They closed down one of the loud-mouth's big speeches. That's too bad.
The news itself:
http://abc7chicago.com/politics/donald-trump-cancels-uic-rally/1241331/
Careful Leftists - this newssite is Breitbart!:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/11/trump-country-so-divided-we-have-to-bring-jobs-back-people-saying-chicago-violence-helps-me-in-polls/
Mexico chimes in:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/video-mexican-protesters-in-masks-cheer-outside-canceled-trump-rally/
>>28039
This'd had never happened if the US government acted more like China
>>28053
If the cost of a free nation is 1 less hackneyed Trump speech, I say we pay that price.
>>28053
Go suck George W. Bush's dick, you Patriot Act-loving fuckboi.
>>28039
So you fight fascism with fascism? And you beat the shit out of other people while saying it's justified because they're the dangerously hateful ones?
And then you Americans wonder why everyone calls you the fat, retarded spawn of incest.
>>28063
Whiter than a slice of bread, actually.
>>28058
> fat, retarded spawn of incest.
New one. Very creative.
>>28039
It's funny to me that you mention Breitbart in your post, considering what happened in Chicago tonight has pushed questioning Trump about his campaign manager's interaction with a Breitbart reporter to the furthest corner of every major media figures' minds.
It's also funny that Trump and his supporters--including Hannity and Kelly, considering their takes on Chicago--are calling this a violation of free speech, when the man has spent the last four hours speaking to major news networks, and can do so any time he wishes.
>>28077
And that Trump cancelled the rally himself. And that the government didn't shut him down.
Idiots.
>>28083
>>blatant violence, rioting, and hypocrisy by the protesters.
I criticized the free speech argument. I said nothing about the protesters' actions, because I don't agree with them either. Everybody involved shat the bed on this one. Everybody. The fact that a protest, as well as the challenge to the protest by opponents, reached the level that it did is a terrible goddamn thing, but only cynical journalists lamenting about the death of politics on my Twitter feed are commenting on that.
>>28085
Yeah, I'm the OP of the "Trump has people willing to kill for him" thread, and even I can't defend that shit. Of course, there's something to be said about the idea that Trump's campaign up to this point made this shit an inevitability.
>>28088
> Trump's campaign up to this point made this shit an inevitability.
BLM came first before Trump's popularity, though.
>>28106
There is no real leader of BLM, and the generally accepted "voices" of BLM haven't explicitly called for acts of violence and destruction.
>>28083
How does one become president when the largest Citys of america woud rather riot than let the man govern them.
if he actually knows whats good for the ccountry, he will resign.
>>28112
>thinking Chicago's black population matters at all
Trump canceled the rally after most people were already there. The fact that he's denouncing violence on tv but encourages it at his rallies, and his supporters either don't realize or don't care astounds me. Could all of this have been handled a bit better, yes, but I'm not surprised it happened when there's a history of violence against protesters at Trump events.
Trump's people knew this was going to happen and that's why they scheduled a rally in one of the most liberal neighborhoods in downtown Chicago.
They could have booked this for some Chicago suburb where there is a majority of white people and Trump supporters, but they wanted to get footage of liberals attacking Trump supporters. It kind of backfired on them considering how all the cable news has shown is Trump supporters beating the shit out of protesters and ripping their signs out of their hands.
>>28039
Oh no, Trump's rally got shut down and all he got was wall-to-wall live coverage and call ins to every major network in prime time, plus another dominated news cycle.
This is it lads, we're finished.
>>28122
That's not what happened on the news I watched.
I think I saw the black guy ripping the American flag out of that one guy's hands at least a dozen times, and I saw a huge communist flag on CNN at one point, as well as a cop bleeding from his scalp.
>>28121
You. Don't. Have. A. Right. To. Protest. In. Private. Events.
I wish the liberals took a law 101 class. Him renting his venues gives him the right to kick out absolutely anyone for any reason he comes up with. Him not choosing to do more to the protestors which having been at prior rallies are anyrhing but 'peaceful' protesters just speaks to the guys character.
I started out as just an observer not allignedbw/ him and wore that plainly. There never were problems w/ those of us like that. Hell I talked to the guy wearing an opponents gear and we had some banter.
Again. You. Don't. Have. A. Right. To. Protest. In. Private. Events.
>>28128
>>Him not choosing to do more to the protestors which having been at prior rallies are anyrhing but 'peaceful' protesters just speaks to the guys character.
At most he can kick them out to thunderous applause. He can't order them arrested or otherwise detained, that's for law enforcement to decide. Trump is well aware of the fact that he doesn't have to do much more than stand at the podium and comment as protestors are led out by security, since his supporters will act on his expressions. And they have, repeatedly, but tonight was the first time that frustration boiled over into actual physical violence because of the presence of the protesting crowd, and the reaction from his supporters after the event was canceled because of the protest.
If you want to talk about who's at fault for instigating the entire mess, ask why Trump decided to hold a major rally in a historically liberal location, and the likelihood of a significant protest occurring because of the social and political culture relative to that location.
>>28128
>YOU GUYS WEREN'T INVITEEEEEED BAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW
>>28132
That is how it works. We can't wait to deal with anyone who they were able to lock up on monday and hear the 'peaceful protest' defense as all of us and the court clerk have a giggle.
>>28132
Well...yes. That's pretty much exactly how that works. People have the right to protest at public venues, but not private events; they have to be invited into the private space, and maintain that invitation on pain of possible ejection by the host.
The protestors in Chicago, and I say this completely unapologetically, trumped that by sheer physical presence. Then two opposing crowds met and began expressing their differing frustrations, and you know how the rest goes.
>>28133
>>We can't wait to deal with anyone
>>all of us and the court clerk have a giggle
Why aren't you in your /k/ontainment board?
>>28135
I don't know what /k/ has to do with me. We just have a field day everytime BLM protests here. We are so sick and tired of having to see them in the court room.
This could have hurt Trump's campaign, but the protesters fucked up. Got too greedy.
Blocking ambulances, stomping on American flags, firing Uzis into the air.
https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/708525579600064512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_wNGite3c
Trump's gonna sweep come Tuesday.
>>28139
They're the most unsympathetic aggressors you can possibly find in the entire country. Literally nobody outside their circular firing squad likes these people, and 90% of voters will be rightfully pissed the fuck off by this garbage, because it never fucking ends anymore, and everyone is supposed to beg and scrape for these worthless thugs, but oh lo and behold a guy who's 2 steps away from winning the presidency completely opposes shit like this.
If this doesn't give Trump a landslide victory on Tuesday I would be shocked.
>>28140
The greater ramifications of this that every argument that Trump condones violence, or that he's an aggressor, got completely fucked from this one event.
The left can't throw stones when they've incited more violence than Trump ever has. By him washing his hands of the event and not instigating, these people look like maniacs.
I'm not going to do a damn thing. There's no possible way the left in this country can make this look good. You all ruined it for yourselves and Trump was made to look like an innocent good guy for once (I cancelled because I didn't want to see people get hurt).
>>28126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmYWibI6fww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be7qg1SOjZ8
>>28128
People do have the right for peaceful assembly, whether it's Trump or BLM.
Both groups don't adhere to that 'peaceful' ideal, however and eventually were going to butt heads.
>>28150
You know how many Trump supporters have been arrested over violence?
1
I'll let you know how many of the 'peaceful protestors' walk into court for bond hearing monday.
Spoiler! [this number will trump Trumps']
>>28150
Don't act like you can paint Trump and the people intending to see him as being as bad as the protesters.
Not once have Trump supporters banded together to prevent an ambulance from moving.
Or fired Uzis into the air.
Or stepped on flags.
Neither have they purposefully gone out to shut down other rallies. Have Trump supporters prevented Hillary or Bernie from talking?
This was not a peaceful protest. It was a bunch of criminals trying to shut up someone they disagreed with.
>>28054
And if the cost of a free nation is to kick terrorist asses like yourself out then I say we take that chance.
Obama never got this kind of heat from racists ever.
http://i.imgur.com/B669irx.jpg
Lovely.
>>28039
Libs actually in agreement with this black violence. Fuckin pathetic
>>28175
It's because most of the violence came from pro-Trump people.
>>28155
It's where everything bad is, if you noticed...
>>28058
Trump isn't a fascist.
>>28065
>whiter than a slice of bread
>bread is dark brown
?????
>>28132
Yeah try crashing the oscars bro see what happens
>basically giving Trump the nomination on a silver platter
gg based retards
>>28186
top kek, what great spin ITT
In reality this happend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJEd2fV-ag
Marco Rubio is denouncing "Trumps violent rhetoric' on CNN right now.
>>28189
top kek to you too sir.
There's video evidence of people blocking ambulances and BLM protesters firing Uzis, and anyone condemning the violence while completely ignoring that Chicago has a higher than national average homicide rate looks like an arselicker that only cares about it when its about their rival.
>>28154
>>Obama never got this kind of heat from racists ever.
...this is bait, right?
>>28193
For every cherry piked example of "BLM members blocking amblulances" I can find 2 examples of Trump supporters hitting black people unprovoked.
What's truly hilarious is that Trump is trying to spin this like the BLM people were violent when it's a movement based on MLK and Ghandi's teachings. Oh and also the fact that there is mountains of video evidence showing people in trump shirts ripping the signs out of black hands and hitting them with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRvOmB62YVM
>>28039
>What are Trump-lovers going to do now?
Whine about the scary black people at the rallies and pretend like they dindu nuffin.
Did you miss the Bernie sanders supporter (anti violence campaigner Jedidiah brown) punching a white man?
Or how about anti trump campaigners assaulting people expressing a political opinion, Threatening to rape women, Firing guns into the air and assaulting police..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GepGO6HqL3o
>>28201
We have proof of dem plants in the crowd that go as high as one of their fundraisers and them claimimng responsibility for the ones who orchastrated the event. Chanting Bernie while wearing Trump gear?
Don't play stupid liberal. Only Trump can walk out of this well we'll see how the next 4 days play out.
>>28209
lel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAwidSf3-8
>>28210
Good luck with your "proof", kid.
Meanwhile, in the real world:
>White supremacist groups see Trump bump
>'He has sparked an insurgency,' Stormfront founder says.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/donald-trump-white-supremacists-216620
>>28216
If you don't know the difference between the actual journalists at Politico and the clickbait merchants at Glenn Beck's TheBlaze then you have much to learn.
Compare and contrast:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBlaze
with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politico
>>28216
Meme magick won't be enough.
As a Democratic supporter I am delighted. He can't win an election without black and hispanic votes.
Trump is the greatest Trojan horse since Troy. Down goes the republicans in flames.
Fingers crossed he gets the nomination. Once the candidates are confirmed the Dems can start hitting him on the rape allegation from his ex-wife, as well as his other skeletons.
>>28183
>what is crust-less sliced bread
>>28238
Yes, literally what is that? Is that a thing in the US?
>>28128
And you don't have the right to tell your followers to assault people you don't like, calling them unamerican for defending their ideals (the fucking irony) and then shrug your shoulders when the water gets too hot and say you "don't wan anybody hurt" the same day you said some people deserve beatings.
The protestors obviously went the wrong way about it. This kind of of angry shot flinging does nothing to convert people to your side and only deepens trenches between people. But that's still not a justification for the way Trump has implicitly encouraged people to act this way. He's shown himself to be a hypocrite and a potentially dangerous leader now. He's more bent on dividing the country than uniting it
>>28235
>the clintons attacking anyone with rape charges
You're so blinded you must have cataracts.
>>28053
This had had never
>>28245
>Implying you need to do it directly.
Babbies first politics?
>newssite is Breitbart
oxymoron
>>28128
>You. Don't. Have. A. Right. To. Protest. In. Private. Events.
The First Amendment guarantees the right to freely assemble and freely speak. A political protest is an exercise in both of those rights. If I am allowed to attend a political rally, I have every right to speak my mind and protest the political figure leading said rally. It might upset the status quo ("disturb the peace"), and I can be yanked out of the arena for that, but that isn't an abridgement of my 1A rights because I am being escorted out for "disturbing the peace".
And yes, "peaceful" protests can contain obscene language and displays of anger or resentment. The "peaceful" portion of "peaceful protest" refers to the lack of violence from such protests. The Westboro Baptist Church carries around "God Hates Fags" signs and shittalks dead soldiers, and a not-zero number of people would call their messages "obscene", but WBC members don't commit acts of violence during their protests, so the WBC's protests are peaceful in spite of being obnoxious as fuck. You can yell "FUCK TRUMP" and flip the middle finger but still be considered "peaceful" if you're not tossing punches.
We're all supposed to be better than the base-level "provocation" bullshit. We're supposed to brush that dirt off our shoulders. If you're pissed because Trump supporters are willing to toss punches at people protesting Trump, get pissed at them for "falling for the bait", as it were. (Then get pissed at Trump for implicitly supporting violence performed in his name.)
>>28256
Not the guy you're responding to, but they started using Free Speech Zones regularly to curtail protesters while Bush was running for president in 2000.
>>28246
>This would had never
>>28235
lmao so liberals still believe he has no black or Hispanics support? You retards really have given him this election.
>>28272
He doesn't have enough to win the national election, no.
>>28272
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-rubio-idUSMTZSAPEC3BVHW7JA
>Conservative Hispanic activists fear a win by Republican frontrunner Donald Trump in Florida's presidential nominating contest next week will deal a major setback to efforts to widen the party's appeal beyond white voters, potentially dooming hopes of retaking the White House from Democrats in 2016.
>Some of the activists said in interviews they feared a Trump win could prompt many Latino Republicans, angry at his anti-immigrant rhetoric, to stay home on Nov. 8, Election Day, or worse, support the Democratic nominee.
>"Sadly, the damage is going to be felt by the Republican Party for years," said Javier Palomarez, president and CEO of the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, of a possible Trump win in Florida on March 15.
>"This is a turning point," he said.
>Trump has dominated opinion polls and early nominating contests, in large part because of his pledge to build a wall along the border with Mexico; his labeling of Mexicans as criminals and rapists; and his accusations that immigrant workers steal American jobs.
>That kind of talk is well received by many white Republican voters, but not by minorities, polls show.
>That's a problem for the party, because while the American electorate has become more diverse in the last three years, Republican support among Hispanic likely voters has shrunk, from 30.6 percent in 2012 to 26 percent in 2015, according to an analysis of Reuters/Ipsos polling data. Meanwhile, Hispanic Democrats grew by 6 percentage points to 59.6 percent.
>>28273
Did you count them all...?!
>>28056
>fuccboi
>>28201
Ghandi was a guerilla fighter before he realized he'd get owned forever until he stopped using violence.
MLK has nothing to do with what they're doing.
Bad parallels to draw.
>>28293
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/01/dont-criticize-black-lives-matter-for-provoking-violence-the-civil-rights-movement-did-too/
>>28294
The difference between then and now is the firefighters gave the civil rights movement a full strength bath - the proper dousing the BLM needs today!
>>28294
You know, damn shame Lincoln opted for abolishment of slavery. Everywhere else in the 'western world' it simply died out over time. And would have here as well but instead we've carried this dead weight with us for over a 100 years. And even with that dead weight we still manage to be the worlds best cultural melting pot. It's really a weird thing.
>>28298
meaning no war right?
>>28300
Right. We're the only ones that had a war covered by race when it was really about tariffs and taxes.
>>28298
> You know, damn shame Lincoln [didn't send the Blacks all back to Africa]
FTFY.
Can any anon tell me the point of the protesting?
>Is it to stop others like minded people from viewing the speeches?
Cause they record them and post on youtube....
>Is it to voice your groups collective thoughts against this particular rally?
Don't go if you don't like it/ private party/Don't you have a candidate that you like? Why aren't you there?
>Is it to voice your personal opinion on who you want for POTUS?
Thought that's why we had voting days....
>self glory in a diluted illusion that you acting a fool at one place will make change happen that you want....
Sorry kiddo. That's not how the world works.
I don't support any of the current candidates but those polished turds are what we vote on, if you even vote. I don't understand why there is such a big fuss over this. Its not like it even matters. We are all fucked regardless of what happens with POTUS because the masses don't pays attention to all of the other times of the year when voting is important.
>>28303
Well it is implied since that was the other major option on the table.
>>28201
>trying to spin this like the BLM people were violent when it's a movement based on MLK and Ghandi's teachings
You are either legitimately retarded or a very advanced troll.
By that logic Trump supporters aren't violent either, seeing as his movement is based on the ideal of the founding fathers
>>28229
Meme magick gave him the nom.
have faith in kek
>>28323
lel
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-donald-trump-rally-analysis-20160312-snap-story.html
>After scuffles in Chicago, Trump tells supporters he can unite the country. It's a hard sell
>>28324
Meme magick failed for Ron.
This is different though.
>>28325
>an opinion piece doesn't believe his claims
>supposed to prove his claims
And I don't believe BLM are a non-violent group.
Does that make either of us right?
>>28327
Yes because one of you is a right wing extremist and the other is not.
>>28330
Nice pun I guess?
>>28306
>Can any anon tell me the point of the protesting?
There wasn't one.
Newspeople tried asking protesters what they were protesting about and no one could really answer. Not even an "against Trump" or anything.
>>28273
I see. A minority only matters when they fit the liberal agenda, otherwise they don't exist. I love this kind of hypocrisy. Exquisite.
>>28334
You keep blaming liberals when you should be blaming Reince Priebus.
>>28332
>Newspeople tried asking protesters what they were protesting about and no one could really answer. Not even an "against Trump" or anything.
http://www.wcnc.com/news/politics/elections/davidson-students-explain-why-they-joined-trump-protest/76509453
http://www.poynter.org/2016/cbs-journalist-arrested-in-chicago-amid-escalating-tensions-at-trump-rallies/401373/
>>28122
exactly. already shifted the blame. once again Trump comes out without a scratch, and today was back to taunting his protesters again, just without the "punch them in the face" part.
>>28342
Eh, he'll be back to calling for protestors to be assaulted (or worse) by this time next week.
Why do people protest?
Don't tell me because walls are racists.....or because he called all mexicans rapists and drug dealers, that never happened. I seen most of his rallies and never really hear anything that's actually racist. Protesters just pop up randomly with their literal race cards as protest signs. It makes me wonder if why they do it every time one pops up.
>>28349
Remember when Trump said he would never condone violence after those two guys in Boston assaulted and urinated on a homeless Mexican?
I can't believe everyone has had the wool pulled over their eyes about Trump and how full of shit he is.
>>28351
>because he called all mexicans rapists and drug dealers, that never happened
"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." - Donald Trump, 16 June 2015
>>28352
I personally condone violence, so I don't care if Trump condones it or not. IMO I would be happier if he really did make the secret service beat the shit out of protesters as they escort them out. They are a waste of oxygen and all they do is accuse walls of racism.
>>28353
Yea I hear that, and that's pretty much all that he's said. He's not even generalizing mexicans since he even included that he assumed some are good people.
If people are mad about this, they need to find a cure for stupid.
>>28354
So you would be 100% okay with armed security guards beating the shit out of someone for simply exercising their First Amendment rights? You'd be fine with the Secret Service rupturing the lung of an 18-year-old who holds up a "TRUMP SUCKS" sign at a Trump rally?
>>28355
>He's not even generalizing mexicans since he even included that he assumed some are good people.
Except that is, y'know, a generalization. "Most of you are rapists and drug dealers. Some of you? Exception to the rule."
>>28356
You do understand that they aren't supposed to be at the rally at all right? Do you know what a Free Speech Zone is?
>>28342
How did the bernardtards think this could possibly go any other way? They had no plan going into this. They came of as the uneducated, unpolished people they are. And he got millions of viewers that he wouldn't have otherwise.
Again held in part by the bernie camp and BLM. Of course this was going to fail. The kicker is bernie might come out the worst in this. Delicious.
>>28358
>they aren't supposed to be at the rally at all right?
Why? The Trump campaign can't know beforehand that everyone who requests an invitation to - or pays to get into - a Trump rally is there to protest him. If they gain legal entrance into the rally, they have every right to be there and to peacefully assemble with other anti-Trump protestors. Their potential disruption of a rally - "disturbing the peace" - is what would get them kicked out of the rally, not the mere fact that they're not in 100% total Nazi-saluting agreement with Fuhrer Trump.
>>28358
Also:
>Do you know what a Free Speech Zone is?
Yeah, it's a shitty tactic that started under the Bush administration to push protestors well out of the range of media and prevent political figures (specifically Dubya) from seeing direct protests to their authority and political positions.
>>28357
That's just the way you see it.
In the end, unchecked immigration does invite criminals over. That's why it's a good idea to have better border security. Mexico has a wall in its southern border, liberals don't cry over that. It's all hypocrisy and stupidity. They even deport people they catch that came from the southern countries.
>>28362
Yes, better border security would be good.
Pray tell, how do you expect to pay for it? And staff it? And make sure it's "security" instead of "gun-crazed hicks shooting people for fun and profit"? And run it 24/7, 365?
>>28357
>80 per cent of women coming through the border report they were raped during journey
>But our debt is in the trillions how will we pay for anything!
Zero understanding of how government debt works and the economy. I love the 1/10 of 1/4 of the top .0001 per cent speech.
>>28367
Even if you get the funding for it, how do you expect to staff it with people who will actually be security guards instead of murderers with badges - and how do you expect to run it 24/7, 365, across the entire Mexican/American border?
>>28364
A wall makes it much easier since you don't have to line up hicks or staff along the border in mass. You don't have to build it on natural barriers either. All we need is to keep the current border patrol, we don't need stuff you said, because that sounds stupid.
Also works for Israel. Their wall is 700 kilometers. Ours is planned for one thousand.
>>28367
I remember this meme.
AUDIT THE FED RON PAUL 2008
>>28039
>Over 100 replies and still on the first page
I didn't think you had it in you, /news/!
>>28368
Same way we run 24hrs a day, 7 days a week, 4 weeks a month, 12 months a year, year after year? People in need of jobs will go through the training required to give it suitable physical surveillance along with motion sensors and drones.
It is not hard. After 9/11 the US should have cracked down on the border but they only feigned to do so. We may have marshalls in planes and armed staff but we never addressed the visas for foreigners which was how 9/11 happened.
Briefings tell us how much time and resources alphabet agencies have to waste because of the border. Time better spent cracking down on domestic terrorism. The syrians caught in SA clearly on their way up here w/ fake passports? Unlike obamacare this wouldn't be a wasted attempt to leave a legacy.
Bless your heart we'll pray you get some sense knocked into you by your mamma one day.
>>28306
The point of the "protest" was disruption. Rule 5 and 6.
>>28358
>Free Speech Zone
Years ago 4chan would've been against this. Before the libertarian segment of this site got drowned out by Stormfaggots.
I've been here for almost 10 years now. Holy Christ has this place changed.
>>28359
This.
He came out looking like a victim (especially after the assassination attempt), they came out looking like violent thugs that proved him right, and Cruz and Sanders came out looking like they're egging on violence.
These people just don't understand they can't beat a salesman at his game
>>28357
>doesn't know what most means
>doesn't know what generalization means
>doesn't know Trump is right
It's inhumane for you to support this kind of brain drain on their population.
What will mexico do now that we have all of their best and brightest?
How will they survive with their most successful doctors, scientists, engineers and entrepreneurs fleeing across the border?
You truly don't care about these people.
>>28377
We'll see how the voting comes out. And what the candidates say tomorrow on the morning news shows.
>>28359
uhhh no. The people that would be voting for Bernie would be more likely to vote Bernie now because they hate Trump
>>28383
Voting in what?
Clinton's going to be the democratic nominee, no doubt about that, Trump's chances just jumped to 90% after yesterday.
>>28384
bernie's been flushing his support down the toilet this past week
>whites don't know what's it like to be poor
>blaming Trump for the violence when there's video evidence of people chanting Bernie as they block ambulances
>refusing to disavow these protesters as well as the guy that charged Trump in Ohio
He's pathetically attempting to pander to the black vote, not realizing they're already firmly in Clinton's pocket
>>28386
There is no white vote. We aren't all the same.
There is no black vote. We aren't all the same.
If voters in America are 'in the pocket' of any politician and immune to reason. That politician holds slaves not the support of free citizens.
>>28390
we're not the same but we sure do vote the same way, and the majority of blacks are voting Hillary
>>28384
I'm sure the majority will. But theres a bad taste in peoples mouth. The Trump people bunkered down and the bernie folks had to have a serious convo on what some of them did. Man when the media sympathizes with Trump you know you fucked up. Anyone on the fence saw trump take the high path.
Again the voting on the 15th will let us know.
>>28401
>Anyone on the fence saw trump take the high path.
After weeks and weeks and weeks of taking the low road and openly fantasizing about committing acts of violence against protestors.
>>28402
yeah, key word here, FANTASIZING.
He came out as the victim here, and with Sanders victim blaming him
>>28391
Am I to understand you have never witnessed or partook in a disagreement within your own community however broadly or narrowly drawn that did not compel you to diverge at the polling place?
And further, that such a divergence is inconceivable in your view in every state and every vote to come until the end of time?
Looking beyond this election must be the frame in my view as the question is one of possibility and inevitability.
If it can happen possibly in the future, or certainly in the past, then it cannot be impossible now.
And if it happened in the past, then it can happen again.
In 2008 Obama garnered 295,214 votes in SC; Hillary 141,217, Edwards 93,576.
In 2016 Hillary garnered 271,367 votes in SC; Bernie 95,840.
Assuming no population growth (it was 7% per decade), and no swap to Bernie(cancels out Edwards) 20,000 fewer Obama supporters showed up at minimum or only 130,150 switched sides from him assuming no loss of confidence on the Hillary vote side.
>>28404
>yeah, key word here, FANTASIZING.
And by doing it in front of crowds eager to vote for and support Trump, it was an implicit invitation for those supporters to physically assault protestors. (They'd been doing that well before this past week, too.) Donald Trump made violence against those who disagree with him into part of his campaign, and American politics - and especially the GOP - will never recover from that.
God help us all if one of Trump's supporters actually kills a protestor. Trump would probably call it a victory for Free Speech.
>>28405
You're forgetting that Democrats are having a record low this year, and many voted for Obama because he was one of their own
>>28408
>Democrats are having a record low this year
Partially because it's the primaries, partially because of new voter ID laws being enacted that largely disenfranchise minority voters.
>>28409
>largely disenfranchise minority voters.
>brown people are too dumb to get an ID
racist
>>28402
He's got issues I support him and yet I'm not blind. But he managed to bunker down his base and get the oppositions to have some jump over.
Don't blame Trump for taking a situation staged by the opposition and walking out the bigger man.
>>28408
Record Highs are in evidence in Bernie victory states. Most independents and 3% of Republicans even jumped ship in Michigan to stop Hillary winning.
I concede the opposite is in evidence in Hillary's side of the docket. 7% of Dem voters had preferred voting Republican to stop Trump than stomach voting for Hillary.
>>28411
>brown people are too dumb to get an ID
You said it, I didn't.
>unironic bernie shills here
>>28039
He's only going to grow stronger
>>28419
The kicker is that while Hillary couldn't deal with Sanders the bernies gave Trump free amunition.
He needs a Tuesday sweep and major Bernie losses would be icing on the cake.
TOO EVERYONE HERE I DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR RACE, CREED, CODE, POLITICAL VIEWS, OR RELIGION. WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS THE SIMPLE FACT THAT YOU PEOPLE ACROSS THE U.S.A AND THE WORLD WOULD SPIT ON THE GRAVES OF OUR FORE FATHERS FIGHTING LIKE THIS AND I FIND THE HUMAN RACE TO BE A DISGRACE TO ITSELF FUCK ALL OF YOU.
>>28435
> THE HUMAN RACE TO BE A DISGRACE TO ITSELF
TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW!!!
>>28419
If I knew any Bernie shills in real life I'd be thanking them for locking up Trump's nomination the other day.
>>28457
How in the fuck do you spin Trump inciting riots at his own rallies and telling people he'd like to punch protesters in the head into "Bernie shills locked up the nomination for Trump~!!11".
>>28112
We are talking about a small minority of loud mouth, negroes and their slave owners that are barking, while regular human beings are coming out in droves to vote for Trump. If the average black person was smart, they wouldn't allow these embarrassing negroes to live.
>>28496
>We are talking about a small minority
Do you really think some kind of majority somewhere shares your racially divisive viewpoint?
>>28165
You are so blind. So you are saying that all of trumps supporters are stormfront? Lolol. What a new fag you are. Its more like 1%. BLM on the other hand is full of at least 65% violent offenders. BLM events should all be shut down.
>>28201
Talk about spin, yous is spinning out of control. BLM is no way based on peaceful teachings at all. Its a loose calabaration of angry, dumb black ignorant criminals that think they can push around liberals to g3t their way. Even the old school Black Panthers from Oakland would be dissapointed at the lack of understanding of direction and intelligence. BLM cause violence everywhere they go. They incite hatred and violent acts as part of their mantra.
>>28240
Another reason BLM should be no way near Trump events. They need to classify them in the same catagory as the KKK now...oops, they already did
>>28273
Yea, he really has enough.. go home now, new faggot
>>28497
Shared or not, this is fact. Its basically what is killing anything like BLM and the way they are percieved. Regardless, people painting Trump as a racist or a bigot, are simply a racist or a bigot themselves..
Inb4 but but but, im rubber, your glue, etc
>>28504
Taking a shit, cnn. Enjoy your cuck fail
>>28510
Wow, you really are that dumb. Sad mate.
>>28513
Oh look, the complete retard is calling me dumb.
>>28460
Are you retarded?
>BLM and Bernie thugs storm private trump rally, violating his first amendment rights, proving once and for all he was right
And there are dozens of videos of people stomping on American flags and blocking ambulances and shooting uzis while shouting out "Bernie" and "Feel the Bern", gruesome images that will get any good red-blooded republican's blood boiling.
>>28535
>And there are dozens of videos on right wing media like Breitbart linked to by drudge of people...
*ftfy
Meanwhile in the real world, there is a whole yahoo and google news feed full of hundreds of news reports stating the opposite.
>>28536
Um, no you retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyUBwhNzZIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_wNGite3c
Have you retards not learned anything?
Have these past 9 months taught you absolutely nothing?
Do you still think you can win a media war against fucking Donald Trump?
>>28537
Uh yes you complete imbicile. I can't stress enough how for every racebaiting cherrypicked example you can find, I could find 2 or 3 that say the exact opposite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be7qg1SOjZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmYWibI6fww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCctljfuPVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SuXmNS8Hso
Have you retards not learned anything?
Have these past 80 years of media control taught you absolutely nothing?
Do you think my personal opinion matters compared to that of the Big Media Titans who helped make Trump what he is now? Who do you think they are for?
>>28538
>Do you think my personal opinion matters compared to that of the Big Media Titans who helped make Trump what he is now? Who do you think they are for?
kek confirmed for being in a coma until this week.
The man's shat upon PoWs, disabled people, women, Muslims, immigrants, Chinese, called opponents pussies and said they got schlonged, got Obama and the whole Republican establishment making speeches against him, got the entire media against him, got endorsed by the fucking KKK and still danced around the issue instead of outright disavowing it days later, and he's only gone up
>increasingly nervous man
>>28540
>The man's shat upon PoWs, disabled people, women, Muslims, immigrants, Chinese, called opponents pussies and said they got schlonged, got Obama and the whole Republican establishment making speeches against him, got the entire media against him, got endorsed by the fucking KKK and still danced around the issue instead of outright disavowing it days later, and he's only gone up
You fool, guess who is laughing all the way to the bank cashing in the ratings check? Guess who every campaign on every side pays for all those ads and all that air time?
>>28541
They build them up and then they tear them down. That's what the modern multi-national media does. Trump is just now starting his tear-down phase.
>>28543
Either far too late or far too early for that my friend.
If they wanted him to be the GOP loser they'd have begun this in december.
If they want him to be the general election loser they'll start around August
>>28199
I cant say that I remember Racists shutting down Obama like that.
>>28546
I disagree, it's a perfect time and a very narrow window open to them to cause chaos at the convention. Remember, chaos = ratings. Rubio and Kasich's pact to stick to their own respective states shows how their campaigns are on board.
>>28549
Well yeah, but the protests completely blew up in their faces.
They should've stuck with the old guy punching the black guy at that rally, instead of showing people literally rioting.
Now Trump's the victim, and it will help him enormously on the 15th.
>>28039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyw9J6NuFSM
>>28551
again, too late for that.
he's got a 3rd of the votes needed, he's already won.
Either they name him the nominee, and swallow their pride, or name Rubio or Cruz, and have him go third party and completely ruin their chances of 2016
>>28553
As long as Rubio and Cruz combined continue to have more delegates than Trump then it won't be over. Reince Priebus is not a Trump fan and ultimately he decides.
If Trump protesters want to take him down the best way to do it would be to call him a Communist PC Liberal since his proposal to let people sue for "slander" could be seen as such. If you accused him of trying to give Liberals the power to sue you for not being PC and violating your 1st Amendment rights it would probably effect his supporters more than calling him out on his insults.
>>28554
You're not getting it.
The number of delegates is not equal to the number of the popular vote.
They might win the nomination but they're going to lose when Trump takes all his new won friends with him and goes 3rd party
>>28556
No it's you who doesn't get it. The popular vote hasn't ever meant shit in our electoral college system. The system of delegates in each party is set up like a mini-electoral college. There is no way Trump in a 3rd party would get more than the ~20% Perot got in '92 that gave Bill Clinton (and thus Hillary also) the presidency. I guess those who don't know history....
>>28557
But that's my point, if Trump's not the nominee there's going to be a repeat of '92 which will only benefit Hillary
>>28558
Well then on that point we can agree, /news/man. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
>>28460
There haven't been any riots, retard.
The closest you got was when "student activists" stormed the Chicago rally looking for a fight.
>>28560
http://ktla.com/2016/03/11/violence-erupts-at-donald-trump-rally-in-st-louis/#
>>28516
Says the idiotic moron that fucks his mom. ProTip, im cortect here. You are dull of ideas that dont pan out.
>>28561
A bunch of faggy Bernie protesters don't constitute as a riot.
>>28577
my sides have left orbit
https://twitter.com/trymainelee/status/708310127430860800
>These two fags trying to ruin the thread
>>28580
There are 49 people in this thread, smart guy, and the thread is mostly /pol/ bait anyway.
>>28556
Trumps not going 3rd party.
If he were to walk in with a significant lead and anyone but Cruz were to be the nominee you wouldn't be able to consolidate those groups.
The Republicans have a win-lose-lose-lose scenario. Win with Trump. Lose with Trump. Lose because you didn't go with Trump. Lose because they want to split into third party run.
>>28583
I don't think Trump will run under a 3rd party for the same reason Ron Paul never ran under one, even after he got fucked over twice at two different conventions. Even if you do everything right you're only going to get 5-20% of the vote like Perot did in '92 and '96 (granted he dropped out both times, in '92 he came back). Add to that Ralph Nader. After him and Ron Paul, both of the parties have reformed the laws at the state level to make it harder for 3rd parties to make it on the ballot at all.
>>28583
Or they could keep everyone in the race to keep Trump from winning the number of delegates he needs to win. Then, have the second and third place winners become the presidential candidate and VP running mate and claim that together they have the number of delegates needed to win. I don't know if that would work though.
The media can't win because they have to seem impartial. They can't cut his mic and say, listen, here are all of this guy's lies... because TRUMPMEDIA makes the headline "Media Anchor Cuts off Trump, Is Unfair, Asks Nasty Questions"
He has a chance of winning against Hillary because the voters will be vote for any democrat/vote for anyone but trump vs. vote for any republican/vote for anyone but Hillary. They are each totally and completely vilified on each side. Trump could beat her.
But Sanders? He would have a harder time. Not that Sanders will get the nomination.
>>28579
Do you know what a riot is
>>28583
Seeing Ted Cruz's face is like hearing your parents have sex, he's not going to consolidate anything, and he'll win even less.
>>28590
It wouldn't. At this point if Trump isn't the nominee I don't know how bad things could get.
You absolutely cannot deny the guy after what's sure to be the most emotional campaign in history, and especially given the extremely fragile nature of the Republic now.
You should fully expect outright riots being totally plausible if Trump gets a clear majority of delegates, but not the nomination. It would be complete chaos, and the country may fracture.
>>28599
>Do you know what a riot is?
Yes, this:
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/708467478222020608
Do you know what inciting a riot is? That's what Trump did.
Still don't get how this is news.
More riots in Chicago, the least surprising place for riots to take place.
>>28600
The Republican party is running desperate though. If they say that the second and third place winners have enough combined delegates to win they may claim they technically win by running together. Also, Trump has never had more than 50 percent of the vote anywhere leading some to believe that the other three are cutting in to each others votes as well as his and that if they had gone up against Trump alone they could have won. This Tuesday and the west coast votes may wind up cutting Trump down since his main appeal has been toward racists. Will have to see what happens after Tuesday. They may try to cut the race to a one on one fight with Trump. Though, again, I have know Idea what they are going to do.
>>28590
Why parrot the same thing I said back?
>>28039
>hey closed down one of the loud-mouth's big speeches.
I am 100% anti-Trump, but this worries me.
Setting aside the censorship of free speech, and make no doubt that's what this is, it worries me that Trump is able to cause such an mass of angry people to gather and I dread what will happen once he gets to the main election.
>>28628
But Trump himself has said he wants to pass a law so people can sue each other for "slander" which is also censorship. The whole Trump campaign is worrying really.
>>28629
Not people, media.
And he's 100% correct, the media has too much power in today's society, and in today's world of clickbait, they simply don't check the shit they're posting, and don't give a rat's ass about who it hurts
>>28630
I think he mention people and the media but that really does not make it much better considering Trumps personality. He would probably call legitimate criticism of his actions as "slander". The problem is that "slander" is such a broad term that it can technically be applied to anyone or anything. Also, what's to stop the law from being abuse. I don't think such a law would pass through Congress but it's a potentially slippery slope that's quite scary when you think about it.
>>28635
While yes, it could be abused to dismiss any rightful criticism, there should be severe penalties for doing this.
And the definition would be simple: any fiction or rumor that is represented as solid truth
>>28629
Are you nuts? He's having his manager get charged with assult when there is clear evidence that the reporter 1) was lying 2) has a history of hoax stories. And thats just the latest. Trying to get these people to redact statements is a money consuming process.
The media has too much power and solely because of that but because the vast majority of it is owned by 6* companies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3WQe8XkpM4
kek they dropped the ball hard with this one.
Now Trump's going to say that they're promoting attacks by giving the attacker limelight
>>28637
>>28641
The thing you need to remember is that some time the news media don't intentionally lie. In the age of 24/7 and instant news coverage what information news reporters receive can be spotty and incomplete and can lead them to jump to false conclusions. I'm not saying that news casters don't lie, I certainly believe they do, but how do you distinguish a honest mistake from an outright lie. Forcing new companies to worry about breaking the law would cause info reporting to slow down as the news media has to worry about criminal charges if they don't.
>>28649
But that is my point, they need to tone it down, double and triple check the info.
It doesn't matter if it's intentional or not if it fucks someone's life up
>>28650
And MY point is that all that double and triple checking of info is going to slow the info we receive down. Yes, the news media should be held accountable for instances where they give false info however well meaning. Perhaps I'm being paranoid but I just fear that the system well be abused since truth can be relative, and there will always be people who exploit good intentions for personal gain even to the detriment of others.
>>28611
His main appeal is NOT from racists. THAT'S JUST your lib/bait mate. Maybe 1% are of racist fractions, which is no different than what every other candidate has had in every election. Get over this racist crap and use your brain if you have one. ..its all a lib game because they are losing bad.
>>28655
>And MY point is that all that double and triple checking of info is going to slow the info we receive down
An acceptable sacrifice.
What do you prefer, fast info that could be false or a bit slower info that is nearly 100% accurate?
>>28659
Protip: It's far more than 1%. But nice damage control.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/24/its-not-just-donald-trump-half-of-republicans-shares-his-views-on-immigrants-and-refugees/
>>28664
>people not wanting illegal immigrants in their country makes them racist
wew lad
>>28665
The point of the article was that normal republicans usually only believe one the racist talking points at a time, but trump is drawing in the people who fall for all of them.
Or as they put it:
>Trump has captured the support of 51 percent of those overlapping voters, compared with 16 percent among all other Republican voters. Put another way, pro-deportation/anti-refugee voters account for almost three-quarters of Trump's support. (He's polling at 32 percent overall in the Post-ABC poll.)
>>28667
Again, thinking that we should deport people who got here illegaly and that we shouldn't accept migrants after seeing what's happening in Europe is not racist, and you thinking it is is hilarious
>>28668
You're not getting that me quoting the article means national media thinks it is, not me. You want me to go on quoting articles because there are about 40 that basically say the same thing.
>>28165
>posts facts
>calls it spin.
hahahaha
People like you are why I'm voting Trump. Not because I like him but because liberals have gone out of control.
>>28674
So you'll be rioting after they take Trump's delegates at the convention like the 1968 Democrat convention stole them for LBJ's VP, right?
Isn't the old KKK meme about "The Day of The Rope" a /pol/ fantasy? What better time?
>>28675
Well, they've requested more riot police than ever before in the history of the convention so they know that if they go that route it's going to be bloody
>>28303
We gave it a shot with liberia. It should have been compulsory and not voluntary.
I like this thread. It reminds me of an episode of Anderson Cooper 360 where he just lets the liberal and conservative campaign surrogate talking heads talk over each other for 10 solid minutes. It's like /pol/ but not /pol/, if that makes any sense.
>mfw this is an sjis board
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>>28649
>>The thing you need to remember is that some time the news media don't intentionally lie. In the age of 24/7 and instant news coverage what information news reporters receive can be spotty and incomplete and can lead them to jump to false conclusions
Then they should wait and vet their fucking info. They are to blame for jumping the gun. That is all. Honest mistakes in the workplace if you work in a factory or hosptial can lead to things like :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokaimura_nuclear_accident
>>28606
The people that organized the protests are the ones that incited it.
There was an actual terrorist there and everything.
>>28664
The Washington Post is near propaganda at this point, if not outright.
>>28714
>The people that organized the protests are the ones that incited it.
Trump incited it when he told his followers he would pay their legal bills.
>>28717
You're retarded.
>>28265
Just as retarded
>>28717
Trump incited it, when protestors got bussed in, handed signs and started being physically confrontational with Trump supporters because they didnt like their opinions? He incited it when they started storming the stage, attacking police officers, blocking traffic?
Take your fingers out of your ears and stop chanting Bernie for long enough to assess your own personal bigotry and consider new ideas.
I supported Obama, even during his run for his second term. I supported Ted Cruz until November. There comes a point where you need to swallow your pride and ask questions critical to your own personal bias.
>>28717
If I asked you to assault someone and I offered you money to do it, would it be criminal?
No, only if I paid, and Donald will not pay. Also he has lawyers and no one in North Carolina would dare file charges against him, so no.
>>28717
Lawyer here. You're wrong.
>>28669
Basically, the articles are idiotic.
>>28755
>everyone else must be retarded not me
>everyone here disagrees with you
l0l
>>28758
Protip: there are the 4 /pol/fags who agree with you and then there is everybody else. on the planet.
>>28755
>multiple posts quoted
Bait
>>28053
Apparently China's government is literally using Trump as an argument against democracy
>>28548
try again.
>>28272
lmao so Trump supporters still think they can win with their token handful of Hispanic and black supporters?
Nobody is saying he has literally zero minority support, but 95% of his supporters are white and yes, that will hurt him in the general.
>>28334
Wtf are you even talking about? This isn't about minorities not counting, this is about simple mathematics in a democracy. When the VAST majority of non-whites will not vote for Trump, then it is fair to say that "lack of minority support could prevent him from winning"
>>28506
but he really doesn't have enough. Even Romney didn't have enough, and you're a fucking joke if you think Trump will get more.
Go home now, teenage edgelord who is getting involved in politics for the first time in his entire life
>>28239
>slice of bread
>cut the crusts off
It's not that hard.
>>28376
holy shit this. stormfags are among the absolute bottom of all shitposters.
I attribute it to the contrarian nature of 4chan as a whole. The backlash against SJWs has created entire demographics of 4chan posters that are extremely right-wing, socially conservative, and Christian (lmao considering 4chan's history).
>>28499
it's probably not just 1% of Trump supporters my guy. As a Tump supporter myself I feel very uneasy when I read others' racist content online.
I would also say that 65% for BLM is a stretch at best. But I feel bad for well-intentioned BLM organizers, because it's quite clear that anything they do will be accompanied by violent, looting, opportunist fuckery. They need a new group with real leadership, because this is simply tainting the legacy of civil rights.
>>31264
BLM just needs to disappear altogether. it does nothing but rile up racial tensions and smear the reputation of black people.
this applies to pretty much all of this modern black 'activism'. they're slandering the police, hating on a man for killing an attacker in self-defense and mourning the death of violent criminals, all while rioting and looting to the point where they make some cities look like a syrian battlefield. shit like this accomplishes literally nothing, it just makes decent people dislike blacks more and more.
>>28376
It was a private event in a rented space, though. Trump could throw out anyone he wanted to for any reason.
This isn't a free speech issue.
