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Venezuela election, opposition wins landslide.
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http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11753

Venezuela’s National Electoral Council (CNE) has released the preliminary but “irreversible” results of the country’s National Assembly elections.

In the early hours of this Monday morning, Tibisay Lucena, the President of the CNE, congratulated the Venezuelan people on its impressive “demonstration of civility” before announcing that the Venezuelan opposition coalition, the Roundtable of Democratic Unity (MUD), had swept to victory in the Venezuelan legislative elections.

According to Lucena, the ruling United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) has so far gained just 46 seats in parliament while their political opponents, the MUD, have gained 99 out of a total of 167 - according to the most recent count. Twenty-two seats are yet to be announced, including three representatives for the country’s indigenous population.
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Among all the shitty news in the world, it's nice to see that Latin America is cleaning itself up.
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Several opinions on this:

Maduro lost the elections, the opposition didn't win it. The Opposition still have no viable plan for Venezuela apart from hand over the country to the Koch Brothers and centralize all power and money into the inner suburbs of Caracas.

The PSUV have basically sat on their thumb up their ass since Saudi Arabia crashed oil prices. There should have been massive government stimulus programs to diversify the economy away from just oil but there was none of that.

Also I think this is interesting as it shows how western imperialism is actually done in the 21st century. Venezuela's policies were all pretty bog standard protectionist Keynesian market policy which most western countries used to protect their domestic markets to build up their local economy before hitting international markets, South Korea literally uses a protectionist planned economy, yet Venezuela this failed because it's a country that relies heavily on imported goods from the United States and again, the PSUV were too retarded to actually invest in anything worth while and like all Venezuelan parties, they were corrupt as shit and pocketed billions for themselves.

While I actually think the PSUV have done great for Venezuela while Chavez was in power (massive reduction in poverty, developement of rural and poor areas, huge increase in health services etc etc) Maduro was and is basically a fucking retard who didn't even have a real vision for what Venezuela was going towards.

Either way, It will be interesting watching the opposition fuck the poor in Venezuela while the rich innercity caracas faggots that populate reddit and 4chan and the western media talk about how awesome venezuela is again while millions basically starve in rural areas and the barrios return to bangladesh tier slums again.
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Oil rents, populist blowhards, provoking the US in the western hemisphere, and Nigerian-tier economic management, any one of these is enough to kill a state. My advice to MUD would be to immediately lead off with all necessary cuts and layoffs, and to go further before shorter. You have the mandate and it's expected. Down the line recapitalize the best of the worst programs and personal, but under no circumstances draw out the purges over months.
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>>7102
If this happened they would have a full on actual Socialist Revolution on their hands.

Venezuela is an incredibly class stratified country. The poor working people, the rural peasants and the indigenous won't take a complete reversal of the Bolivarian revolution lying down.

MUD needs to be incredibly careful to try attract new investment into the country, while also keeping the people happy with their social programs.
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>>7120
Are you the same idiot that was just saying import substitution industrialization has ever worked? Chavez was an idiot and his ilk took one of the best countries in the world and nearly turned it into one of the worst. His' is not a legacy you accommodate. Outside investment is not going to come for as long as their entitled, nationalization spastic, and erratically populist populations of idiots still have their greasy hands on oil rents.

They won't be starved or disappeared, but elections have consequences, and as a result of legacy mismanagement, chemo is necessary. You don't accommodate the minds of red shirts when they have none, and why win their hearts when they never had any intention of not being a whore for programs.
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>>7066
The oil price crashing has more to do with cha boi and other idiot dictators than only Saudi policy. You see, supply has been rising for some time. In Venezuela the socialist government was doling out check after check with the assumption that oil prices would continue to skyrocket. As their repulsive government grew its costs grew as well. When oil (which constitutes over 90% of Venezuela's exports) began to crash the government needed over $100/ barrel oil prices to maintain its self. The instinct of unaccountable idiots like him was to immediately produce more, but when everyone did this the price only crashed further.

Not even the government's retinue of state wards can accept blank checks as payment and fight on empty stomachs, but they were never the problem. They're among the cheapest goys in the world. The people i'm talking about purging are their political entrepreneur bosses living out the "socialist dream".
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>>6994
I hope you're not older than 20 because if so your naivete stops having excuses. Neoliberalism isn't going to fix anything. If it worked it would have worked decades ago.

Let's just hope the conservatives declaring war on the quality of life for the poor, as they are almost certain to do, doesn't start a civil conflict.
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>>7194
I'll forgive your forceful but pleb grasp of economics and history; you're emotional from your loss. How is it that you figure I was superscribing neoliberalism from my commentary? It's well known that Chavez was more of a populist neopatrimonial dictator than a socialist. Venezuela and the legacy of Bolivar were tarnished by his plundering of the state for his personal, narcissistic delight. The poor in Venezuela are his greatest victims. They had been reduced to a humiliating role as soldiers in his personal clown army. Now that they're liberated they can begin to recover from their trauma and look forward to the dignity of work and earned wages in the near future.
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>>7147
>took one of the best countries in the world and nearly turned it into one of the worst.

Uhh by what measure was Venezuela one of the best countries in the world?

It had the highest rate of inequality in the world, 40% of it's population didn't even have access to clean drinking water, the economy was a complete and utter basketcase with record inflation and a Government that literally massacred thousands of protesters in the streets.
All wealth was centered into innercity Caracas and nowhere else.

>Are you the same idiot that was just saying import substitution industrialization has ever worked?

It worked for the majority of the western world, it worked for South Korea.

South Korea didn't even have open markets till the fucking 1990s.

Either way following Venezuelan news today, apparently goods are flooding back onto shelves despite the Opposition don't even have Government, it's like the entire time there was fucking Hording of goods to sabotage the Government by business.
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>>7300
>dictator

And yet the opposition win elections.
Also it was in 2002 the opposition that actually put in power a dictatorship and suspended the constitution.
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>>7300
>The poor in Venezuela are his greatest victims.

Damn Chavez for implementing the quisted reduction in severe poverty in Latin American history, those poor serfs, getting houses and jobs and drinking water and affordable food.
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>>7348
Venezuela was ranked near the top of quality of life and PPP indexes for decades, South Korea modernize with exports, and wealth is concentrated in cities everywhere (even DPRK).

It's good to hear suppliers now trust the government enough to put their goods back in the stores. Individual property rights positively correlate with development universally.

I'm glad to hear that the virtuous cycle of capitalism has already manifest.
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>>7349
>And yet the opposition win elections
The strongman is dead and like the black father that he was, he left the revolution to his parrot. And, stop pretending constitutions matter in LA.
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>>7351
>reduction in severe poverty in Latin American history, those poor serfs, getting houses and jobs and drinking water and affordable food.
The rising tide of global capitalism lifts all boats.

You even put your finger on the greatest tragedy of Chavez regime. His social programs created dependents, his politics purged competent competition. He had a windfall of oil rents and he bought sugar and caviar when he should have been buying meat and vegetables. Forget internationally, his domestic economy was a dog and pony show with no diversity, and no attempt to hide that it was a government house of cards built on high oil prices.
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>>7353
So you admit that Capitalists purposely sabotaged the economy to destroy the Government. Great "Freedom" for the poor who can't afford goods and rely on cheaper fixed prices. (Which capitalists were compensated for, but instead horded goods and smuggled then to surrounding countries)

>Venezuela was ranked near the top of quality of life and PPP indexes for decades

pffffft Venezuela had among the highest wealth inequality in all of Latin America, it had some of the highest rates of poverty, over 40% of the population didn't have access to clean drinking water or amenities.

>South Korea modernize with exports

South Korea had (and largely still has) a planned economy developed through consultation of Chaebols and the Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy, South Korea literally has 5 year economic plans.

>>7359
>The rising tide of global capitalism lifts all boats.

Pfft, both the WTO and the IMF data showed inequality and poverty sharply rising in the developing world until they decided to just flip their modelling samples and equations to say that global inequality and poverty is shrinking.

Also Venezuela can never become an export heavy country simply because it's a developing nation with resources. If you knew economics you would know of the "curse of resources" for any developing nation, where the entire nation is sabotaged by outside interests meddling with the nation to cause rampant corruption and never allow that country to diversify their economy into other exports because that nation would have then more bargaining power with Oil rates.

Chavez was in power for what, a decade? Venezuela hasn't produced anything or anyone of worth for over half a century.
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>>7194
>the only options in south america are fascism or neoliberalism

nice to see you drank the kool-aid pibe.

>>7351
Yes, as the country is not only the smallest growing economy in SA but also the only nation in the entire continent that's actually in negative growth
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Venezuelanfag here, i'm willing to answer any question about my country and how is to live here from The perspective of a 18yo who is going to study medicine but does not know if he is going to survive before finishing his studies. There you have a little bit of what most of The people at my age is thinking due to our goverment system wich is not more than a group of monkies, seals and drug dealers.
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