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http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/9/11182590/obamacare-donald-trump
Vox cites this article on The National Journal which argues the Democratic senate supermajority passing Obamacare inspired the rise of Trump.
However, more accurately, the Republican GOP's response, which was to frenzy their followers into a grassroots movement against Obamacare, could be seen as the backlash inspiring Trump followers.

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/620757?unlock=8FN44MUZAMAANTMD
>In this telling, Obamacare was hubris that led to disaster. "Obama, eager to be seen as a historically-consequential president, [wanted] to spend all of his political capital early on the Democratic dream of expanding public access to health care — political backlash be damned," Kraushaar writes. This is more interesting and thoughtful than the Franken-framing, and it speaks, I think, to something important in Trump's rise.

>That isn't to say Obamacare would ever have been a bill conservatives loved. Its basic structure is that it raises taxes on the rich and cuts benefits for the elderly in order to subsidize health insurance for the poor and the sick. But Republicans could have hated Obamacare in the way the Democrats hated the Bush tax cuts — it could've been legislation they opposed rather than legislation they feared.
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>But that wasn't the strategy. As Mitch McConnell, the leader of the Senate Republicans, told the Atlantic, "We worked very hard to keep our fingerprints off of these proposals, because we thought — correctly, I think — that the only way the American people would know that a great debate was going on was if the measures were not bipartisan. When you hang the ‘bipartisan’ tag on something, the perception is that differences have been worked out, and there’s a broad agreement that that’s the way forward."

>Republicans persuaded their base that something terrible was happening to the country and promised that if they won the 2010 election they could undo the damage Obama had done. The strategy worked. Republicans won the 2010 election, and they won it in a big way. But then they couldn't undo what Obama had done. And their base was too scared to simply accept that.

>Now elite Republicans are panicking as they watch their base turn to different and terrifying kinds of politicians in response. But even as the strategy of calculated hysteria destroys them, they can't seem to stop arguing that the Obama era — as represented, in this case, by Obamacare — has been a scary aberration in American politics.
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When are Republicucks going to realize that they are their own worst enemies? Seriously, they don't understand even their own people, let alone those who don't have bigoted tendencies or know how to use a computer.

Calling it right now. Republican party will become even more splintered over the next decade. They won't unite behind their radical evangelicals, their traditional Conservatives, nor any Reagan ideals. Trumpism will rise and this will last for a decade or two. Maybe not a Republican majority, but it now has a semi-permanent home.

(spoiler) I think Libertarianism will rise from flames as the new power in around 20 years as their voter base gets accustomed to using technology and they still want to represent small government ideals.
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>>27627
Ehh, I think it was more the ineffectiveness of those 2010 'Tea Party wave' Congressmen to do anything worthwhile except stall and obstruct whatever they could.
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>>27643
That right there, but the repubs cause this way before with how they created there base. Nixons southern strategy.

Secondly most people don't even agree with their policies, they needed there donors so when the tea party got voted in they couldn't call them out on there shit.

They created their plight its an awesome shit show.
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Thank god Trump killed this sack of shit party.
More of a mercy kill
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>>27636
>Libertarianism
The Pauls were right.
Just a bit early
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>>27707
I think that overall is correct. Nearly every ideology predicts that one day, we will approach an egalitarian society that will have minimal, if any government in place. Communism predicts this. So does libertarianism and anarchism. Liberalism attempts to achieve this through civil reform. Right leaning capitalists want to achieve this through the perfect businesses and markets.

Nearly every strife in this world is due to people being on uneven footing with each other, and we're all arguing the meaning of the word "fair".

Technology is our only chance to create a near-perfect society for the entire world to live, and we'll have a lot of hurdles with governments trying to strangle it in the meantime.
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>>27636
Democucks should kts. They want to make America more like Europe, niggers we aren't europe. We have a diverse culture, tons of different races, we're 62% white! In Europe it's more like 99% on average! We aren't Europe and we aren't meant for socialism.
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>>27636
>I think Libertarianism will rise from flames as the new power in around 20 years as their voter base gets accustomed to using technology and they still want to represent small government ideals.
I'm okay with that. Trumpism becomes a thing and we get non liberal leaders.
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>>27726
TBH, the demonization of Collective Bargaining scared the American public out of their own comfort--the informed labor class, which was middle class.
There was nobody to complain when all the jobs that were unionized were shipped overseas.
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>>27636
>Republican party will become even more splintered over the next decade.
I almost wonder if there's even going ro be a Republican party a decade from now. With as fractured as they're bound to get, I could almost see the party itself collapsing.
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Democrat socialism is a middle thing in my country.
It is just a little step on the red side of the middle overall.
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>>27757
What country would that be?
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Trump is around because massive debt, trade, and immigration has ruined the country, possibly beyond repair.
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>>27789
If you really think these are the things destroying the country, then you should stop listening to the Republican talking points and all of their doomsaying. Most of what they say are well-articulated lies along with well-manipulated facts.
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>>27789

I am more inclined to believe that it's because of Cronyism and waste. Mostly the reason we have Obamacare is because the Pharmaceutical industry and the Medical industry as a whole have been given the rights to corner and monopolize the health industry. Politicians like Billy Tauzin is one example that comes to mind how government plays favorites at the expense of of taxpayers.
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>>27769
Sweden?
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>Nazis were socialists
>being this fucking uneducated
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>>27790
Except he's right. Immigrants and the destruction of unions have given the American worker 0 value.
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>>27789
You don't understand how the national debt works do you? 80% of the national debt is domestic bonds & t-bills, owned by American citizens & corporate entities. Interest paid goes back to those who purchased those instruments.
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>>27805
>national socialists
>not socialists
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>>27790
How is it wrong then, dear anonymous.
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>>27636
>Libertarianism will rise
I can't post my face hahaha
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>>27712
Who cares if failed ideolegies predict something. I mean really take your bad ideas and keep them to yourself. Please.
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>>27797
Obama would have loved fully socialized healthcare i am sure. With all the resistance he already got to the bill, imagine if his new healthcare put all the insurance companies out of business as well. There would of been to much backlash to make it happen. But now that the shitty system is in place, he's started the path that may lead to full social healthcare 4-8-12-16 yrs down the road when people are completely pissed off with the current model.
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>>27627
I love how you act like there aren't millions of americans disappointing with obama and it's all the republicans fault. "There can't be people who actually don't like obama, it's them republicans fault".
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>>27903
>failed ideologies
>Not realizing the impact all of these have on the global geopolitical spectrum.

>>27963
Yea, there's no way that even with a Democratic majority back then, that a Single Payer system could've passed through.

>>27964
Most of those who are, are drinking from the Conservative media koolaid, and yes that accounts for millions of Americans. It's one thing to dislike his policies in a bipartisan manner, and push your own agenda ahead. But it's an entirely other thing to frenzy your voters into thinking that such a program is America's slip into Communism-Fascism-IJustHateYourPoliciesLOLxD
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>>27712
The only way to create a 'perfect society' is to get to a point where the human race is both homogeneous, sparsely populated and liberated from labor via technology.

You're never going to get anywhere the way we're going, because 'diversity' splits societies apart, and we still need what is essentially slave labor, so just hope that we push technology far enough forward before most countries start to fail and enter civil/world wars.
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>>28564
>implying countries are going to fail and haven't been more prosperous than the world has ever seen.
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>>28624
>the USSR could never fail right guys
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