https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWlUgI4cB4M
Trump is going to get elected, isn't he? He's really going to be our next President, isn't he?
>>29085
early polls favor the dems:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/pres_general/
just saying... (ducks)
>>29087
It's easier when you've made a pact with el diablo to be successful.
>>29087
their poll for michigan also said Hillary would win by a landslide.
I think this is going to be an election where polls and political pundits can't predict shit. Everything and everyone has gone insane this year, and at the very least, it's entertaining.
>>29124
None of the polls will matter once Trump anally rapes Clinton on stage for the live debate
>>29128
I'm wondering when the dnc is going to wise up to that. I mean sanders doesn't even attack her. He just points out her lying a few times and the polls start swinging his way. Trump will destroy her. And his only political background are the bribes he paid to public officials and I'm sure no one wants that to come up
>>29085
>Trump is going to get elected, isn't he? He's really going to be our next President, isn't he?
The only thing we can say for sure is it certainly isn't going to be Bernie Sanders
>>29128
>Implying Trump isn't Hilary's pet sent to disrupt the Republican Party
I voted for D.Ump in the primary (registered independent) but have no intention of voting for him in the general. Will vote for Billary or Slanders. Don't care. Fuck the data. Want Trump to destroy the GOP with his idiocy. He's already falling apart. No way he can survive a debate with Billary.
>>29124
>Everything and everyone has gone insane this year, and at the very least, it's entertaining.
Yeah, real entertaining, watching politics become a fourth-rate reality show thanks to a man wholly unqualified to lead this country doing everything he can to tear it apart as a way of feeding his ego. Fuckin' laugh riot, amirite?
>>29135
So you would vote for a murderer and a socialist who will enslave.
>>29148
>a socialist who will enslave
[citation needed]
>>29085
It's too early to say, but it isn't likely. He might get the nomination, but the chances of enough independents going his way rather than Hillary's is questionable.
He does a very good job of appealing to his core audience, but he needs to get more of the moderate vote to win.
I really like Hillary is going to win. I also think there is a real chance that despite Trump deserving the Republican nomination, they'll pull a fast one and put someone else in - which would absolutely destroy the Republican party,
>>29130
I seriously do think that open debates between Trump and Hillary are going to ignite some heinous violence from the more extreme party supporters. We've seen pretty much the extent of Trump's corps of Republican supporters, but the Democrats' will start presenting themselves as more counter-Republican, more vocally contradictory to Trump's bluster.
Sanders has lost the nomination by this point; Trump is either going to win it by contest or sudden majority. Nothing good will come of the impending general race.
>>29151
I really think*
(I actually don't like)
>>29152
>I seriously do think that open debates between Trump and Hillary are going to ignite some heinous violence from the more extreme party supporters.
I can't wait for this.
>>29146
>>doing everything he can to tear it apart as a way of feeding his ego
If anything, it shows how laughably intransigent and superficial the American political system has become.
>>29156
And how the GOP set the stage for this bullshit.
>>29155
You're actually eager to see Americans kill each other because of Trump?
What the fuck.
>>29156
But doesn't Trump make good points, Anon?!
>>29160
It'll only be the kind I hate: niggers, SJWs, white trash, hippies, etc.
I'll get comfy with some tea and a blanket and watch the world burn on TV
>>29163
Well aren't you just a sociopath with a hateboner.
Never breed, you eventual rapist.
>>29158
It's not just the GOP to blame for the current state of affairs. Both parties share some measure of contributing to the antipathy and dissatisfaction felt by their supporters, who have visibly grown more weary with at least the past thirty years of politics. I would say this bullshit started with the sequence of Reagan-Bush-Clinton,/ each leaving an increasing pool of people pissed off at the party they oppose, but you can't discount what the GOP really became after 9/11 and Bush Jr., nor the strongly diametrically opposing position the Democrats took during Bush's tenure in the previous decade.
This shitheel of an election cycle is either going to be a fluke, or the defining precedent for the next one four years from now.
>>29149
>[citation needed]
Socialism - a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Example U.S.S.R. Collapse. The Soviet Union had grown to a size large enough to the point where it became cumbersome to continue state planning. The massive and intricate Soviet economy became too large to manage by state planners, who were unwilling to enable more autonomy at mid-managerial level to remain responsive down to a localized level. This resulted in failed economic policies (failure to respond timely to continuous changes), while thwarting innovation. Managers commonly fudged numbers to show that quotas and goals were being met.
>>29173
And you have proof that Bernie subscribes to a pure socialism theory?
>>29085
although the race has started very early this year, it's still pretty long race a head of us. (considering the parties haven't even chosen a candidate yet) to concede in lieu of media attention is somewhat a cop-out.
yet to ask this question here of all places and expect to get an educated response, that's the true loss
>>29177
>>that's the true loss
It's funny you should think this place warrants a sense of loss.
We're looking ahead to the general already. For candidates to concede at this stage is unsurprising, even if the frontrunner doesn't win a majority of delegates and the race has to go contested.
>>29146
it certainly is if you don't live in the US :^)
>>29174
No and I wound say that I do and in all honesty Socialism works ON PAPER but human error is never calculated.
>>29181
The general attitude that OP displays is apathy, and there's isn't much we can do with people whom have given up on themselves and the systems that run their environments.
>He's really going to be our next President, isn't he?
If you don't want him to be president then get off your ass and contribute your time or money to the cause; whomever you may support.
>>29174
Also I just don't want to vote for a well - proven failed economic system in any form.
http://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-failed/
>>29163
Edgy af f a m
>partisian bullshit
Anyone that thinks one party is less shitty than another is either underage or a shill
>>29085
I never understand how people actually think its trendy and progressive to hate on someone who actually wants to put his nation's interest before others.
>trump is racist meme
Against whom? Muslims are not a race. He wants to unite all americans no matter race. It seems like you are the idiot if you dont know why trump is racist but he clearly isn't.
Im so tired of this leftist trendy bullshit. There is nothing wrong with being a white supremacist, if you're not white be a black or whatever supremacist. Believe in your people and work to improve everyone's opinion of them, why is that a bad thing?
I wish we could get a based leader who doesn't csre about being pc and just cares about his own people.
"The most precious possession you have in this world,is your own people"
>>29239
>There is nothing wrong with being a white supremacist
Other than the fact that you think you're superior to everyone who isn't racially "white" because of the amount of melanin of your skin and that those "inferior" to you don't deserve the same set of civil rights and legal privileges that you have.
>>29240
No. Believing that you are superior without denying others basic respect and rights. It doesn't mean you go around lynching non-whites.
>melanin in your skin
Are you really thay naive? So the fact that every single majority white nation is way more advance, peaceful and prosperous than majority anything non-white is just coincidence?
Africa is thousands of years behind the rest of the world. Coincidence?
Time to wake up goy.
>>29241
>Believing that you are superior without denying others basic respect and rights. It doesn't mean you go around lynching non-whites.
Yeah, and when the average white supremacist agrees with you, I'll be more inclined to do the same.
>the fact that every single majority white nation is way more advance, peaceful and prosperous than majority anything non-white is just coincidence?
Yes. You're the one trying to imply that anyone who isn't "white" is basically an animal.
>>29242
Lol. Keep living with your head in the sand. Its blatantly obvious, but i guess facts are racist to you.
Even if you're not white you should have pride in yourself and your people. You will be better off if you do.
All races are not created equal, that is not to say race x cannot be as cultured as race y. But the vast majority will succumb to certain generalisations.
Ignoring the obvious doesn't make you a good person, it just makes you a child.
>>29244
>Even if you're not white you should have pride in yourself and your people.
Why? Why the fuck should I feel proud about the color of my skin or the luck of being born in America? What the fuck did I do to earn those things? I link pride to accomplishment - I can be proud of writing a book or running a race, not having a certain skin tone by virtue of my parents' genetics.
>Ignoring the obvious doesn't make you a good person
Saying you're superior to another human being based only on the color of your skin doesn't, either.
>>29247
Both of those points are more than just skin color. Your skin color represents your history, your culture. It means having pride in them.
Im not the one trying to be pc by ignoring the obvious.
>>29254
I can take pride in learning and knowing my roots. That doesn't mean I have to take pride in my history and culture.
And it doesn't mean I have to take pride in my skin color, either. That shit isn't an accomplishment, it is an accident of genetics.
>>29174
>le no true socialist faec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp-r68mo8k
fuck off
>>29259
>25 year old videos
Fuck off
>>29275
I don't care about Bernie fuck him i care about a functioning economy and socialism can not be properly calculated. It doesn't work why do you think European nations using the system are falling since basically the 90' s, and nations using partial are growing very slowly.
https://mises.org/library/end-socialism-and-calculation-debate-revisited
>>29277
What is it that makes you think European nations are failing when they are leaving the US in the dust in almost every national ranking except manufacturing output. (inb4 you think economic output is the sole measure of success)
>The End of Socialism and the Calculation Debate Revisited
>By Murry N. Rothbard
>2006 (right before the bubble collapsed)
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Thanks for the laugh kid, I need that.
>>29085
Only in America does shit like this happen.
I don't like either of them, but I know Trump will destroy the nation's ties with overseas and destroy America itself.
I've said it before and I will say it again.
Trump's No 1. Priority is Trump.
Always has been, always will be.
>>29279
1. The bubble.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/13/housing-bubble-subprime-opinions-contributors_0216_peter_wallison_edward_pinto.html
2. Actually we are faring far better then the European nations right now it is the Far East who is pulling far ahead of everyone else.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11133701/World-university-rankings-show-power-shift-from-US-and-UK-towards-Far-East.html
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2015/10/23/japan-pulls-ahead-of-china-in-bid-for-indian-rail-deal/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/05/07/rest-in-peace-chinese-communism-government-getting-out-of-the-way/#ddc8f5d6ec20
EVERYONE IS MOVING TO GLOBAL CAPITALISM
>>29282
I mean, thanks for the links, but you're responding to a troll.
>>29285
Oh I'm not trolling, I just think it's hilarious that all these counterculture conservatives worship Rothbard nowadays. I can't wait for the pendelum to swing back the other way is all...
>>29287
You're not baiting, you just want to incite responses by expressing a viewpoint in an inflammatory fashion. I get it.
>>29287
Actually I'm an independent and pledge an elegance to no party this will be my first and only time i will ever side with a party.
>>29285
I know I just like to have fun they give me a challenge to refresh old knowledge. Plus I haven't been on the board in about 10yrs. and i like fucking around and quickly finding all my trolls and seeing if the can keep a quick and responsive debate.
>>29289
No I'm expressing my honest opinion and the fact that you and others find it to be inflammatory is simply a hilarious side effect.
>>29297
Well at least you're genuinely retarded and not merely pretending.
>>29302
In the kingdom of the lobotomized, the simply retarded guy is king.
>>29085
>*slap*
>"and that's how trump supporters respond to critics"
>*guy charges stage to attack trump*
>"..."
>>29295
>10 years in a board made recently
Hoo hoo! You sure do know how to get those trolls. But go ahead retract and fix that.
0/10
>>29312
Now your being a grammer nazi
>>29312
So i missed a s in boards
>>29146
This.
The entire election has been a glorified reality show. You may as well have put all candidates in a big brother house.
>>29173
Anything payed for through taxes is socialism.
Public Libraries are socialism.
Public Schools are socialism.
Public Roads are socialism
Public law enforcement is socialism.
A national army is socialism.
They take your money, and they use it to pay for things other people use, things that the government owns and regulates and provides for the community benefit.
Not all socialism is bad.
>>29146
Absolutely. He's abusing every single glaring loophole and fallacy the system had.
At worst, everyone will now go scrambling to fix these loopholes to prevent it from ever happening again.
Heck, maybe the US will get respectable and useful news channels again. I'd be willing to put up with a mere 4 years of trumpresidency for that.
>>29163
they'll come for you when the looting starts.
>>29191
I am an outsider to american politics, but Bernie sanders keeps citing scandinavian democratic socialism as the basis for his political inclinations.
And, im sorry to break it to you, but democratic socialism has done wonders over here.
t. one of the biggest economies in the world per capita.
>>29445
Literally everyone of those things would be be better if privatized.
>>29639
some things the government should do. Like the roads, but I just don't think that the privatization of roads would be popular
Maybe.
But if he does, remember: it's the Demos and Libtards fault. They NEVER vote, and then they complain about shit when the other guy gets elected.
They're also obnoxious moralfags who don't know how to play dirty.
Honestly, I'm amazed Obama got elected twice, considering the fickle nature of his voter base.
>>29130
>I mean sanders doesn't even attack her
and it confuses you right? I mean, him deconstructing her propaganda is not enough, you need that extra kick, you need the fireworks right?
>>29445
1. Public Libraries are a thing of the past thanks to your PC.
2. Public Education system is ranked 14 in the world and dropping.
3. Public Roads are in poor shape.
4. Public Law Enforcement is attacked on a daily basis.
5. WORST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.
Oh yeah Socialism is doing wonderfully for the U.S.A.
>>29652
Someone needs to be insulted every 10 seconds or my brain no work.
CUNT.
>>29676
>thanks to your PC
kek, no, thanks to budget cuts, nice reality grasp there, I 'd tell you to go back to /tg/, but I respect those people because they deliver so the pun wouldn't work
>system is ranked 14 in the world and dropping
budget cuts again (which is also central planning) and constant slandering from the media in unison.
>Public Roads are in poor shape
and I 'm sure the very first priority that's in Trump's mind, from the moment he wakes up to standing in front of audiences all over the u.s., is infrastructure.
>Public Law Enforcement is attacked on a daily basis
and on good fucking reason. You want to carry a gun and play judge dredd? public outcry comes with the job, grow up.
>WORST MILITARY IN THE WORLD
unfortunately, not true.
>>29652
>deconstructing
That word may not mean what you think it means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction
>>29683
no, it means what I think it means, because I know what it means
>>29642
that's what france has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QixlLU15CIc
>>29652
Of note,he's also the only candidate with no "pants on fire" quotes on politifacts. So, not stooping to mudslinging nor telling boldfaced lies, maybe he's not trying to throw it, maybe he's just trying to run an honest, respectable campaign based on the issues?
A little "mister smith goes to washington" of him, sure, but consistent with his personality and campaign's stated goals. Its certainly plausible.
Still not a particularly effective tactic though. Even if he somehow beats Hillary, you can't run on the issues with Trump as your competition.
>>29676
Our public schooling is 14th in the world and you think we shouldn't have public college education to help us get back to internationally competing levels?
What kind of backwards logic is that?
>>29676
>WORST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.
Nigga, we have like 40 something companies borrowing our army cause they can't make their own, and our might has kept the world in relative stability for decades.
Just because we can't hunt down some measly guerrilla fighters in an urban desert environment where the locals side with them, in the middle of durkadurka-stan doesn't mean we couldn't completely wreck any COUNTRY-sized opponent that got too uppity for its britches.
The only reason it took so long is that tier of gang-war level violence isn't something our military should be dealing with in the first place. That's police scale business. Give us an invading army, instead of something that spends 98% of its time pretending to be a harmless civilian and we'll level it.
>>29726
*40 something countries
dangit autocorrect, you messed up a perfectly good nationalist rant.
>>29087
>just saying... (ducks)
Get the fuck out you youtuber faggot
>>29447
>donald trump
>one term president
How retarded are you people that you think Barack "the eternal recession" Obama got re-elected despite doing fuckall but Trump wouldn't get re-elected after creating a jobs boom, which is what his policies will do?
>>29644
This post is completely ass-backwards
How is the party which specifically wants amnesty to create a one party state in America "moral and unable to fight dirty"?
>>29281
>not letting foreigners screw the working class will destroy America
>we need to vote for a candidate like hillary who will continue to outsource jobs otherwise the chinese will be angry at us
How fucking retarded are you
>>29132
>implying anyone who supports Trump gives a shit about the Republican party
>>29151
>"independent" means easily offended middle class white people
He's going to win because the Northern working class, which has traditionally been Democratic, will swing for Trump resulting in him winning most states in the Rust Belt.
>>29165
Go back to red dit
>>29798
>after creating a jobs boom, which is what his policies will do?
What's this crystal ball you've got? Where do I buy one? How much do they cost?
>>29827
They cost one Trump vote.
>>29085
Trump would destroy Hillary beyond measure.
>>29200
>edgy
>af
>f a m
So much cancer in one post. Very impressive, anon.
>>29799
Have you failed to notice all the SJWs trying cram their beliefs down everybody's throats lately or what?
The number one thing that /pol/ and Trump supporters don't realize is that if Trump indeed becomes a despot, they won't get to be the Gestapo they always wanted to be. They'll be lined up against the wall and shot once they realize that they're not going to be wearing the boot and become disillusioned.
The first people killed by any despot are ALWAYS THE ONES WHO BROUGHT THEM TO POWER. Fucking useful idiots.
>>29722
Public colleges will only further devalue degrees. I also ain't paying for somebody's art degree/women studies bullshit
>>30119
>he unironically believes trump is a fascist
>>30122
One question who builds the schools for the people to get free education as well as upkeep them? Answer: The trades. You know what stops people from going to a trade school free college education. That in turn stops building so what school are you going to go to for free.
>>29242
Holy shit dude are you even reading what he is saying. Believe it or not it is possible to be proud of your race/heritage without looking down upon other racial or cultural backgrounds.
>>29255
I'm not the anon you've been arguing with, but I'm pretty sure you just agreed with his point. You've been arguing over whether or not it's right to take pride in the history of your culture. It seems that you have focused in so hard on skin color that you've been blinded to the rest of the valid points the other anon has been making.
>>30119
>liberals are still using le facist boogeyman to try and attack Trump
>>30119
>Comparing Trump to Hitler
>unironically believing Trump's a fascist
>Using Nazism as an argument
Tell me, how does it feel to be denser than osmium?
>>30122
Art is a necessary facet of modern business. Logos, packaging, advertisements, Graphic Design is still a very relevant and useful field. And, having attempted to minor in it, I can tell you, requires a lot more work than it's typically characterized for. Everything it lacks in study, it makes up for in hours spent working on projects. The final month of that last semester I was getting maybe 30-40 hours of sleep a week, spending the rest of it nonstop creating and tweaking and polishing.
Gender Studies? Yeah, honestly should never have become a degree in the first place, same as all the Race-of-the-Week Studies, philosophy, and frankly, history. It's not a job, it does not prepare you for a job, it does not create jobs. At best they are tools to be used in other disciplines, or subject matter to be looked at through the context of other, real disciplines. History as it applies to law. History as it applies to military strategy. Gender relations and equality as pertains to marketing, or sociology. Philosophy as it pertains to literature.
To treat them as their own purview is circlewankery of most egregious proportions.
Also, just being pedantic, there are already public colleges in the US, and in fact, most are. The point being debated is of student tuition becoming publicly funded, not just the University itself, much like is currently done through the Federal Pell Grant, just without the low income required restriction, because supposedly prices have increased so substantially that just about nobody can attend college on their own dime in the US anymore without accruing future-crippling debt, not just the dirt poor.
>>30269
most people I know who are are comparing hitler and trump are talking about their methods to rise to power, not their actual goals/intent for that power.
>>29132
>Being this fucking retarted
Trump will make America great again!
I will certainly be voting for him in November, he already won my state in the primaries :)
>>30288
Yes all those trumpstaffels beating up Democrats and those failed coup d Etats.
>inb4 scapegoating
He doesnt scape-goat, he just shit talks illrgals and jihadists backed up with facts.
Hitler behaved very diffently in his rise, being all work no fun contrary to trump.
If anything the people that stormed trumps rallies remind me more of the SA.
If the people who went to protest trump rallies actually got out to vote they'd make an actual impact.
>>29128
Oh no he's going to make silly faces and yell really loud.
>>30518
explain how. What part of america isnt great right now that he would change. im talking about specific policy.
>>30133
In what way does free tuition prevent people from leaning a trade? They'll be able to do it for free
>>30247
Not that guy but it's /pol/ we're talking about. That anon is right on doubting that affirmation by precedent.
