in millions of muslims from ME and Africa and muslims do have higher birthrates than the native population. I have not said one thing that is untrue or based on hatred
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i never did anything to these people

did you see that statement, 'crusaders', way to deal with these guys is take down their internet
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>>32566
Morally, I don't like it, but it's the best we can do.
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>>32564
Sounds a bit Turner Diaries to me, those types of books are usually total shit but i might give it a read eventually.
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>>32571
Morals tend to take a backburner when you're talking about the survival of your culture. Worry about what's right and wrong later.
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>>32565
Yes but the 14 and 15th century crusades were mostly a response to islamic ottoman expansion in europe.
So they dont count as bad things in my book, especially since im from a country that has been occupied by it for some time and its influences destroyed its stability until today.
That throws us back to 700-800 years ago and that gets rounded to 1000.
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>>32574
Beg pardon, but what is Turner Diaries? Also, I haven't read Caliphate yet, as I need to find a copy. I was just given the recommendation by a /k/ommando in a boo/k/ thread. I've already read some of his work, and if it takes the same shape, I'd say he's a good author, if a little simple in his style.
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>>32529

::like::
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>>32578
Crusades?
I was talking about the Inquisition.
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>>32412
>le projecting meme
kill yourself
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>>32579
It's a book about a future race-war. I'm not saying that they are similar in content or that the book is bigoted or anything but those type of books can be great but i find that most are written in a simplistic style with no real emphasis on a good narrative or character development and no real effort put into the prose which i have a feeling that this book is. But, i haven't read it so i might be completely wrong, that's just the vibe i get when i read about it. Either way, i appreciate the recommendation, I probably will read it eventually.
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>>32309
Too bad Muhammad would approve of their actions while Jesus would absolutely condemn Christian extremists.

Also, Islamic 'extremist' is a misnomer.
They're not extremists, they're orthodox.
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This thread is no longer bumpable due to reply limit...
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>>32601
nvm... We probably keep going to 250 or 300?!
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>>32602
Well see when we hit it.
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>>32331
Ever Christian should know that the torah and the old testament are the same until the torah ends.
The Jewish and Christian old testament should be exactly the same, but Jews reject Jesus as Lord

t. raised Christian
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>>32606
Hey, Jesus has a pretty high ranking in my personal pantheon of gods and goddesses and demigods and the like. I'd bet he could beat the shit out of Ares or Quetzalcoatl. Possibly even Freya if she didn't try to sex him first.
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>>32353
Did you watch the video? None of them said anything about 'helping the victims". Everyone just said something along the lines of "we must stop ISIS".

You just sound like one of those people who have a hate boner for Donald Trump and love to find something wrong in every little thing he does.
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>>32611
I don't, I was literally just talking about the poor choice of words
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>>32605
I blame Hiro for keeping us in the dark like this...
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>>32676
Maybe Hiro doesn't know either.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BDRVgFIqSXL/?taken-by=vovkadetka
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I kinda wanna just leave this guy here so the people can, can get rid of this twitter account:
https://twitter.com/Hassan_tambuwal
the world is fucked.

we are legion we do not forgive we do not forget.
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>>32689
Cut it with that stupid legion shit.
Its for the authorities to handle this and not some 14 year old skiddes.

If you want him checked then send a tip to FBI or any other agency that deals with these people.
>>
The highest priority for Europe, in fact, for the entire western world, is to make sure that this incident doesn't taint our hearts with any racist feelings. We MUST remain true to who we are, no matter what happens.

If we let ourselves fall, we will be utterly obliterated as a people.

Our sympathies must go out to the families of the bombers, and their countrymen, who will no doubt experience even greater discrimination as a result of this.
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>>32508
It's smallminded pricks like you who keep society in the state it's in.
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>>32695
Indeed. I myself am having a "Sorry Refugees" party were I'll offer my ass up for free to any takers.

Hopefully this gesture will inspire others to do the same.
Maybe then we'll be able to provide some sort of comfort to these vulnerable people.

Bless.
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>>32494
Also most christian holy wars, when enacted by Europeans, were against other Europeans. Whites are naturally cruel to their own.
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>>32247
Not really considering all these attackers were born in Europe

>>32244
>>32207
I challenge you to go into the Qu'ran and find anything calling Islam "the religion of peace". It's the religion of submission to God, that's what the name means.
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>>32382
>Why should I care for my nation
>Why should I care for my fellow people
>Why should I care

The answer to that is nihilism is self-terminating, both philosophically, and physically when applied to a society.
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>>32697
Statistics are not "small-minded" matters, fucktard.
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>>32206
Wonder if that'll give him a win in Utah and Arizona? Godspeed Hoompa-Lumpah man.
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>>32697
Found the sandnigger
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>>32711
You still didn't give a reason why, though.
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A radical Muslim will throw you off the roof of a building. A moderate Muslim will push the elevator button for him
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>>32726
Got any more of those?
I'll try one I just made up.

A hungry hungry hippo will swallow you whole. A hungry hippo will push the elevator button for him.
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>>32717
hope so
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>>32331
I hate foreign religions, but actively worshipping an old hipster deity is cringe inducing. Just face it bro-we're a conquered people. Our traditions are gone.

We will never have quaint little towns with an ancient but immaculately maintained shrine to Odin, nor in our cities will we have temples with masterful statuary in a Roman/Greek style, burning incense to local deities. Of course, in this modern age, nobody but crazy people will be seriously religious, it's all just pantomime, but even our devout would each have their own character, their own superstitions. For their eccentricity, they'd still be one of us, far less imposing than the likes of Falwell.

Instead, we get the McDonald's of religions, a sterile whitewashed church on every corner, and the philosophy of foreign conquerors that rejected everything not of themselves.

We are pretty much who Obama says we should be. Self loathing, abnegating, so heavily invested in a religion that utterly contradicts our own innate morality that we now hate ourselves, see outsiders as inherently more "pure," and seek our death at their hands.

Arabs, Chinese, and Indians have something we don't. In every aspect of their society, they have things that are uniquely theirs. Constant, comforting reminders that their history is as old as human memory, and that in this world, they do belong. All we have is stories of past crimes that we have to make up for. A suspicion that even our native lands were stolen from the neanderthals isn't far off the mark. We are a *bad* people. We followed the wrong religion, the wrong moral philosophy, who knows what else we're doing wrong even now?

This has turned into a long ass rant. I'll finish in the next post.
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Hungry hippo? Nah....you're thinking about cheddar when it's clearly brie time. Step into my office for a second...
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>>32731

The only hope, if there is any, is to seek a new identity. Something beyond religion, something maybe rooted in the enlightenment, but without the degenerate overtones it's gained in the last century or so. Venerate the likes of Isaac Newton or Nicola Tesla, and how they built upon work of the alchemists. I don't mean you should worship them, or follow their teachings dogmatically-- that rigid sense of purity is a middle eastern thing. I just mean, look upon them and think, "You know what? These are my people. This is what *we* do."

I'll make sure my kids know the old mythology, because it's a part of our history, but I refuse to do anything like religious veneration. It's just childish.
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>>32731
Willfully given up =/= conquered.

Also, Norse never was a religion per say but rather a collection of fairy tales turned into a religion in the new century by bored children/teens. That's the truth.
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>>32733
Another thing, I know this is a tangent, but I blame Christianity for feminism. Christian laws regarding marriage, written to civilize the middle east, were not as relevant to us, and only served to turn us against each other.

We came from the cold north, things were harsh, we had to become a pair-bonding, K-selected population to survive. Family and honor (read: reliability) had to be more important than pleasure-seeking. Men and women still had conflicting goals, but they had less time to play them against each other, being rejected by a partner had much heavier consequences when winter came. We didn't need threats of damnation in the afterlife to keep us from sin-- damnation came in this world.
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>>32742
Nah, you're conquered.
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>>32743
You're deluded to the level of being institutionalized but I'll entertain 1 of your points:

> We didn't need threats of damnation in the afterlife to keep us from sin-- damnation came in this world.

There's no reason sin doesn't warm you up. Of course you need the concept of damnation in the afterlife, man will do it regardless!
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>>32717
Utah was a longshot before. We'll see.
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>>32742
No, we had a different understanding of religion from the middle easterners. Their religion was developed by emperors to enforce their right to rule. Natural religion is just kind of a feeling of connectedness with the world. Hearing a weird noise and feeling like it's proof that the forest itself is communicating with you is an example.

People today still have this tendency. If you know anyone who thinks they are haunted by a benign poltergeist, you're seeing a small piece of natural religion. They know it's bullshit, but it just feels right to believe it in the moment.
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>>32747
life was harsh everywhere anytime for everyone for most of existence you fucktard.
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>>32743
Just because you keep getting rejected by women doesn't mean you need to go all Eric S. Raymond about them.

Seriously, when you talk like that everyone around you can tell you're just a bitter cuck.
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>>32751
But they had Mastadons back then...
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>>32751
Only due to competition between people. What changes is the reproductive strategies that work.

Who survives to adulthood defines a society.
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>>32756
Jesus, you're autistic as fuck. I hope you're only pretending to be autismal.
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Because /pol/ is where news is and this board is a diversion tactic to SHUT IT DOWN
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>>32756
how about toilets and clean water fucktard?
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>>32527
Fucking muslims and their allahu ackbar obsession.
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>>32756

> for this we attribute our advancement

http://imgur.com/RY7bSZy
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